why were Arabs so OP when they were first introduced and why

>>1590610
Muslims were aborted arc. They supposed to be continuation of Christian story but proven to limited in use so they switched focus back to Christianity.

>>1590610
>they
Idk why they got nurfed but they are slowly going back their power though political correctness

>>1590610
Players where shouting racism

>>1590610
>Arab sources
>"swordofallah.com"
>"Koran"
>"no citations provided"

>>1591007
this pretty much topkek, arabs had no such knowledge to have such supply lines, this is all invented non sense in the 15th century to get some shekels and converts for glorious islam!

Vince McMahon really wanted Muhammed to get over but you can never count out Big Match John the Baptist

this boards humor is below reddits

>>1590610
IIRC, the Mongol patch is what did them in. They never really recovered.

>>1591015

You dont need supply lines on what is essentially a successful raid.

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>>1591015
>arabs had no such knowledge to have such supply lines
>people like Khalid Ibn Al-Walid specifically target supply lines and with a heavily mobile, cavalry force outmanoeuvre enemy forces while being heavily outnumbered to defeat them

Why do people get so triggered by Arabs and try to deny them any sort of capability?

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>>1591015
the arabs pretty much battled close near the desert where they excelled everytime so they can quickly dissapear after every raid. and they were a merchant people by trade. what makes you think they have no knowledge about supply lines?

>>1591007
???

the muslim conquest were heavily documented by both sides historian

>"In this year the Saracens—an enormous multitude of them—(setting out from) Arabia, made an expedition to the region of Damascus. When Baanes had learnt of this, he sent a message to the imperial sakellarios, asking the latter to come with his army to his help, seeing that the Arabs were very numerous. So the sakellarios joined Baanes 338 and, setting forth from Emesa, they met the Arabs. Battle was given and, on the first day, which was a Tuesday, the 23rd of the month Loos, the men of the sakellarios were defeated. Now the soldiers of Baanes rebelled and proclaimed Baanes emperor, while they abjured Herakleios. Then the men of the sakellarios withdrew, and the Saracens, seizing this opportunity, joined battle. And as a south wind was blowing in the direction of the Romans, they could not face the enemy on account of the dust and were defeated. Casting themselves into the narrows of the river Hiermouchthas (yarmouk), they all perished, the army of both generals numbering 40,000. Having won this brilliant victory, the Saracens came to Damascus and captured it, as well as the country of Phoenicia, and they settled there and made an expedition against Egypt."

Sauce:Chronicle of Theophanes the cofessor (Oxford University Press: 1997), 469-470.

we even know how khalids manouvered his armies in both battles thanks to tabari

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Q%C4%81disiyyah#The_battle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk#Battle

Because Islam ads a +1 discipline and +5 morale bonus while making any military research 200% more expansive. This means that Pagan factions adopting Islam will do great initially but will start doing worse and worse as their tech penalty makes them fall behind their neighbors.

>>1591406

Theres a difference knowing that supply lines are important and creating and maintaining one.

Arabs at that time were strong fighters. We must pay credit were credits due.

The second battle in OP pic is interesting. The Persians heavily outnumbered the Arabs in all battles and yet the Arabs still managed to pull off a series of upsets.

>qaddisiyah

>During one meeting, Yazdgerd III, intent on humiliating the Muslims, ordered his menials to place a basket full of earth on the head of Asim ibn Amr, a member of the emissary. The optimistic Muslim ambassador interpreted this gesture with the following words: "Congratulations! The enemy has voluntarily surrendered its territory to us" (referring to the earth in the basket).[13] Rustam, the Persian general, held a view similar to Asim ibn Amir. He allegedly rebuked Yazdgerd III for the basket of earth because it signifies that the Persian voluntarily surrendered their land to the Muslims. Yazdgerd III, upon hearing this, called a small band of soldiers to pursue the Muslim emissaries; however, it was too late as the Muslims emissaries had already reached their base camp at that point.

top kek

>>1591460
that one was pretty lucky though. the persians center and right wing suceeded in repealing the muslim attack on day 4 and then suddenly on day 5 rustam died out of fucking nowhere and the persians retreated towards the river while they were massacred by the muslim troops