Roman invasion of Britain

>>1478583
>we shouldn't have stood a chance
>implying she's celtic
Hohoho

>>1478583
>lady
that's where everything fails: they cannot spare sentimentalism

>>1478596
Well native Brits pretty much are still Celts even with the Saxon blood

>>1478599
With saxon then later dane then later norman
How much is there celt really left in brits?

Wasn't the invasion and colonization of the British isles by the Romans in the long run extremely important for the English people?

>>1478611
then later nigger, then later curry then later paki then later syrian

>>1478596
Reminder Boudica is fucking retarded.

>>1478583
Were the Romans really evil like this lady is painting them to be?

>>1478653
The Romans were very very evil and the Celts didn't do nuffin

>>1478583
This is WEWUZ as fuck.

>>1478583
Why is there a dead goblin between the Roman and Celt?

>>1478689
Proto-Scoti.

>>1478700
So irish or pict?

>>1478710
Yes.

>>1478678
>>1478675
>>1478596
Explain to me as an Englishmen how she's wrong

>>1478583
>people cross from across the contenant into your home
>demand taxes
>kill those who resist
>send off prisoners to be slaves and fight in their death arenas
why wouldn't the Romans be considered the aggressors in this? local Celts were ding fuck all.

>>1478611
50-90%, depending on where

>>1478804
Like doing human sacrifices on each other and living in their own shit?

>>1479057
>le everything that wasn't Latin or Hellenic in Europe was stone age
nice meme

>>1478596
>>1478599
Scots, welsh and irish are celtic
Anglo-Saxons are not

>>1479074
Butthurt Ango "Celtic" detected. Go away Boudica, there aren't any defenseless Roman villages to massacre here.

Weren't half of our ancestors living in Northern Germany, Frisia and Jutland at the time? Not Britain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso

>what have the romans ever done for us?

>>1479097
Okay Luigi

>>1479104
>le must be an Italian meme for defending Romans
Okay, Hans.

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>>1479057
>Living in their own shit

You know Celts were famous for being really clean and using this weird fatty stuff they called soap right, don't you.

>>1479106
Why Hans?

>>1479120
Those were the Gauls, not the average Celtic tribe in Britain.

>>1479120
No, just mainland European Celts i.e. the Gauls. Ceasar noted unlike those in Britain or the Germanic tribes in Northern Europe, the Gauls were civilized, orderly, and sedentary. They had established towns, forts, and networks of roads and pathways and believed in free trade.

>>1479129
Why Luigi?

>>1479097
>implying I'm Celtic
Teutoberg Forest best day of my life

Just calling it as I see it Jose.

>>1479155
Cimbarian War best day of my life.

>Jose
Getting desperate there.

>>1479138
>No true scotsman meme

Well the picture is of an Irish Celt. And I'm pretty sure the practice was in Britain as well. If you're going to bother applying woad you might as well get washed first.

>>1479143
>They had established towns, forts, and networks of roads and pathways and believed in free trade.

As did the ones in Britain.

Wasn't the initial reason for Tome even giving to Britain because they kept sending troops to the Gauls during their war with the Empire?

One could then argue that the invasion and subsequent colonization was in retaliation.

>>1479151
Well Luigi is a stereotypical Italian name.

>>1479174
The ones in Britain were NOWHERE approaching the level of development in Gaul.

>>1478583
1. She's a MILF
2. She is technically right, the Romans weren't exactly nice people by todays standards

>>1479211
Prove it.

Until then I disagree. At least not NOWHERE near.

>>1479231
She talks about the Romans by today's modern standards but applies them to antiquity/classic period which is fucking retarded.

>She's a MILF

You have low standards.

>>1479253
Caesar's own words > your bullshit.

>>1479256
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Iron_Age

Then fucking provide them.

>>1479261
>wikipedia
Into the trash.

>>1478583
>there were actual goblins during the roman invasion of britain
Really makes me think

>>1479211
>The ones in Britain were NOWHERE approaching the level of development in Gaul.
If you're talking about urbanism then oppida in both Gaul and Britain were only ever notionally 'towns', the only notable difference between British and continental oppida is that some Gallic ones had walls designed by Greek engineers.
The Celtic World by Cunliffe is a good start, as is the essay Greeks, Etruscans and Thirsty Barbarians which is about trade and proto-urbanism in Hallstatt and La Tene Europe

>>1479268
I'm still the only one to provide a source anon.

Where are these 'words of Caesar' saying they were no where near as advanced as Gaul.

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>>1478689
>goblin

they prefer the term "KANGZ".

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>>1479254
>You have low standards.
you gay m8

Shes hot and likes history

>>1479315
He's talking about Caesar going through Gallic oppida (fortified trading settlements) and noting that there weren't any in the bits of Britain that he visited
Similar things did exist in Britain but they generally took the form of hill forts, which were more poly-functional in a sense and the defenses were more based around canalising attackers in earthworks rather than the extensive walls that existed in the continent

>>1479341
>classic butter face
Banging body? Sure. Hot? Hell no.

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>>1479345
you should know that 4chan is made up mostly of man-children who have mommy issues.

>>1478689
It's from a small indie game called Nethergate where Romans and celts duke it out in a valley filled with all the magical shit in the world making their escape from here.

>>1479344
Its okay anon, I knew what he was talking about, I was just trying to make him look stupid when he shows how ridiculously he's exaggerating.

Hillforts weren't the only defensive architecture though, there were towers called Brochs (some of which are still partially standing) and other such things as well.

>>1479386
>there were towers called Brochs
I was talking about the south mostly, because obviously Caesar only really bimbled around the south east for a bit before fucking off

>>1479404
And then there's whatever Stonehenge and similar stone circles were.

>>1479386
You didn't make anyone look stupid, my autistic friend.

>>1479083

scottish people are in fact anglo for the largw part, some parts of scotland even used to be english

>>1479307

la tene and halstatt were not celtic

>>1478583
What's that haircut called?

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>>1479467
lowland """"""""""""scots""""""""""""""" are just north-north english, absolutely nothing defines them apart from muh scots-english which is just english through the mouth of a drunkard

>inb4 le literally no tru scotsman xdddd

>>1479466
I'm still waiting for your sources my stupid looking friend.

>It was the biggest empire anyone had ever seen
Jesus Christ

>>1479498
>>1479467
Terminal autism, i prescribe suicide

>>1479485
>la tene and halstatt were not Celtic
Kek what?

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>>1479516
you just aren't a country anymore lad get over it, the UK *IS* England

>>1479345
idk dude
I would pee in her butt

>>1479506
Keep dreaming, autism kun.

>>1479359
if he had momy issues wouldnt he be all over that hot mommy?

>>1478724
>Human sacrifice
>The celts fought brutal wars amongst each other in which they did far more barbaric things to each other
>She's still salty about an event that almost happened 2,000 years ago

You're me ashamed to be a bong with that statement, stop it.

>a bloo bloo bloo muh ancient empires so evil and ruined my ancestors lives

People are fucking dumb and impose the same standards on empires ages ago as they do on modern democracies now and they actually act like they had anything to do with ancient peoples who they have no fucking association with what so ever. If the barbarians in Briton wanted to they would have raped and slaughtered the romans and they actually did on occasion.

>>1479687
The only reason Boudica managed any sort of fame was because she specifically targeted under defensed and undermanned Roman forts and colonias. When she actually fought a proper Roman force, she got her shit kicked in and the anvil fell for good on the Celts.

>>1479702
Boudica got her ass handed to her even though she outnumbered the romans at least 10 to 1. She was a fucking awful general

>>1479705
>>1479702
Isn't it sort of justified by Boudica and her generals getting cocky from butchering a bunch of Roman colonials and civilians and then send her entire force uphill to engage the rooms in some some hilly environment where they got tired, flanked, and slaughtered?

What pisses me off about Hughes is how she pushes Boudica as some kind of super hero icon to modern women and feminism and that she was a woman who was justified doing what she was doing because she and her daughters were raped? Mind you Hughes also downplays a certain pair of Celtic warlord brothers who harried and caused more difficulty with a small group of warriors in the initial stages of the Roman invasion then anything Boudica ever did.

>>1479720
Also to add, Boudica is recorded letting her men rape Roman women and girls as well and inflicting torture and gruesome executions on Roman civilian populations as well. I think the English historian lady here has very obvious agenda and its kind of sickening.

>>1479720
Boudica was a cocky retard, she never won an actual battle against an equal enemy

>hey lets go slaughter and rape romans
>oh shit an actual roman army that's alright because we have like 200k people and they have 10k
>oh did I forget to mention I brought literally all my people and all my tribes with me event the children
>oh shit we got our ass kicked by an actual competent general and troops
>people 2000 years later start bitching about the roman injustices

>>1479367

I never see fantasy settings with classic age civilizations instead of medieval shittery

Tell me more

>>1479738
I love nethergates. It's a classical RPG by spidweb. You create a party of 4, and battles are grid based.
You start out as either roman or celts, and the story/quests is different for each side.
Romans are better at weaponry, and celts are better at magic. Your main goal is to basically infiltrate the other side.

>>1479737
>>1479726
>>1479720
>>1479705
>>1479702
>>1479687
Fuck off chauvinists.

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And here it is friends, this is what a defeated anon without a leg to stand on looks like. Right here >>1479619.

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Romans were figuratively Hitler desu

>>1479938
>so booty blasted you waited an hour to make a reply again
Top frustration, friend.

>>1480319
Is that all you could come up with after 2 hours anon.
kek

Cry more. You just make yourself look worse, Mr source-less bullshit man.

>>1480393
>no u
Typical shitposter response.

>>1478583
>Atrebates were evil invaders!
>They perpetuated crimes and massacres against the Regni peoples and other native inhabitants of West Sussex (or whatever the fuck it was called before the saxons came)!
>Epaticcus only wanted to exploit and abuse the Regni people!
Britons r eevul.

>>1479165
Cimbrian War didn't stop the inevitable
:^)

>>1480732
No, but it did see the total genocide of three or so massive Germanic tribes. : ^)

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>>1480745
And later the wholesale fall of Rome

>>1481182
After liking getting their asses kicked for 600 more years. Whatever you say, dude.

>>1479120
That only happened after black moors taught them, actually.

>>1481186
>basically right on Roman Gaul's doorstep
>BTFO when trying to invade
>BTFO when invaded
Germanics >>>>>>> Rome

>>1478583
but Rome was allied to numerous native tribes and Claudius was declared a God there

>>1481280
Do you realize how many wars the Germanic tribes have lost against Rome?

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>>1481280
>even at the weakest state and most declined economically and military, Germanics still ran to Rome to save them from big bad Attila

>>1481405
All for naught desu :^)

>>1481213
hmm obviously not since Islam reached north africa 600 years after the Romans observed celts using soap, not sure what you're playing at

>>1481426
Says you, shitposter.

>>1481442
says I, in English

>>1481407
Germanics survived the Huns.

The Western Roman Empire, did not

>>1478611
At least 50% for almost everybody. 1/3 at the absolute least

>>1481453
A language that is 1/3rd Latin based and uses the Latin alphabet?

>>1481458
Germanics survived the Huns because of the Western Romans.

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>>1478583
wel shes right and the kelts were inbred as crap until romes boot got there

>>1481458
>Germanics survived the Huns.
You're being half-truthful at best. Germanic confederations and tribes all over Eastern Europe and past that were being overrun, slaughtered, or forced to join the Hunnic horde. Either they were killed, ran away, or joined the Huns period.

What stopped the Huns were the Romans taking charge in the Western Roman Empire and allying with their reluctant Gothic allies to break Attila's momentum and force a defeat on them. Which of course, is again thanks to Roman leadership and skill.

They survived because of Aetius otherwise you'd be no different then the average Turk right now.

>>1481469
>A language that is 1/3rd Latin based and uses the Latin alphabet?
>damage control

>>1481550
You don't know what damage control means either apparently. :^)

>>1481557
>trying to invalidate the fact that you speak the language of the Anglo-Saxons, a Germanic language, based on loan words

>>1479097
Get fucked, Roman scum

>>1481562
Not that guy, but to fair, we have a whole fucking shitload of them.

Doesn't change the fact that the way we form words and the structure of our grammar is still fundamentally Germanic, but we do indeed have an extraordinarily large number of loan words.

>Britain is a name that means freedom
Haha oh wow

>>1481585
desu baka senpai

>>1480449
That's all you'd been doing all thread. Face it anon you lost, now stop shitting butthurt all over the thread.

Or you could always post these magical secret sources that so trumps my own.

>>1481562
>>1482101
Still waiting for that rebuke, autism kun. Which of course, you don't have which is why you kept trying to move the goal posts and change the tangent to save face. :^)

>>1478583
>that unabashed Ango wankery and biased
>equating modern day morality into ancient times
Holy shit this woman is a joke.

>>1478583
Is that a Goblin?

>>1478583
Classical British view of the Roman era Britain; Romans were occupiers of reluctant peoples.

I guess we'll never know the truth. Of all the Roman territories, none of them completely collapsed like Briton did. In a hundred years there was literally nothing left of the Roman Briton civilization save for a few buildings.

>>1484625
Blame the perfidious Germanics for that.

>We ! We ! We !

I'm half Breton, I'm more "Briton" than her.

>>1484788
Explain.

>>1479138
>>1479143
Are gauls best celts ?

>>1484809
No Irish are
>>1484797
Bretons are Celtic

>>1479143
The Britons were more culturally advanced they simply lacked the unity of the Gauls

>>1485005
Bullshit. The Celtics i.e. Gauls in France/Gaul were heavily agricultural and dependent on trade with each community, had numerous developed roads and warfare was relatively unheard when regarding inter-tribal conflicts and what not.

That's the opposite of Britain where the Celtic tribes regularly made war on each other and boasted far less settlements, townships, or villages. While that other anon was right that not all British Celtics were not completely barbaric in the same sense as Germanics, I highly doubt they were on the level of mainland Celtics.

The Celts were a peaceful and gentle people who lived in a utopian society.

Then the rapist Romans came along and installed a system of racial hatred and misogyny.

>Pretending the Celts weren't murderous tribalist assholes
>pretending the Romans were not imperialist genocidal maniacs

>>1485049
Your not allowed to take a moderate stance you piece a shit.

>>1485015
I said they lacked the unity
I don't see many Gaulic chariots

>>1485049
The only time the Romans ever took any steps close to "genocide" was when they were under heavy assaults from roving bands and hordes of Teutonics and early proto-Germanic peoples and had to massacre them to protect themselves.

>>1485136
>hey man we're just trying to enjoy your nice forests stop attacking us
>this is in self defense!

>>1485136
>you will never bathe in Germanic blood

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>>1485153
>tfw you can bathe in Roman blood

>>1485136
>what is all Roman behavior in the Balklands
>what is Carthage

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>>1485147
>>1485160
>IlovetomurderGermanics.png

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>>1485411
heheheheHAHAHAHAHA

>>1485986
>only managed this after Rome saved their barbarian asses from getting constantly raped by the Huns

>>1486013
And Rome lost :^)

>>1486037
Keep telling yourself that, snownigger.

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>>1486045
I'll tell that to myself in English :^)

>>1484625

neither romans nor anglo-saxons were occupiers of reluctant peoples, in both cases britons organised them coming to britain

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>>1486064
>Anglo-Saxons
>bringing down Rome
Typical retard.

>>1486123
those numbers clearly aren't embellished

>>1486130
t. Lugius

>>1486139
mamma mia luigi eata my shella

>>1486148
You suck at shitposting senpai

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>>1486123
It's a Germanic world, you're just living in it

>>1486187
>English
>30% French
>30% Latin
Nice *****************Germanic******************** language you got there friend.

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>>1486209
>damage control
Nice pseudo-linguistics there, but even by your wrong ideas of what classifies language it's a stretch

Meanwhile Romance languages are for impoverished nations.

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>>1486222
>Nice psuedo-linguistics
Nice reverse damage control, faggot.

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>>1486222
>English even uses word order from French
This is what the eternal Anglo actually has to do, delude himself with lies.

>>1486222
No one can be possibly be this butthurt to shift the goal posts this much in a thread about Romans. Holy shit you a prime example of what is wrong with this board.

>>1486233
>>1486229
>hehe I'll ignore actual linguistic classification that looks at grammar and phonology and use my own version
>then when I get pointed out that even by those dumb rules most of Latin-origin words are barely used in common speech I'll show him!

>>1486244
>hell I'll ignore what German, English, and American experts have to say countering my argument as I futilely express my autistic delusions
(You) tried.

>>1486239
What goal posts moved from where to where? We're just dick-waving about it favorite historical entities as far as I could tell.

You're the one that seems aggravated ţbh fæm

>>1486248
>German, English, and American experts
Classify it as a Germanic language, what the fuck are you trying to argue? That it's Italic?

>celts
>people

>>1486250
>>1486255
(You)

>>1486255
>he can't even stop with the strawmans
top kek

>>1486263
>I have nothing of substance to retort with
Everyone ITT can see what's happening

>>1486266
What strawman? This (>>1486209) post questioned wether or not it was a Germanic language. I brought in linguistic facts to say it wasn't.

>>1486266
It's not a straw man anyhow, it was a question. What were you arguing?

>>1486274
There was no question in that post.

>>1486271
That's why when I posted it added a new IP to the thread? Okay.

>>1486278
>imply someone said one thing
>that they didn't say in the first place
>"its not a strawman"
Its a textbook strawman when you attack what I say over something I never said in the first place and make a false argument out of it. English is a literal mongrel language, you retard.

>>1486274
>>1486278
Changing your posting style isn't going to stop the (You)s.

>>1486286
>There was no question in that post.
Autism. Let's play semantics. You implied that English was not Germanic.

>That's why when I posted it added a new IP to the thread? Okay.
Ok?

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>>1486293
>Autism.
Buzzword.
>You implied English was not Germanic.
I did not. Once again, false flagging and bullshitting to save face isn't working for you.
>Ok?
So you are retarded. Got it.

>>1486167
you seem butthurt

>>1486293
Noting the fact that there's more, far more, foreign influence from Latin and French in English despite it being a Germanic language is not challenging its origins as a Germanic language, you piss-ant.

That's like saying "I don't like the color blue" translate to "He must love the color red then".

>>1486291
That's both me, what's the deal?

>>1486290
The post clearly brought the validity of English as a Germanic language into question. I asked you what you were arguing, I never said you were arguing one way. It's not a straw man in that regard.

>>1486298
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>>1486037
>>1485986
(You)

>>1486303
>That's both me
Nice, you're ESL as well. I know its you anyway, friend shitposter.

>it's not a strawman
It is absolutely a strawman because I never challenged the origins of English as a Germanic language, which you keep alledging otherwise by cherry picking one thing I said and twisting it to make a false argument out of it another way.

You are stupid.
You are a bad poster.
You are a classic shitposter.

>>1486301
>Noting the fact that there's more, far more, foreign influence from Latin and French in English despite it being a Germanic language
Maybe if you ignore grammar abd phonology
>is not challenging its origins as a Germanic language, you piss-ant.
Then why post >>1486209
>Nice *****************Germanic******************** language you got there friend.
then?

>>1486309
>then?
Then what? I'm still waiting for that evidence that you can't seem to supply of claiming English isn't a Germanic language on my part. Keep backpedaling.

>Maybe if you ignore grammar
Thanks to French starting from the Norman period.

>>1486309
>Then why post >>1486209
Because its true. Now is this the part where you go back to trying to shitpost about Rome shitting on your snowniggers?

>>1486308
>Nice, you're ESL as well. I know its you anyway, friend shitposter.
I_was_going_to_have_to_face_but_I_saw_you_made_a_spelling_error.meme

>I never challenged the origins of English as a Germanic language
Explain >>1486209 then, and all your '*'s.

>>1486313
>Because its true
But it's not, English is classified as a Germanic language, no '*'s about it.

>>1486320
Spelling errors are better then grammatical ones, ESL kun.

>Explain >>1486209 then
You are fucking stupid, that's the only explanation needed.

>15th, 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries in particular saw the greatest influx of more words and terms borrowed from Latin into Middle and Modern English
>According to David Crystal (2005), "There had been a steady trickle of Latin borrowings into English throughout the Middle English period, but during the fifteenth century their number greatly increased, and in the sixteenth century they became so numerous, along with words from Greek, that the character of the English lexicon was permanently altered"
>During the It is clear that this period accounts for most of the borrowings from Latin. This was a time of great writing and many writers were borrowing directly from Latin. These borrowings, called ink-horn terms, were often overused (Crystal, 2005), and although some critics did protest the use of Latin borrowings, they didn't really have an effect on the number of borrowings that were still appearing in English. The Latin borrowings during this period gave English speakers a vast amount of choices when it came to word selection.

>>1486312
>Thanks to French starting from the Norman period
English Grammar is Germanic though

>>1486322
Good thing I didn't say English wasn't a Germanic language then, strawman kun. You just can't stop sucking dicks can you?

>>1486327
All the loan words in the world don't change English's linguistic classification
>English is classified as a Germanic language because it shares new language features (different from other Indo-European languages) with other Germanic languages such as Dutch, German, and Swedish.[16] These shared innovations show that the languages have descended from a single common ancestor, which linguists call Proto-Germanic. Some shared features of Germanic languages are the use of modal verbs, the division of verbs into strong and weak classes, and the sound changes affecting Proto-Indo-European consonants, known as Grimm's and Verner's laws. Through Grimm's law, the word for foot begins with /f/ in Germanic languages, but its cognates in other Indo-European languages begin with /p/. English is classified as an Anglo-Frisian language because Frisian and English share other features, such as the palatalisation of consonants that were velar consonants in Proto-Germanic (see Phonological history of Old English § Palatalization).[17]

>>1486329
English grammar is based off French grammar, exact same fucking word order which matches with the influx of French based vocabularly and grammatics replacing and mutating Old English for good.

French was as common for layman speakers in England within a century of the Norman conquest. Even English linguists and etymologists have admitted this.

English is a mongrel language.

>>1486336
>Change English's linguistic classification
I never said anything about its classification. Why are you so stupid?

>>1486336
Why haven't you killed yourself yet? You lied about my post, repeat the same retarded shit ad naseum and constantly make nonsensical strawmans and red herrings because you are a faggot who can't debate worth shit.

Is life really that painful for you?

>>1486331
Then why put 'Germanic' around a bunch of '*'s, because English is Germanic plain and simple. Using all those '*'s would suggest it is not.

>>1486344
Are you mentally challenged?

>>1486342
With all that anger you're posting with its look like you're the one in pain.

>>1486339
>>1486342
This whole argument hinges on wether or not this post (assumingly yours), >>1486209, calls English's Germanicness into question. So let's make this simple. Did you mean to question English's Germanicness with this post?

>>1486353
Are you mentally challenged?

>>1486347
Fucking what? Address the post.

>>1486358
Do you have a severe type of mental handicap? Because you keep posting as if you do possess one.

>>1486353
What argument? You're literally autistic and can't even admit to yourself your denial about obfuscating the topic completely here by making a strawman argument.

I'll ask you again. Do you deny that English is a mongrel language? Do you deny the overwhelming majority of foreign words, influence, vocabulary, and grammar are based off of Romance Languages making up the majority of Modern English?

Yes or no?

>>1486360
Could you tell me why my post would suggest this? Because I'm doing nothing but laying down facts abd observations, meanwhile you insult people over the internet like it's a middle school lunch table.

>>1486353
When did I say it wasn't Germanic by mocking the fact its over 2/3rds Romance language? Are you a super faggot? Yes I think you are but that doesn't correlate to my statement about you falsely claiming I said otherwise of its original origins, shitposter kun.

>>1486367
I don't see any observations. I just see you constantly lying about a single post I made and trying to alter a statement to fit a bullshit narrative you're trying to weave because you are a textbook troll.

>insult people
There are no *people* here, its just you I'm insulting.

>>1486367
Also I bet you're the same faggot who didn't get the debens meaning in that stupid ERE thread today too.

>>1486362
This'd be smoother if you actually answered my question, but here goes.

>Do you deny that English is a mongrel language?
A "mongrel language" doesn't exist. Languages are analyzed by ask their features abd classified accordingly. You don't see languages being described as "Germanic and part Italic"
>Do you deny the overwhelming majority of foreign words, influence, vocabulary, and grammar are based off of Romance Languages making up the majority of Modern English?
Somewhat, since English Grammar is overwhelmingly Germanic and loan words are inconsequential to a language's classification.

>strawmam argument
That's what my post (>>1486353) is meaning to address. I've answered your question, now you answer mine.
Did you mean to question English's Germanicness with this post?

>>1486373
I'm not, didn't touch that thread.

>>1486370
I'm not lying about your post. Saying "Nice *****************Germanic******************** language you got there friend" is like saying "Caitlyn Jenner is a *****************Woman********************". We all know what it means.

>>1486383
>A "mongrel language" doesn't exist.
English is a living language, Old English completely disappeared in the early 1000s when the Normans conquered England. This segued to the immediate rise of MIddle English, which was further impacted by directly absorbing Latin grammar rules and the English lexicon being almost totally subservient to French and Latin loan words. Latin has not changed, English is always changing. There are over 15,000 French words in the English language which are based off Latin words primarily in turn which even an English speaker who has no French knowledge could identify. The overwhelming majority of vocabulary, terms, and grammar come from Romance languages, not Germanic because the Germanic ones were replaced.
>English grammar is overwhelmingly Germanic
No it isn't.
>I've answered your question.
No you didn't.
>Did you mean to question English's Germanicness
I mean to say you are retarded because the meaning behind what I said was clear when 2/3rds of English is not Germanic vocabularly wise alone.

>>1486385
>I'm not
Yeah I'll take your word for that. That's sarcasm by the way, since I know you'll struggle with that.
>I'm not lying about your post.
Except you are.
>We all know what it means.
You clearly don't.

>>1478628
So we're to believe a legatus had a foederati leader whipped and her children raped *under his direct command*? Yeah no. Celtic sob story to whip the Britons into resisting the Romans.

>>1486402
Is there any actual real historical data or information on Boudica's claim of Roman rape on her and her daughters verifying it?

>>1486410
Nope. Not a shred. Makes for a more romantic "Breaveheart" sorry so of course it for romanticized by 1900's feminists

>>1486390
>Latin has not changed
Holy shit you can't be serious. That's the whole origin of the Romance languages, they evolved out of Latin as English evolved out of Old English.

>directly absorbing Latin grammar rules and the English lexicon being almost totally subservient to French and Latin loan words
English does not follow Latin grammar rules, you'd know that if you had taken any classes in any Romance language. It's so monumentally different I can't post all the ways it is. Let me just give you a link so you can educate yourself. English is not enslaved to Latin origin words as demonstrated by their prevalence in common speech.

>>1486424
Latin is Latin.

>English is not enslaved to Latin grammar rules
The entire purpose of the rise of Middle English was because Old English got waylaid by French thanks to the Normans and all the lexicon and grammar was based off classical Latin from Christian monks and writers who infused it into English.

You are literally still going on about this for over a half hour now for someone mocking the "Germanicness" of English. Stop posting.

>>1486390
>>I'm not lying about your post.
>Except you are.
I demonstrated how I was not, you ignored it.
>>We all know what it means.
>You clearly don't.
So if I say "Caitlyn Jenner is a *****************Woman********************" I totally mean he's a genuine certifiable female right? I'm not implying that he is actually a man?

>>1486432
>I demonstrated how I was not, you ignored it.
What demonstration? I'm still waiting for it because you have yet to do so thus far in the thread.
>So if I say "Caitlyn Jenner is a ****************Woman**************** I totally mean he's a genuine certifiable female right? I'm not implying that he is actually a man?
If you understand that then why were you strawmaning my statement about the Germanicness of English or claiming I was calling it Italic?

You have demonstrably proven you are a very stupid person.

>>1486426
>Latin is Latin
Latin died off as a commonly spoken language. It evolved into the Romance languages.

>>1486426
>The entire purpose of the rise of Middle English was because Old English got waylaid by French thanks to the Normans and all the lexicon and grammar was based off classical Latin from Christian monks and writers who infused it into English.
But French and English Grammar are hugely different. Our language has become grossly simplified, but it hasn't become Latinate.

>You are literally still going on about this for over a half hour now for someone mocking the "Germanicness" of English.
Or rather it's because you're full of shit and a rude cunt at that. Anyhow, it's 02:07 here and I'm probably going to sleep. Hopefully the thread is still up in the morning.

>>1486443
Latin is Latin. It degenerated in areas of non-classical speakers into Vulgar Latin which evolved and mixed with others to become French, Italian, Spanish, Portugese, and Roman. Classical Latin remains Latin. So wrong again, skippy.

>French and English Grammar are hugely different.
Both are SVO. Which stems from Latin being the basis of that.
>Or rather it's because you're full of shit
I'm not the loser who made up a nonsensical unrelating tangent who started shitposting about Romans in thread about Romans vs Celts on questionable English historians having biased accounts and throwing a hissy fit over someone mocking a Germanic Language, English, being more closely related to Romance ones then its own Germanic links.

Please kill yourself.

>>1486438
>What demonstration? I'm still waiting for it because you have yet to do so thus far in the thread.
You quoted it dumbass

>If you understand that then why were you strawmaning my statement about the Germanicness of English or claiming I was calling it Italic?
Because my demonstrations was almost a direct quote from >>1486209 and I didn't say you claimed it was Italic, I asked if you meant that. It was a question, not a statement.
Your reading comprehension is fucking trash and you have no idea how linguistics works.

>>1486450
>You quoted it dumbass.
What demonstration?
>I didn't say you claimed it was Italic.
No, you're obfuscating and lying again, faggot kun. You claimed I was saying it wasn't Germanic and then you strawmanned again saying if I was implying it was Italic rather then Germanic. You are fucking stupid and should again, end yourself.

>>1486449
>It degenerated in areas of non-classical speakers into Vulgar Latin which evolved and mixed with others to become French, Italian, Spanish, Portugese, and Roman.
Then it changed retard.
>Classical Latin remains Latin.
Just as Old English remains Old English, but like Old English, Latin isn't spoken anymore. It's evolved versions are.

>>1486455
>Then it changed retard.
It branched out, retard. Latin is still around, still being spoken, and still being studied to this day. Vulgar Latin changed into those, not Classical Latin.
>Just as Old English remains Old English
Good thing I never confused Old English with modern English huh. You still here and haven't buggered off yet despite claiming to do so? More classic bullshit.

>>1486449
Latin is SOV. English is SVO. French being SVO is a change from Latin. In this regard, both English and French have changed from their mother tongues.

>>1486454
It wasn't a straw man. If I "defeated" a non-existent claim that English was Italic it'd have been a straw man. I just asked a question if you thought it was. A simple clarification on your part, as was requested, would've sufficed.

>>1486460
>It branched out, retard. Latin is still around, still being spoken, and still being studied to this day.
Tell me what ethnicity still speaks Latin as it was in Rome.
>Vulgar Latin changed into those, not Classical Latin.
Guess what Vulgar Latin came from? Latin.

>>1486476
You don't defeat an argument or false claim to make it a strawman, you moron. Attacking anyone on a false position you made up fallaciously from falsely a statement made in the first place equates to a strawman argument. You literally said I was calling it Italic right off the bat.

You don't even know how to use fallacies correctly.

>A simple clarification on your part, as was requested, would've sufficed.
Your stupidity is not my personal problem to have misunderstood my mockery of English "Germanicism" being in question in the first place is on you, not me.

Goodnight asshole, hope to see you tomorrow morning.

>>1486482
Tell me when I was talking about Old English vs modern English first when it came to foreign language influence in the first place.
>Guess what Vulgar Latin came from? Latin.
Guess what Romance Languages are based off of directly? Vulgar Latin, not Latin.

>>1486487
Kill yourself.

>>1486390
Tell me what Latin and Romance grammar rules English absorbed, anon.

>>1486483
>You don't defeat an argument or false claim to make it a strawman, you moron.
>A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.[1]
But it is

>You literally said I was calling it Italic right off the bat.
I didn't. I only asked if you were.

>>1486496
>>1486487
(You) can Not Stop.

>>1478583
>Romans were evil invaders!
By modern social standards yes, by the standards of the time they did what everyone else did except more successfully.

>They perpetuated crimes and massacres against the Celtic peoples and other native inhabitants of Britain!
Again, correct, though again others at the time did it

>Rome only wanted to exploit and abuse the British people!
Again, slavery did exist and the romans certainly took slaves, though everyone else was also performing slavery

So yes, the only reason they get brought up is that they managed to do these things successfully to everyone else.

>>1478615
>Wasn't the invasion and colonization of the British isles by the Romans in the long run extremely important for the English people?
No, the saxonisation of the UK began with the late roman empire hiring saxon mecenaries as the legion system fell apart, these saxon mercs brought their families, settled the land and eventually started banding together and conquering territory.


>>1486402
>>1486410
Yes, Tacitus was born roughly 5 years before Boudiccia died and reported on it as a roman, Cassius Dio who wrote on the incident two centuries latter omits any discussion of roman wrongdoing.

>>1486499
>But it is.
Wrong.
>I didn't.
You did.

See >>1486255
Why are you still awake, honey booboo?

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>>1486491
>>Guess what Vulgar Latin came from? Latin.
>Guess what Romance Languages are based off of directly? Vulgar Latin, not Latin.
See pic

>kill yourself
No u :^)

>>1486500
I'm not him, but I'm curious. You seem to have some strange ideas about the history of English and linguistics in general. Tell me how you think the majority of English grammar comes from Romance language.

>>1486507
>repeating yourself ad naseum
Adorable.

>>1486508
>I'm not him.
Yes you are. You have the same posting style, you also can not the unique IP tracker in the thread only switched from 48 to 50 when these two: >>1486501
>>1486402
Posted.

Who are you trying to fool?

>>1486507
>I'm going to bed
>still shitposting an hour later
How far is that stick up your ass, faggot?

>>1486504
>>But it is.
>Wrong.
I didn't defeat a imaginary argument. That's a straw man.

>>I didn't.
>You did.
Quote it

>Why are you still awake, honey booboo?
Because I'm wearing my big boy pants.

>>1486513
I'm not, but it doesn't matter. Go on, explain what you meant. Or is it that you cant?

>>1486516
>How far is that stick up your ass, faggot?
Pretty far, I'm thinking of you while I do it

>>1486517
>I didn't defeat a imaginary argument.
You made up something I never claimed and attacked me on something I never said, classic strawman.
>Quote it.
I already have multiple times.
>my big boy pants
Cunts aren't men, and you aren't one obviously so I doubt that.

>>1486518
>I'm not
You are. You don't even have a rebuttal for the fact you are blatant samefagging. And before you saying anything I never denied I'm the same person responding to your posts as you're so ass pained you're pretending to be a different poster with your replies.

You aren't fooling anyone.

>>1486513
>Yes you are.
I've been using a mix of 4g and Wi-Fi throughout the day and might have two IPs then, but that's not me

>>1486527
Its not working.

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>>1486527
Forgot pic

>>1486530
>oh shit five seconds in an a browser and editing out the (You)s
Amazing.

>>1486522
>>I didn't defeat a imaginary argument.
>You made up something I never claimed and attacked me on something I never said, classic strawman.
I didn't

>>Quote it.
>I already have multiple times.
Do it again, because I didn't.

>>my big boy pants
>Cunts aren't men, and you aren't one obviously so I doubt that.
No humor

>>1486537
Paranoid

>>1486539
You did.
>Do it again.
Not my problem, yours.
>No humor
Says the faggot that ruined the thread with your butthurt, you aren't in the position to speak about humor here.
>>1486542
Just not dumb enough to fall for your bait. And you're still ass pained enough to keep posting over a 40 minutes after claiming to go to bed. Keep digging that grave deeper.

>>1486544
>Says the faggot that ruined the thread with your butthurt
Takes two to tango

>bait
If I was I'd be vikangz or sword posting. This' pretty winded for a bait.

>>1486552
So you admit it? Thanks for the concession, friend.

>>1486552
Now its time I went to bed, don't worry I'll filter out any posts you make either way if you intend to prolong this tomorrow.

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wow
so french
much latin
very romance

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the fucking mad going on here

>>1478583
>we shouldn't have stood a chance
>roman empire reached its limits
>shouldn't have stood a chance
Couldn't last 30 seconds.

>>1486556
>So you admit it?
if that's what you got from that sentence, this whole argument makes sense because you don't have reading comprehension worth a damn

>>1486574
whatever prevents you from seeing your wrong.

>>1478724
well, for starters, she probably isn't fucking Celtic
Let me give you a hint: the Angles and Saxons invaded Britain after the fall of the Roman Empire

ITT: two fucking retards
You should both kill yourselves tbqhf. This board would be better off without you

>>1487520
Why

>>1487173
Holy shit you are really this stupid.

>>1488655
Holy shit you really are this stupid.

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>>1488700

>>1482936
What are you talking about? I'm >>1482101.

>>1488726
Sure thing buddy.

>>1488734
What do you mean 'sure thing' buddy?

anyway, I did not once change the tangent or move goalposts. You made a ridiculous claim, I asked you to prove it, and you couldn't because you knew you were wrong. That was the extent of the conversation.

The only one moving goalposts and trying to save face here is you. You lost, accept it.

>>1479345
Never seen a virgin so assblasted from misusing you have low standards. You better recall something else that. Was said to you in highschool to regurgitate at the next anon who puts your drivel opinions in their place

>>1488748
>>1488760
Whatever you say buddy.

>>1488784
>virginity insults on 4chan
Not even him but that is some reddit tier commentary mate.

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>>1488721

>>1480319
Waiting an hour in abject terror of an anons criticism. Youre more pathetic

>>1488785
No one knows what you are talking about.

This conversation should have ended when it became clear that you were just going to sit an smugly refuse to back up your complete Bullshit.

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>>1478583

>>1488809
>>1488813
>>1488873
(You) are this butthurt. Fantastic.

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>>1489032
What are you even trying to do?

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>>1489061
>5 minutes 17 seconds later
What are (You) even trying to do?

>>1489076
Anon, I've only just came back to this thread. The last post I made was >>1482101 yesterday.

Have you seriously been extending your lost argument for two days with other anons?

I think anyone could agree with you here >>1479466 anymore. I certainly have tricked you into making yourself look stupid.

>>1489112
(You)'ve been here the entire time. You attempted to samefag while pretending to be a different person and looked like an idiot when you forgot that thread watch being enabled lets anyone be aware of unique ips joining the thread, which was pointed out earlier.

You strawman a fake argument you made up, posted ad naseum all night shitposting and tried again to pull the same shit. I'm here to just give out the (You)s for you.

>>1489134
Anon, I've not been here since yesterday.

I do not know what you are talking about.

>>1489156
Yes you have.

>>1489174
I really haven't.

Quote all the posts in the thread that you think are me and I'll show you if you want.

>>1489187
Not buying it faggot kun.

>quote all the posts that are mine so I can spend five minutes line editing them in Chrome/Opera/Firefox and editing out the (Yous)

Sure thing buddy.

>>1489196
I'll post immediately.

But really anon, you're being really autistic. When I was actually taking to you you'll remember there was long gaps of time between replies.

That's because I was in other threads, I'm not going to sit in here waiting eagerly for you paranoid nonsense.

>>1489213
>I'll post immediately.
Not hard with 15 second cool downs between posts, its not working chap.
>autism
Buzzwords from the poster who has samefagged the entire time don't discomfort me or bother me when they're groundless.
>I was in other threads
You were here the whole time, you aren't a new poster.

>>1489218
I was here yesterday you retard.

Why are you even so bothered, its just a fucking argument on 4chan.

>>1489226
I know you were here all day, piss-ant.

>Why are you even so bothered
Why are you?
>fucking argument on 4chan
So why are you even so bothered?

>>1489253
I'm not, I haven't been here all day.

Whoever you were talking to, they wasn't me.

>>1489263
You have been. The unique IP tracker for posters doesn't lie. Give it up.

>>1489270
Give what up. What are you even talking about?

Here's every post that was a reply to me. So you know who you are talking to.

>>1489270
>>1489253
>>1489218
>>1489196
>>1489174
>>1489134
>>1489076
>>1489032
>>1488785
>>1488734
>>1488726
>>1482936
>>1481213
>>1480449
>>1480319
>>1479619
>>1479466
>>1479404
>>1479344
>>1479268
>>1479256
>>1479211
>>1479151
>>1479143
>>1479138

>>1489282
>>1489303
Nice (You) friend.

>>1489444
Whatever anon.

>>1489476
See ya.