What was wrong? Who to blame? Is there any hope?

>>1385755
>What was wrong?
ottoman conquest

>Who to blame?
turks

>Is there any hope?
it's all ogre

>>1385755
Is it a thing to make this question every Friday?

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/1356814/
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/1358446/

TL;DR: Fragmentation from having three completely different sources of influence (Ottoman Istanbul, Moscow and Rome/the West) for ~500 years, ~200 years of Ottoman stagnation while occupying them, buying into the Pan-Slavist meme, ~60 years of communism, and corruption.

>>1385802
Nice memeing.

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>>1385755
>What was wrong?
Ottomans and Crusaders.
>Who to blame?
Greece for not paying their denbts.
>Is there any hope?
No. There was a chance 100 years ago, but the eternal anglo didn't like it.

>>1385755
>What was wrong?
Turkey
>Who to blame?
Turkey
>Is there any hope?
No
>why?
Turkey

>>1385849
>>1385952
>>1385802
.>>1385849
history my ass .