MONGOLS

>it's a "why do people idolize [popular Civilisation], they were assholes"

Because Mongols are interesting as hell. They're history's biggest one hit wonder so far.

They killed a large number of Chinese and Arabs, thus paving the way for Western civilization based on democracy and rule of law to become the global standard.

They were even nice enough to create trade networks to connect the bubonic plague from its source in China to Europe, so that Europe's old social structure would be demolished and the Enlightenment could happen.

Because they didn't manage to really fuck up any western civilizations. Muslims and Chinese still have reason to be butthurt about Mongols, but Westerners don't.

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>>1366726
Civilization is for gays Tbh

>>1366956

Chinese and many other Asians actually view Genghis as a great conqueror like Alexander though. They're not butthurt.

>>1366962
Do they feel that way about Kublai though?

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what you're about to hear is part 4 of a 7562345 part series on the amazing memengol conquest in the memeages

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part IV of WRATH OF the cunts

>>1366980
You must be a real hoot at parties.

>>1366959
is this natty or soviet roids?

It's creepier when people say /nice/ things about European empires than when people say /awesome/ things about the Mongol empires.

>>1366980
If there is any point you should take away from Hardcore History and blow the rest off as a giant waste of breath and wish death upon Carlin, it's that this meme-tastic view of history on great conquerors is pretty accurate.