/his/ vidya

>>1567156
play chess and look at it as a turn based strategy game, in 3d!

>>1567156
play Eu4 and forget Civ it's a pleb game

>>1567191
Eh, eu4 is difficult only while you're learning the mechanics, once you learn how things work the game gets way too easy

>>1567156
Obligatory
>Crusader Kings II
>Rome TW
>Atilla TW
>TW Shogunate

>>1567156
>Civilization
>Oh gee look Gandhi just launched a nuke on the Montezuma and the Aztec empire and they retaliated by sending warships and calling their allies the Brits who still live in the stone age
>this this is historical in any way

I will honestly never understand why Civ gets even mentioned on this board.

>>1567262
Because it's Super Smash Bros: /his/.

Britons suck

>>1567277
their light cavalry should cost 3 f less

What is the best civilization in AoE2?

>>1567235
As someone who's played from the start, the game has developed from a generic map painter to a good challenge. And I'm familiar with the ins and outs of the game + willing to abuse every cheesy strat I've figured out over my 1k hours of play.
A new player just now getting it vs. a new player getting it at release are going to have different experiences.

Launch EU4 was literally as crap as launch HOI4 is, though.

Mount and Blade: Warband
Rise of Nations

>>1567306
>Launch EU4 was literally as crap as launch HOI4 is

No it was much worse.

>>1567156
The best historical games I played were Vietcong and LA Noire. In LA Noire in particular the inaccuracies are so minor they're not even worth mentioning.

>>1567305
Arabia//rush// - Huns
Black Forest//turtle - Britons
I am a huge fucking faggot and take an active part in the disintegration of the game's multiplayer community - Celts
Turtling in general - Byzantines
Opponent is a know archer chucklefuck - Rage Goths

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>>1567317
>HOI4 apologist

>>1567330
HoI4 is shit. I'm just saying EU4 was even shittier.

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>>1567305
Byzantines
flush op
knight xbow op
anti knight op
buildings op
tech (strat) op
their eco is weak though so play in 4s
4v4 was how the series was made to be played anyway
http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Byzantines

>>1567324
I am a huge fucking faggot and take an active part in the disintegration of the game's multiplayer community - Celts
yeah but you dont know why you think its the wood bonus but thats only because the only active part of the community right now has completely forgot how to do a 20 minute imperial

>>1567324
and he said aok not aoc

you want a 1-3 mix of your camels in your knights. 16:44 latest age 3 with 3+stables, cart asap (because greater marginal return ie an all in tech adv especially with the age 2 lumbar, mining, farm techs researched because they have no natural economic advantage thus greater return relativistically to other options Pmeans more)

>>1567262
Civ's mechanics are, broadly speaking, a reflection of history theory.

>>1567353
Is this poster being ironically or unironically autistic?

his games that I don't need to buy? I'm poor

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greater utility, greater value

just quietly byzantines are greek and greeks are op in all aoe

aoe 1 greek hoplites are the strongest tier break unit in the game, they are cavalry, but infantry classification - no weakness
likewise aoe 2 orientation of play, at the least, and 14 minute longsword rushes, or drush into 16-7min longswords is something comp play has never done, but it can be, and its op as fuck because the drush fucks you off gold then you got m@a in teamgames if you want to or onto age 3 with rams, priests, and massed infa with aforementioned tech boom out of your turtle (That you werent even trying to do).

aoe 3 i got nothing

aoeo greek hoplites greatest unit in game again

aom greek hoplites again

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>>1567364
im a Grandmaster at aoc with a 155kg max deadlift, i could crush you like a grape here, under ur fedora, with my katana, anywhere.

you can do it wish spanish too with a smith rax stable up but with spanish u research melee atk first from smith for knights and byzantines you upgrade infantry line armor and can all in shovey a bit more, then go to cav tech once you need camels, keep all units alive, and build a monastery before third tc (spanish if its aoc..)

like a reaper double tech rush in sc2 but with drush (if u even need to) into an infantry ball.

if they wall ull be in trouble but team 4s can scout-bully, tower, flush, drush, and still do sub 17 stacked inf

their cost @ 60f 20g is basically a villager, so mix it in and get fleshy with forward flushy tower @ raxs. early boars & deer are the only way, 1 lumbercamp, this is new meta.. its much more streamline

else just go 14min cav arch and build a mangudai for tc

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>>1567390

mangonel even

>>1567369
just pirate them all

>>1567346
let's be honest there's no better strategy in multiplayer than rushing your opponent with a fuck huge army of cheap as fuck pikemen backed with longswords and skirmishers

>>1567369
In the last 10 years I bought maybe 2% of games I actually played.

>>1567468

true asf. wood to seige & rax to longarms after successful flushes to close out games.

getting that one map in heroes of might and magic 2 or 3 where you have lumber, stone, and your civs specialty requirement within 1 screen of ur starting base

>t. been rolling for 3 years for a chance to do an all in sulphur dragon rush with dungeon

>>1567472

pretty sure goat stimulators on sale in steam right now

>>1567241
This

>>1567306
>over my 1k hours of play.
>thinking this is a lot

I like to play as the Saracens and rek the Byzantines and convert everything to Islam.

>>1567463
I'm old, don't know the ins and outs of pirating. Wish I did

>>1567524
>t. proto islam

>>1567191
I've wanted to get eu4 but it looks too intimidating it terms of ui etc

>>1567235
It's like most of these games, the more time you put into it the more you realise how limited it is. I'd imagine they'd be a lot better in multiplayer (tfw no 4k strategy mates)

>>1567324
>I am a huge fucking faggot and take an active part in the disintegration of the game's multiplayer community - Celts
I don't get it.

But then, I don't think I've played against the Celts, yet, in my 20 something games online.

desu, i'd love a /k/ style game where it was a massively multiplayer online open world with players maintaining military bases, having real life historical and present day guns, modification, sandbox-esque gameplay, and, best of all, of course, fighting

Verdun is great btw

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>ctrl f
>no Europa Barbarorum II

do you plebs even imperium?

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>>1567156
I loved Attila Total War. The release was a lot more stable than Empire, Napoleon, and Rome II Total War. The Nomads were the only broken part of the game. Creative Assembly nerfed them somewhat, but wanted to preserve their historical OPness (if such a word exists).

There are God-tier mods for the game both on ModDB.com and the Steam Workshop. I definitely recommend it for any history nerd. It is a lot of fun and gives you the basics of history.

Of course there are many inaccuracies... but it's a vidya game called "Total War". It delivers just that.

>>1567533
all it involves is downloading a client (go for something like Deluge) and clicking on magnet links

it ain't hard senpai

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>>1568051
Verdun is great, I agree

>>1568367
That being said... Rome II holds a soft spot because the first Rome Total War was my first in the series. It was very nostalgic seeing so much brought back from the first game.

Except the agents. Fuck that poisoning the spies could do. 25% of my army dead and I can't move.... too broken

Oriental Empires

>>1568352
Im just waiting for it to finish really, I couldnt stand uncompleted work in mods.

>>1567282
>implying your average brit player cares about cavalry

>>1567370
that would be nice if drushes weren't instantly countered by walls and longswords get raped by archers


this board needs more aoe discussion

>>1568453
When was the last time you played it?

>>1568518
Last year, dled the latest patch n shiet.

>>1568352
Look here faggot

EB2 has bad combat because the medieval 2 engine is garbage, EB1 is the better game

The only thing EB2 has in favor of it is graphics
Fight me

War of rights, you should check it out

>>1567241
>Casual Babby: The Post

>>1567241
my nigga

>>1568713
CK2 is the only paradox game that isnt a spreadsheet simulator. also, the Total War games aren't even that casual

i play Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld on the reg, but theyre not /his/, so

>>1568539
2.2b has just come out, defo quite a bit of improvements.

I understand wanting to wait until it's complete though.

>>1568546

Med 2 is the same engine as Rome 1 with slight refinements.

>better pathfinding
>no sanic gottagofast agile cavalry that can right angle turn while maintaining perfect unit cohesion
>better unit mass
>better pacing, less frequency of easy mass routs

Literally a non-complaint. EB2 is far more stable than EB1 final release, and uses the expanded Med 2 campaign mechanics alongside more factions. A no-brainer.

fight me

>tfw American

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uj3-VkbRSKQ

>>1568388
don't i need some kind of VPN ?

>>1568841
Are you the creator/part of the team? I can understand you are trying to defend your work but lets be honest here:

The medieval 2 engine is a dumbed down version of the one RTW had. Units are missing a lot of stats that were helpful in their balancing, such as unit lethality to help rhompaiophoroi and other units that were meant to take out heavily armored units. In EB2 right now because of this units take fucking forever to die, very boring.
Then there is the issue of units with projectiles being unable to charge on command, they have to throw their projectiles first so if you are also getting charged those units are defenseless.

Other than that, I admire that EB2 has removed a lot of the fantasy units EB1 had, of course they are still missing a lot of the historical units EB1 had. The mod also is smoother simply because of the newer engine, although it is inferior to RTW's.

>better pathfiding
Literally what, I haven't noticed any different in the two
All your other arguments fall on a per stat basis depending on the stats they choose for each unit, mass and such things are moddable, this is up to the creators, there is a big variation of such in the units
>better pacing, less frequency of easy mass routs
Bullshit, again depends on unit stats, and your general

I hope they fix the current problems that I mentioned to make the game as good as EB1, but I am skeptical since like I have stated, the MED2 engine is GARBAGE.

I recommend you stick to EB1 and leave superficial things such as graphics aside

>>1567156
forget civ 5 its my 6 years old sister tier. why not man up and play adults games like hearts of iron 4, crusader kings 2, stellaris, victoria 2. you might learn something if you aint a pleb for life like most people if not just die

>>1568937
t. paradox pro

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What does /his/ think of Company of Heroes?

>>1569128
excellent game for weekend warriors and historical virgins. that feel when you eat something that makes you incredibly fat and still feel hungry

>>1569128
I liked DoW so I was a bit disappoited when CoH became the sequel in terms of its mechanics, but really the unit mix and armour make for a far superior game, pretty good fun. Shame about all of the microtransactions in II though.

>>1567268
Holy fuck this
Paradox games are the DaS of /his/

>>1567156
Consider Victoria 2

>>1569189
>DaS
?

>>1569195
Dark souls
In that it is generally liked but people shit post about them

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Rule the Waves

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/07/17/the-flare-path-rule-the-waves/#more-302131

>>1568727
>EU4 is a spreadsheet simulator
Babby indeed.
If anything, EU is actually easier than CK2

>tfw there will never an AOE I HD remake
Why live?

>>1571291
Lol no. CK2 is the easiest of them all.

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>>1567156
Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Bannerlord
[spoiler]inb4 >coming out shortly[/spoiler]

>>1568442
When's the release date for that? It just say Sep on Steam.

Has any additional information been released about it other than what's available on steam?

>>1571623
If you just want to paint the map then yes, CK2 is the easiest. The thing is CK2 is more of an RPG than a grand strategy, all the fun is in the dynastic shenanigans.

Meanwhile the gameplay of EU4 is just reduced to "declare war". Painting the map is literally the only thing you can do in EU4.

>>1571609
This.

>tfw I just want a game about the Bronze Age while everyone just creates shit about Rome, Middle Ages and WW2

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>>1573268
aom & tt are in high definition on steam