Spearmen & Crossbowman master race

>>1557230
Explain why the Genoese cuckbowmen got rekt at Crecy.

>>1557230
>that pic

YOU CAME TO THE WRONG NEIGHBORHOOD MOTHERFUCKER

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>>1557257
because Philip VI was a shit commander

also the explain how your precious English longcuckmen got rekt at Jargeau despite defending a fortified city and outnumbering the French 5 to 3

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>>1557295
The French had to resort to witchcraft. Pathetic.

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>>1557307
>witchcraft
I think you mean holy divine maiden, Anglo devil

>>1557257
They didn't have their pavises while the french lords pressed them for battle. They needed one more day to prepare and get their shields, would have made them win the battle by a landslide.

>>1557295
Philip VI was a good commander though.
The problem came from his french lords and knights, who were all dumb, arrogant cunts (They were frenchmen afterall), hungering for honorful battle, and charged like idiots, full-frontal, after bashing the head of their own retreating crossbowmen.

>he doesn't start with spear and when shit gets real, close quarters and chaotic switches to sword and board
OP
kill yourself my man

also rapiers
also thrusting>all

>>1557230
Rhodok spearmen suck, OP, and you might as well go 100% crossbowmen.

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>>1557345
>Rhodok

>>1557230

DELETE THIS

>>1557345
Rhodox Sharpshooters + Nordic Huscarls + Swadian Knights = victory

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>>1557758
>multiculturalism

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>>1557230
DELET THIS NOW

>>1557345
in MP Rhodok pikes are a god-sent in otherwise cavalry-ruled servers.

what book is this pic related from?

>>1557230
You're supposed to carry both to dumb nog.

>>1558003
Osprey Publishing, Italian Armies 1000-1300 I believe
they have shitload of great books about historical armies and warfare in general, check it out

>>1557230
Yessss. Becuase clearly the Longbows are just weak as fuck when they pierce any armour.

>>1558067
>longbows in Italy
You're kidding, right? Those boys were 5'7" at most, their "longbows" would do shit. Even a fucking mongol recurve bow would hit harder.

>>1558044
thanks!

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>>1557230
how can bow fags even compete?

>>1557230
Why are they bullying him?

>>1558067
>when they pierce any armour
This is what bowfags actually believe

>>1557274
>venetians outside their containment valley
Not even once

>>1561599
No one likes Venice and their Republican ideology.

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>>1557230
>crossbows
>take forever to reload
>not maneuverable
>at all
>palisades to protect their pussy-o's

Longbows could have 2 lots of arrows in the air at a time. Fuck Crossbows.

Spears are gud.

Bows are always, always, always better than crossbows.

>>1557888
>not uniting Calradia under your banner

>>1557758
>not using Sarranid Mamlukes for better mobility and increased likelihood of getting prisoners after battle

>>1564286
Crossbows have no upper limit on their draw weight

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>>1564320
>>1557942
>>1557888
>>1557758
>>1557657
>>1557345
you're all homos
a close-formation Nord shield wall is literally unbreakable

i will drink from your skulls

>>1564286
>Not Maneuverable.
Lets see you fire from an arrow slit, Longcuck.

Miyamoto Musashi said that weapons are tools with different uses, there are no perfect weapons.

You can tell all the arguing plebs are not real medieval warriors.

>>1565761
>a literal who said a bloo abloo

>>1565871
>literal who
>the man whose katana technique was so superb he literally cut the japanese islands off the mainland essentially creating the Land of the Rising Sun
Lel

>>1565751
>Fire
*Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

>there are people, in this thread, who believe that life is like a videogame and you can only have one type of weapon or """"unit""""
>there are people, in this thread, who doesn't understand that different weapons are used for different situations, that most armies had access to both bows and crossbows, that knights carried both polearms and swords and maces, that you can train and place different sort of militias or men or mercenary companies depending of your needs
>there are people who don't understand that most of theses weapons are complementary and made for different situations

/v/historians pls go.

>>1564286
>Bows are always, always, always better than crossbows.
Unless you're skirmishing, attacking fortifications, defending fortifications, or engaging in a prolonged exchang eof shots in a pitched battle, sure.


They're literally only better for bird hunting, faggot.

>>1565728
Lmfao your spergy army is going to chase me around on my horse while my 200 arballesters shoot at you

>>1564286
bows require learning how to use a bow from early age. crossbows take comparatively little training and are just as useful at firing a projectile over long ranges and killing dudes. they weren't banned because they were shit

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>ITT bowplebs

>>1557345
MOUNT AND BLADE THREAD?

>>1564320
>not horseniggering with Khergit Lancers

>>1557230
*Unsheathes katana and teleports behind you*

>>1570395
>khergits
>taking anything that isn't a steppe/desert
>ever ever taking a fortification

>>1570175
>Nords
>not holding position
maybe under the retarded AI

>>1570316
Bannerlord can't come soon enough

>>1570733
>hold position
>siege crossbows can pierce huscarl shields
You gonna get fucked up boi

>>1570215
You don't need to learn archery from childhood to be a competent archer. Sick of hearing this dad fact.

>>1557888
>not taking the best units of all the lands to make your army stronger than the sum of its parts

>>1565877
*unsheathes katana*
*teleports behind you*

>>1557230
CRECY
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