Are the French Germanic?

>>1446861
No they are Latin

>>1446861
they're celtic

>>1446861
No there are arabic

>>1446861
Chinese

>germanic
>latin
>celtic
>arabic
>chinese
So definitely not white though that we can all agree on?

No, we're French.

Define 'white'

>>1446919
if you get sunburned, you are white.

>>1446922
You know, even the niggest niggers can get sunburns. It's just a question of conditions.

French is not an ethnicity, it's a nationality. And yes, some of them are Germanic.

>>1446861
They're Germanico-Celtico Latinized slave.

>>1446861
They're celts with latin and germanic influences.

>>1447012
and celts are hunter gathers with neolithic middle eastern farmer influences

#Je suis celte
#Je suis germanique
#Je suis latin

>>1447020
Well, so are latins and italics in general for that matter. Most of western Europe is basically the same genetically.

They're celtified romanized frankified latinized pre-indo-european aborigines

>>1446861

>Easternlings
>White

>>1446861
Does this count as wewuzism? I think it should.

>>1447052
No, because no one in France actually cares.

>>1447057
I really was referring to the germs, who try to claim every successful european state as germanic just like niggers claim anything not spawned at the north pole as black.

>>1447065
Germans are Germanic
Not all germanics are german
Anyone with a brain should know this though

Franks were undoubtedly germanic, French are not
Not linguistically, not ethnically, maybe in some part genetically more so in certain regions than others

>>1447073
You can't be genetically germanic, because you're talking of an ethnolinguistic group with a rather diverse genetic footprint. If you wanna talk of germanics as a genetic group, you have to exclude the majority of the people called such through history, from as far back as pre roman times.

>>1446861
Isn't northern Italy germanic due to the longobards?

>>1447083
Okay, in that case the french aren't germanic simple and clear

Define 'Germanic'

>>1446919
Ethnically European

>>1447118
European since when?

prior to the introduction of farming, Otzi age, 4000 years ago, 2000 years ago?

Define "are"

>>1447126
Anytime during or after the Roman Republic

>>1447085
No way. The longobards were not that numerous, they were pretty evenly spread on the peninsula, and their influence was negligible.
Not to mention the franks basically genocided them after Charlemagne and replaced them in most of the north (hence why only one region is called Lombardia). Stupid fucks kept revolting in the north east.

>>1446861
they speak the language of their conquerors, thus no.

>>1446861
The Scots are more Germanic than anyone else on the British isles

>>1446861
No, Germanic is a linguistic group with no genetic affiliation.

French includes some Germanic words but is derived from Latin.

/thread

>>1447118
That's so arbitrary

A Greek from Thrace is an "ethnic European", but a Turk from right across the Bosporus is not. But Greeks and Turks are genetically almost identical.

>>1447346
I think he's implying that "whiteness" is an ethnic rather than genetic attribute.
Which frankly makes more sense than any sort of genetic definition.

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Only the yellow part are real frenchmen

>>1447389
rude

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>>1447021

>>1447411
>it's actually a finn

not surprised

>>1447417
>recognizes finn street names
Get the fuck out of here, you mongshit

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>>1447399

not rude

languedoc should rise against they Spanish, French and Italian opressors.

>>1447411
>45
That nigga doesn't look that old, I'd have said early to middle 30s.

>>1447354
Fair enough

>>1447411
/pol/ makes fun of this guy but he's based as fuck

>>1446861
Celtic/Germanic mix

Also the Lowland Scots, Anglo-Welsh, and Scots-Irish were considered white

>>1447423
I'm french

>Hel(sinki) look
>that fucking street name erottajijiijijehei

100% finn confirmed

>>1447432
It's still pretty funny
The dude claims he's celtic while being black and thinks kilt is a Breton tradition somehow

>>1446861
they are latin. the germanic franks took over gaul but they were only the ruling class.

>>1447558
Gaul is Gaulish not Latin.

>>1446861
>Anonymous 07/22/16(Fri)13:48:35 No.
Nope we aren't.

We speak a latin language, and we're catholic.

>>1447389
>"Bretons are not French !"
I love this meme

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>>1447580
GIBE ME BACK MA LAND !!!!

>>1447619
That's a language map, friendo

>>1447330
>what are anglo-saxons

>>1447619
Literal immigrants from Conrwall though

>>1447635
I'm 1/4th Breton so this means I'm 1/4th English ?
>LONG LIVE THE QUEEN

>>1446861
Franks, Goths, Burgundians and later Vikings culturally enriched the local celtic peasants and gallo-roman elite.
The end.

>>1446861
Hardly

>>1446922
>tfw you suddenly discover you're white

This is jarring.

>>1446861
Majority of French, I think around half of the "ethnic" ones, are genetically Germanic while the next largest genetic group would be Celtic/Gaulic.

>>1447663

Cornishmen aren't English.

>>1447631
Lowland Scots

They certainly speak a purer dialect of anglic than anyone else

>>1446861
Northern and Eastern French people probably have a lot of Germanic genetics in them.

>>1447558
>Romans taking over makes them Latin
>Franks taking over doesn't make them German

The French are Latinized-Germanized Celts.

>>1447558
There was no ethnic class system dumbass.

>>1449397
>the ethnic warrior class who just invaded didn't prop themselves at the top of the conquered society
Alright, man, whatever you say.

>>1449465
It didn't, that's the whole fucking point of Clovis' conversion to Catholicism, and the entire reason France survived the dark ages, and also most likely the reason the Franks even managed to conquer all of Gaul in the first place. The Franks adopted the local religion and intermarried with the locals, while also maintaining the Gallo-Roman aristocracy in place and sharing the land 50/50.

>>1449475
>Frank nobles only held 50% of the land, and shared the rest with the Gallo-Romans

That's still 50% of the land for a considerably smaller part of the population.

>>1449553
Yeah, so? They still weren't an ethnic ruling class since they intermarried with the Gallo-Romans, within two generations there was no longer such a thing as ethnic Franks (except in Eastern Austrasia where the local population was Frankish as well).

>>1447020
>believing the memes

>>1447083

wrong

>>1446861
>Spain
>Not white

The Latin/Germanic/Celtic/Slavic subracial division is bullshit.

>>1447020
All Europeans were originally hunter gatherers

>>1446867
This, even anglos and southern germans are more celtic than anything else

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>>1450018

>>1450034

there were no celts in southern germany

>>1446861
The French have all kinds of ancestry. This applies as well to the Germans.

>>1446861
French is cluster-fucked creole of vulgar Latin and Germanic. Heavily corrupted language at all.

>>1451141
English is cluster-fucked creole of Germanic, Latin and French. Heavily corrupted language at all.

>>1451246
indeed

>>1451080
You are mistaken.
Archeological evidence, Tacitus, basic education.
Read up on Hallstatt culture, Latène culture.
Speechless.

>>1451080
Nope. There were.

>>1451080
What are the Boii ?

And the Celts were also in Northern Germany and Netherland(sicambri marcomanii, etc)

>>1446861
WE WUZ LATINS

t. charlememe

>>1451309

hallsatt andla tene are the basis of germanic culture

>>1451532
>Austrian
>Swiss
stay cucked Germany (caring about this shit automatically makes you an idiot desu)

>>1451532
>hallsatt andla tene
>Germanic

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Be German
>The Roman Empire was ruled by italian, syrian, illyrian, gallic, britonnic and dacian emperors
>Fuck that, some of them have light hairs and light eyes, therefore WE WUZ ROMANZ N SHEIT
>The Marcomanni, Sicambri and Boii are gaulish names, their leader carried gaulish names.
>Fuck that, they're germans
>Hallstat and La Tène, clearly show sign of being celtic, like the oppida, and are located in celtic lands
>Fuck that they're germans, after all, only swamp dweller like us germans, can create a civilization
>Charlemagne was born in Quierzy-sur-Oise, France, spoke old french, loved the latin culture and the latin poets like Horace, Ovid, and Virgil. He also was immortalized by french poets in the the Sung of Roland, the Pilgrimage of Charlemagne, etc
>Fuck that he was german, i don't care until 1950 we never claimed him, but now he spoke german, i also don't care franks ceased to speak Frankish after they conquered gaul, he still spoke Frankish

no word can describe how i hate you, Hans.

>>1451920
Charlemagne actually spoke old High German, was probably born around Modern day Belgium. France turning Charlemagne into a historical waifu dosen't prove shit and him loving Latin culture dosen't make him any more french or german. Stating he's one or the other is anachronic and just fucking retarded. These autists who state that the Franks and French are one and the same just because of "Muh same name" need to take their heads out of their asses. FRANKS ARE FRANKS. THE FRENCH AND GERMANS ARE FRANKISH DESCENDANTS. So please would all the Frogs and Krauts give it a rest already.

>>1452992
>So please would all the Frogs and Krauts give it a rest already.

Impossible. Pretty sure thats their raison d'etre.

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>>1446861

>Poles aren't white

>>1446861

No they're Algerian

>>1453485
Nope it is the algerians who are french, in fact they speak french, but french don't speak algerian :)

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>>1453481

>>1446922
I get sunburned with only a couple of minutes out in the sun, and I'm Hispanic so I doubt you'd call me white.

>>1447354
Except it makes little sense to keep calling that concept "whiteness".

>>1447354
>>1454816

its genetic obviously

>>1454838
It's pointless.

>>1454816
Hispanic is not a race, there are white Hispanics.

>>1454856

so why have you and countless other jews been putting so much effort into trying to de-legitimize it on 4chan for the past year or so? It can't be so pointless if you're that threatened by it

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>>1448622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d9DI122Cnc

>>1446861
Yes according to the theories that the Nazis subscribed to. Atleast northern france.

>>1454870
Well, most of /pol/ will disagree with the "there are white Hispanics" part.

And the point is that even Latin American mutts like me can be "white" enough to get sunburned within minutes, making that anon's definition pointless if he wants to include only 100% European autists.

>>1454905
I'm not a jew, I have not been "putting effort for years" to de-legitimize anything, and I'm not threatened by such an autistic concept. Take off your tinfoil hat.

I'm baffled by people like you who somehow assume skin color is connected to intelligence, and/or judge people based on skin color instead of intelligence. It makes you no different from the racists against whites that you hate so much.

That anon was suggesting something more sensible: using ethnicity as a definer for "European" or "Western" (or "übermensch" or whatever it is you're conflating with "white"), since culture is way more connected to a person's actions and capabilities than their skin color, but made the mistake of still calling that "whiteness".

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a "accept everyone like a special snowflake, ban offensive speech on this safe speace" faggot, I have nothing against discrimination against stupid or obnoxious people, nor would I have any qualms if the aforementioned group over-represented niggers, women, etc. I'm just not so deluded to think that skin color is a be all end all separator between capable and incompetent people, nor do I _need_ to believe that I'm capable just because my skin has a certain amount of pigmentation.

>>1451309
>>1451345
>>1451535
>>1451920

Many archaeologists still hold this view of a grand iron-age Celtic culture in the centre of the continent, which shrank to a western rump after Roman times. It is also the basis of a strong sense of ethnic identity that millions of members of the so-called Celtic diaspora hold. But there is absolutely no evidence, linguistic, archaeological or genetic, that identifies the Hallstatt or La Tène regions or cultures as Celtic homelands. The notion derives from a mistake made by the historian Herodotus 2,500 years ago when, in a passing remark about the “Keltoi,” he placed them at the source of the Danube, which he thought was near the Pyrenees. Everything else about his description located the Keltoi in the region of Iberia.

The late 19th-century French historian Marie Henri d’Arbois de Jubainville decided that Herodotus had meant to place the Celtic homeland in southern Germany. His idea has remained in the books ever since, despite a mountain of other evidence that Celts derived from southwestern Europe. For the idea of the south German “Empire of the Celts” to survive as the orthodoxy for so long has required determined misreading of texts by Caesar, Strabo, Livy and others. And the well-recorded Celtic invasions of Italy across the French Alps from the west in the 1st millennium BC have been systematically reinterpreted as coming from Germany, across the Austrian Alps.

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/features/mythsofbritishancestry

all of europe is germanic and therefore german

all european achievements are GERMAN achievements by GERMANS who refuse to accept they are GERMAN

>>1446861
They're blatantly Latin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_peoples