Do you think he's right?

>>1564813

I thought Russian was western.

>>1564813
No.

>>1564813
>poland
>western

>The Falkland islands
>South American
Fucking Argies I swear

>>1564839
Poland was literally always considered western from the 11th century AD up until 1949 AD. The definition of western civilization is "Latin based Catholic culture that uses Latin writing system where the core was made up of France, Germany and Italy" as opposed to Eastern European civilization that's "Greek Based Orthodox civilization that uses either Greek or Cyrilic writing and where the core was made up of Greece, Anatolia and some Slavs".

Poland is Catholic and Latin and was therefore always part of the Western civilization before the arbitrary division of the world at the onset of the Cold War. Also Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were all Western cultures that ended up in the political Eastern Europe while Greece was an Eastern European culture (literally the origin point of Eastern European civilization) that ended up on the political Western European civilization.

This confusion is why it's most accurate to talk about political Western and Eastern European civilization vs cultural Western and Eastern European civilization.

>>1564822
Russia is bit of a weird one. They're the spiritual successor the Byzantine Empire in the sense that they continued carrying the torch of Orthodoxy after Byzantium fell and Russians themselves are European and Eastern European people but Russia encompasses so much land in Asia that you could call it a transcontinental culture. And there is actually a strain of political thought in Russia that says Russia isn't really a European country but an heir to the Mongol Empire and a transcontinental country. This is especially helped by the fact that something like ~20% of Russians aren't ethnically Russians and most of those are remnants of the Mongol hordes.

>>1564813
>Japan
>Taoist
>Confucian
>Buddhist
>Somehow not sinitic

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WTF is Sinic and what is it doing in the middle of our country.

>>1564842
The Falkland Islands aren't even marked on the map

>>1564901
I can't be doing with this m8

Poland is slavic

Slavic culture is inherently different from Western culture

Europe is culturally divided into south (Italy, Iberia, and Greece), northwest (Celto-Germanic-Finnish), and eastern (all the rest)

>>1564927
Sinic means Chinese (like the Sino-Japanese war?). Don't know the etymology of the word but I do know that it makes chinks butthurt so I like it.

>>1564933
Problem with the "Slavics are inherently eastern" theory is that it's random and arbitrary and ignores most of the historical processes whereas my theory makes sense and can easily be followed from 285 AD to the present day.

>>1564949
How?

Slavic peoples share language, customs, history, folklore, and a common cultural identity

It's like claiming muslim arabs and christian arabs are two different civilizations

>>1564813
Why did he not consider latin america western?

>>1564988
Arbitrary

>>1564988
Too much non-western influence. Most of them are either descended from nig nogs or ancient Americans neither of which qualifies you for Western civilization.

Yes the United States has large minorities of non Western people as well but the US has done an excellent job historically of suppressing them. Personally, though, I'd revoke western status to Canada, they're multicultural meme at this point and not really Western.

>>1564962
No, it's like claiming that Ugandans and the Scottish are the same people because they both speak English.

>>1564962
>It's like claiming muslim arabs and christian arabs are two different civilizations
But they are. They have different customs, religion, views on world, duties, societies, often even different language (at least in Egypt which is also the most populous MENA country).

Ethnicity doesn't make up a civilization otherwise you'd have German civilization vs English civilization. And what would the French be then? They're mix of Germans, Latins, Danes, Norwegian and Celts.

>>1564997
>Too much non-western influence.

What?
>Christian
>Greco-Roman letters, art, architecture, philosophy, and cultural origin

Shit, even the christian middle east was considered western before Islam

How are they not western?

>>1564962
Also you're ignoring how ridiculously mixed Europe is. Genetically Germans and Poles are almost the same and English have a lot of Celtic and Scandinavian genes.

>>1564997
What are you on about? None of these non-westerns had written languages, it's all derivate from latin and their religion is literally non existing making latin america 90%+ Roman Catholic.

>>1565002
Did I say language was the sole factor?

Scots have more in common with other Gaels while Ugandans have more in common with Great Lakes Bantu.

>>1565020
This

>>1564933
Are you talking about the vacation area, actual europe and extended russia

>>1565125
Duh

>>1565039
Besides language there is very little connecting the Slavs.

>>1564813
>Guyana
>Hindu
M8...

>>1564931
Maybe he confused them with Tierra del Fuego...?

>>1565192
>Besides language there is very little connecting the Slavs.
There's almost nothing connecting the Slavs besides language. Genetically they're quite different from one another, culturally, religiously, ...

>>1565192
How?

>>1565212
What a vague question. How what?

>>1565216
How is?

>>1565232
Great post.

>>1564813
It's utter trash.
>Mongolia and Thailand are the same civilization because of Buddhism
>all non-Muslim Africans are a single civilization
>Latin America isn't Western
>special snowflake Japan
Nevermind that applying these historic 'civilizations' to the modern globalised world, where Western institutions and ideologies are dominant almost everywhere, is completely retarded.

>>1564927

I'm assuming you're from the Philippines? Yeah I honestly don't know.

>>1564822
Eastern Europe has a vastly different outlook than the Western Europe/West.

They're more down to utilitarian things than superficial pursuits of things like freedom/such.

>>1565358
Nah, it's more down to: 1) the history of Eastern Euros to be colonized (Russian as a people were basically colonized even if by their own upper class), 2) the diverging developments from 1918 to 1939 and the world war two and 3) the different developments from 1949 to 1989, most importantly the fact that Eastern Euros never had the 60s and the 70s like the West had so feminism, liberalism, multiculturism, mass immigration (US immigration laws were relaxed for the first time in 1965) and the rest of far left was never founded and never embedded itself into the society.

Of course part of the reason for that is that Eastern Europe was ruled by extreme authoritarian far left at the time but they still missed out on the social and political processes that started in the west. So Eastern Europe is like Western Europe but minus the developments of 60s and 70s and plus the experience of communism.

They also preserved some older 19th and early 20th century ideas that are considered not in good taste in the west like the idea of ethnic nationalism (that you have to be ethnically Polish, speak Polish fluently, be versed in Polish culture and Polish history before you're Polish) whereas Westerners prefer civic nationalism (as long as you're born in country x you're 100% of that country and no one can deny you that).

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>>1565309
>mfw someone implies that the west will remain dominant for much longer

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>>1565408
>mfw someone implies it won't

The only real threat West faces is mass immigration because of enemies and traitors from within but that can and will be solved once the anger of the people reaches a boiling point which isn't far from now.

But besides these subversive methods no on can challenge West and won't be able to for any foreseeable future.

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>>1565454
Are you implying that Sarkozy would save the West?

>>1565404
>Eastern Europe never had the 60s

Look up Prague Spring

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>>1565467
No, he was the first smug face I had.

Marine Le Pen will save west.

>>1565479
>Look up Prague Spring
And it got crushed and what influence it did have after that was entirely about nationalism and the right to have ethnic nation state, complete anathema to Western 60s and 70s thought.

Is Latin America really that different from the traditional west for there to be a clash of cultures on the same level as the Middle East and Europe in the present?

I mean yes, there's commies like Cuba and Venezuela, but aren't most countries in Latin America politically aligned with the US (capitalist, Brazil and Argentina having gay marriage before the US, Mexico and Chile embracing fast food, American media being popular, etc.)?

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>>1565526
>West culture is about capitalism, gay buttsex and McDonald's

>>1565526
>but aren't most countries in Latin America politically aligned with the US (
Traditionally only because the US forced them to because of the imperialist Monroe Doctrine and recently because they saw some economic growth and growth in standards and thought they were becoming like the US.

Historically Latin America was always predominantly left wing or outright commies.

>>1564938
>Origin and Etymology of sino-
>French, from Late Latin Sinae, plural, Chinese, from Greek Sinai, probably of Indo-Aryan origin; akin to Sanskrit Cīnā
Never heard of it making the chinese butthurt though

>>1564813

>Mongolia
>Buddhist

>>1564813
no.

his categories are as autistic as hey are inaccurate.

>>1564813
Absolutely wrong.

Intercourse > Clash.

And his civilizational divisions are fucking wrong. Plenty of overlaps between them, some shit ought to not exist ("""""""African""""""""" Civilization. """"""""""Japanese""""""""""" Civilization) and local realities ought to be fucking considered instead of just labelling all the people in one area "arr rook same"

>>1565536
It literally is, that's how Japan is considered western-aligned.

>>1564933
>slavic culture
so.... pretty similar languages?
anything else?

>>1564813
no, culture is a spook

>>1565585
It is

With some shamanism hidden underneath

>>1565667
So culture is purely based on ideology and not on history, religion and/or nationality?

>>1565196
It's 27% Hindu and 7% Islamic.

>>1565585
They are Tibetan buddhists. Stalin tried the purge of Buddhist in mongolia, but now without Stalin, the state is gaining more and more buddhists once more.

Let me break it down for you

>East Asia (China proper, Japan, Vietnam, Korea)
>Inner Asia (Siberia, Manchuria, Tibet, Eurasian steppe)
>Greater India (Indian subcontinent, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Burma, Laos, Thailand, formerly insular southeast asia)
>Greater Middle-East
>Western world
>Sub-Saharan Africa

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>>1564907
Japan is native Shinto first and all those other things second.

And I would argue that Japanese language and culture is sufficiently divergent to be classified as it's own cultural system.

Japanese people are also totally different in every day life than Sinitic peoples. They are more liberal and individualistic by a huge margin when compared with most people in China.

And on top of all this South Korea should be part of the Japanese cultural influence rather than Sinitic. South Korea (though they would never admit it) is closer culturally to Japan than China by basically every measure.

t. Anon who has spent lots of time in East Asia

>>1565938
Nippon special desu
t. weeaboo

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>>1565953
>Asians arr rook same!
t. Never been outside home country

>>1565938
Weeb confirmed

I bet you don't consider Britain european either

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>>1565966
>UK
>European
Nice try Yuropoor

>>1565966
Britain is enough European. British people and European people conquered each other repeatedly and the culture is totally mixed.

While Japan and China never had war until 20th century. Japan did imported many cultural things from China but was never subject to China. And China had little cultural effect from Japan. Their mentality is totally different.

>>1566018
>And China had little cultural effect from Japan
It's time to stop posting

>>1566018
>Japan/China never had war before 20th century
kek

>>1565010
Coptic is a dead language. No one fucking speaks it in Egypt

>>1565408
Nah they secured dominance for quite some time. They basically own/control every organization of note in regards to influence and the global system has them as the keystone.

Spain, United Kingdom, United States of America and Japan our former overlords. Really fucked us hard.

>>1564839
protestant + catholic = western

>>1566070
Western = Christian + Greco-Roman cultural legacy

AKA european

>>1564813
if it's about civilizations, the entire map should be blue except wherever hunter tribes that doesn't want to be part of the global (western) civilization or isn't aware of it, but if it's about culture then this is bretty good

>>1565938
>>1566018
I see you've barely passed East Asian History 101 but maybe you should study a bit more before you speak so authoritatively about shit you clearly know nothing about.

>>1565125

No, we are talking about civilized latin europe, and barbarians.

>>1564813
>le religion=civilization meme

Turks from Turkmenistan are far more different from Kenya muslims than Algierians from Europeans

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>>1564813
>Western and Eastern Christians are doomed to fight each others
>Sunnites and Shiites are best friends

>>1564813
DESU by now the commonwealth countries and the UK and US should be grouped together as something different from the Europeans. They have become too different in regards to culture and traditions.