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Where the Goths Swedish?

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>>1482497

I don't know OP. Where?
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no. they were geats. swedes annexed their scandinavian cousins like thousand years later.
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>>1482551
This

Swedish wasn't a thing when the goths were around

Swedes and Geats were just tribes that inhabited what would be Sweden today
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>>1482497
The came from Götaland which is in southern Sweden
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>TFW geatish masterrace
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>>1482779
>Master race
>Treated like dalit by french and spanish


(pic related)
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Gothic for mother=Aethi
Finnish for mother=Äiti

Really, really makes you stop and ponder for a while about the mysteries of ancient history
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they were germanic speaking proto-slavs, sarmatians, dacians and greeks
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>>1482884

"no"

>>1482871


They were Finnish language shifters
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>>1482871
Weell I mean, wasn't the scandinavia in its entirety finnic speaking at one point in time?
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>>1482919

Only Svealand/Stockholm region and Gotland where the Gutiska hailed from

>inb4 massive amounts of Swedish butthurt
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It's kinda funny how the proto-germanic word for king "kuningaz" has remained as "kuningas" in Finnish as a loan word, but the swedish/danish/norwegian/icelandic are all derived from the old norse "konungr"
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>>1482955
it's not that weird. finnish is really archaic language in every means, it's basically same today than it was thousand years ago.
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>>1482965
But they weren't speaking germanic like that anymore thousand years ago

So these would be words from like over 1500 years ago
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>>1482993
The first Germanic loanwords appeared in the Finnish language at the same time as Baltic loanwords, so around 2000BC-1000BC. There's ~500 of them in the modern Finnish language.
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>>1483032

Germanics didn't quite exist before 1000 BC
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>>1482993
so? it's a loanword for completely unrelated language so there is no reason for it to go through same changes than it did in germanic languages.
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>>1483048
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Germanic_language

Germanic loanwords in this context refers to whatever predecessor of Germanic languages existed during the time. These started appearing frequently between 1500BC-1000BC but some are as old as 2000BC.

Example words:

raippa = whip
ranta = beach
rikas = rich
rinta = breast
hallita = control
airo = paddle
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>>1482955
Lol white people stealing our history.
The word is kuniggas. The Kunigga was the title of the african king of Scandinavia
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>>1483185

I believe you mean kang-nigguh?
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How big was the vandal population in Tunisia?
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>>1483288

>The Vandals under Genseric (also known as Geiseric) crossed to Africa in 429.[41] Although numbers are unknown and some historians debate the validity of estimates, based on Procopius' assertion that the Vandals and Alans numbered 80,000 when they moved to North Africa,[42] Peter Heather estimates that they could have fielded an army of around 15,000–20,000.[43]
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>>1482861
success breed jealousy
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>>1483185
>finns
>white
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It's another Finnish "people" trying to be historicaly relevant episode
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>>1483437

>"Finns existed in a parellel universe before Swedes came goys, ignore the fact that Gothic and Finnish share a large number of important words"
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>>1483495
yeah like one word that also sound wery similar to the germanic equivalent of the word.
pick related is how Finns lived before you were civilized by Swedes
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>>1483565
Ebin
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>>1483437
No one is trying to pretend Finnics were historically relevant. But revisionist bullshit such as "people" and >>1483565 is /pol/ tier retardation.

The only thing Swedes brought to Finland was enforced Christianity. You're a historically illiterate retard.
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>>1483710
it's not revisionism. Samis are related to Finns
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Goths were a germanic tribe. It's as simple as that
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>>1484595
>east goths west of west goths
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They were East Germanic, not North, so they're surely not
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there is not a country on earth as insecure or with such an unwarranted degree of pride as finland
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>>1484626

They ended up the other way round. Also it's not clear that Visi- is from west, it could mean "wise".
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>>1486193
Visigoth was a byzantine neoglism created to counter the Goths who had been known as the Ostrogoths, so it clearly means western.

The Visigoths didn't call themselves that, they had their own tribe names.
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>>1484543

And Swedes are related to African-Americans, what is your point?
It's still revisionism since Finns were never on the tech level of the Saami
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>>1486794
>It's still revisionism since Finns were never on the tech level of the Saami
so Finns just showed up from nowhere with more advanced technology than their neighbours that speaks similar languages?
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>>1486808

>similar languages

So clueless. Finnish is more similar to Mordvin which is spoken way out there in Russia.
Finns come from the sphere of influence of the highly advanced Finnic Ananyino culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananyino_culture

Svealand aka Stockholm region was also in this sphere as the infamous Mälaren axes(Google it) of the Finnic conqueror masters are found there. This isn't revisionism, this is archeological reality. You can't dispute it just by dismissing the information.
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>Celts, the group of IE peoples that had dominated most of non-Germanic Europe north of Italy, were wiped out so hard that the only significant remnant speaker population is in Ireland, where they don't even form the majority, while almost nothing but place and personal names is attested of continental Celtic languages

How is it possible to be such a historical failure?
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>Where the Goths Swedish?
The Goths/Gutaniz are a mix of East germanic, proto-baltic, dacians and later iberians.
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>>1486939
how is this relevant?
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>>1486956
and sarmatians*
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>>1486808
not from nowhere. from southern russia.
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>>1486832
>Finnish
>Conqueror
>Masters
If you were such good conquerors how come your'e people were pretty much wiped out of the scandinavian peninsuela and finland was ocupied for over 600 years.
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>>1486965
We started conquering for the Swedes
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>>1486965

Look at what's left of the Mongol Empire. The truly great ones like the Finns of old and the Mongols of Genghis and Kublai always end up absorbing the culture of their servile subjects and lose their edge.
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>>1482497
no, if they were Europe would be Muslim by now
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