Visegrad - Danubian Confederation?

I wish I could see the disappointment you're feeling and put it in a bottle.

>>1691724
>meanwhile, Czech and Slovakia are pulling away from Poland and Hungary's V4 ideas about social counterrevolution and shit

>>1691724
the more fractured fragile and splintered the states are the more easily conquerable they are, snowball, momentum

>>1691724
It will disintegrate. Without the EU there is no future for the countries in Europe. Centralisation is inevitable and irreversible, another trend of our time, following globalisation. We have to be able to compete against other industries.

>>1691724
Someone is going to get heim-ins-reich'd.
Better watch out Sep.

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>>1693173
>Centralisation is inevitable and irreversible

After that logic, Indochina will be swallowed too by a blob along the smaller central asian and caucasian nations who have no future either because globalisation apparently only enables Chinalike blobs as in pic related.

I have high hopes for more loose confederations and microstates though, even if many ethnic groups and languages will not survive this century, wildcards such as new ideologically currents, weapon systems and automatisation may make autarky viable again.

Singapore as a modern citystate is ahead of its time, but is not in need of merging with indonesia.

>>1691724
Visegrad is like 2 pairs of swingers living in the same home.

There are stances which are specific for this region(refugees policy and several other issues) and Visegrad serves to pursue them more effectively. They're often doing false starts though where some memebers(usually Slovakia and Czechia or Poland and Hungary) start spewing something the other two don't agree with.

Think of it as about some popular-motivated lobbyist groups like NRA in the US but on a nation-state level. They agree on specific issue(preserving gun culture and right to bear arms in case of NRA) but everting else doesn't matter at all. The particular members/representatives may have very visible political ties but the organisation itself doesn't require those to function.

Hofer is better than any of his alternatives but he is clueless about what's the purpose of the group though. Austria is "old" UE member, was never communist and the only things they have in common with VG is that Hofer will have similar stance on migration. Other than that they will always do the exact opposite the "old four" will agree on.

>>1693173
>Centralisation is inevitable and irreversible, another trend of our time, following globalisation.
They've said the same about liberalism and it didn't work so well in the middle east.

>>1692296
Wouldn't Austria act as a balancing force between the moderates in Czechia/Slovakia and the reactionaries in Hungary/Poland?

>>1693634
No anon. It's not about this.

Visegrad is about securing the interests of the 4 member states in the UE. They don't have the power to change UE politics by themselves(like Germany or France) so they're doing it all at once.

Austria, like I've said >>1693559 is like completely different world.

Poland, the richest country of the Visegrad group has GDP per capita in range of 26k USD, Austria has it in 47k. 2nd one - Czech Republic, has it in range of 18k.

Variety of things Austrians would support in the EU - like lowering the UE budget and as such taxes would be met with open protest in the rest of those countries.

Even the refugee thing. Austrians are against it because they will cause troubles in Austria. V4 uses it as political leverage but irl. the reason why they're in the game is that they will suck out funds that would normally go for them. In fact they ARE sucking those funds as we speak.
All these 4 countries have population that largely doesn't speak english and uses extremely hard to learn languages to make up for it. Even basic "go to the shop to spend my welfare bux on something" will be a struggle for the eventual refugees and the alternative - moving to western Europe which is not only more "English-speaking" but also uses relatively simple Germanic or Romance languages is a much better idea and ultimately the EU didn't agree on forcing them to live wherever UE chooses, they can just disagree to be relocated and keep sitting on WE welfare, so they'll keep living in WE.
As such, both Austria and V4 has problem with refugees but the motive behind it is completely different and while they would easily agree on this specific case, anything further down the route would result in instant split.

>>1693934
>Poland, the richest country of the Visegrad group has GDP per capita in range of 26k USD
Nope, Poland is around 12k