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How do you turn a bunch of tribes into a state?

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How do you turn a bunch of tribes into a state?
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Hegemony
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>>1576733
investment
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>>1576733
Christianity
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>>1576733
You call yourself a king.
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You kick their asses hard enough and tell them they're you now and then tribes was you
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>>1576733
Like Tokugawa Ieyasu did. Kill everyone else and call yourself the new emperor.
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>>1576733
By looking at the ugly, evil fucks out there and thinking how easily you'd kill and loot all of them with the guys over here, who are pretty similiar to you in the end.
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>>1576733
tribes A and B have a dispute
C doesn't really give a hoot
A and B fight it out
C shows up and makes B win
C and B are now best friends though C is stronger because they only showed up at the end
D and E have a dispute
C and B show up
etc

it really works itself out, pretty much.
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>>1576733
Temujin, anyone?
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Step A: Define a shared identity that covers all the tribes you want to assimilate.
Step B: Pretend those tribes have always been an integral part of that group
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>>1576733
Convince them to follow a king. Raise an aristocracy to support that king. Make that aristocracy believe the benefits of a king outweighs dissolving the kingdom and going it alone. Have that aristocracy support the crown as personal property and right of a royal line, then eventually as an institution itself. Expand a bureaucracy around that institution. You now have a state.
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>>1576733
You have to give your Legion a Rome.
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>>1576922
this
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>>1576733
Conquest/diplomacy
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>>1576733

Creating a bureaucratic system
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>>1576909
This.
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>>1576885
How do you make A forget about it's enmity with B and C in order to fight F, G and H?
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>>1576965
You eliminate tribe A completely.
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The ayy lmaos
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>>1576971
Nah, that's a waste of human resources. A better way to use them is to divide and conquer their loyalty. Remove the leaders from power, divide the families of that tribe in both B and C tribe. Both tribes intergrate the families of A tribe and A tribe will cease to exist. Now you have superior B and C which might as well fuse to become bigger.
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>>1576965
you're supposed to pick them off one by one, not three at a time.

also the losers may be dead, enslaved, etc.
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>>1576733
usually the tribes unite against a common external threat
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>>1576984
That still eliminates tribe A completely.
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>>1576733
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_on_violence
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>>1576831
The question was how you turn a bunch of tribes into a state.

Not how you turn a state into a bunch of tribes.
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>>1576733
angrily conquering them, establishing some kind of administrative system, and maybe mix a little ideological buzzwords over your rule.
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