Himmler-Goebbels relationship

Himmler was the S and Goebbels was the M, so so I'm guessing. The only thing known is that they were homosexual sex partners.

>>1505487
They were very gay and enjoyed having sex in masive homo group sex orgies.

Who would win a Nazi civil war between Himmler/Heydrich vs Goebbels/Goering?

>>1506119
Rommel

my understanding is Hitler played all of them off against eachother to fight for his favour. They all distrusted and disliked eachother.

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>>1505487
Goebbels mistrusted Himmler because of his Japanese heritage.

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>>1507116
>>1506119
>>1505529
>>1505519
/his/ was a mistake

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>>1507126
This.

There were a couple of circles in the "in" crowd close to Hitler.
Goering
Himmler
Bormann

I'm sure someone could elaborate on these groups plus some of the smaller ones, but it basically came down to those 3.
Everyone else kind of fell into one of those groups. Goebbels fell into the Goering crowd. Most high ranking Nazis prefered Goering.
Bormann had the ear of the Fuehrer but no one liked him because he controlled access to the Fuehrer. If Hitler were to die, no doubt Bormann would have found himself at the least without a job, or just a minor job where they could control him since very few people would have backed him. The main two contenders would have been Himmler and Goering, and I imagine Goering would have been the successor.
He was after all the official number 2 man, and successor to Hitler. While Goering was seen as flamboyant with all his medals and uniforms, to many higher ups, Himmler seemed a little crazy with all his interest in the occult and ancient Aryans, going around Tibet chasing pottery with swastikas on them.

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>>1507237
>Never fought in the army
>Still wore a Stalhelm

Oh Himmler...

>>1506119
>Himmler/Heydrich
>Heydrich wouldn't just stab Himmler on the back
Peiper was Himmler's best boy

>>1507272
There's that too. Goering was an honest to goodness war hero, and could at least maintain the respect of the army.

Who Himmler actively antagonized.

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>>1505487

No one liked Himmler. It got so bad that Goebbels and Goering put aside their differences and recruited Speer in an attempt to block Himmler, who according to Speer, Himmler had attempted to have him killed under medical circumstances (He got really ill and Himmler offered him his doctors, which Speer declined)

That Alliance quickly fell apart because of Goering, But Speer and Goebbels remained together because Goebbels was not blind to the war industry and the need to go all out.

Meanwhile, Himmler was having his own troubles. You see back in the day, Heydrich stole a young Adolf Eichmann from out of Ernst Kaltenbrunner's wing.

Kaltenbrunner didn't like this one bit, but he bided his time and played an act of a dumb alcoholic. This gave the impression to Himmler that he was easily controllable, so when Heydrich went for his open top Mercedes tour of death,, Himmler placed Kaltenbrunner in Heydrich's place as head of the RSHA, very unaware that Kaltenbrunner had been organizing all the SS officials left out of the Heydrician circle. Kaltenbrunner then proceeded to form an alliance with Martin Bormann and brought in Otto Skorzeny as his muscle, whose exploits earned him the idolization of the Fuhrer.

The moment Kaltenbrunner became head of the RSHA, it was all over for Himmler. Himmler was reduced to a figurehead and was more terrified of Kaltenbrunner then he was of betraying Hitler.

Anyone going to remember the Goebbles/Strasser feud? Goebbles idolized Gregor and Otto Strasser till the Bamberg Conference and then hated Gregor vehemently afterwards?

>>1508293

Goebbels was really into to the socialist side of National Socialism like the Strasser brothers, he even wrote several pieces denouncing Hitler during Hitler's absence. When Hitler returned and cornered Goebbels, that set him on a course more aligned to Hitler then the Strasser Brothers.

>>1508314
Yes I have read of this in my copy of "The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich" I just never has seen someone on /his/ mention this feud

>>1508371

It's pretty insignificant compared to when they rise to real power. Not a lot are going to know, or even care, which is sad to see /his/ stick to the bullet points of the nazi era.

>>1507272

Himmler was the saddest of the inner circle. A tedious little accountant of a man who dreamed of military glory but fucked it all up when he was given the chance. Spent his last few weeks desperately trying to someone, anyone at all, to take him seriously as the voice of the Reich.

A nonentity who managed to grab a surprising amount of power before things imploded.

>nazi high command were just a bunch of teenage girls with petty feuds
Wonder why they lost.

>>1508687

More than that, many of them were near textbook cases of Dunning-Kruger. Hitler was famous for his contempt of people who actually understood things.

>>1508714
Literally a Zimbabwe tier regime.

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>>1507166
No one fucks with Samurai Himmler.

>>1508687

You should read up on the feuds within Allied High Command. Seems everyone hated Montgomery and De Gaulle and it's hilarious.