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Was this really meme armor?

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Lorica Segmentata is like the katana of armor.

Its popular. You got some people saying it was awesome. You got some people saying it was absolute shit. And you people with all sorts of opinions in-between.
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Metatron has some vids on it check them out.
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Something I want to know is how much would Lorica Segmentata weigh when compared to other armor designs of the era. It looks lighter then plate armor but heavier then chainmail while still offering good protection.
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>>1619081
it was lighter than mail
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Lorica Segmentata is the iconic Roman Armor.

Lorica Hamata looks like any other ring mail shirt from the late classical to medieval era.

Hamata took longer to make but required less skill. Some slaves in an assembly line could do it.

Protection wise it is a wash. bands protect better from some things than ring mail, but ring mail protects better than bands on something.
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>>1619100
Mostly because mail usually covered more.
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>>1619044

It was great. It gave excellent torso protection while leaving your arms free.
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>Mail has many advantages over segmented plate:
>It is more flexible and more comfortable than segmentata
>It provides better coverage—segmentata cannot protect the armpits, stomach, groin or thighs the way mail can
>Mail is easier to store, transport, and clean
It is easier to tailor to individuals—an arsenal would only need to stock a few standard sizes to fit the vast majority of legionaries
>Mail is quicker and easier to don
>Mail is less susceptible to damage—the fittings on extant segmentata are very fragile, to the point that reconstructions do not attempt to replicate them
>Mail has a longer lifespan—there are many extant examples of mail that have been repaired multiple times with patches of different types of mail from different time periods
>In the field, all that is required to repair mail is a piece of wire—there are extant examples in which a piece of wire has been wrapped around the damaged section several times to hold it together. Even in the workshop, all that is required to make most repairs is some replacement links and rivets and a peening tool

>Given mail's ease of repair and its long life span, it is reasonable to conclude that the reserves of Roman mail continued to grow during the period of the Roman Republic and later the Empire, and that more and more of it was available for troops to wear.
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>>1620451
>Segmentata does have advantages though:

>It is less expensive and faster to produce than mail, which is probably why the armour was developed in the first place
>Segmentata is lighter than mail—but it also provides less coverage. If mail was reduced so that it only covered the same areas as a segmentata, the weight difference would not be so great
>Segmentata offers better protection against blunt trauma than mail. Many assume that it also provides better protection against other attacks, but it will be shown that this may not have been the case
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Isn't mail a lot harder to make then merely strapping some sheet metal together?
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>>1620460
Pretty much. Segmentata was like the Roman equivalent of munitions plate.
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>>1619044
For it's time it was among the most protective armor that a soldier could march into battle wearing.

The problems with lorica segmentata were not strategic but logistic. Roman metallurgical techniques were far more crude and primitive than ours and the only places that could produce replacement parts were manufacturing centers of Italy, and shipping these replacement parts halfway across Europe would have been a nightmare. Even at its peak Lorica Segmentata would have only been used by shock troops or elites, for everyone else a mail shirt was the norm.

>>1620460
Not necessarily. Only a handful of places in ancient Rome had the wherewithal to produce segmented plate armor, but any two bit blacksmith could rivet together a bunch of iron rings and patch your mail shirt.
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>>1619044
It was the Pentagon armchair project of its day where senators thought to save a lot of time in equipping an army by having local armorers hammer out as many strips as they could as fast as they could rather than wait weeks or months on chainmail.
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