What is your political orientation/ideology and what are the

>>1508144
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Marxism-DeLeonism

>Capitalism sucks
>General strike is the best way of achieving revolution
>A minimal state providing essential services alongside an economy organized by the trade unions is the best way to transition from socialism to communism

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>>1508144
Wellsian international voluntarist utopianism, with an extra side of the telecommunications converging into a world brain. It's clearly what's been happening for the last century, and the sooner we acknowledge it and start doing it on purpose, the better.

practically libertarian,

>>1508144
hssss no step snek

muh guns

>>1508167
His vision of a perfect society was a mix between technocracy and Fabian socialism, correct?

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Classical liberal/consequentialist libertarian

It's ultimately the result of a lot of thinking, reading, and observation. Put simply, I don't buy into memes about the collapse of the West due to homosexuals or into memes about the alleged abhorrence of capitalism because these have no serious evidence to back them up.

The things that made/makes the West great are capitalism, science, free speech, democracy, and liberalism. And I want to promote those things.

Democrat. Free will doesn't exist, therefore the progression towards our current system of government was an inevitability. It must be either be the most efficient form of government we can create presently or it's simply what our species necessitates. Regardless, it's not worth wasting time caring about what you can't change.

>>1508181
Something like that. A lot of it is dated but cut out the really clunky parts and toss in some computers and the vision still works.

>>1508213
Are you pro or anti trade union?

Fiscal conservative - Ideally
In reality, I am just a blunt conservative who aims for a reduction on government intervention in the private sector.

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anarkist

>>1508234
I'm not against the existence of trade unions, but nobody should be forced to join a union because they do not always help workers.

And obviously public teacher's unions here in the US are absolute cancer, but that would become a non-issue if we were to have a voucher system instead of government schooling.

>>1508144
Socially liberal/fiscally conservative libertarian individualist master race reporting in.

>>1508144
Fascism
>Out of control capitalism has failed us
>Society has lost it's standards and morals
>A country needs a strong and authoritarive leader
>Communism poses a threat to all people
>A love for my people
>Appreciation for my ancestors
>Fascism itself is horribly mislabeled in academia

Come at me tankies

Social democracy

It's boring, but it works.

>>1508144
I work to extend freedom in the truest sense (in all forms without interference) so I suppose it's my ideology. I am also collecting every scrap of good knowledge I can find to put in an Archive, to act as a stop gap when our civilization inevitably declines. It's called "That Knowledge which is Essential for Human Civilization without Electrical Power Generation"

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>>1508271
>tfw liberals and alt-righters have taken tankie from us lefties and are using it to describe ALL socialists

>>1508144
I'm a Datassist, and my faith demands sauce, but, I am well capable of finding it on my own. In the name of my faith I thank thee, OP.

>>1508144
My own, because all the others were unsatisfying.

>>1508217
>free will doesn't exist
>not worth wasting time
IMPLYING YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER.

Enlightened dictatorship that makes no laws about the economy or the market except to enforce competition and reduce kickbacks

All education is state-sponsored and teaches children in a way that encourages independence and respect for tradition. Universities only select students that achieve the highest 10% of test scores and gives tax breaks to private companies who hire them.

Flat income tax rate of 10%

Almost all tax dollars go towards the military, law enforcement, and the administration of the small bureaucracy surrounding the dictator

The dictator is the person who achieved the highest score at the end of their university program and the administration is made up of the next 99 highest scores.

>>1508273
Mein neger.

>>1508271
>I love only my people
>these other guys are a threat to everyone though
Nigger you're the one who's a threat to everyone else.

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>>1508296
>The dictator is the person who achieved the highest score at the end of their university program and the administration is made up of the next 99 highest scores.

>>1508296

Addendum: almost all tax dollars go towards the military, law enforcement, the schools and universities, and the administration of the small bureaucracy surrounding the dictator

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>>1508296
Does the dictator also have to prove his skills with thy blade?

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>>1508144
Libertarian Market Socialism(Or basically mutalism)

Because I believe in a more free world where society and the community decides what's right or wrong rather by the state. I believe that many or even all businesses should become workers cooperatives since it will be more beneficial for the working man and the workplace should be run with democratically by the workers........ and I believe in markets too I guess.

>>1508273
Man, even North Korea works. Living in a cave without knowing how to make fire worked. Dogs and caterpillars work. "X works" doesn't say shit other than that it's not dead and gone yet.

>>1508329
Social Democracy is what allowed Scandanavia to achieve an extremely high standard of living

inb4 immigrant rape memes.

>>1508296
Enjoy having some limp-wristed autist as your dictator

Anti-modern

A little bit of aristocracy
A little bit of timeocracy

Mass politics is a cancer on what is noble and strong.

The modern mass man is a whore who thinks that his image is all that matters and has no substance to anything he says.

He might be tall, good looking, have a deep voice, etc. but all of this doesn't really matter if he becomes a concubine towards the modern institution, who is the only alpha male entity allowed.

I am against the singular alpha who is not flesh and blood, god and the state represent abstractions of the alpha male who cannot be killed honestly in battle.

It's only those who are shallow in body and mind that embrace such abstractions in an attempt for survival through the r-type strategy, quantity over quality.

>>1508337
>Scandinavia
>not welfare capitalism

Conservative. I believe in the free market and limited government programs that would be unsuitable for the private market. But I also think that a nation should have a powerful military. I think that using laws to enforce morality, such as drug laws, are ineffective and cause social unrest. Laws should generally only protect private property.

>>1508337
Staying out of world wars and profiting off the rebuilding sure helped a lot, too.

>>1508361
That's what social democracy is. If you have a different conception of what social democracy is please explain.

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>>1508295
WHOA

>>1508337
Standard of living doesn't mean much when the spirit of your people is dead.

Only a modern capitalistic mass man thinks only in terms of material well being, never spiritual.

A full belly means nothing with a an empty head.

>>1508337
Social Democracy from what I can tell generally only works when the nation is small, developed, and culturally homogeneous. Once you have nations like the US that are these large, eclectic entities, social democracy devolves into one culture group giving themselves an advantage over the others, causing a lot of social tension

Social democracy leads to decline, stop supporting such a shallow ideal.

>>1508273
Sadly didn't work for the Weimar Republic

>>1508369
When I hear social democracy I think socialism + democracy. Nowadays, I know it's de facto definition is basically what Bernie Sanders wants for the US. I'm not really sure why this is the case. Maybe it's the last attempt to save socialism from the dustbin of history by redefining it as interventionist/welfare capitalism. But of course the classical definition of socialism is totally incompatible with capitalism.

>>1508337
Not only Scandinavia. I can't think of a single country that adopted social democratic policies and failed. It's like the opposite of communism. Even in continents like South America and South Asia, the countries that adopt more social democratic policies, such as Uruguay and Sri Lanka, are more successful than the ones that do not.

>>1508383
>he relies on government to provide spiritual meaning

kek

>>1508404
>government isn't itself a manifestation of that spirit

Fuck off with the smug greentext, it only makes you look more like a modern moron.

Why do moderns have to be so fucking smug and cynical about every little fucking thing, as if anything with substance that contradicts their shallow ideals was so bad anyways.

Perhaps they know deep down that without the modern state they themselves would not exist or survive.

>>1508383
>literally feels>reals

>>1508401
Social Democracy started referring specifically to reformist socialists who felt a welfare state was the first step to building socialism. Then when the 70s rolled around it was used exclusively to refer to welfare capitalists.

>>1508402
Well it depends on the country. Venezuela's "Socialism of the 21st century" is really just social democracy dressed up with socialist populism and it's doing horribly thanks to incompetent leadership.

>>1508402
Can't just go around ascribing success to things based on their ideals when there're the matters of the hugely important economical and realpolitikal circumstances they exist alongside with. I mean look at the East India Trading Company, rampant nepotism, very little concern for competence, yet motherfuckers were making bank (for awhile, when they weren't dying from disease).

>>1508421
>he relies on the fucking government for moral values or spirituality

Why don't you go a slaughterhouse or a sewer or something while you're at it.

We need those too.

>>1508421
>spiritual meaning
>substance
What the fuck is this retarded "moderns" thing about anyway?

>>1508439
He thinks its the 1920s and he's Volkisch

He isn't.

>>1508423
Hey smug modern, has the thought ever occured to you that maybe it's not just a false ditchotomy between your "realism" and spirituality?

Pure realism makes life boring and leads to stagnation through the feminizing of males (which is why they probably act like such smug women).
Emotion is what allows men to express themselves through violence and keeps them strong and aware of what is important, balance.

Material well being might be the base of our existence but unless you are a female, a man would not be satisfied with just that, he needs meaning in his life which comes from the ground up (flesh and blood) not the top down (abtraction).

>>1508442
Another smug cynical reply from a woman.

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>>1508421
Lol someone got triggered. Do you live off of a government paycheck or something?

>>1508458
A typical modern response, dismissal with no substance.

>>1508464
It's a spiritual dismissal.

>>1508459
>Lol I'm such a moder idiot, let me pwn you with my smug reply, umad bro?

>I really made a difference pwning this guy with my insults through the internet

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>>1508451
>>1508457
*unsheathes katana* the FUCK did you just call me?!?!?!?!?!?!

>>1508474
>pwning
Hey >>1508442
he doesn't think he's from the 20's, he thinks he's from the 00's.

>>1508478
Such a smug reply, give me another one I haven't heard before.

The irony of this meme is that, you represent it more than I do, you are the one who wields the katana of words behind the anonymity of the internet, those words would have gotten you beaten half to death but today, you can teleport all around be slashing and declaring shallow victories.

>>1508513
Alright, now you're just trolling, you funny bastard.

Transhumanism. The time to become something more is almost upon us. The singularity is coming.

>>1508519
The truth has been reduced to being called "trolling", (((god))) forbid anyone stands for any kind of substance in the shallow world of modernity.

>>1508233
Cool.

Nihilism hurr durr

>>1508144
Literally a /pol/ tread, fuck off.

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Fascism. But I also have read much of the original Fascist writings from the 20s and 30s. Right now I'm trying to find as many of their writings as possible and hope to eventually translate them into English.

anarcho-monarchism

>>1508651
Literally what

>>1508144
National Conservatism, a bit more economically to the left though,

>>1508296
This sounds like an anime plot rather than a coherent political system.

>>1508144
I liked to live in a world that embraced an autocratic meritocracy.

>>1508695
Probably a Tolkien fan.

>>1508144
Liberalism and nationalism.
I care about my nation and my people and I wish that freedom and equality be given to them

eh, classical liberal. i dont care about SJWism and alt right shit. i realize that sometimes economics and politics arent concrete sciences. free market with government regulation

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>>1508144
libertarian socialist: the state should enforce a minimum standard of living subject to the constraint that individual liberty ought to be maximized. Corporations are not individuals, and should be strictly regulated.

>>1508893
Thats not libertarian socialism. But you should look into the Bleeding Heart Libertarians blog. They seem right up your alley.

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D'Annunzian proto-fascism mixed with a bit of national-syndicalism and 1910s futurist politics.

We have to view the Nation as a dynamic body made from the State, the people and the institutions. They would all work towards the growth and prosperity of the Nation, in both the concrete and abstract sense..

>>1508144
Executive monarchy because I can't stand giving the plebs the right to vote, but I have to at least give them the illusion or they'll get uppity.

>>1508893
Property is a spook. It makes no sense to revere property above all other spooks like libertarians do.

>>1508144
Probably close to Mutualist/philosophical anarchist. I don't believe in any "we musts" or "we have tos". I believe the state is essentially a dangerous institution in any context, and that it only seeks more power and domination. The state follows laws that we enact in order to feign legitimacy, and its interests only intersect with yours when it is beneficial.

At the same time, creating a movement in order to get rid of the state is essentially just giving in to the same psychological impulses and absurdities that allow the state to exist. The destruction of the state will ultimately come about once people on a large scale begin to deny its authority. So that's what I do.

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Orthodox Marxism.

Fascists are dumb.

Is there a term for complete political pragmatism? I think most every social and political issue is temporary, and that cultural ethics change over time - so to me any real political ideal is a dogma best disposed of as soon as situation dictates.

I can't describe this as a nihilism or apoloticism, because I really do believe that TEMPORARY hard social positions can lessen human suffering - but what do you call yourself if you believe that neoliberalism is great for now, but definitely has a shelf life and should be reexamined every day to see if it's outlived its usefulness?

>>1508303
both must be true

>>1508337
that would be capitalism

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>>1508451


>this fucking guy

Classical liberal I guess. I'm pretty centralist and like western civilization.

>>1509143

Pretty sure countries with "free-er" markets and less social safety nets have worse standards of life.

I want Israel to have a freer market.

That's it

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>>1509123
>Petain
>Fascist

>French resistance
>Actually doing something of note

>Tojo
>Fascist

Lol. Also the red army suffered millions of more casualties then the Germans on both fronts.

>>1509165

Fascist is pretty much authoritarianism capitalism, to be reductive.

Also, the Red Army also won the war, key difference.

>>1509204

Fuck, so many typos. I need to get some sleep.

>>1509204
It was a pyrrhic victory at best.

>>1509165
>Muh K:D

That's loser talk anon

>>1509214
>Suffer millions of more casualties
>It don't matter

Huh. It's almost as if the Russian soldiers were inferior and had to make up for this in sheer numbers or was it just bad luck and Nazi super weapons that added the extra million casualties.

>>1509209
>defeat germany, become one of two superpowers for a couple of decades
>PYRRHIC VICTORY GUISE

>>1509231
>A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit.

Sovietbros need to leave this board. The Soviet Union lost 13% of its entire population from the war.

>>1509231

And got half of the defeated country to boot.

And Nazis still cry about it to this day.

>>1509240

Soviet Union recovered in a little more than a decade.

>>1509248
>Build the anti-Fascist protective in Berlin, the former capital of the 3rd reich
>Have it get torn down by German nationals a few decades later

Didnt pay off for the Soviet Union in the long run.

>>1508296
>measuring anything with test scores, let alone who will rule the country
t. Asian dad

>>1508213
>>1508260
My nigga

>>1508144
Social Justice Warrior.

When I was a young awkward child I learned to use humour to disarm people and make them friendly towards me.

This did not, however, stop them from being dicks towards other people with whom I had commiserated in our shitsuation.

It felt like a betrayal of them to just bro out with people being dicks to them cause they weren't being dicks to me, and I have basically followed that to its logical conclusion.

>>1508144
>reasons for you choosing it
People don't "choose" what they believe, they just discover and may own up to it.

Or pick a quirky/edgy label to make up for a lack of personality.

>>1509833
>I learned to use humour to disarm people
give an example of what you'd say

Alt-rightist because Trump is a fucking alpha who makes all the faggot nu-male cucks cry like little bitches :DDDDDD

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>>1508349
Wew lad

>>1508349
Haven't seen this one before. Nice. Saved.

>>1509858
Not being offended, making a joke, once I was kind of bumping into people's space and was sucking a lolipop (was all the way in high school) and someone was like "aw you like to suck don't you" and I was like

"Yeah especially the black ones." They thought the shit was cash.

Another time I was in the back of the class doing make up stuff while older kids talked shit (teacher was outside scolding obvious cheater), someone yelled "SUCK A DICK" at another guy and things got quiet and I wanted to stick up for him so I said "but don't do it for free" and the whole room laughed as it was totally unexpected and they hadn't heard me speak\I have a deep-ass voice and made it even deeper for the delivery.

The lines themselves aren't important, it's re-directing the flow of the convo.

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My political ideology is whatever the popular opinion wills it to be. Not sure if that makes me somewhat democratic but that's it.

I believe in flowing with the river of popular ideologies instead of going against it.

>>1508144
>political orientation/ideology
Do no harm.

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The state is cancer. The economy is cancer. The institutions are all cancer. Everything has come to a point of rapid dehumanization.

The answer to all is the internet, and its lack of meaning and purpose. Anarchy with actual resources is possible, commune is possible. Love is possible. All one has to do in the future is theft of the wealthiest to spread to the many. The internet has made the board of collectivism easier.

>>1510027
What happens if the internet goes away?

>>1510030
It won't. If it ceases to exist, the precious economy the bourgeois thrive off of us will be crippled. Making other forms of collectivism again, easier. Albeit it would be harder in other ways, easier in others.

>>1510045
Well it could go back to the way it was before the internet. Like you know, the 70s? I think capitalism worked pretty well then as well

>>1510061
>Well it could go back to the way it was before the internet.

No it couldn't, not with the advent of the internet.

>>1510064
INTERNET IS LOVE, INTERNET IS LIFE

>>1510071
I mean to say the global economy as it is today would be crippled in a way that it could not magically "go back to 1970". If you cannot argue coherently please go back to, /pol/, or whatever hell hole you arrived from.

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>>1509877
Kek

>>1510073
Mate I dont frequent that place. I just think you put too much value into the internet by the fact that you use it to communicate. You are biased. I think the global economy may shudder hard with a destruction of the internet, but it can always go back to old market tech easily enough.

>>1508144
Marxian state socialist.

Capitalism is unsustainable and inherently unethical, but full communism or anarchy could too easily devolve into feudalism.

Both the United States and Soviet Union had honest visions of a free society, and both could have learned from the other.

Fully automated cybercommunism.

All human willpower must be ceded to an AI network to redistribute wealth in a short span. This way, there is no room for greed or error.

These AI would oversee the creation of self-replicating labor machines, formed into their own unions and governed by themselves.

After full communism has been achieved, the AI recedes and allows humanity to enjoy scarcity-free, work-free individualist paradise where every man or woman is a king, and all the world their kingdom.

Only free from human obligation can we escape the human condition and enjoy transcendental luxury.

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>>1510123
>>1510027
>>1508523
>>1508167