Who was the best Apostle?

Luke. He was a jedi

paul desu

John, according to Saint Jerome. That's why he was called "the Beloved Disciple". He was very spiritually advanced according to Jerome too, which is why he could witness the Revelations. Also according to Jerome, Christ would have made him leader, except the others would feel insulted due to John's age (he was a teenager).

>>1612408
I prefer Peter. I like how he didn't give up & continued on even after his 3 denials. Folks today need balls like him.

>>1612408
The count

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>>1612408

James the Elder

>>1612464
>posting idolatry

>>1612478
>art is idolatry

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>>1612458
>Folks today need stones like him.

FTFY

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>>1612421
John may have been quicker reaching the tomb but Peter was the first to enter.

>>1612421
John of Revelation is different than John the Apostle

>>1612787
why do people not realise this

>>1612787
Not in Catholicism, Orthodoxy or any mainstream Protestant sects.

>>1612796
>dogmatically following doctrine instead of using your head

Nowhere in the Revelation does John state that he is the Apostle, nor anything but a humble man sent on exile.

People only began associating him with the Apostle in the 2nd century

>>1612800
John, in tradition, was sent in exile. Also the only Apostle who wasn't martyred, but died of old age. Also by far the youngest, with exile coming in old age.

Using your head, it makes sense he wrote Revelations, not just some dude named John, but the John who was spiritually renowned and wrote the Gospel of John which is a lot more mystical than any of the others. The most likely explanation is it's the same John; saying they are different Johns is not using your head, especially since John is Greek form of a Jewish name, and by that time most Christians were probably Greek, not Jewish.

>>1612814
>one of the original apostles
>romans would just send him into exile
>when he lived during the period of notorious christian hater Nero
hmmm

>>1612820
He lived then, but not in Rome, which means dealing with him would probably be a concern for the local governor, not the Emperor.

>>1612828
So Nero wouldn't send orders down to the local governor to be specifically on the look out for Jesus' last living apostle?

>>1612796
Eh, Eusebius's History leaves it an open question and says it's possible it was another John, given the differenes in writing style.

>>1612837
I seriously doubt it. Nero hated Christianity as a movement, but he never created any hitlist.

>>1612839
Doesn't actually affect my statement. A lot of debate was going on in the early Church as to whether Revelations should be canon, and the question mostly hinged on authorship.

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>>1612408
Christ's decisions made it obvious that Peter was the best apostle.

John and James were close second.

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>>1612413
>paul desu
The Usurper
That's funny

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Judas

>>1614412
The Gospel of Judas is by far the best

>>1612796
I know at least Catholicism and most Protestants distinguish them, I've never once heard anyone say that those Johns are the same.

>>1612814
Most Christians spoke Greek but that doesn't mean they were Greek, that was one of the common languages of the Empire.

>>1616925
No they don't.
http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=3579

>>1616928
Most Christians were converted Greeks after the Destruction of the Temple. Greeks were already making up a huge percent of converts in Paul's time even.