Slavery

Who would purchase a black woman?

>>1605231
It's pretty good now. Ointment has come a long way since magical witch grandma times.

Slavery is fine

>>1605241
Poor people?

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>>1605231

They just don't make salves today like they used to.

>>1605244

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IS IT THAT SLAVERY IS "FINE" FOR ANYONE INVOLVED WITH IT.

>>1605231
>What's /his/ opinion on salvery in old times compared to now?
It was probably easier to regulate when it was legal.

It's a real pain in the ass to police in current times.

>Official estimates of individuals in sexual slavery worldwide vary. In 2001 the International Organization for Migration estimated 400,000, the Federal Bureau of Investigation estimated 700,000 and UNICEF estimated 1.75 million.[132]

(2001? Damn Wikipedia that's pathetic.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_slavery#Contemporary

>>1605377
i get large amounts of labor without needing large infrastructure to support it, how is that not fine?

>>1605242
This is the witty stuff /his/ approves of. Good work anon.

>>1605377
This is the namefagging caps locking bullshit /his/ does not approve of.

Plz GTFO k thx bye

>>1605380
>>1605382
(you)

>>1605378
>It's a real pain in the ass to police in current times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking#Revenue

>In 2008, the United Nations estimated nearly 2.5 million people from 127 different countries were being trafficked into 137 countries around the world.[15]

>>1605384
Yes.
>>1605378
>>1605380
>>1605382
>>1605389
Me.

You got beef with that?

Try a salad.

>>1605231
great thread OP

>>1605379

1. YOU ARE DEPRIVING OTHER BEINGS FROM THEIR FREEDOM.

2. THE DEPENDENCE ON MANUAL LABOUR PERPETUATES TECHNOLOGICAL STASIS, PRECLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE EFFICIENT, AND BENEVOLENT, METHODS.

3. SLAVERY PRODUCES EPIGENETICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ABOMINATIONS, RESULTING IN GENERATIONS OF SUBHUMAN SLAVISH INDIVIDUALS.

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Your clothes are made in a Indian/Chinese sweatshop. Your electronics are made by people who live on a bowl of rice a day. Slavery is alive and well. You wouldn't have your comfortable life if it wasn't for war and slavery.

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>>1605241
Anybody who wanted work done.
There are literatures discussing the pro/cons of slaves.
White slaves were concubines or pleasure boys.
While black were for labor.

>>1605401
1. Why do I care about other beings freedom?
2. If I live in an agrarian society that needs slavery why do I give a shit about technological stasis, I'm at the top owning slaves technology would only cause my influence to lower
3. But they are slaves, who cares if they have genetic mutations?

>>1605401
>1. YOU ARE DEPRIVING OTHER BEINGS FROM THEIR FREEDOM.
Implying you're free now.
The government can put you in jail.
And become somebody's bitch.
>2. THE DEPENDENCE ON MANUAL LABOUR PERPETUATES TECHNOLOGICAL STASIS, PRECLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE EFFICIENT, AND BENEVOLENT, METHODS.
There are weird things in the middle of the desert called pyramids.
>3. SLAVERY PRODUCES EPIGENETICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ABOMINATIONS, RESULTING IN GENERATIONS OF SUBHUMAN SLAVISH INDIVIDUALS.
This I agree with you.
Because why would someone use trip on an anonymous image board.

>>1605407
>we had no delinquents
They destroyed the property and lives of the people from across the river, but then again those weren't really people in their view. Such is the way of simple men.

>>1605407
>if there are no laws there is no such thing as cheating

and these people are supposed to be considered civilized

>>1605418
>>1605414

YOUR ABYSMAL COMPREHENSION IS BOTH, APALLING, AND DISAPPOINTING, YET, EXPECTED.

id buy the one on the far right no second thoughts

>>1605426
your desire to apply modern liberal ideals on historic societies is more so

>>1605427
Patrician taste

>>1605428

1. SLAVERY IS WHAT IT IS, REGARDLESS OF THE ERA.

2. REPUDIATION OF SLAVERY IS NOT CONTINGENT ON POLITICAL POSITION; THAT FACT THAT YOU IMMEDIATELY ASSOCIATE IT A CERTAIN POLITICAL SECTOR EVINCES YOUR STUNTED PETTY MIND.

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>>1605231
doesn't look to different from todays slave markets in Saudi Arabian malls.
Except they are very comfy 22°C and the slaves are dressed properly.

>>1605438
>... [THE] FACT THAT...

>MUH FEELS! -ryzhknd
Not an argument

>>1605348
Fuck it, sauce

>>1605425
If you want to stop robbers from stealing your money, get rid of your money. The same philosophy is found in the bible and the tao Te ching.

>>1605456
its that italian "fake documentary" slave movie.
I do not remember the title but it was the one where some native negros threatened to kill everyone because they thought they were white.
The only reason they didnt slaughter the whole cast & crew was because some african working with them said "they are not white people, they are italian".

>>1605438
Slavery has taken many different forms over the course of human history. To say that it is one dimensional is short sighted and extremely euro/american-centric. The slavery of the middle east, china, and ancient rome were actually pretty well run systems that allowed their empires expand much faster than they would have otherwise.

From how you are arguing I can tell this is personal for you for some reason and as such I really don't think you are in any position to adequately provide commentary or discussion about the subject. Personal bias should be avoided when discussing or studying historical matters.

>>1605461
except robbers don't only steal money... I also have possessions, and the labor my body produces which people could steal from me by enslaving me

>>1605463

I REITERATE: YOUR UTTER LACK OF COMPREHENSION AND IMMEDIATE PURELY UTILITARIAN VIEW OF SLAVERY DOES NOTHING BUT EVINCE YOUR SUBHUMANITY.

>>1605443
>slave markets in Saudi Arabian malls.
Not only in SA but world wide.
The issue is it's not called slavery anymore and you can't fuck them to produce a male heir.

>>1605471
and your continued insults and use of caps only confirms my second point. Also i would prefer you to make an argument rather than just call me names.

>>1605462
>"they are not white people, they are italian"
I can't stop laughing.

>>1605467
>An advanced medieval society is gonna steal your fish and corn produced by a small hunter-gatherer semi agrarian society.
Your product is only valued when it is in large numbers. I doubt a small primitive tribe would fight another small primitive tribe just to get their food when it comes from the same place.

Slaves took a long time to train and cultures like the ancient germanics would have the women and children kill themselves upon defeat so as not to be enslaved.

>>1605471
Stop typing in all caps, you nigger.

>>1605471
>no arguments
>literally just insults
Will capsfaggot ever recover?

>>1605478

THE ARGUMENT HAS CONCLUDED; WHAT REMAINS IS THE AFTERMATH.

>>1605485
i don't understand what you are trying to argue, are you saying that raiding has never happened? raiding happened in most societies especially those without an established form of currency.

Just because slaves are hard to train doesn't mean people wont take them, not every society is as autistic as germans and woman and children are taken as slaves.

Also what era are you arguing about? i'm saying that during any time period whether money exists or not there are things people can rob from you that aren't money making the give up money so you can't be robbed is a bad argument.

>>1605495
wait so you admit defeat and are just hanging around to insult me about it?

>>1605497
Raiding isn't feasible. Even the vikings who were the most notorious raiders of all time did not sustain themselves solely off raiding. They colonized and established their own kingdoms.

If a primitive tribe is going to raid another primitive tribe then they will have to kill (unless the tribe freely gives away their food) and by killing they have destroyed the possibility of future raiding of the tribe. Also, raiding results in losses on both sides, when the vikings raided the primitive tribes of North America and Greenland they suffered losses and were repelled back, and this is the vikings who had metal swords and spears vs a people who had little more than bone clubs and spears.

>>1605377
Stop typing in all caps, you nigger.

>>1605418
>There are weird things in the middle of the desert called pyramids.

And?

They were not built by slaves, you ignorant fuck.

>>1605438
Wow for once I agree with you, this teels a lot about the quality of this slow ass board.

>>1605537
so you are admitting that raiding existed.

i'm not arguing whether it is feasible, profitable, or a way societies ran. I am arguing that should someone try and take my stuff they aren't necessarily going to just walk away when they find out I don't have money which is what the original debate was about.

>>1605451
Slavery is an ecenomic drain as well as an intellectual one. Your autistic desire to treat other people like cattle.

>>1605636

YOU ARE MISUSING THE TERM "AUTISTIC".

>>1605499

Why are you baiting the autist, come on.

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>>1605231
they had green slave women back then? dank

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>>1605635
What stuff would you even have in a primitive existence? The whole idea that someone is going to rob you when you live a shitty poor life is ridiculous and a result of Western civilization. Do people mug beggars? Or do they mug those walking around in fancy clothes? Without money you would have nothing to rob unless you were a large society who stores up food. A hunter gatherer existence with some agrarianism will not really attract raiding parties, maybe some hungry lone wolf outcasts but not a considerable threat.

I'm not a communist or an anarchoprimitivist. But I do believe that the more you try to store up for yourself, the more likely you are to be robbed.

Could you imagine some tribe trying to raid those in pic related? What would they have to gain that they couldn't get for themselves with the same amount or even lesser effort?

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>>1605462

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>>1605462
>"they are not white people, they are italian".

>>1605241
In old ottoman paintings there were always black female slaves helping with the household and stuff so probably for that.

>>1605783
>>1605746
>>1605462
>>1605479

Haha really funny, this must be bullshit never happened

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>>1605858

Found the upsetti spaghetti

>>1605603
>Pyramids
>not build by slaves
Ignorance is a condition, stupidity is a choice.

>>1605912
Yes and you're choosing to be ignorant

>>1605485
>Your product is only valued when it is in large numbers. I doubt a small primitive tribe would fight another small primitive tribe just to get their food when it comes from the same place.
They literally did exactly that, fucking moron.

If you wipe out other tribes, food sources last longer and you're less likely to die off in winter, or during drought or famine.

You don't even need to kill them, just drive them away.

American Indians did this shit all the fucking time.

>>1605231
It was far better back then on average.
Mostly because in ancient times most middle class and above people had slaves, which means lots of moral owners. Whereas nowadays only criminals have slaves, which means they are treated no better than roman mine slaves.

>>1605738
Women, slaves, land, reduced competition for resources.

Native Americans raided each other constantly. So did fucking island tribes in the pacific. You're arguing a fantasy.

>>1605912

>"slaves"
>they literally discovered massive marked graves and tablets honoring and naming the best workers

Some slaves....

There was an african kingdom, that threatened to go to war with the British, over slavery. The africans depended on slave trade for a huge chunk of the economy. The British were trying to put an end to it.

>>1606470
true
king Oba Kosoko of Lagos 1851

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>>1605241
>Who would purchase a black woman?

I would, assuming they're hot. I'd have had a huge harem and spent my days fucking (and all of you would also).

>>1605241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59K2kF6o9Tk

>>1605241
Thomas Jefferson

>>1605231

Uneeded. Waste of human life, unnecessary death.

It's free labor, what's not to like?

Before, we we required to look after the health and well being of our slaves, them being valuable assets, and morale increasing production.

Now, we rent our slaves with a payment per hour instead of upfront payment, and are no longer required to take care of them or ensure their well being. We have turned a valuable asset into a disposable one.

I think we were better off before.