/his/ memes

>>1654787
nothing is funnier than when people seriously call it "Constantinople" 500 hilarious years of saltiness.

>>1654787
To be fair, Constantinople actually wasn't fairly taken away. (((Somebody))) left a kerkaporta open for the Turks to just walk right in.

So this MS-Paint comic is rather in poor taste as it doesn't consider what would've happened if the Turks were sealed off everywhere.

>>1654810

>getting salty over a meme

Wouldn't expect anything more from a /pol/fag.

>>1654781
Explain meme

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>>1654821
>implying I go to /pol/

Suck a dick, faggot.

>>1654810
seek help man

>>1654810
>So this MS-Paint comic is rather in poor taste as it doesn't consider what would've happened if the Turks were sealed off everywhere.

Is this really a "they cheated it doesn't count" accusation? Are you suggesting that European conquests were always taken fair and square and that there wasn't any sort of underhandedness?

Also
>as it doesn't consider what would've happened if the Turks were sealed off everywhere.

What? This is basically saying "Your image about muslim conquest is in poor taste because it doesn't take into account a hypothetical scenario where there wasn't a Muslim conquest."

It doesn't consider what would've happened if the Europeans were sealed off everywhere either.

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>>1654827

So (((((())))))) was nothing then?

>>1654808

86 hilarious years, actually.

You do realize it wasn't formally renamed under the Ottomans, but the republic of Turkey in 1930?

>>1654832
Fuck off cunt

>>1654840
>are you suggesting that european conquests were always taken fair and square and there wasn't any sort of underhandness?

No, I'm saying it wasn't a fair siege, if it was, the inhabitants of Constantinople at the time would've won.

>other greentext bullshit

Yeah I don't rly care for your other critical remarks.

>>1654861
I did not know that

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>>1654858
I don't know what you're talking about. Proof?

>>1654874

>heh I don't rly care

Get the fuck off /his/, you moronic teenager

>>1654874
>not a fair siege
Kek this guy

>>1654874

>No, I'm saying it wasn't a fair siege

What the fuck is a fair siege? Sieges were regularly resolved by standing outside until the inhabitants surrendered or died of starvation and disease. The word literally stems from a Latin root word "to sit". As far as """""fair sieges""""" go "someone opened the door and then we assaulted the city" is actually pretty good.

>Yeah I don't rly care for your other critical remarks.

You misspelled "I'm retarded and I can't think of a response, mostly because my argument was really stupid."

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>>1654885
>moronic teenager
>doesn't get my age right

I'm 20, lad, and as an adult I will not be pushed around. Take your comments back and shove them up your already hemorrhoided anus.

>>1654874
this is a 18+ site kiddo

>>1654898
You're a funny guy.

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>>1654882

Posting superior version.

>>1654898

>I'm 20, lad,

That's embarrassing, I'm sorry about your learning disability anonymous.

>>1654898

>heh, I'm an adult

You type like a fucking 12 year old pseudo intellectual

>>1654890
>kek this guy
I'm just saying, if no espionage was involved and it was just a regular siege then it probably would've turned out differently.

That's all I'm saying.

Not getting salty over Constantinople or anything.

>>1654896
8========D~~~~

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>>1654874
>not a fair siege

Name a "fair" siege. Name just ONE. If you're besieging a city, you aren't playing fair.

>>1654882
>>1654905
Explain this goose meme.

>>1654910
>no espionage
>giant ass canon destroys walls
>Turks starve the city out
>same result, just taking longer
>being this butthurt

>>1654826
kek this post is way too long:

Henry George was an economist from the late 1800s. When he was alive, he was regarded the third most famous American after Mark Twain and Thomas Edison.

Many famous men such as Leo Tolstoy, FDR, Churchill, Teddy Roosevelt, Sun Yat-Sen, and Albert Einstein lauded George as brilliant. His only critic was Karl Marx.

The introduction of the Secret Ballet and the game of Monopoly were both inspired by Henry George's writings and when he died well over 100,000 people came to mourn.

Yet, now he's forgotten and his most important policy proposal (The Land Value Tax) is ignored despite most prominent economists such as Milton Friedman acknowledging as the most efficient tax.

TL;DR
He's a brilliant economist who's policy proposals are not implemented despite being widely acknowledged as good

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>>1654902
>>1654908
>>1654909
I love this 3v1, really makes me seem superior when it takes 3 people to try and counter my arguments. Cry some more kiddoes.

>>1654915
Canada is actually populated by geese wearing human costumes, and use a complex system of quacks to communicate

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>>1654911
The Battle of Vitkov Hill.

>>1654915
Geese are cunts

>>1654910

>I'm just saying, if no espionage was involved and it was just a regular siege then it probably would've turned out differently.

The siege, maybe. The city wasn't keeping the Ottomans out of anywhere but its own walls by 1453 anyway.

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>>1654919

>>1654919
dumb frogposter

>>1654910
even if it was you said "b-but da joos opened the gate" it wouldnt turn any other way. the blachernae walls were already breached and the turkish fleet have bypassed the golden horn chain.


hell even if the turks somehow decided to withdraw constantinople would have fallen anyway at a later time. by the time 1453 the byzantine was dying

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>>1654919

>counter my arguments

>kiddos

I believe you dropped this.

>>1654919

What argument? You invented a hypothetical scenario without evidence and people called you an idiot.

>>1654916
Not really, if that actually happened the Westerners would've prevailed since Mehmed sent all of his troops to attack the walls and was left with only 12,000 janissaries after every attack was repulsed.

This was the final wave of Turks, after the Westerners had cut everyone down.

By this time, a kerkaporta had opened up, these 12,000 came in quite easily in full force and swamped the defenders.

So yes, it would've been quite a different scenario if it had gone the non-espionage way, my "unbiased" friend.

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>>1654938
>>1654951
>>1654955
>>1654962
>>1654968
Mmmm Turkophile tears

>>1654991
>posting a literal ifunny meme frog image
We're hitting levels of newfag that shouldn't even be possible

>>1654927

>Hussite relief troops surprise attacked the Knights through the vineyards on the southern side of the hill on which the battle was fought. The violent attack forced the crusaders down the steep northern cliff. Panic spread among the crusaders, which made them rout the field.

>Surprise attacks
>fair

War isn't fair, the entire idea of it is using violence to get your way unilaterally. A "fair" war is one not fought at all, but if we were going to say a battle had to be waged, the only "fair" result would be if both sides were equal in numbers, equipment, etc on flat terrain.

>>1654794
I love that show.

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>>1654810
>(((Somebody)))

>>1654998
>we're hitting levels of newfag that shouldn't even be possible
Actually there's one thing you haven't considered: my hard drive on my old computer got fried and I had to supplement myself with new memes on this computer.

I'm still an oldfag, just have replaced memes.

Also
>uses the term 'newfag' to deflect the topic we wuz chatting about

I see weakness in your ability to argue, adversary.

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>>1654991
kek
tbqh I wish Constantinople didn't fall, but you're really bad at banter, so bad that I have the urge to mock you even though I agree with you.

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>>1655002
I was only trolling you with that battle, wagon forts aren't really besieged castles.

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>>1655021
Good, mock me then, I could give a shit. This is all fun to me anyhow.

>>1654910
>implying the Byzantines didn't also utilize espionage
>implying thousands of turks did not labor and die just to simply breach the walls

Do you know anything about warfare?

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>>1655018
>I see weakness in your ability to argue, adversary.

>>1655037
Yes.

>>1655018
Just read this thread and god I hate you.

Gfdj#"7^v3552"/*64$

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>>1655042

>>1655065
?

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>>1655058

>>1655004
What show?

>>1655164
Was Rome an antiquated version of America?

>>1655167
History doesnt repeat itself, but it does rhyme

>>1655177
What's the most poetry thing in history?

>>1654951
Dumb "dumb frogposter" poster.

>>1655028
>I was only pretending to be retarded

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>>1655233
How did you know I was only pretending to be retarded?!

>>1654917
Cool, I'd heard of George and knew the Monopoly connection but assumed he was a Distributionist or proto-Keynesian. Didn't realize he was American.

>>1654874
>fair siege

Nigger what?

>>1655245
this meme existed on /pol/ years before /his/ was created

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>>1655459
ur mom

>>1654973
>happened the Westerners would've prevailed

>calling the Byzantines westerners.

>>1654810
>white christians can actually never fail I promise the crusader stares and constantinople and the german empire and the twin towers were all brought down by jews

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>>1655491
>implying it was just Byzantines defending it

Read a fucking book.

>>1655250
Damn this is a good one

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>>1654748

>>1655503
>implying I said anything like that

>>1655511

How much you want to bet it was the Venetians who left the door open?

>>1654917
rec me some Henry George books pham

>>1655195
People will usually say Hitler forcing the French to capitulate in an autistic recreation of the train car in which Versailles was signed, but that's so forced that it shouldn't count.

Pure pottery is Lenin liberating Russia only for Stalin to create a state even more repressive and expansionist than the Tsarist Empire, or Hungary being on the wrong side of history in every war imaginable and always getting fucked in peace deals.

>>1655518
Requesting one of these with Lenin and the workers' Soviets

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>>1655529

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>>1655575

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>>1655529
It could've been anyone, but I'm going to say, it was the Jews.

Because that is the best scapegoat I can use for this situation.

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I'll dump what I have

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>>1655637

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>>1655638

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>>1655646

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>>1655650

>>1655646
You got 2 World Wars mixed up senpai

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>>1655575

>>1655656
Nah senpai, the whole point was Nazis blamed Jewish betrayal for the loss in WW1 and the instability and depression that followed

>>1655671
>not "for Jews"

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>>1655655

>>1655655
FUCK I laughed to this shit

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>>1655655
Continuing dump

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>>1655771

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>>1655780

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>>1655787

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>>1654748
>>1654775
What happens if you push the red button?

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>>1654810
>actually believing the greek propaganda
that is why greeks lost nearly all wars against turks; someone left the door open

most of these are still unfunny, you have autism famm

>>1655952
Is there a British version of this?

>>1655250
Greatest memer of Civil war. Makhno is a close second
80 years of communism and countless deaths were worth it.

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>>1655971
There's a version for pretty much every nation and state

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>>1655971

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>>1656005
probably just as many versions of these

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>>1656018

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>>1656018

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>>1656035

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>>1654810
>fairly

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>>1656042

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>>1656049

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>>1656049
digging the late empire twist

>>1655245
>>>/leftypol/ and stay there

>>1656225

Not an argument

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>>1656005

>>1655958
Good meme

>>1655245
this is just as dishonest as crusadeboos are

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>>1654781
My fuckin nigga

stealing for this "Good Georgist Memes" page, if you don't mind
I'll credit you as some anon on /his/
I would post a link but it wont let me, so here's some OC

>>1655550
progress and poverty lad
although in the beging it's a bit confusing becuase he's debunking economics that people used at the time that nobody uses anymore.

>>1656296
BS Econ here

What does George boil down to? I want some major points before I jump in

(not that I won't just do it anyway)

>>1656049

>shillicho

My sides have been pillaged

>>1656320
>of the fundamental means of production, land, labour, and capital, labour and capital are produced and land is not produced
>land, unlike labour and capital, does not tend towards a market price equal to the cost of production, becuase there is no cost of production
>where a good's price does not equal the cost of production (including opprutunity cost) there is exessive profits to the seller of the good and a deadweight loss to society as a whole,as demonstrated in the graphs pictured
>this cost to non, owners of land and deadweight loss is the root cuase of increasing poverty among areas experiencing economic growth. land value increases, rent climbs, rich get richer, poor get poorer
>the solution, becuase land is a natrual monopoly, is to have all land be formally owner by the public (typically, though not nessesarly through the state)
>private use of land would require renting it from the public, and the funds would be distrubuted among each individual equally, a representation of equal right to unproduced goods
>this does not violate free market principals becuase in them, the right to property is an extension of self ownership. you put a piece of your time and effort into something, and decide what to do with it. but this cannot apply to unproduced goods.
>in fact one should look at the ownership of any land as an externality, since it reduces the opportunities of a person, thus not internalizing this externality makes the market LESS free, not more
>imagine if all unproduced goods were priavately owned. it started with land, and increasingly, we have people trying to monopolize and sell clean water
>the logical conclusion is private ownership of air. why should a person be any more entitled to land or water than air when they made neither?

>>1656320
>>1656350
tl;dr

you didn't make land/natural reasources. lets be complete communists for them and complete capitialists for everything else

>>1654832

He's not wrong, someone did unlock a gate in the Jewish quarter. It very well may have been a Turk since some had gotten inside the city at that stage, but we will never truly know.

>>1654916

The cannon took so long to fire that the defenders could repair the walls in the meantime.

>>1655511
Why would anyone defect to the Bizzies by that point?

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>>1655011

>>1656431
>why would anyone defect to the Bizzies at that point?

It was an Ottoman claimant and his forces, I think he thought that he could get back at the Ottoman Empire so he fought with Constantine against it.

>>1656440
Trying too hard

>>1656448

The Ottoman chief minister was also very sympathetic to the Byzantines. He tried to convince the sultan to retreat and withdraw to Anatolia.

>>1654919
You are a baby, get off here and stop making a tit of yourself.

Posting a smug reaction image doesn't make you cool you know

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>>1656481
Lol

u mad?

>>1656490

This is getting pathetic, you're making a fool of yourself.

On another note, are there any good bbooks on late Roman/late Byzantine history or the siege of Constantinople.

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>>1656507
>This is getting pathetic, you're making a fool of yourself.
>getting this mad

Actually quite the contrary, my good ol' chap. I'm rather enjoying the schadenfreude of it all, with flustered cuckbois such as yourself whining about how I'm "making a fool out of myself". It really does embolden me to irritate you some more!

It's funny, actually, what I find even more fascinating is your response. Like you actually cared about what I was saying.

It's almost as if.. You crave discourse like a girl craves offspring and sex in her mid 20s...

Coincidence? I think not.

You love whoring yourself to dominant alpha men like me that you WANT me to talk down to you.

You're such a dirty whore poster, ugh, you're stiffening me up.

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>>1655245
why did you cut out the best part pig dog?

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>>1655655
quite clever really

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>>1655971
kinda

>>1656440
I kek'd

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>>1656495

>>1657035
>>>/reddit/

>>1656378
>unlocked gate in the jewish quarter?? Has no one considered bribery?

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>>1656437

>>1655958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_JVaMuZZBQ

>>1657443
never gets old

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>>1654929

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>>1654827
Worst PM

>>1654874
>fair siege
This is real life, not a fucking video game, you don't get to scream "WAAAAAHHHH NO FAIR" when it isn't no items, fox only, final destination.

>>1655073
b a c k
t
o r e d d i t

>>1657745
Stop trying to be cool, canada!

>>1654787
>>1654808
GIVE BACK MY BYNANTIUM!

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>>1657961
Mmmm stay mad, child.

>>1657972
No u.

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(((OC)))