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Is civilization really a good thing? I'm not asking that because I'm a nihilist in the "you can't know anything besides that your own consciousness exists" sort of way.

Rather, does it contribute to happiness? The agricultural revolution also begat institutions as slavery and most people's diet s are believed to be considerably worse than those of hunter-gatherers. People were subject to the same mind-numbing labor all year round from dawn to nightfall. Sometimes, months of labor turned out to be all for naught if the rains failed to come. That was the casd for the majority of history, and for many subjugated populations, their lot was even worsened as empires expand their reach.

It's tempting to think all of that was an investment though, and now that we finally see loss of life from warfare or natural disaster becoming more infrequent, humanity is finally going to begin reaping the rewards of civilization soon enough. But then the prospect of nuclear terrorism, global warming, and unpresedented scale of factory farming, which may yet be the singular greatest source of mass suffering of all time, comes to mind.

Will civilization ever reach aout point where we can convincingly say all the suffering was worth it, and that everything that can suffer, is better off for civilization?
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Civilization is worth it because without it or the lack of it makes us give in to the animal within us.

People used to be cannibals in societies without civilization, it was a struggle. There were bad years that could fuck your shit up as well because you'd be dependent on a lot of factors.
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>happiness
Define happiness.
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I wouldn't have porn, internet, and porn on the internet without civilization.
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It's thanks to civilization that you can ask such a question as you didn't die in childbirth or aren't out hunting and foraging.

And people still do awful things without civilization. In fact, civilization stops them from doing awful things. Even Hunter-Gatherer cultures have slaves m8
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Frankly, agricultural civilization was probably a step down for most people, but the industrial revolution boosted living standards up past the original hunter gatherer life.
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