Lets get some alt history maps. Im feeling like a good dose of stupid.

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>the louisianan-arkansanian-missourian-kansan-nebraskan-montanan-idaho-oregonian-washingtonian federation
>three new world powers + china alliance
>mega france with disgusting borders
>similar colors makes for a disgusting and hard to read map
>broken germany

Look at MY map instead
prediction for 2050-2060

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A dystopia based on the modern alt-right

>New religious movements have become popular, particularly the Cult of Kek and the Redpill Church. The Cult of Kek, arising out of an online meme, believes that through the use of "meme magic"

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Pretty intrestring situation where the cuban missle crisis expoled into full blown war. Looks good and the contrating maps make it fun

>>1432406
http://rvbomally.deviantart.com/art/The-Day-of-the-Rope-598727029?offset=25#comments

7/10 author has not predicted the state of india's toilet use loo situation

>>1432284
what the fuck do the colors mean asshole

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>>1432230

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>>1432749

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>>1432752

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>>1432758

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>>1432760

>>1432760
>the North Sentinel Islands
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THAT?

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>>1432770
Those are the Maldives, or in this map the Diva Isles.

>>1432406
>>1432475
>>1432230
Does anyone have the template these are based on? Bonus points for that tortuous font, I want to make my own cringe althistory map.

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>>1432230

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>>1432796

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>>1432805

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>>1432807

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Nice, these are always nice. I've saved some more maps since the last thread.

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Yes, some of the new maps I saved are good old nazi victory maps.

>>1432807
This is the nicest blank map I've ever seen.

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>>1433518
Here's a smaller one.

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And some more colour schemes that I like.

>>1432284
why would usa want anything to do with mexico, thats literally going to war to take poverty and crime

>>1432406
As opposed to what? SJW dystopia?
Altright are a bunch of faggots with zero influence or popularity among the normal population.
>Inb4 but it SJWsm isn't either
Would be like saying there aren't many islamics just because wahabbi isn't popular.

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>>1433797
Here's the map of the opposite scenario. I can post a higher resolution map from the post you replied to.

>>1432230
as if mexico wouldn't take all the rockies to alaska. iberia v siberia global stage

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Here's a cool concept.
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>>1432739
Kek

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>>1433876
>200 years of space flight
>these massive as fuck populations on literally every single moon

What even magical mcguffin memes allow this.

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>>1434149
This is a good one.

>>1434125
Since the Germans took over they probably have breeding programs or they deported people or something.

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the ultimate truth.

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>>1434208
2bh I would support this

>>1432801
whats the name of this game?

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>>1434265
Hearts of Iron 3

>>1434289
thank you man

>>1432807
I actually really like this...could just stare at the rivers forever

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>>1432760
i fixed a couple mistakes you may have made :v)

>>1436057
>Polish-Hungarian Commonwealth

I chuckled

>>1433668
>hot boomerang action

>>1433876
>Indo-Asian Condominium
Must be a big one.

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Art book for a game called Scythe about post-WWI Eastern Europe with mechs.
I was kinda pissed, Crimea should control most of Ukraine, Poland the baltics, and saxony shouldn't have so much past the rheine.

>>1437791
The factory is where Tesla builds mechs btw.

>>1435326
the alliances in europe are basically irl, except for half of russia

>>1435326
>hapsburg lands
what

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>>1438093
If I remember correctly, the Strasserite faction is supposed to be in charge and Germany is far more decentralised.

>>1432793
wtf

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>>1441580

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>>1432738

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>>1441585

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>>1437282
Impressive shitpost

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Just dropping a template I consider good, because I am a know-nothing degenerate who uses MS Paint for shit like this and does even know which program you guys are using to successfully complete what you've uploaded.

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>>1442345
Download Paint.NET for a MSPaint 2.0 with a lot more functions.

>>1439780
FUCK SIBERIA

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>>1444262
kek, is that islam in Sweden?

>>1444321
and Ireland it looks like.

>>1441598
>This will never be true

>>1432738
kek at Lithuania's straight borders.

10/10, impressively disgusting.

>>1433874
>putting New York in New England
people who do this should have a nun spank them, its so retarded.

>>1445141
Thank you

t. NYC

>>1437282
???
What did you change? All I see are two pictures of the Roman empire.

>>1445091
>Socialist State of Wales
>Greater Manx
>Balkanised Gibraltar
Thanks for the keks, anon

>>1441580
>unironically calling it "viking" empire
>not knowing what viking means
like saying cowboy empire or ninja state

>>1432738
looks like an ynaemp civ v game

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>cowboy empire
Sounds bretty gud tbqh. I guess pic is related.

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>this will never be reality

Requesting united states of Liberia

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>>1432478
>United Kingdom

>>1436057
that was a map made by tumblr

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>>1452565
This would be good if the resolution didn't suck so much.

>>1432284
Guyana is not going to get annexed

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Bumping to bring this thread from the death bed.

any good blank templates?

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>>1455330
See >>1432805>>1432807
>>1432809
>>1433529
>>1433532
>>1433534
>>1433537
>>1433545

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I found this one just now.

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Goddamn, this is tedious. I can't imagine how much time people spend to make something like this: >>1432765

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>>1456105
Here's a base map that makes it easier.

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>>1456105
>>1456125
Sorry, wrong map.

>>1456125
>>1456129
These are great, thank you !

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>>1456200
No problem.

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>>1456600
I suppose this is a Venice empire of some sort?

>>1456630
Actually in my fantasies it's a french empire around 1830, they just moved the capital to a more central point.

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>>1456669
>around 1830
Kek, I can imagine the angry Venetians.

>>1432406
>Rhodesians behaving like slave masters from a Spike Lee joint
No, sir, I don't like it!

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>>1445091
>That map of Gibraltar near the bottom left
I shouldn't be laughing so hard

>>1432796
The font is 04b03. http://www.dafont.com/04b-03.font

>>1432738
triggered

Aw, man. Just started getting into this. I actually started making a world map of it with one of the templates ITT (since the main one available online seems either inaccurate or outdated, but still not quite done placing Mitteleuropa/German puppets). Started my first full playthrough two days ago, and am currently playing a syndicalist, Pancho Villa-led Mexico who has just annexed Huey Long's state and the puny holdings left to the American federal government. Am now in a sort of cold war with the Combined Syndicates for the position of eventual senior partner among the western hemisphere socialist states. This game makes me really happy.

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>>1432230
Napoleon dies in 1811, Davout takes over as regent, manages to negotiate a truce, this is what the world looks like 200 years later

>inb4 the Australian state lines are identical

Didn't feel like erasing them

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>>1432793

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From a story+map written and posted on another website:

>Germany gets lucky in 1941-42, manages to defeat the USSR
>Western Allies have to finish off Japan before invading Europe (can't afford to split their forces like they did in real life, because the Soviets are gone)
>Meanwhile Hitler carries out Generalplan Ost and completes the Holocaust
>Allies finally launch their invasion on the late 40s
>chemical weapons are used on both sides
>several nuclear bombs are finally used on Germany
>War ends, Germany divided up into about two dozen small military districts
>The "Atomic Four" (USA, UK, Canada, Australia) essentially run the world as brutal global peacekeeping/police force for the rest of the century

>>1447013
That honestly sounds radical.

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>>1432230

Found it some time ago. There are some things that I would correct.

>>1462722
You got Nova Scotia and Acadia backwards pal.

>>1460554
Actually just noticed this one's off, too, since Spain is supposed to control the Mediterranean coast of Morocco.

And also this: >>1461631 was supposed to have been a reply t: >>1460554.

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Here's a map with provinces so one can make more unique shaped nations.

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>>1467167
here's a euro-centric one

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>>1467167
Here's an improved version

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>>1467167
For what it's worth, I always thought the EU map was nicer because it has less geometric provinces.

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>>1432230

>>1437033
how do people make these great maps?

>>1471336

MS Paint

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>>1432230

>>1471336
Illustrator or Inkscape. Basically any drawing program using vectors.

>>1447013
>implying you wouldn't want to live in Knightland or Cyborg City

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>>1471622

>Catalonia independent
Good

>Estelada instead of Senyera
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG

<<<<< Pic related is OUR FLAG

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>>1432284
>free tibet

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What do you guys think of this dose of stupid? I started making it up last night, and have only got as far as tentative placements/basic scenarios for Russia and its network of major allies.

>>1472011
>Canada losing Vancouver Island
>United Bolivarian Andean Nations not having re-taken Arica from Chile
>Quebec having parts of English-speaking Canada, but not French New England
>not filling in China and giving them Taiwan
I'm also curious to see what's going on with Syria, Libya, and Nigeria.

>>1472011
>Quebecois Maritimes, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and PEI
over our dead irradiated fucking bodies

>>1472495
Thanks for the input, I'll look into the Arica situation. I'm a fucking newb at Latin American history still. Although based on my ~24 hours or so of making up this world, I don't at present envisage UBAN as being aggressively expansionistic. Bolivarianism is probably not exactly the rising star it was in Chávez's day any longer. Also have no idea what's going on with Chile itself just yet.

Canada losing Vancouver was actually deliberate, although not totally sure if I'll keep things that way. The U.S. is probably going to be somewhat divided up (though not to the extremes seen in maps like this one >>1468756), and I was thinking of Vancouver going to an independent Cascadian state; possibly with some of B.C. as well, although the province boundaries on the template I was using didn't allow for splitting up mainland B.C., and I didn't feel like drawing things in this early.

China definitely has Taiwan, as you said, I just haven't filled them in yet.

I am leaning strongly toward keeping a fairly intact, recuperating United States as a major country, just with the loss of a few border states that are going off their own way now. Definitely everything bordering the Pacific, probably Texas as well; at least that much. I'm not too sure where New England stands right now. I somewhat doubt Quebec will end up with any of it, but I guess I could slice off a little bit of Maine for them. The granting of Anglophonic territories to Quebec was intentional, although I'll admit I had no well-thought-out reason for it, aside from the convenience of territory contiguity and some as-yet vague ideas about the Russians preferring to have a fairly strong Quebec to play off against their Canadian ally as needed. There's definitely a sense of revanche in Canada right now. (I forgot to write this in the description, but the Russians are presently pushing quite hard for Alaska's full incorporation into their Federation, and TOO strong of a Canada could interfere with that.)

>>1472495
As for those countries presently being ravaged by Salafists, the furthest I have gotten in thinking about how the Middle East gets from now to 2040s is that by the time this map is set, there has probably been a strong secular (which is not to say irreligious/atheistic) backlash against the fundamentalism, at least in an arc from Turkey down to Egypt, and maybe even further out into the Maghreb. If that idea takes root, it probably will not account for Nigeria, though. I have a really hard time picturing that place as anything other than Muslim-as-fuck by the 2040s.

>>1472613
>Although based on my ~24 hours or so of making up this world, I don't at present envisage UBAN as being aggressively expansionistic.
Fair enough, but considering its been a major territorial issue between Bolivia/Peru and Chile, it would be the first thing on their list in a scenario where Peru and Bolivia are united, Chile's American ally is gone, and the EF is able to provide even a minor level of support.

Just in case you're unaware, Vancouver isn't on Vancouver Island: they're two places named after the same explorer. An independent Vancouver Island or Vancouver, on their own, wouldn't be viable.

>>1472693
Yep, I'm aware of the Vancouver vs. its island namesake stuff. Been up to Vancouver once, and Victoria a couple of times. I do see I left out "Island" in writing that paragraph, though; not sure if typo or slip in thought process from thinking about some mainland B.C. going over to Cascadia. The island wouldn't be its own state, it would be annexed by a little PNW American breakaway.

And actually reading about the disputes involving Chile you mentioned over the last hour or so, I'm inclined to think you're right about that issue. Will have to determine what went on in Chile, but I guess it'll either have been begrudgingly ceded out of a position of weakness, seized in a brief military action, or still an undecided point of tension between the two states at the time the map takes place. Thanks for schooling me on that one.

>>1473052

>Normandy, Gascony, and Catalonia together

One can agree or disagree with Brit supremacy.

But I can say, with confidence, that whoever did this map is probably a very learned person.

Great map.

>>1432738
this makes me feel very uncomfortable

>>1432738

This is the pinnacle of butthurt-inducing maps

>>1432758
Aren't these the three "superstates" from 1984?

>>1474398
Yes

>>1475572
>Manitoba Territory barely contains any part of Manitoba
>Peru isn't in Peru
>Antilles ignoring the Greater Antilles
I can't think of any POD that would make people fuck up names like that.

>>1475585
Well, shit...

>>1475585
>Arab Republic
wew
>United Arabs
WEW
>United Arab Republic
I know this is the alt-his thread but let's try to stay realistic.

>>1432738
>berlin is greek
>literally ireland is an island of stripped countries
>jewish turkey
>coastal switzerland
>kosovo is not a dot
>andorra is not a dot
>luxembourg is not a dot
>liechestein is not a dot
>straight borders in europe
>AH barely owns hungria
>AH-polish border
>croats, slovaks, moldavians, albanians and BELARIC united
>yugoslavia is barely slavic
>spain is not catalonia or aragon
>greek africa

i litteraly felt sick watching this map for a while

>>1477025
Those are some sad borders. Also, Styria for some reason lost the southern portion but annexed Carinthia, which doesn't make any sense.

>>1475578
>American Africa
(w)ew

>>1477025
>that google translate

Embarrassing

>>1432230
That's impressive, starting with nonsense right off the bat. The Quebecois are a completely different group of French Canadians than the ones who ended up in Louisiana. Acadians and Quebecois have very little to do with each other historically or culturally, they just both came from France originally.

>>1432406
>Cascadia is Aryan
Aw yiss

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r8 mup pls

>>1480142
Crusader Kings/10

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>>1480142

>Barcelona mentioned
>Is a state

Comfy

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>>1472011
>>1472495
>>1472534
Second take on this dealio. State/province-boundary lines have been left in for easier revising in the future, so I won't have to repaintify the whole thing again.

• Suggestions about UNAB have been worked in. Does that look more or less right? (I tried to err on the side of Chile losing too much rather than too little territory relative to current disputes.)

• The Northern Alliance no longer exists. The two darker shades of brown now represent allies in limited association with the EF, at varying points along the path of integration into the federation: Poland, Romania (which has absorbed Moldova; Transnistria is already in the EF, which was also true in the first map, although possibly not apparent without province lines), Bulgaria, and Ukraine over in Europe, and Alaska at the other end of the federation. UNAB, the Bangsamoro Republik, and the Islamic Republic remain Russia's major extraregional allies thus far.

• Canada is one again! Rather than being outright defeated and reorganized by Russia, they drew up a separate peace with the Eurasian powers early in the war and left the Western alliance. As a result, they didn't get too fucked up, and are actually doing fairly well for themselves. They've pretty much shaken off the stereotype of "America, Jr." and become a major western hemisphere power in their own right. France has Saint Pierre and Miquelon again, though.

[Approaching character limit, continued in next post.]

>>1480156
• A first take on the much-reduced U.S.A. and its main alliance network is now on the map. The territories left to the federal government itself are in light blue. A fairly chaotic civil war (of which I haven't yet worked out the details) resulted in three breakaway states: Texas (with Arkansas, Kansas, and Oklahoma), Florida, and a massive state in the west stretching from the Rockies to the Pacific. The EF also granted independence to Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico (with both the British and U.S. Virgin Islands), and helped negotiate the return of Arizona and New Mexico to Mexico. The U.S. is still pushing a capitalist world-system, but the internal revolution has changed the nature of it somewhat. Neoconservatism as an ideology is essentially dead, although its ghost lives on somewhat in a spirit of nationalist-imperialist American revanche. Some of the weird Libertarian-leaning ideologies in the United States underpinned at least some elements of the revolution, and have probably become more mainstream, though I'm not too sure what these look like in the 2040s compared to today. A lot of the old financial elite probably fled to and set up shop in Canada during the war. Canada is also probably the new center of big-budget entertainment for Anglophonic countries.

• The middle shade of blue represents states which I'm considering putting into direct military alliance with the U.S.A.
1. - Florida, which did not break violently away from the country during the war, but prudently split off to avoid being invaded as a wave of pro-Texas armies and conservative fervor swept through the south and it looked for a moment as though there may be a new Confederacy. It has remained in close association with the United States, shares their currency, and has integrated the Bahamas and a few former British holdings.
[Continued in next post.]

>>1480224
2. - Colombia, with which Costa Rica and Panama have entered voluntary union out of fear of both Mexico and Venezuela. The Americas are starting to look like the major hotspot for war in this era so far. At least Brazil, Venezuela, and the U.S.-Florida-Colombia axis are vying for control in the Caribbean, and the U.S.-led axis and Mexico are vying for Central America, and both the U.S. and Mexico presumably hope to eventually annex the independent Texan state.

3. - Democratic Union of aṣ-Ṣarq al-Aswaṭ, an overwhelmingly Turkish-dominated federal republican state in the Middle East. The Salafist revolution was basically defeated, and the pendulum swung back toward secular democracy for the ideological movement that swept through the next generation in the region. Probably still a lot of rampant corruption, and increasingly critical problems with supplying adequate water to an enormous population, but it's not a wartorn shithole any longer. They are probably more or less a Western-style, capitalistic state, but the main reasons for their alliance with the U.S. are the geopolitical ones of their proximity to the Islamic Republic and the EF. Surprisingly, I think Israel will still exist in this world, albeit with major loss of territory and having to suffer the existence of a neighboring, proper Palestinian state. I'm thinking the DUSA and Canada (to which a lot of the old Jewish-American lobby fled) are it's main guardians at this point. Israel likely fought in and lost a war in the Middle Eastern theater during the last World War, and is seen as much less of a thorn in the side of the Islamic world now, although older people in the region who lived through the old days retain a great deal of resentment toward it. DUSA's existence as a major stable power not pushing an overtly religious agenda there helps secure their future a bit. Most of the Israeli elites have probably long since fled the country anyway.
[Cont. in next post.]

>>1480291
4. - United South African Republic. A strong, stable, democratic African power, with a standard of living now approaching First World. A major tourism destination for people all around the world. Rampant crime problems have essentially been solved, and I have somewhat arbitrarily decided that HIV has been cured in this world merely to boost the image of this state. A lot of billionaires and megacorporations, most of them still of foreign origin, now call this place home. Africa as a whole probably has fewer and bigger states, and is considerably less subject to neocolonial activities from without now that the old Western power bloc has been knocked out for the moment. I am thinking that Brazil, which is now a major world power, is probably increasingly starting to see the west and south of Africa as being in its sphere of influence, though, and the South African alliance with the U.S. is partly an axis against Brazilian soft-expansion into Africa.

• The states dyed in dark blue are not military allies of the United States, but are considered reliable partners to it, and are places where strong semblances of the old capitalistic world system are in place and thriving to varying degrees.
1. - Royal Congress of Arabia, a loose confederation of the Gulf monarchies (which now include a finally unified, peaceful, and recovering Somalia, and Yemen in its traditional role of subordination to its mightier neighbors). Still essentially trying to function on the models that made them so successful in decades past, but there are increasingly existential problems emerging (less demand for oil as alternative energy sources come into wider use, and short supply of fresh water), to which the ruling elites basically do not have good solutions.

(Continued in next post.)

>>1480361
2. - Commonwealth of Australia. New Zealand left ANZUS as the World War threatened to break out, but Australia fought on the Western side. They went remarkably unpunished by the victorious side, despite being one of the last states to surrender. Their continent was never made into a theater of the war, and they were left with all of their antebellum territorial holdings. The dominant conservative factions in Australian politics are increasingly concerned about rising Indonesian and, especially, Chinese influence in their country, and about the large and growing percentage of its citizenry being ethnically descended from these places. Australia is becoming very nationalistic.

3. - Canada. Already described pretty well in various spots above.

Plox 2 be criticize my dumb map again.

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My dream europe

>>1480398
needs more roman empires

>>1480156
>Suggestions about UNAB have been worked in. Does that look more or less right?
Yeah, looks better than before. I'd think the UBAN might have some ideas about taking back Acre from Brazil, but it'd take a combination of an aggressive UBAN and weak Brazil that just doesn't seem likely in the immediate future of your timeline.

Canada makes more sense now, and I'm just waiting to see what you do with China, as they're still the dragon in the room, so to speak.

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Anyone here generous enough to point out some basic guidelines or rules-of-thumb to keep in mind when designing an alt-his setting?

you all have horrible autism

>>1480568
More like bad ass autism.

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>>1480398
>ostrogothic Italy

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>>1480533
Avoid ridiculous wanks
Try to avoid the standard cliches (what if the Nazis won? What if the confederates won?) that have already been done to death
Do a lot of reading about the actual historic events before you change them
Always remember logistics is the most important part of any military campaign, so no marching Roman legionaries across the Himalayas to invade Han China
With no exceptions of any kind, absolutely no successful Operation Sealion

It's ok not to have the most realistic events happen just for the sake of a cool scenario or map, just be upfront about it.

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>>1480156
>>1480459
Alright, here's a go at China. The People's Republic of China is in dark green. They boast far and away the world's largest economy (although it is, for the most part, domestically oriented), and were the second major combatant on the victorious side in the last World War. With the Eurasian Federation, they are by most accounts ranked as one of the two overall most powerful countries on Earth.

Having emerged victorious in the war, all of the outstanding Chinese territorial disputes have been resolved, all to its favor with the exception or Aruṇācal Pradeś, to which it formally relinquished its claims during postwar negotiations with India (India in return gave up its claims to Aksāī Cin; India, surprisingly, fought on the same side as China during the war, albeit in a limited capacity, and mostly as an excuse to finally bring things to a decision with Pakistan, since all hell was breaking loose anyway). Taiwan, all of the Spratleys, all of the and Paracels, the Ryuukyuus southwest of Okinawa, Jeju, and Tsushima are all now in Chinese hands.

Contrary to much paranoia early in the century about the inevitably of a Chinese world-hegemon, they have not shown much desire to be a globally active militaristic power since the war ended. They have mostly been focusing on consolidating their gains, integrating Taiwan, and building a new postwar Chinese-controlled system in Southeast Asia. Relations between China and the EF have been growing less warm since the war ended, but thus far, they are in no danger of becoming antagonistic. China has made quite clear the boundaries of its sphere of influence nowadays. It expects the other world powers not to meddle in it too much, and they don't. If China's destiny is to rule the world, it is in no great hurry to get there, though once it has achieved it's next round of geopolitical aims (probably within the relatively near future), it can surely be expected to set it sights further afield.
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>>1481634
The states in the middle shade of green are part of the Chinese-led Southeast Asian Security Coalition. Cambodia should actually be that shade as well, I apparently dyed it wrong (and seem to have brought the thread to image limit with the last post). The main perceived rivals to this coalition are the vanquished U.S. allies in the region: the Philippines, Thailand, Japan, and South Korea. These countries all HATE China right now; all of them were directly invaded by the Chinese during the war, and suffered greatly because of it. Thailand and the Philippines are resisting the Chinese regional dominance, but at present they have no real backers aside from, to an extent, each other, and Chinese diplomatic meddling has kept even that from amounting to much. There is hope of support from India in due time, but thus, India has not dared risk escalation in its relations with China. Japan and South Korea, on the other hand, have bounced back from their defeat, put aside their longstanding differences, and now constitute a formidable and aggressive bilateral alliance; it is the main security concern of both China and the EF.

The states in light green represent other members in the Chinese government's plans for an Asian-Pacific economic union, similar in some ways to what the Eurasian Economic Union was prior to its full political integration into a single state. In addition to the allies in its military treaty, it plans to include North Korea, Indonesia, Hawaii, and Australia in this union.

Concerning Korea: the North was a cobelligerent of the Chinese and Russians during the war. Many in both China and Russia saw this as more of a nuisance than an asset, as the Eurasian victory gave the North Koreans the right to bring some of their demands to the table postwar with the serious expectation of having them addressed — and, ultimately, no one on any side other than the North Koreans themselves saw it as possible or desirable to unify the peninsula under Juche.

>>1481663
North Korea was granted Japanaese and ROK holdings in the Sea of Japan, and the border with the ROK was extended a bit further southward, along with assurances that a Korean reunification would be worked toward, but that this would take time to accomplish yet. The Korean problem is actually one the Chinese and Eurasians wish to see resolved, however, and China has basically been spearheading longterm-looking efforts to achieve it, mostly by a gradual process of opening up the North to the outside world a bit more. North Korea is much less isolated at this point, and is, by degrees, starting to accept foreign ideas and get away from being a fanatical Juche state. In some ways, the roles of the Koreas have been reversed, as the South is actually now seen as a more radical and belligerent state with aims to militarily annex the North, while the North is slowly being rendered more moderate under Chinese influence. Nonetheless, there remains a strong sense of disillusionment in North Korea, the feeling that they were conned out of their rightful spoils of war by their supposed allies, and deep frustration and resentment at the increasingly apparent fact that what they gained out of the war was not worth anything like the effort and resources that were put into it.

As said above, Australia's government is currently conservative and has a nigh McCarthyan aversion to all that is Chinese. But there is a growing ethnic Chinese population in the country, and China actively meddles in Australian domestic politics in an effort to steer them into their camp. The masterminds of the Asian-Pacific Economic Union project hope to move Australia's political compass sufficiently in their direction to have them ready to be a founding member of the union once the treaty is ready to be signed, and they have every expectation that they will be successful.

>>1481691
I also ended up deciding that the British Indian Ocean Territory ought to go to India rather than the EF, hence why it is no longer in their colors on this map.

Final note: Kiribati, Nauru, and most of the other currently un-dyed Pacific island states are now under the direct administrative control of New Zealand, but most of the Pacific states and territories, including those under EF control, are essentially depopulated disaster-relief zones right now. Australia, the EF, and New Zealand are members of a cooperative treaty to deal with the consequences of rising sea level in the Pacific. The EF has a similar relationship with India in the Indian Ocean, and the Maldives and Seychelles are now under control of the Indian government. A lot of the islands on this map do not actually exist anymore, including some of the ones that have already been dyed.

I liked this thread. Can we do new thread, or has everyone had their fill by now?

>>1482855
I prefer when these threads don't pop up too often but my folder still has a lot of other maps so if you create another thread I'll post there.

>>1478228
what else were they going to do?