Is Catholicism a continuation of the Roman Empire? Instead of

>>1647272
Any legitimate claim to the title of Rome the Catholic church could have was relinquished with the Great Schism, with the Orthodox Patriarch remaining loyal to to the Caesars while the Pope began to exercise greater power through the Papal States and the HRE.

The original agreement between the Church and Rome was known as caesaropapism, Caesar Over Pope. In which the Emperor held more authority in church matters other than pope. The Pope Vigilius agreed to this in 538, reuniting the Roman Empire and the Catholic Church 60 years after the fall of Rome.

The Great Schism of 1054 was a complete break of this agreement between the Pope and Rome, and rhetoric began to escalate that the Empire in Constantinople was no longer Rome at all, but rather Rome would be the HRE, the state and military that the Pope indirectly controlled, rather than Constantinople indirectly controlling the Pope.

In the end, the Catholic Church severed ties with the Roman Empire in a power play to take control of land for themselves, rather than being controlled by the Empire as was always practiced during the days of the Western Roman Empire and the Byzantine Papacy.

>>1647272

RCC is one of institution of the Late Empire that didn't crease to exist. In some way yes, it's a continuation of the Empire.

>>1647272
>The Pope is Roman Emperor
>The Vatican is Rome

Nope nope nope

>>1647543
>In the end, the Catholic Church severed ties with the Roman Empire in a power play to take control of land for themselves, rather than being controlled by the Empire as was always practiced during the days of the Western Roman Empire and the Byzantine Papacy.

This isn't true. The church in the West was always more independent than the one on the East. Ambrose could stand up to emperor Theodosius and get away with it, while Eastern patriarchs who tried similar thing ended up locked in monasteries.

After Longobardic invasion, Rome was practically beyond Empire's reach and was basically independent. It was Rome that led the opposition against Iconoclasm.

>>1647272
crete/minoan
greece/mycenae
italy/roman
france/frank
germany/hre
england/imperial federation

this is SPQR the rest is nigger we're still in 6th epoc of western civilisation

the fuck religion has to do with it

>>1647574
The RCC started existing as an organization in 1054
But it's beliefs as we know it appeared at the mid 16th century Council of Trent

>>1647272
>a continuation of the Roman Empire?
No. It's dead mang. Even the stretch-arguments for its survival are gone. Stop trying to find it under every sofa.

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No.

It was the Eastern Roman Empire that was the continuation of the Roman Empire, and it ceased to exist in 1453. The Catholic Church is in no way 'Roman', save for its location in the city of Rome, and as any historian can tell you, that alone is not enough to classify it as being "Imperial Roman".

>>1647272
Yes,the christians built their temple at the Vatican which belonged to Mithra until 376 A.D., when a city prefect suppressed the cult of the rival Savior and seized the shrine in the name of Christ, on the very birthday of that pagan god, December 25.

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