Studied / Expected / Got

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>>1605684

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>>1605688

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>>1605684
>expected
You expected to sit on a fucking rock all day and earn enough money doing so to feed and clothe yourself?

Seems accurate for the kind of shit that goes through the heads of liberal arts fags.

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>>1605967

They picked the wrong major for that

>>1606003
>"pure" mathematics
>not picking specialised fields
Good job you learned how to do complex math and now have no fucking idea how to apply it to anything useful. You're a glorified numbers philosophist.

>>1606012
which is literally the exact thing the image they posted said.

>>1606003
Expecting to be here in a couple years, did applied maths last year but switched to pure over the summer

>>1606012

haha /b/ro i saw the pic too

>>1606069
What? Mind not speaking like a retard?

>>1606069
/b/ro? More like /p(ol)/ro

>its another "If you don't major in STEM you'll work at mcdonalds forever XD" thread

>What I studied
STEM
>What I expected
A good job and a lot of money and a beautiful wife.
>What I got
A boring and valueless lifetime career that'll probably be replaced with a machine by the end of the decade. Also depression and a broken faculty of reason that answers every worthwhile question with "it's just chemicals in your brain" or something similar.

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>>1605684
To be fair: Archaeology in the Philippines requires you to be familiar with diving skills since *archipelago* and you get to spend summer learning how to dive.

But most of the time, its about staring at rocks and wondering if prehistoric people used them.

>>1606003
300k starting, I guess

>>1606373
paleontology > archeology desu senpaitouch'

>>1605717
>what I expected
glad I didn't choose to be a lawyer like my younger self wanted, glad I'm slaving away in IT

>>1606400
I almost do paleontology given that the entire focus of Philippine Archaeology is on our Pre-Colonial (ergo: Pre-Written History) past.

Colonial Period archaeology almost requires zero work, and is usually a matter of calling experts in Madrid.

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>>1605684

>>1606441
Surrounded by cute girls?

>>1607673
Plus you can jerk off in public and pretend you were making some profound statement about the human condition or some shit.

>>1607764
cheer up emo kid

What does someone who studies women's studies or any of that shit expect? Seriously?

Also do one with cinema, journalism...

>>1605717
Seriously if you study Political Science because you want to get into poltics, you're wasting your time.
You're better off studying International relations, law, or history.
Those three have a higher success rate at getting into politics.

>>1605684
to be honest it was the contrary for me

>>1609418
whoa

#blastfromthepast

>>1605684
>>1605690
>>1605700
Who let the STEMautist in?

>>1609752
Make sure you don't burn those patties

>>1606334
>Also depression and a broken faculty of reason that answers every worthwhile question with "it's just chemicals in your brain" or something similar.
That or you'll become a hardcore religious fundamentalist

>>1609747
#fuckoffbacktofacebook

>>1609755
Enjoy your engineering job while you still have it cuz they're probably going to replace you with a Chink or a pooloo in a couples of years.

>>1606334
>A boring and valueless lifetime career that'll probably be replaced with a machine by the end of the decade
Unlike you of course, who'll move back in with his parents and tolerate their passive aggressive sighs every dinner

>>1609765
Enjoy your jo- oh wait

>>1609786
Why do STEMfags always assume there is only one path to follow with non-STEM choices of study?

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>>1609906
They need to justify their superiority complex somehow

>>1609906
Because for STEM there's literally only one path for them.

>>1609927
This

STEM is massively into specialization.

>>1609906
Think about it- middle class parents expect you to go to uni and get a white collar job. You are 17, listless, you apply for civil & structural because you are doing well enough in maths and physics. If it were English and you were more charismatic the choice would have been law. School is all you've known, but you like the uni life though the content doesn't interest you. You are here now and better finish, plus that starting salary isn't so bad. And that's how you justify your passionless choice to yourself, by always parroting "muh starting salary" to others at every opportunity. Plus undergrads really aren't adults yet and the pissing contests they get into are a hangover from high school.

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>>1609752
>reality is autistic

>>1610259
see >>1609906

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>>1609433

s-should i transfer into IT?

>>1610314
You need a degree to learn how to use interfaces?

>>1607764
damn

>>1605967
Even though I work as an engineer in photonics that's pretty much my life, except I sit on a chair listening alternatively to classical and to moonman.

>>1605688
You expected to learn how to use telekynesis with birds?

>>1610556
A very good example of a smartass answer that an employer won't appreciate.

Should i go to History Uni?

>>1610949
which university?

do you like history?

>>1607692
Are you allowed to masturbate in a cemetery? If you are caught you can say that you are doing some kind of research.

>>1607764
>he fell for the "self" meme

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That's life

>>1611015
Pretty sure that will get you arrested at least in the US

>>1611024

Fuck computer science students at university. The most immature and obnoxious motherfuckers I've ever experienced in college. I know you were making an asian joke, but that image just immediately reminded me of the giggling memelords straight out of high school that sat in the back of the classroom making a nuisance of themselves while the professor was talking.

STEMposters are an easy rattle to me as an incoming freshman to uni (took a work year).

How accurate are the memes? I want to teach history (preferably above high school level), I wouldn't mind moving out to teach some random school in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, but I don't know how grim the job market will be.

>>1611090
This.

I study CS and by god those people...

>>1606334

>Also depression and a broken faculty of reason that answers every worthwhile question with "it's just chemicals in your brain" or something similar.

>implying it isn't

I wonder if people who believe in souls have ever contemplated how your consciousness tends to degrade with head injuries or any of the well documented lobotimies of the early 20th century.

Do they think it's a spirit getting knocked around in there? We can physically remove parts of the human brain and alter consciousness by manipulating heaps of flesh.

Not to mention hallucinogenics, which alter consciousness in very well understood chemical processes.

I understand wanting to feel like a special snowflake, and there are still things about the brain and the nature of life itself that we don't know, but you have to admit that there is really strong evidence that consciousness is tied directly to the physical makeup of your brain. Altering the physical makeup of your brain will definitely alter your consciousness.

>>1611169
i would imagine it's more the fear of what death might be like if there is no such thing as an afterlife that motivates people rather than a desire to feel special.

i would also think that these people would not appreciate being talked down to over a subject which is potentially very personal to them

u faget

>>1605967
>way too literal

>>1611169
>or maybe anon means that he isn't getting worthwhile help for the real world circumstances facilitating an imbalance of chemicals in his brain

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>You will never get to excavate Sumerian cities with your waifu

Just fucking kill me already

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>>1611062

This is all too true of animation/art majors.

>>1611095
Make no mistake, even public teaching jobs are cutthroat. The pay isn't very good and unless you're patient and love kids it's unrewarding work. Some people love it, but I consider those people almost insane in their devotion.

One common piece of advice is to go into academia instead but that's also brutal. University positions come with more prestige, freedom, and pay but oh my god for something like History? The competition is intense, everyone wants a professorship and EVERYONE wants tenure. It's a steep mountain. History has to be your life passion.

There's more than teaching though. I know some history grads get work as an archivist with state governments or working at museums. You can also be creative and try something weird like independent writing or something. Kate Beaton uses her history degree for comic material of all things, there's options. They just might not be in your face obvious.

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>>1606334
>a good job
so it bores you, that doesn't make it a bad job
>a lot of money
well? are you getting a lot of money?
>a beautiful wife
knowing things and having certain jobs isn't even guaranteed to get you laid, let alone get you a wife

>>1609976
I really hope that's a rare occurrence. I don't want to study and work with a bunch of people who are much less passionate about my field of study than I am.

>>1611169
A soul is all your consciousness combined. The waking world is just one

>>1612133
Floss your teeth, disgusting bogan.

>>1611169
Couldn't you say the same thing about someone being born blind or deaf? Their subjective experience of the world will be entirely different from the average person, just like someone who has had an altered/damaged brain.

>>1612071
damn, story?

>>1612071
What is it about anthropology that you don't like?

>>1609471
How does history get you into politics?

Agree with the other 2 though, and I'll add economics (particularly because it's great for getting into law school, but can also be used in political/government fields if you don't get into a decent law school).

>>1612133
Real talk, how is it though?

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>>1605684
Neuroscience here. I got mild PTSD and suicidal tendencies from having to decapitate rats. I should stuck with the functional neuroimaging lab. I don't know what made me decide to work in a lab handling rats.

>>1612339
Normally I'd rib you but I could actually see how that would get to a person after a while.

>>1612346
>Normally I'd rib you
Sick and tired of being ribbed all my life. Rats treat each other better than humans do. No joke. Voles make better mothers normally, even.

>>1612339
>I got mild PTSD and suicidal tendencies from having to decapitate rats.

Is it still happening?

What about it bothered you so much?

>>1612339
Why would they do decapitation instead of a little gas powered mousewitz?

>>1612361
>Is it still happening?
Nah, the way my mind works is the distress washes away after some time.

>What about it bothered you so much?
You have to do it yourself. Study their neurobiology, behavior, and eventually you form attachment to them. You see they are smarter and more self-aware than you originally thought.

>Why would they do decapitation instead of a little gas powered mousewitz?
We had to collect their brains immediately to homogenize it.

Also, I'm not against animal research. It's just not for everyone -- some things in life.

>>1612395
>homogenize it.
homogenize a particular region*

>>1612339
I feel you, bud.

Studied neuroscience in a program two summers ago. Had the opportunity to complete survivable surgeries on rats, install metal plates in their heads, and then dissect their brains after euthanization.

Promptly noped out of it the second they began to show videos. It's not for everyone.

someone do one for a history major

[spoiler]i'm a physics major atm but thinking of switching[/spoiler]

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>>1611024

>>1612536
this is exactly how i feel too.

>>1612211
There's no great story. There was just an extreme left-wing bias and too much unchallenged Marxism.
I got an HD (high distinction) in one course that I trolled in, and a pass in one that I was sincere in. If you spouted the right Marxist rhetoric, you would win. I learned some things that I value, but I had to go out on my own in search of spirituality, history (not narrowly restricted to economics) and biology as causes for how people are the way they are.
There was also a persistent turning away from the 'dark' side of people (except colonists), in favour of a patronising history where the natives were presented as naive, good children who was robbed by the evil whitey crack crack with no context, an insipid assumption that anything ecstatic for men (like war, or viewing the world as something to make) is bad, and no serious questioning of how Western, globalist civilisation functions.

I did learn things from the Marxists though (peripheral to the Marxism - details about the Cold War and how post-revolutionary China worked) and one was reasonably 'red-pilled' and actually said things like 'Race obviously exists' and that we don't talk about it because anthropology has been traumatised by its involvement in colonialism.

>>1612253
I generally liked it, but it excluded biology and history completely.
It was impossible for me to grow in though, so I jumped ship to independent investigation and learning Mandarin. I've learned more about humanity from person experience, languages, geopolitics and investigating the origins of spirituality than anthropology. It's a pathetic discipline. It's greatest lure was being paid to have strange new experiences, but I can do that by myself. Now training to join the military.

>>1612654
*personal

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>>1612654
>I've learned more about humanity from person experience, languages, geopolitics and investigating the origins of spirituality

Please tell me more anon.

>>1612254
For instance in Australia more senators or members of the house of representatives have history degrees than political science degrees.

History is valued more because it gives the ability to analyse critically as well as "see the bigger picture".

>>1612719
I'm still learning, but those are the most valuable areas I've found. Language helps you enter the history and feeling of peoples, and to understand exactly what they mean, not what they get translated as meaning (etymology is great for this). Geopolitics explains most of why things happen. Personal experience makes the book-knowledge you read legible (for example, how are you supposed to know how a soldier felt until you fight a war? How are you supposed to know what kind of culture a landscape produces until you've lived in it?). Spirituality governs peoples' outlooks on a deep level, and if you can discover where that comes from in terms of their biology, experience, and survival needs, you understand why they prioritise the things they do, why they tolerate or don't tolerate things, and what they focus on. I make no claim to have reached an endpoint. This has just been the most helpful.

>>1612758
>Personal experience makes the book-knowledge you read legible

Do you have any helpful life tips for a shut-in like me?

>>1612654
>Now training to join the military.
Why do you go from one extreme to another?

>>1612758
>Spirituality governs peoples' outlooks on a deep level, and if you can discover where that comes from in terms of their biology, experience, and survival needs, you understand why they prioritise the things they do, why they tolerate or don't tolerate things, and what they focus on.
Human behavioral ecology and realistic group conflict theory make more sense than traditionalist mentality. They have more explanatory power.

>>1611015
> it's just a social experiment bro

>>1612780
Learn new thing, who I am and view of world changes, change course, learn new thing. Extremes provide the best sources of newness. Good for creativity. Good for filling in gaps in knowledge.

>>1612776
If you want it, you'll do it. If you want it, but something in your head is holding you back, find psychology and spirituality that clicks with you and work yourself out.

>>1612824
>Extremes provide the best sources of newness.
Sounds like you're trying to make /pol/ into some kind of mystical avenue for self-realization.

>>1612536
>>1612570

Fuck you two and all like you; excessive focus on mathematics is killing CS.

>>1612746
> it gives the ability to analyse critically
Get fucked, that is the biggest fucking lie history majors were told.

>>1605967
Tfw really enjoy philosophy but know it'll never get me a job so going for psychology instead since there is some overlap and there're some jobs in that

>>1611169
While it is correct, it doesn't actually get you anywhere.
> Why am I so miserable?
> Chemicals.

That's not going to help you fix your shit.

>>1611095
> preferably above high school level

this is basically the guideline to how to be a happy teacher. Once you're above high school level all your students will be people who are genuinely interested in the subject, or at the very least recognize they need it for their future career plans. 95% of your high school class won't give a shit and will distract most of the 5% that do.

>>1613122
pretty envious of this

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>>1612846
>"There's too much math"
>"They made me do a proof by induction"

brainlets like you are killing CS

>>1613122
Att lära sig översätta svenska är ju sjukt onödigt när vi alla kan engelska

>>1606441
>it's wet in my jar
>i haven't changed the straw in weeks
>my feet hurt
>i wish i was masturbating right now

>>1613147

Inte påminna mig det. :^(

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>>1612133
Just wrong. I smell an undergrad.

So which contrarian heterodox school are you? Austrian, Post-Autism, Marxian? There are problems with mainstream Economics atm, it is not a pseudo-science though, kek.

>>1611987
Your waifu is Celes?

Are you gay?

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>>1613122
This is a bit misleading desu. There is nothing impressive about being able to speak Swedish, Norwegian and Danish since the languages are so similar. Learn one and you'll learn the others in a week.

Also I didn't know that photoshop doesn't allow pictures of money to be edited. had to finish this one with paint

>>1613409
You expected euros and got dollars?

>>1613122
Wat
I did the same, expected monies, and got unemployment instead.

>>1606012
Hot memes

Holy shit this whole thread

At least I'm pure math, which is patrician AND employable

>>1613617
>pure math
>employable
not unless you have a shitload of secondary skills m8

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>>1605691
Study nothing, get what you expect

>>1613523
Yes.

>>1613122
who would possibly need to translate anything from scandinavian languages back and forth? I'm guessing most your work comes from translating portugese and spanish to english? (din jävla hanrej)

>>1613122

Wait, you did a translation course and learned all those fucking languages? I'm studying Translation/Spanish and I only speak Spanish, English and Portuguese (Plus learning Italian rn). How did you learn so much shit all at once?

Do you study the history/culture/literature of the countries, or any linguistics? At my university we have to learn about the art and culture and well as the language itself and I had to do a linguistic empirical research project last year (I did it on memes and got an A)

>>1613793
Not because... I think he works as a translator for the EU...

>>1613808
Written Norwegian (bokmål) and Danish are very, very similar. With almost identical grammar and vocabulary to Swedish (different phonetics, spelling system and slightly different vocabulary or different usage of them). You could say the same thing about Spanish/Portuguese/Italian. All of these languages have very simple grammar systems, especially if that were all you were studying it should not at all be hard to learn them all

Studied: Nothing
Expected: Nothing
Got: Paid by a couple of Albanians for wrestling junkies infront of 7Eleven at 5:30 in the morning

>>1613858

You'd be surprised. Although similar, learning a series of different languages is no walk in the park. There is still going to be a lot of nuance in regards to idiomatic expressions and idiosyncracies, accents, cultural items, etc, plus learning a lot of similar languages makes it more difficult to easily distinguish between them all and to avoid mixing them together.

Saying that, my mother moved to Italy and learned pretty fluent Italian after living there for a year.

>>1613858
Danish, norwegian and swedish look very similar on the written word, but if you're swedish and trying to understand what someone is saying when they're talking danish it's really hard.

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>>1607764
woah bro

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>>1612536
>copying and pasting from stackoverflow
That one hits close to home.

a

>>1613080
Well good job you went for the degree that makes less money and is vastly overinflated.

>>1613816
I know people who work as translators for the EU and they made mega-bucks. Retired at 60 years of age with $12K per month pensions

>>1614158

You need to speak English plus another 4 languages to work as a EU translator IIRC though, plus you need a degree in languages and/or translation and preferably a masters in translation.

>>1612254
With international relations you actually do a bunch of economics.

>>1606334
>tfw all degrees will be useless and you'll be unemployed no matter what in like 20 years because of robos

>Studied
History

>Expected
Learning how the world works

>Got
Learned how the world works and why the future is communism

>>1614163
This

The EU doesn't take practical plebs, only the academic ubermensch need apply.

>>1614224

Yep, you need a proper academic background, you can't just waltz in and claim you speak 500 languages. Although, obviously, you can't be expected to have a degree in every language, so iirc as long as you have that first degree, you simply have to perform a series of tests to proper your proficiency in other languages.

>Tfw speak Portuguese, Spanish and English and trying to learn Italian, but what I'd really like to learn is Arabic, but it's quite hard.

At least i'm left handed

>>1605690
Depends on the art. Paintings can go for a ton of money even if you aren't a famous person.

>>1612339
Can you change specialization?

>>1614211
Go into solar, that shits growing super fast.

>>1612860
Does that represent the torture of finding an architectural job?

>>1614398
No it represents the tortuous process of studying architecture. It's not that hard to find a job in general. In other jobs everything relies on your degree/uni and your grades and if you fucked up you fucked up. In architecture, portfolios rule supreme (although obviously having a degree from a good uni to back it up helps) and you can work on your portfolio until it's perfect whilst doing another job.

So yeah the degree is hell. The job is a lot of fun but I'm not mad about the idea of sitting behind a desk for the next 50 years, I think I'll try and see if I can be in roles that involve being on-site more.

studying aerospace engineering

there is literally no space on my schedule for electives
but i love also being able to get the non-engineering perspectives on things
what do

>>1606334
Yr not a stem major at all are you

>>1612654
How do you feel abt Marvin Harris?

>>1614606
>Yr

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>>1611169

>>1611145
nice

>>1614626
From the Wikipedia article, he seems like a reasonably intelligent guy.

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>>1605684

>>1605717
>>1605700
>>1605690
>>1605684
And STEMfaggots wonder why no one likes them

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>>1610656
>listening alternatively to classical and to moonman.
My nigga

>>1609786
>>1609906
>STEMfags don't realize that Robots can do math but not philosophy
LOL, literally digging their own graves, the more advanced they make our society the more likely they'll be replaced, at least philosophy has a recurring job market as teachers of philosophy.

>>1605684
>>1605688
>>1605690
The concept of a good major only exists for people who are too stupid to market themselves effectively.

>>1616543
>oh brah, I don't know where I would be without a philosophy undergrad to tell me what to do- no one ever

And you're assuming there won't be a technophobic backlash to these robots. Add this to the fact that there's still going to be someone that needs to update and program these robots, and you get a classic humanities loser who doesn't know shit yet pretends to be smart- a synecdoche, I would say

>>1605967
>You expected to sit on a fucking rock all day and earn enough money doing so to feed and clothe yourself?
The thinker is naked man

who /NEET/ here?

>>1613208
I'm not him, but I've taken some undergrad econ. Funny enough, it made me into a socialist, and I don't actually disagree with what's being taught at all. I just think socialism is the answer. All the arguments against socialism are really not argument's against socialism, they're arguments about specific implementations, like centrally planned economies, equality, welfare state and redistribution, which are really all bourgeois as fuck. None of the arguments about labor exploitation or workers owning the means of production.

>>1609471
>majoring in law

that's as retarded as majoring in premed

Did anyone here study Ethnology? Is it worth it?

>>1616937
People don't seem to understand that many (if not most economists) end up becoming socialists, because they get to see exactly how absurd, inefficient and bogus the current market-based system is. Even professors who don't identify as socialists will tell you things like supply-side policies and many other ideas are actually "horse-shit" in practice.

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Anyone here study International Relations?
Currently enjoying it and it's pretty much the cool kids' major in my country.

>>1617118

Yeah boy. Starting my IR masters next year.

>>1611062
Are you saying you got a job designing those people on traffic signs and such?

>>1617152
I think he means to say he works construction now

>>1606003
Yeah I heard they opened up a pure mathematics factory down the road.

>>1606441
>A
>FUCKING
>BARREL

>>1617110
To briefly preview our results, those who took more economics classes or who majored
in economics or business were more likely to be members of the Republican party and less likely to join the Democratic party. Those findings hold even after controlling for the higher salary, higher equity in real estate holdings, and earning a graduate degree.
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/staff_reports/sr450.pdf