What would have happened if the iberian people failed in the reconquest?
>Portugal and Spain would have never exist.
>It would have been a fully islamic iberian peninsula since 700.
>All America would be christian or muslim(depends on which arrive first). The same with the language.
But i really think the european nations would work together to reconquer the iberian peninsula because you cant simply have the enemy that near.
If you think about the possibilities, the world we have right now depends on a few moments in the history, this could be one of the most importants.
>>1522475
all of africa would probably be muslim right now and it would be one synthe'd unified strain.
siberia would be speaking english.
>>1522478
Well, all of Africa is muslim, or at least the most of it.
Maybe the country that retook iberia would not have stopped there and tried to expand their influence to north africa to take full control of the mediterranean sea.
>>1522475
>>1522494
>Well, all of Africa is muslim,
not before it got drained of all resources, control, & genetics by european powers tucked safely behind a line of deus-mother-fucking-volt.
dutch voc gold coast etc
iberian treaties of tort & sassa
triangle trade through american raw res, african slaves, & european goods (going to africa, made from merka')
same fight diff continent another thousand years later at the mexican border between muslim socialists & yankee capitalists
whites eventually develope nuke and make africa a nuclear dust bowel.megaton
celestial dictatorship/earths destroyed by 2300
>Muslim Iberia does not needs to discovers any new routes.
>Instead, French or some Italian state delegate do.
>All America is still christiand but speaks French.
>Iberia is actually a Morocco 2.0.
As a spaniard, thanks god catholicism is the faith of this country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na-zs7vNz24
>>1522561
also the berbers fractured the state earlier likewise like the moroccan guy said but i thought he meant carthage from kush - region was placated as fuck. papal was the only option in the world that could stabalise control and essentially with it created europa.
verdun allowed for the christianisation of anglo saxonism and the eternal kingdom was born.
>>1522475
>sth of venice shit
Muslim Spain wouldn't need a reason to go to the new world, it can trade with India and China through the other muslim countries
>>1522475
>european nations would work together to reconquer the iberian peninsula
They failed to retake the balkans from the Ottomans. Though I doubt an equivalent western Islamic empire would have been as powerful given the fewer resources in Greater Maghreb. After the medieval agricultural revolution their eventual fate was sealed.
In this alternate history I imagine 12th century Tangier merchants develop superior naval technology and dominate trade through the gates of Hercules. This gives Andalusia and Morrocco a new breath of life. The European Iberian kingdoms then have a civil war allowing some opportunist warlord to push the Northern Kingdoms back and take territory in Southern Portugal, a crushing blow that allows Andalusia to make it to the 16th century. Some Muslim dynasty entrenches itself and invests in further expeditions, possibly to the new world then pushes to the Pyrennes some time in the 16th century, taking advantage of the chaos in Europe duee to the reformation. Other European nations eventually compete in these colonial enterprises, but not Spain. Andalusia would likely tolerate the large christian community to deter rebellion and a French invasion.
Andalusia declines in the 17th century as Spain did and eventually northern regions gain independence, if not in the 17th then in the 18th during the enlightenment. Southern Spain and Portugal would still be mostly Muslim today, the Muslim role in the renaissance and age of sail and muslim colonies would probably change Islam's character.
>>1523967
>Muslims
>Trading between them
That was a thing when the global caliphate was on, but just like two generations after muhamed they were already on civil war. Also remember that Iberia had the Umayyad exiles
>>1522475
>be west-goth
>comfy fucking iberian-roman tight wenches
>7th century
>hordes and hordes of camel riding barbarians come to south
>they conquer everything and yell ALOHA SNACKBAR
>they "convert" ppl by force or behead
>retreat with pals to the hills in the north
>fight bravely for one century or two
>end as a boipucci eunuch fucknugget
After the defeat of the kingdoms of Leon and Castille, they would probably be forced to convert just like they did to ppl that where left on the south extending the Andaluz culture far north. Also it would disable the peregrination to Santiago de Compostela
Basques would probably make a staunche resistance as they always have done, but they could be finally genocided or allowed to exist as dhimmis
Iberian Caliphate would be in a state of almost constant war and raids intro France. France/HRE would get a much more crusader like culture since their politics would be reduced to remove kebab.
If france is left too weakened by the raids, the caliphate could annex the Occitan area just as they did very briefly and the rest could be annexed on a much more military oriented HRE which woul not allow princely states and could be actually and finally really stop being a meme estate.
There would be no crusades since the danger is much more closer to home for the pope and they would just make a christian duty to genocide muslims. There could be even an Abbasid-Christian alliance to remove Ummayads
If the reconquista is finally done, it would be done by HRE ppl and spain recolonized by the germano-romance speaking West Romans and the iberian peninsula would be divided on a serie of historical and geographical duchys and counties