So now that the dust has settled, is civilisation a good thing?

>>1473807
If you're part of the elite, it's the best thing that could possibly happen.

Civilization is necessary, due to the primitive impulses of humans themselves.

They need civilization to keep them in check

I mean it's ok but it's nothing to write home about

>>1473819
>Civilization is necessary, due to the primitive impulses of humans themselves.
>They need civilization to keep them in check
Fuck off Hobbes, your worldview was proven to be mostly wrong a long fucking time ago.

>>1473807
On a personal subjective level I consider the civilization I live in now to be pretty damn good. I'm not going to pretend that all civilizations have been objectively good things though.

>>1473807
It has its good and bad parts. At any rate, it is better than the alternative.

Western civilization is good, others need to be stamped out as efficiently as possible.

>>1473807
It turned out to grow like cancer, and is not sustainable. The idea needs reworking.

>>1474824
Organic, free range civilizations.