How can people want multiculturalism but rant and rave about

>>1683338
They don't care about cultures, they just want people to stop being mean.

>tfw actually enjoy multiculturalism
>lefties and righties both want segregation

Sharing is neat, man.

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>>1683369
desu 4chan is the product of sharing between American and Japanese culture

>people want free trade
>and closed borders

>people want small government
>and strong police and military and secret police

>people want to support the troops
>until they're veterans

>people want a politician they can trust
>who always comes from the same party

>>1683383
>>1683369
I'm all for sharing and globalization if we kill all the negros and brownies before it.

>>1683388
underrated post
liberals and conservatives are totally lost these days

>>1683383
>US and nip anime """""culture"""""
Reddit is a better representation of US culture

>>1683338
Depends on what kind of multi culturalism and cultural appropriation you're talking about.
Wrong is reinterpreting the image of a middle eastern Semite into that of Zeus or Dionysus while overlaying the cultural base with your own.
Good would be adapting aspects of various cultures to your own without completely replacing their culture with yours or vice versa.

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>>1683383
Finnish is the leitkultur of 4chan

>>1683338
It could be argued that cultural appropriation is a sign of insufficient multiculturalism. It basically means borrowing aspects from other cultures in a shallow way, without paying attention to context.

>>1683369
>>1683388
These
We're in for a long drawn out crash almost world wide
I'm almost beginning to root for [spoiler]Trump[/spoiler] because he's going to cause the inevitable to happen faster, and once that happens we can reform.

>>1683626
Isn't the history of cultural exchange "cultural appropriation"? Of course you start out with the surface level stuff before sinking into the more profound or integral parts of a culture. Getting upset that a white lady wants to wear a kimono doesn't aid her in discovering Japanese literature or history or whatever else, if anything it will scare her away.

What it seems that these eternally offended people who shriek about cultural appropriation truly want is, ironically enough, segregation on racial lines. If you're white you just CAN'T wear a chinese dress or a bindi on your forehead and you never will be able to. It's oppressive somehow.

Personally I think cultural blending is cool and is historically where the most interesting stuff happened. Of course it's often messy so I also get the desire to live somewhere homogeneous.

>>1683338
No one wants multiculturalism. People are stuck in their middle class bubble and don't see the division it actually causes.

American cities are so self segragating

>>1683388
The cause of the current political climate is the probably purposeful pandering of major political parties to older generations brainwashed through t.v. since young people allegedly don't vote.
I want a repeal of corrupt trade deals and stronger immigration control without walling us in. Smaller government and less invasive policing. We wouldn't have to support veterans if we weren't constantly meddling in places that are none of our business. I promote the advancement of third parties. I voted for Bernie because he seemed like the best option out of all the candidates. I won't be voting for either because of a principal which is not about liberal policies but a refusal to vote for both sides of the same coin but I do hope Trump beats out Shillary.

>>1683647
Ironically enough, I find the people most concerned about such a silly nonissue as "cultural appropiation" are either whites or westernized asians/blacks/whatever the fuck.

>>1683746
Yeah actual Japanese people typically think it's endearing/flattering when westerners adopt their dress and indeed, if you visit Japan during some of their festivals it's expected.

Same thing with the bindi. I use these examples because they've received a lot of hysteria from the tumblr type groups despite the fact that in both cultures they're generally very accepting of outsiders finding their culture neat.

Fucking hell, a friend of mine visited New Delhi and during a festival some old lady was putting bindis on all the foreigners heads. Only spoiled Americanized Asians actually look for a problem to be had here.

>>1683647
>>1683746
This, the time SJWs freaked out about the Boston art museum letting guests try on kimonos was sheer comedy gold, the "Asian-Americans" protesting were all Americanized Chinese with typical dyed hair and such, and the kimono try-ons were literally sponsored by the Japanese embassy, who then issued a statement saying something like "We cannot understand their position". Kek, nice mental diseases America.

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>>1683782
They're desperately looking for anything parallel to pic related in any form

>>1683398
Fuck u man :(

>>1683369
Multiculturalism is only in white countries tho.

Why can't we have places dedicated to our culture like everyone else's?

>>1683813
You have no culture

>>1683813
It'll happen soon in China, they're having an aging work population crisis like the world has never seen

>>1683813
what is "white" culture?

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>>1683813
It's because all the white countries are 1st world.

No one wants to move to a 3rd world shithole.

Anyways, America is the biggest exporter of "culture."

>>1683826
Culture is related to nationality, not ethnicity.

>>1683813
>white """""culture"""""

>>1683813
There's a ton of Haitians, Colombians and Peruvians coming to Chile.

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>>1683813
>Why can't we have places dedicated to our culture like everyone else's?

Who says we don't?

>>1683824
>>1683829

Really? What sort of migrants do you think China will let in?

Regardless of where it happens, don't you think all cultures should have a homeland to celebrate accomplishments?

>Anglo culture is world culture
>German, Polish, Dutch, French, Spanish, Danish, the list goes on...

Fuck off with the bait.

>>1683848

America is the only country that matters.

>>1683847
>movies

R u srs

>>1683813
>places dedicated to our culture
What do you mean by this

>>1683856
Homelands for a people to freely express their culture.

I thought it was quite obvious.

>>1683855
Hollywood is American culture

>>1683848
>don't you think all cultures should have a homeland to celebrate accomplishments?

That's up to the people themselves. Whether or not the Brits want London to be cosmopolitan like New York or strictly English, whatever definition they're using by that, is up to them.

The Japanese by contrast, have decided they want to be homogeneous, foreign culture seeps in very strongly anyway, mostly American, and this isolationism is going to have pretty severe economic drawbacks but like I said, their call.

>>1683848
>What sort of migrants do you think China will let in?
Literally all they can get, within the next five to six years the Chinese baby boomers are retiring, and the one child policy has left them with too small a workforce to keep up both social programs and military aspirations in the Pacific. I imagine it'll be a lot of central Asians and Indians, but I predict they'll attempt to reign in skilled workers and managers from Europe and the US

>>1683859
It's vague sentiment. Do you mean there should be whites-only cities and the like? Does homeland mean the entire nation?

>>1683864
So there's nothing wrong with all Germans deciding that they no longer want Arabs settling their country?

You also have to realize that the people no longer have much say in these matters.

>>1683867
Aren't most of their automotive industry engineers and management Europeans?

>>1683874
Good question

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>>1683859
>he doesn't know Japan's relationship with Latin America

>>1683872
>So there's nothing wrong with all Germans deciding that they no longer want Arabs settling their country?
Yeah.

>>1683880
I remember hearing about Geely buying SAAB or Volvo.

>>1683871
>does homeland mean the entire nation
Ethnic Germans founded Germany, I believe Germany should be for German people.

>white-only cities
Race is historically tied with culture, Eg not many Black Russians, so I think the two would be largely synonymous if say France was to have a major reversal of cosmopolitan ideals.

>>1683872
Not only is there "nothing wrong" with it, but removing kebab is a noble cause and should be actively encouraged.

>>1683872
Yeah nothing wrong with that. Probably economically limiting themselves by not allowing immigration based on arbitrary standards but whatever.

And in a democracy, while there is some corruption, it's ultimately the fault of the elected officials you put in. In America we have the two most disliked candidates in history and its all our fault. A bunch of dumbasses didn't go out and vote and the ones that did did so for stupid reasons.

Plus if you were to take an opinion poll in Germany I doubt your proposal would gain much traction. That might change radically, Germany being Germany, but still I don't think Germans as a whole want to ban all immigration or stop partaking in foreign culture.

Rants about cultural appropriation are literally modern-day sumptuary laws.

>>1683890
>Ethnic Germans founded Germany, I believe Germany should be for German people.

The German people lost that right when they decided to gas 6 million Jews

>Race is historically tied with culture, Eg not many Black Russians, so I think the two would be largely synonymous if say France was to have a major reversal of cosmopolitan ideals.

Moron.

>>1683895
Oh I realize that this isn't a popular opinion, the mainstream is on the complete opposite side of what I'm thinking.

My position is simply; support the nuclear family, promote western values (free speech, etc.), and look after your own before others.

Sadly this is usually a controversial stance to take.

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really makes you think

>>1683906
You lose the right to self determinism because of the actions of some of your people's ancestors?

Should we all be ruled by sheep farmers from Nepal who have never done anything wrong? Absolutely stupid thinking.

>moron

Great argument, really convinced me.

>>1683918
I don't see the problem. In fact, why don't they all move to one single place?

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>>1683338
Majority of non whites could give less of a shit about white people

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The thing about multiculturalism according to the left it's that it is not actually about different cultures living together. It is a Marxist tactic to create a revolutionary class through political discourse.

In left-wing "multiculturalism" you don't have Deobandis, Sufis or Ibadis, just "Muslims", you don't have Swahilis, Igbos or Bamilekes, just "Blacks", and all these groups are taught to hate white people, to identify white people with everything bad in the world (patriarchy, capitalism, homophobia etc) in order to justify revolutionary politics.

If you want truly multicultural societies, look at traditional European empires, like Austria-Hungary and the British Raj.

>>1683920
Yes you lose the right to self determination when you wage two world wars, lose both of them, and commit the worst genocide in human history.

It brings me great joy to see the German people ended

>>1683930
K.

>>1683930
Technically, the Soviets did most of the work.

Most of these problems were caused by ethnic Germans living in Eastern Europe, and by the old Prussian culture.

The Soviets simply eliminated both of these factors.

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>>1683930

>The Holocaust was the worst genocide in history

Not even close.

>>1683939
>exterminate Jews
>doctors, scientists, lawyers, business owners, productive members of society

Literally the worse people you could pick off.

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>>1683944
All this is negated by their massive support of communism.

>>1683946
Most communists were Gentiles.

Also Jews are capitalists to the core. Most successful race

>>1683944
>gypsies, homosexuals, disabled people

By your arbitrary metric of "worst" meaning "productive members of society", your definition already fails.

>all Jews were wildly successful altruistic saints

Do I even need to say how stupid this is? Nobody in Germany was doing well prior to the Second World War, not to mention making sweeping statements like that is retarded.

Are you seriously 11?

>>1683955
>all

No one said this. You're like a nigger.

>>1683953
Jews are pro-capitalism because they believe free-market capitalism is the most effective way to destroy the cultural traditions that halt communist revolutions. Karl Marx himself said so.

http://marxists.anu.edu.au/archive/marx/works/1848/01/09ft.htm

>in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

>>1683963

MODS /pol/ IS LEAKING IN AGAIN

>>1683963
>most Jews were wildly successful altruistic saints

You're being pedantic here. It doesn't change the fact that you're metric to measure this is stupid.

>>1683968
>praising Jews
>/pol/

>>1683966
Jews are not a monolith. Pro capitalist Jews are opposed to communism

>>1683973
I never said most either.

>>1683974
Jews are opposed to communism when communist countries get rid of Jews. They criticize the Eastern Bloc after Stalinism, for example (exactly the point when it got better). They also criticize the Great Purge in the Soviet Union, which killed many Jews who perpetrated the Holodomor, but they never criticize the Red Terror of the early 20s, or dekulakization in the early 30s.

The point being, as long as communist regimes are slaughtering Christians and other goyim, Jews are fine with it. Only when communists turn against the Jews they begin to "oppose" it.

>>1683977
Youre still being pedantic.

But since you seem to be exceptionally slow, how about you tell me what percentage of Jews you meant?

>>1683982
Percentage of what? You are the ones putting words in my mouth. Get lost.

>>1683981
Yes. Why is this a problem? People look after their own. Jews cannot do the same?

>>1683981
>as long as communist regimes are slaughtering Christians and other goyim, Jews are fine with it.

This sounds vaguely familiar.

So what you're saying is Jews have been as tribal as any other group of people on the planet. What a surprise.

>>1683991
>reading comprehension

Jesus why do you even come on here.

>Jews cannot look after their own?

You literally advocated taking away the self determination of Germans. You are autistic.

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>>1683991

>Imply that all Jews are highly valuable intellectuals
>Get called on it.
>Say you didn't mean "all"
>Get asked for a percentage
>Get butt-hurt

>>1683991
Actually, Jews are allowed to look after their own just fine, it's white people who aren't. For example, you consider Germany getting rid of potential communists during a time when they were fighting a war against international communism to be a reason for them losing their right to self-determination.

>>1684000
>Jews are allowed to look after their own just fine, it's white people who aren't.

Yeah, because people just love Israel don't they?

>implying

>>1683996
Because they tried to exterminate Jews.

>>1683997
Never have I said all. You said that. When I say black people talk like retards or Muslims commit terrorism I don't mean all. Most people understand what I mean. You Autist

>>1684000
Who's fault is that? They were not fighting communism but Jews

>>1683813
immigration is only to white countries
ftfy
And if your looking for the reason why it's probably because of capitalism or commercialism making their countries shit and ours great and it isn't like you can build a huge zap wall to keep intruders out despite what is commonly believed atm.
It's not like every other country on the planet is a monolithic cultural entity.

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>>1683823
>>1683826
>>1683832

>people legitimately believe this

>>1684006
>ignoring every single other point made against you and focusing on stupid, silly, irrelevant shit.

You really aren't an example of this Jewish superhuman you seem to be preaching.

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>>1684008

>Never have I said all.

So then give us a percentage.

>>1684008
The fact that you fail to see the irony in your logic is actually worrying.

>of course Jews have the right to self-determination
>filthy Germans don't obviously, a few of them hurt Jews!

Does this make it any clearer to you? There really is no arguing with stupidity.

>>1684008

>They were not fighting communists but Jews

You'll find there is a significant overlap between those two groups. They aren't mutually exclusive by any stretch of the imagination.

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>>1684022
Germans HAD a right to self determination. They lost that right when they fucked with some of the best humanity has to offer. As far as I'm concerned I could give less of a shit about them. In fact, I derive joy from seeing their demographic destruction

>>1684008
Fighting Jews and fighting communism are one and the same.

>>1684011
Yeah but only in white countries do you get shit like Merkel's open door refugee (migrant) policy.

Only in white countries do you hear "diversity is a strength".

>capitalism made us great and them weak

You should check out a movie called "Emoire of Dust". It explores modern Congo through a Chinese construction company, and shows what exactly the Africans did with the infrastructure left to them.

>>1684015
It's only stupid, silly and irrelevant because it goes against your line of argument.

>>1684029
It could be argued that Jews and genociding Palestinian Arabs in the modern day, does that take away their right to self-determination?

Define "best and brightest". Because making sweeping statements like that is, again, like I've told you, stupid.

>>1683848
>Fuck off with the bait.
>denying the world you live in
Must feel pretty terrible knowing you can't accept a standard fact. I just made five figures naming babies in China. FUCKIN' CHINA.

>>1684037
You've given me one subjective point to argue against, whereas you had about 8 to work with.

You should really take a rhetoric course or something. People could care less about Israel in the modern day. Only hippies and hardcore Zionists still care.

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>>1684031
>>1684027
>Israel
>right wing nationalist haven in the sand nigger shithole that is the Middle East
>communism

According to your logic, Israel should be communist central

>>1684041
Might is right faggot.

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest iq. They make up 2% of the US population yet make up 48% of billionaires, dominate politics, entertainment and media. Shit tons of Nobel prizes to Jews. Best doctors and cool people.

>>1684051
NatSocs, Leftists and Jihadis alike literally cannot talk about anything other than how Israel is an evil terrorist state.

All of you have Jew-hatred in common.

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>>1684058

Maybe Israel should stop being an evil terrorist state then?????

>>1684056
Okay "might is right" then. Why couldn't they stop Germans from killing them? Seriously, stupid thinking.

You're also failing to address the actual point of this argument, which was Jews in Germany, not Jews in America.

>>1684058
Again, focusing on this stupid point. It's easy to play the victim card, hard to actually argue, right?

>>1684071
>hard to actually argue, right?

Argue about what? You've literally said nothing worth arguing. You're just been whining that it's somehow politically or socially acceptable to be a literal Nazi as long as you're Jewish, which is absolute horseshit.

>>1684056
Communism is meant to slaughter and enslave the goyim, of course they wont apply it in their own homeland.

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>>1684071
That's right might is right. Look at the Germans now. A dying people. German males age 20-35 are said to be a minority in 2020. Say hello to Germanistan

Now look at the Jews. On top of the fucking world.

>>1683826
What is 95% of art History

Multiculturalism is a transitional period that can't last forever. Eventually one culture or a blend of both becomes dominant and the other ones die out.

If two cultures blend together they both stop existing as seperate cultures.

The only way cultures can coexist is seperately.

>>1684073
Oh my god do you have Alzehiemers?

You said previously that the Holocaust was the worst genocide in history, I asked you to explain, you said that Germans killed doctors, businessemen, etc, I told you that not every Jew killed was wildly successful, then asked you to tell me what percentage of Jews killed fell into the category YOU DEFINED, and then you had an autistic fit of rage.

The fact that I'm repeating our conversation to you makes me feel like I'm actually talking to a retard. Jewish master race, for sure.

>>1684077
You are willfully ignoring my point, yet again. We were talking about German Jews, not American Jews. Could you elaborate on that?


Seriously, for people who claim to be the master race you guys are fucking autistic.

>>1684088
>The fact that I'm repeating our conversation to you makes me feel like I'm actually talking to a retard

Yeah, because you are talking to a different person. This is my first post in this thread.>>1684006

>>1684088
RETARD ALERT

You're not replying to the same person faggot.

You were the one that said all. Not me.

>>1684099
Well damn you're even worse at debating than him. Literally just played the victim card the whole time.

>>1684104
Nice samefag, samefag.

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>>1683823
>>1683826

Your entire life is dominated by white culture. White culture is so universal that you faggots take it for granted.
That you could unironically post this in a white language on a white website on a machine invented by whites using energy harnessed by whites speaks volumes of your lack of self-awareness.

>>1684198
>white
Define white.

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>>1683813

Whats wrong? dont you love "sharing" cultures with other people?

>>1683938
>old Prussian culture.

Shit dude, those old prussians are barbaric as fuck, we should call a crusade on them or something.

>>1684198
>anglos
>white

>>1684251
>implying the war with islam is even a "cultural war" sparked by "cultural differences"
Fuck off

>>1683921
Send 'em back.

>>1683923
>that pic
What do you know, people think they have it harder than people that don't look like them.

>>1683921
Sorta defeats the point of living in a pluralist society don't it?
New tribalism will be the death of the west. It is doomed to fail and fall into awful human rights violations. The populist "left' and alt-right are shallow nationalist authoritarians.

>>1684198
Daily reminder that a not-significant portion of the media you consume, now and in the past, has been made by Jews, Italians, and other "subraces" most people hardly consider to be technically white. Same thing for most of the scientific advancements that permit you to exist as you do.

& Humanities was a mistake.

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>>1683813
>Why can't we have places dedicated to our culture like everyone else's?
Practically every urban centre in the world is dedicated to western culture. Our culture is probably the only one in the world that is not under threat except maybe the far east.

>>1683398
Edgy

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