We discuss here the reasons of the rise of power of Prussia and why this war was a disaster for the French
Also, we discuss the consequences about the First world war
If Willy didn't get rid of Bismarck would ww1 have been avoided?
>>1540328
Do you even have to ask?
>>1540496
Well Bismarck died in 1898, so it's possible the war could have just been put off a few more years if he was still in office until then.
>>1539552
France got smacked because Prussia was able to mobilize faster and stay one step ahead of them at all times.
>>1540738
They also had better arty
>>1539552
summary
>>1541246
How so?
>>1539552
Was WW1 ultimately a good or a bad thing, as far as it turned out?
>>1541871
It lead (or indirectly lead) to the spread of Democracy throughout Europe. You can take that as you will, but I believe it to be a good thing.
WWI was a direct continuation of the Franco-Prussian War
>>1541897
You could also argue that it led to the end of empire, and all the ills of decolonization.
>>1541897
Democracy slowly spread throughout Europe even without a war.
>>1541933
It was much easier to do without german monarchycucks
>>1541948
But the Junkers got all butthurt after the monarchy fell and helped the fascists take power.
>>1541957
through democracy
>>1539552
>tfw Hohenzollern Spain will never ever happen
France deserved far worse tbqhwu
Daily reminder that you Italians owe Germany every last scrap of your independence.
>>1541903
Every conflict is a direct continuation of another one. Chain of causality and all that shit.
>>1541997
>"En España, al difundirse la noticia de que Leopoldo era candidato a la corona, se le empezó a llamar Leopoldo Olé-Olé si me eligen a causa de la difícil pronunciación de su apellido para los españoles."
>the people you were trying to govern couldn't even pronounce your name
>>1542427
>conquisto
>not 'conquistaba'
You fool, it took Napoleon multiple years to do those conquests (except for Prussia lol).
>>1542451
Both work, you autist.
>>1542422
No that's wrong.
Germany was planning to destroy France with a new war after the franco-prussian war. Several occasions were dodged by the french until 1914.
>>1540738
You can see that at the beginning, french managed to resist well to the more numerous german. French were submerged.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wissembourg_(1870)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Spicheren
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_W%C3%B6rth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gravelotte
>>1542451
>Lets have this huge showdown between the Best Army of Continental Europe vs the Grand Army to finally prove---- wait, what do you mean with they all got defeated at once?
>okay, luckily the fighting had been outside Prussia, so while Napoleon besieges these border fortresses, the prussian army can rebuild itself----- wait, all these defended fortresses and big cities just capitulated like that, wth
>well luckily there is still this one prussian army intact and with some luck-- oh well, nevermind
>Russia HELP!!!