What if Simon Bolivar had suceeded in unifying South America?

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>>1660140
We wouldn't be having petty squabbles and football rivalry to this date.

>>1660140
It would have Balkanized just like the gran Columbia did.

>>1660176
/thread

Most Latin American countries can barely even self govern, let alone be part of a unified empire.

>>1660176
This. They weren't developed enough to work together on an even footing. Also Huehuhueland.

>>1660140
This part of the world would be as shitty as Haiti or Dominican Republic

>>1660140
You would have one huge shitty country rather than many shirt countries

>>1660140
imminent war with Mexico for being pro USA

>>1660263
>for being pro USA
come on, Mexico has been mostly anti-USA. That Zimmermann telegraph affair is more than enough to prove it.

>>1660140
He said it perfectly: I have been plowing the sea. Meaning that it was an impossible cause. As for the future, who kows,

>>1660140
Football would be boring Sudamericawinslol event

>>1660274
They are very pro-US. Their government essentially does the bidding of the US gov.

>>1660334
Football in a United States of South America would resemble NFL.

With riots.

>>1660176
this.

Fucking this.

The geographic barriers and the sheer size of the continent would also render governing such a state back then impossible. It wouldn't be a state, more like a confederacy or even an empire.

>>1660140
Bolivar wanted to unify hispanic america, Brazil for example had nothing to do with it. Please check a few sources on the issues before posting anything.
>>1660176
Not necessarily, Brazil didn't balkanize. If South America was unified under an Empire I can see it succeeding in remaining a single political entity despite the clear logistical problems.

>>1660536
>Brazil didn't balkanize.
hard to do when you only control the coastline. They didn't have massive mountain ranges, thick jungle and arid deserts to travel through. And not to mention the added size to sail from say Bogota to Santiago.

Maybe as an empire it could have survived, but who would have the largest amount of power? Plus it would have split off eventually. Hell, why despite being so close to Argentina and Brazil are Paraguay and Uruguay separate countries?

Answering that should explain why a unified South America would have been impossible. And this is coming from a Chilean (not that it matters anyways)

>>1660536
>Brazil didn't balkanize
Also more than half the "nation" was unexplored until modern days with as of yet uncontacted tribes still thought to exist.

So yeah, it didn't balkanize, but it also was effectively much smaller than it is now.

>>1660140
with/under what?
force?
telecomms?
chains?
roads?
ideology?
religion?

fuck off

>>1660213
It is

>>1660140
The criollos would just have balkanized it in their interminable struggle for power

Jungles and impassable mountains.