If Mao was so bad.

>>1632481
Niggas stopped dying from all the wars and famine.

anyone have a rebuttal?

>>1632481
Everyone that was liable to die early was removed from existance.

>>1632500
Mao never killed anybody

>>1632481

Because the KMT (and earlier, the various warlords) were even worse. That doesn't make Mao good, just less shit than the last guy.

>>1632481
Because the people before him were worse, duh.

what was the life expectancy during the famine

>>1632515
the GREAT LEAP FOWARD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FAMINE...I REPEAT THE POLICIES OF THE GLF HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FAMINE

>>1632481
Stability=no major wars for people to die in
Also, major WORLDWIDE advances in medicine and agriculture. Tbh, the only countries in which people don't live to be 65 are total shitholes like the DRC or Sudan

>>1632504
Well not directly, but his government and policies killed millions. He may have actually killed some directly in the civil war though.

infant mortality going down

>>1632481
China never had one good leader. Sad too the people are nice and the philosophers and scientists were good.

>>1632533

> Order peasants to kill all the sparrows
> Locusts eat all the grain because no more sparrows

>>1632481
Accidental eugenics, all the weak died

>>1632515
This guy gets it. Mao was a success in that he was slightly less retarded than his predecessor.

>>1632481
Mao was a net benefit to China, though not to the degree of Stalin.

While he certainly improved the lives of the peasantry in ways most Westerners can't even comprehend, the amount of people killed due to mob violence during the Great Leap Forward or even directly executed is just unacceptable.

>>1632481
Proof this statement other than from state propaganda?

>>1632500
Also this.

>>1632481
How much is the life expectancy inside chinese elevators?

I mean, the obvious answer is that during the famine, those who couldn't work due to old age or infirmity were more likely to die because of how local party cadres divvied out food supplies. Plus post famine there were less mouths to feed and more resources per person that could be put towards their health care.

>>1634892
Depends on if it crashes with you or you just get trapped to starve to death.

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>>1634827
>Collectivize agriculture
>Politicize things like expected grain tallies
>Subject people to struggle session for saying evil capitalist things like "that field won't produce that much grain"
>Subject people to struggle session for saying evil capitalist things like "that field didn't produce that much grain"
>Subject people to struggle session for saying evil capitalist things like "the peasants are starving"
>Millions starve
>Declare scapegoat communist party cadres are secret landlords
>Declare the problem was actually capitalism

China was beginning to recover from the fucking awful war it had been endlessly fighting against the Japanese, and also against itself, these changes would have happened if Mao was leader or not


Now a great Chinese leader was Xiaoping, reminder, he did nothing wrong

>>1632481
because socialism does improves public health, in fact is priority number 1 to give free healthcare, new hospitals and to form massive armies of doctors. They have to offer the masses something.

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>>1635345
*forgot to add chart

>>1635345
>he did nothing wrong

Hmm. He did a lot of good, and some bad. That's overall great in China's history.

>going from a world war + famine to using other countries medical research
Moa ze obama was the best leader ever op.

By the way, they would order tens of thousands of workers to be executed just ti hide military bases, so the meme that random execution was common isnt a meme.

>>1632515
>just less shit than the last guy.
then how come Taiwan became a borderline first world country by the eighties under Chiang Kai-shek and his son, while most of China is still a shit hole today?

>>1632481
he did only two good things:
1. unite China (with the exception of Taiwan, but Mao himself said in 1936 that Taiwan should be independent)
2. provide a measure of stability for the first 10 years or so of the PRC.

Everything he did after that was disaster. He was also syphilitic paedophile

>>1632481
1975 was AFTER the famine you retard. Also, of course your life expectancy will go up when a brutal civil war ends, doesn't mean you're a good ruler.