Why were vikings so fucking shit?
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>>1519908
>>1519918
>Did you know that raiders were not soldiers
WHAT NO WHEN
>>1519921
>VIDF swoops in to the rescue the snow dindus
>>1519944
Don't you ever fucking reply to me again unless it's to seriously contribute to the Western canon
>>1519965
>>1519921
Then maybe stop shilling raiders as warriors?
>>1519903
no discipline, no innovation in tactics, no horses, bad morale and a fragmented command structure
If vikings were shit why did they conquer England, Normandy, and Russia? Why did the Byzantine Empire use them as elite soldiers?
>>1519981
>conquer England
No.
>>1519984
The vikings conquered England twice in the 11th century, and conquered every kingdom except Wessex in the 9th.
>>1519981
>Normandy
you're fucking retarded the Franks GAVE THEM Normandy so they would serve as buffer zone from other vikings also
>Russia
yeah name some battles involving vikings that took place in Russia
>>1519989
No. The Normans were not Vikings and Alfred retook the lands held by Guthrum. Holding territory while conflict is ongoing is not conquest.
The only part of England that could be said to be conquered by Vikings was the Danelaw.
>vikings come to the british islands
>manage to conquer virtually uninhabited Hebrides
>found a few settlements in Ireland
>in hundreds of years never get establish proper realms there
And they were up against the Irish lol
On the other hand
>those few settlements, Dublin, Waterford, Wexford, Cork, Limerick, were literally the only noteworthy settlements in all of Ireland
>continued to be the centers of commerce and wealth since their founding
They were pretty good traders though
>>1519993
>you're fucking retarded the Franks GAVE THEM Normandy so they would serve as buffer zone from other vikings also
Except they'd been occupying Normandy for decades before the treay was signed, and the Franks barely managed to stop them from conquering Paris.
>>1519995
It would be three times if I was counting the Normans.
>Alfred retook the lands held by Guthrum
No, Guthrum got to keep everything he conquered. Alfred really only succeeded in keeping his own kingdom safe, although his descendants would become overlords of the Anglo-Danes.
>>1520035
After defeating him, Alfred was LITERALLY Guthrum's godfather so any lands Guthrum got to "keep" would be subject to Alfred's control.