Spanish Civil war

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Yes.

t. José Antonio Primo de Rivera y Sáenz de Heredia, 1st Duke of Primo de Rivera, 3rd Marquis of Estella

>>1615822

>Did the bad guys win?

The bad guys almost always win.

>>1615829
Usurpador.

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Why did Franco bring the moors?

I heard they raped a lot

the good guys became the bad guys then lost

¡No pasaran!

>>1615862
This. Fucking stalin ruining everything.

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>>1615858
Because Franco was a reactionary cunt that didn't care about the well being of the Nation.

And also
>Franco
>fascist

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The CNT-FAI had some pretty gud songs 10/10
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Odrfx7WmNWQ

>>1615858
The colonial troops were those most loyal to him I believe.

>>1615858
I'm not even sure what the fuck is that poster trying to convey. Is the arab guy supposed to be the invader being taken down or sacrificing himself to protect the women?

>>1615822
you are asking this seriously?

http://www.filmaffinity.com/es/film931156.html

I´ll leave you here an amazing docummental in case you genuinely care about this

>>1615862
nope.
Franco is friend of Hitler. Spanish republicans fight against fascism. USA, URSS and UK are waifus to us. Then we beat Hitler. Franco is suddenly friend of USA because both hate Stalin.
Republican Spanish are betrayed by both USA and France. We lost the war.
Good job, world.

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>>1615916

>>1616030
see >>1615883

>>1615948
Franco used moors against republican spanish. The poster reads: join in the catalonian militia of madrid to defend civilization against the fascism.
And the image shows two militiamen defending the women

>>1615829
That's a big knife

>>1615862

Actually, the good guys became the bad guys then won.

I honestly have a hard time deciding who the good guys were.

Were they the radical leftists who went around burning down buildings, executing prisoners, and shooting nuns before becoming puppets of Soviet Russia?

Or the reactionaries that rebelled against a democratically elected government, ruthlessly suppressed local cultures and identity, blatantly ignored human rights and filled countless mass graves?

The whole war depresses me.

>>1615822
>this thread again and again
NO
The real spaniards won the war, the others were frenchified hipsters tied to a russian leash

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>>1616322
War is hell man.

>>1616407
I love how some traditional anarchists are acting like Republican Spain wasn't a tumblr tier hipster containment zone pretty much like the modern SJW groups. Orwell in his "Homage to Catalonia" literally has a passage about how recruits started arguing with a drill instructor about whether your military superior should be called an officer or a comrade, instead of actually training.

>>1616413
>controlling language is silly
Why are liberals so fucking delusional?

>>1615822
no

the reds were bastards who murdered nuns

>>1616431
And the nationalists had teenage girls raped by Regulares and then laughed about it.

What's your point?

>>1616423
Who are you calling liberal here?

>>1616438
>teenage girls

You mean combatants like in OP's pic. No regrets.

>>1616456
>it was ok because they were enemy fighters!

>>1616457
That's exactly what I said, yes.

>>1616456
And the Catholic Church strongly supported the nationalists.

So I say shooting Nuns was okay.

>>1616457
that's right, Jordi Perroflauta

>>1616475
>anarchist teenagers = combatants
>nuns = non-combatants

The distinction is pretty clear if you're not autistic.

>>1616487
Do you think all of the women raped by Nationalist moors were fighters?

A lot of them just had Republican sympathies or were married to republicans.

>>1615837
>abortion is forbidden therefore it didn't happen
Spanish gynaecologists must have been gigantic Franco supporters, just think about all that black market "premium" prices

>>1616500
How come leftards understand how market works only when a right winger bans it? See also: war on drugs.

>>1616507
I'm no leftard tho. I'm alt-left.

>>1615822
She a cute.

>>1616527
She's ugly as fuck.

>>1616531
This

Both sides were objectively shit.

>>1616527
She's ugly and if she was born today she'd be the ugly pink haired feminist accusing people of fart rape

>>1616507
>abortions are left
kys, my man

>>1615858
>that poster
why are non anglo nations so shit at propaganda

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>>1615916

>>1615916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fko5fYIBJFU

>>1615837
>Illegal immigration: inexistent
Topkek. I wonder why people didn't want to secretly migrate to a totalitarian police state

>>1616431
>muh poor, innocent priests and nuns

The church openly supported the fascists, they deserved getting shot and thrown into mass graves. That's war, son.

And the fascists killed plenty of priests as well, as well as way more people in general, but rightists always leave that detail out.

>>1617628

Today, a country like that would be flooded by /his/torians!

>>1616507
>le only right wingers understand economics

Most stale (and factually inaccurate) meme ever

>>1617636

Regarding the callous attitude of the Vatican, Manuel Montero, lecturer of the University of the Basque Country commented on 6 May 2007:[139]

>The Church, which upheld the idea of a 'National Crusade' in order to legitimize the military rebellion, was a belligerent part during the Civil War, even at the cost of alienating part of its members. It continues in a belligerent role in its unusual answer to the Historical Memory Law by recurring to the beatification of 498 “martyrs” of the Civil War. The priests executed by Franco's Army are not counted among them. It continues to be a Church that is incapable of transcending its one-sided behaviour of 70 years ago and amenable to the fact that this past should always haunt us. In this political use of granting religious recognition one can perceive its indignation regarding the compensations to the victims of Francoism. Its selective criteria regarding the religious persons that were part of its ranks are difficult to fathom. The priests who were victims of the republicans are “martyrs who died forgiving”, but those priests who were executed by the Francoists are forgotten.

>>1616322
that´s the thing of wars.
But you can sum up thing pretty well, at the end of the day one group was fighting for the progress and the other was trying to mantein the privileges of the dominant class.
Also, not all the beligerants of the Republican army were leftist people. people went from communists, anarchists, socialists, to center-right, monarchist and non-falangist right.

>>1616487
wow men. Is amazing watching people. support violations because teh rulz of war.
at least the nun-killer anon seems adult enought to know the act of killing itself were shit

>>1616531
>>1616531
Gay

>>1617318
Virgin

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>>1615831
Primo de rivera would have hated what franco did, he sold it's country to the US and failed to improve it's economy

.>>1615872
>Fucking stalin ruining everything

Explain.

>>1615822
yes

but they wouldn't have done it without the valuable help of the "communist" party. Stalin had to prove he wanted no trouble.

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This type of thread again?

>>1616511
>>1617521
>>1617645
>being so triggered you don't get the point

>all these people ITT calling Franco a fascist
the Left, everyone

>>1619128
Sorry you thought your dumb comment was clever

>>1616527
>She

>>1615833
Are you talking about US?

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>>1615822
>tfw no Anarcho-syndicalist gf

>>1615837
This

No. I'll admit despite the anarchists had some righteous causes among them, despite their atrocities, but if Franco lost, Stalin would have ended up controlling Spain.

>>1616438
Does this ever not happen?

>>1619744
>all these sluts were raped and killed by Moors
>70years later the same type of women are being raped and killed by Moors
God I love history

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>Another major target of the Terror were women, with the overall goal of keeping them in their traditional place in Spanish society. To this end the Nationalist army promoted a campaign of targeted rape. General Gonzalo Quiepo de Llano spoke multiple times over the radio warning that "immodest" women with Republican sympathies would be raped by his Moorish troops. Near Seville, Nationalist soldiers raped a truckload of female prisoners, threw their bodies down a well, and paraded around town with their rifles draped with their victim's underwear. These rapes were not the result of soldiers disobeying orders, but official Nationalist policies, with officers specifically choosing Moors to be the primary perpetrators. Advancing nationalist troops scrawled "Your children will give birth to fascists" on the walls of captured buildings, and many women taken prisoner were force fed castor oil, then paraded in public naked, while the powerful laxative did its' work.

>nationalists
>specifically choose moors to rape Spanish women

I've always been curious. What if the Republic been more centrist/Right wing?
Lets say the leftists calmed down and centered a bit more. Let's say Stalin never had any influence. Lets say the Anarchists/Socialists never got as influential.

Could a center right Secular Spanish republic have survived?

>>1621570
When it comes to liberals(as in classical liberals, not American liberals) - they kinda did what Socialist-Revolutionaries did during Russian Civil War - they split-up between both sides of the conflict. Other rightwingers were mostly Franco's supporters with very few exceptions.

With liberals the problem lied that at one side - they've realised that Franco will kill Spanish democracy while Republican side won't really let them do their free market stuff.

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>>1621570
Who would republicans get support from then, because without help of Soviets republicans would fall even faster. Republicans were from day one fighting a losing fight.

Also as Orwell will tell you in his homage to Catalonia he wished he fought for the Anarchists. The best thing to happen in that civil war was the anarchists, they dared to defy everyone at the time and they lost yet for a short time they managed to exists by themselves and see how romanticised it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td6lN_U7Ecs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGbGVvMEapY

>>1621547
I'm sure those poor moors were exclusively acting on whiteys behalf

>>1621997
They wouldn't be there if not for the nationalists.

>>1615822
If you mean the Faggot anarchist communist who killed and burnt religious figures and killed innocent land owners then no

>>1615862

Allies were good guys

The axis were bad

>>1616423

Any far left/ far right winger is.

They aren't """liberals"""

>>1616507

>right wing has no flaws

Fuck off cunt

>>1619128

What point?

That you're a faggot?

>>1618582
Republic was entirely reliant on Stalin and the USSR because France and Britain were pussy shits, then Stalin started killing off every single moderate, independent militia that wasn't sucking his dick at a time when the new army was still in training. Brilliant strategies from all parties involved

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>mfw some plucky tomboy photographer triggers alt-rightards this much