Why has socialism never taken off in a Protestant country?

Protestant work ethic.

It's a Jesuit conspiracy

>>1600110
East Germany, Estonia and Latvia.

>>1600110
It kinda did in Finland in the early 20th c.

>>1600110
Germany had a communist revolution, but it was put down.

too invested in their heritage

>>1600114
do people still fall for this meme

>>1600128
Of those, only Germany had its own sincere revolution

Although a lot of Latvians supported the Reds for the same reason a lot of Jews did

>>1600110
Because Protestants recognize how gay it is desu

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>>1600110
Germany almost became a democratic communist society but the liberals murdered them all

>>1600142
But that was in the catholic areas

>>1600123
Outside of South America, are many Jesuits commies?

>>1600161
Revolutions happened simultaneously in Berlin, Kiel, and Bavaria. On the latter was Catholic.

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>>1600110
>Why has socialism never taken off in a Protestant country?

>>1600110
>East Germany

>>1600159
>democratic communist
That's an oxymoron.

>>1600159
>democratic communist

>>1600110
>national SOCIALISM

>>1600110
Protestant socialism is just completely redundant.

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>>1600159
Fucking social democrats

>>1600110
>Germany
>the USA
>Sweden
>not communist

>>1600110
The very first Christians tried it and failed miserably, so it wasn't really a model for us.

The very first puritans to set foot on what would become US soil also tried it, and it failed miserably.

So we tend to avoid things that fail miserably.

>>1600110
Because satanists don't like the concept of helping each other.

>>1600634
How so?

>>1600769
What? 17th century New England was chill as fuck, especially when compare to free market capitalist Jamestown

>>1600758
I'm a social democrat, please stop lumping us together with commie scum

>>1600196
>>1600652
>national socialism
>socialism

>>1600765
How are they communist?
>>1601263
Only a totalitarian regime can keep you from exercising your right to property.

>>1601330
Social democracy was first used to refer to an ideology that advocated achieving socialism through democratic means.

>>1601330
Fuck off liberal. Also social democrats were in there for the joke about how you all claim o be socialists and then ruin it all

>>1601270
I'm talking about the events that led up to the first Thanksgiving.

>>1600110
Most protestant countries didn't have the condition of misery, oligarchy and corruption necessary for radical parties(be it socialism, nazism, socialism or anarquism) to thrive

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>>1601330
Oh really, are you that different? Not striving towards the common goal eh?

>>1601270
There's a really fascinating read on this topic in William Bradford's Of Plymouth Plantation. It's the section called "Prosperity Weakens Community"

>>1601363
Tell me why property is a right

>>1601393
Virginians had even worse hardships, but instead of a happy Thanksgiving they resorted to cannibalism

>>1600110
>Why has socialism never taken off in a Protestant country?
>what is Scandinavia

>>1600110
Sweden.

>>1601873
Socials democracy isn't socialism

Bernie lied, sorry

>>1601925
then what is socialism

>>1601925
Social democracy is slow and steady progress towards socialism, rather than via revolution.

That is pretty much a part of social democratic philosophy.

>>1601958
That's democratic socialist. See UK circa 1955.

Scandinavian economies are some of the most free in the world. They are built on capitalism.

But the terms are confusing so whatever.

>>1601975
>They are built on capitalism.

Yes, but I think the principle is "you take your capitalist system and gradually implement socialist policy over time."

Because doing it all at once is asking for a clusterfuck.

>>1601982
The Scandinavian economies have been largely turning more and more capitalistic.

There is nothing socialist about the Nordic model. Only dumb Americans believe this.

>>1601982
So accelerationism?

>>1601411
No. Social democracy =/= democratic socialism. The former is basically welfare capitalism, the latter is just another commieshit but with elections instead of a revolution.

Because socialism is cancer.

>>1601944
Workers, instead of bosses, controlling industry

>>1601958
Nah you're thinking of democratic socialism

Social democracy is reformism to assume the harms of capitalism without changing capitalism

>>1600166
I think >>1600123 was beeing ironic, friend.

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>communists

>>1600142

A revolution lead by atheist Jews, not Protestants

>>1602811
>Why has socialism never taken off in a Protestant country?
A big part of Germany is protestant.

>>1602811
Liebknecht wasn't Jewish, Friendo

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>>1600758
The Anti-Revisionist needs a Qeleshe

>>1600110
Although that statement isnt correct, this book might answer your question. The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism - Max Weber.

>>1601354
>national socialism
>not socialism
Oh no it's the "trust us goy we're not socialists" /pol/tard

>>1600110

Because Protestantism is a meme adopted by only a handful of Christian countries.
Also, socialism took off in Germany.

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>>1600110

It was successful in Oklahoma in the early 1900's, with 984 chapters, the most of any state in 1912.

>Rather than embracing “true” communism and its abolition of private property, Oklahoman socialists advocated land redistribution so that farmers could conceivably own their own property instead of paying someone else rent, regardless of how their farms performed each year. They borrowed from Thomas Jefferson, lionizing the “yeoman farmer” in opposition to bankers, lawyers and other privileged classes. In such terms, socialism sounded less like a foreign ideology borne from a German political economist and more like the continuation of the United States’ own Founding Fathers. Additionally, Oklahoman socialists invoked Jesus Christ and the Bible, giving their strain of the socialist movement a “Christian socialist” character. With Jesus’ identification with the poor, sick and oppressed, it has never been a hard case to make in any Christian society that Jesus was on the side of the plebeians against the patricians, and the Oklahoman socialists made that case well. Although God is often cited in today’s political rhetoric against extending civil rights to homosexuals or giving women the right to choose, in the past God often featured heavily in the speeches and pamphlets of left-wing radicals who utilized the compassion and charity in the Christian tradition rather than its intolerance and hatred. It seems doubtful that socialism would have bloomed bright red in Oklahoma had it not changed to fit the local political and cultural language. In many other places, socialism tried to change that language to suit its own needs, and often died on the vine as a result.


https://bakuninmatata.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/history-of-a-red-state-oklahoma-hotbed-of-u-s-socialism-2/

Socialism is at full work in Scandinavia which is overwhelmingly Lutheran.

>>1605149
Social democracy isn't socialism

>>1600110
After all this "Hurr durr I wann read fo mah self!!!!" bullshit, you might think their literacy rate is i bit higher than some Russian peasant farmers.

>>1605182
real social democracy has never been tried

>>1600110
>Why has socialism never taken off in a Protestant country?
>>1600114
>Protestant work ethic.
>>1600153
>do people still fall for this meme
Just the Protestants.

...which is why they can't into socialism and communism.

>MUH JOHN CALVIN
>MUH SUFFERING
>MUH TERRIBLE WORTHLESS SELF
>MUH WORK WORK WORK
>MUH HOPE GOD FORGIVES ME FOR BEING BORN
>MUH I WAS NOT BORN RICH SO I MUST SUFFER

>>1600128
yeah but baltics sort of don't count since the farmers didn't give a shit about the church and life was conducted in traditional way

>>1600110
>muh protestant work ethic

Seriously, it's just a coincidence. There are fewer protestant countries, so there are simply fewer opportunities. And you could argue that socialism had quite a foothold in Britain and Germany at one point.

But it did, massively, in Munster under the Anabaptists.