Poland-Lithuania

>>1692629
it was a (prussian [teutonic] centric) history-pulse that served its ROI

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> Poland-Lithuania
> Austria-Hungary
I see a pattern here...

The governmental system was retarded and rival powers could just bribe noblemen to call the government body (Sejm) off whenever it met.

>>1692828
Basically what this guy, said nobles had too much power and king in most cases couldn't say shit.

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>>1692629
Subhuman and treacherous "neighbours" + idiotic policy ("democracy" in times of kingdoms and empires) + imbecile rulers + being cucked by Vatican, which resulted in:
- 123 years of non-existence
- 50 years of communism
- countless wars and uprisings
- total destruction and theft of Polish culture, genocides of our elites, intelligentsia etc


Poland and the PLC were great reservoirs of culture and development throughout the entire 15th and 16th centuries. It was rich and (relatively) stable, and was probably one of if not the nicest place to live during those centuries in the middle of the last millennium.

Swedeshitters ruined it though, they looted and burnt almost every palace, library, archive and gallery in the PLC, they massacred, in some places, up to 3/4 of the population, and are the reason Poland in the last few centuries has gone from France-Tier to what it is now.


Actually it was quite unique and showed that Poland was the most free country in Europe. And oh, it wasn't really szlachta that mostly fucked up the Commonwealth, they were actually the soul of the nation and cultural and knowledge propagators, but some magnate families like the Radziwiłł's.
Actually the protestants and calvinists like the Radziwiłł's wanted the Cossacks (a warrior class of refugees to the borderland (U+kraina) of mostly Ruthenian but also Polish, Lithuanian, Scottish, Dutch ethnicity as well) to rise up against the Catholic majority so the protestants from the north could overtake the country, then later the Radziwiłł's literally begged Sweden to invade and are partly responsible for causing the Deluge - all in the name of destroying Catholicism.

Yes, but they were supported by other protestants, mostly Britain through proxies like Sweden and Prussia. The protestants wanted to destroy Catholic Poland because it was the largest and most powerful country loyal to the Vatican. The Brits were the 4th partitioner of Poland through funding Prussia.

>>1693003
copypasted some replies from Poles, just to describe the situation

>inb4 butthurt prussian servants

>>1693003
No one does butthurt like Poles.

>>1693030
see
>>1693006

>>1692818
If you implying that being union of 2 coutries was what made them fall you should go to /int/, /pol/ or /trash/ with that retardation.

If you mean when exactly the possibility and the idea of a P-L state ended, then the answer is, as it often seems to be with medieval-born notions and ideas in Europe, in the 19th century, the latter part more specifically, and nationalism.

After two failed Polish rebellions, which the polonised Lithuanian nobility naturally took part in, the newly (re-)starting national awakening of Lithuanians was based on specifically on the peasants and (peasant) lithuanian culture. Deliberate effort was made to take stance against slavic culture and influences which included the Polish speaking Lithuanian (as in blood not in name only) aristocracy. And during the first years of the 20th century it was this nationalistic Lithuania which came out on top and realised the new independent Lithuanian State in its image. The Polish-Lithuanian war and the following frozen and unresolved conflict just cemented the already evolved situation and understanding.

Tl;dr IT WAS NATIONALISM

>>1693030
>dismissing a good post with 'lmoa buttpain'
i hope you're proud

>>1692629
Liberum Veto was one of the most retarded rules ever invented and allowed for foreign powers easily influencing and blocking reforms in the PLC for their own interests.

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>>1692818
>history-humanities