What can you tell me about Vichy France, /his/?
From the little I know, some Vichy supporters went great lengths to support Germany, particularly opportunistic bootlickers like Robert Brasillach who published the names of Jews and members of La Résis. Brasillach shared Charles Maurras's contempt for republicanism. Fascists opposed Pétain on grounds of failing to sufficiently collaborate with Germany. Those French national parties who sought to achieve the type of National revolution seen in Italy/Spain/Germany considered Vichy too tame, leading to the country's leaders fearing nationalist radicals would try to seize power from Pétain on account of his poor health.
Other conservatives saw the fall of the Third Republic as an opportunity to start fresh, stamp out corruption and rejuvenate society under Pétain, whose personality cult was well entrenched as a well known and beloved figure since WWI. Some were patriotic German-hating WWI vets who thought Pétain was doing his best to preserve France, angered by both de Gaulle's and the Brits' perceived desertion. Among them were even a few who thought about getting back into the fight.
A common debate is whether Pétain was a traitor, a senile figurehead puppet for Laval or merely a well-intentioned veteran working with a dire set of circumstances. The discussion is quite controversial, as Éric Zemmour caused a furor by upholding the pro-Pétain thesis. Zemmour also pointed out that Vichy actually saved Jewish lives. His statement is based on the deal Vichy France made with Germany that it would assist the deportation of immigrant Jews, in exchange for which French Jews be granted immunity. While Vichy aided in the Holocaust, France had the lowest Jewish death rate of any occupied country aside form Denmark.
So, tell me, /his/. What do you think of Vichy France?
>>1263178
I'm interested, too.
Have a bump.
>What do you think of Vichy France?
Best France.
Was arguably a much more legitimate government than De Gaulle's. It's also pretty amazing how much rein the Germans gave them, I guess they didn't care/have the resources to completely dominate France.
I'd love to see a miniseries of the French fighting on the Eastern Front, ending with the battle of Berlin.
>>1264818
>>1264818
It's a bit of a sad situation. You're right about it having more legitimacy immediately after the armistice, but it was effectively a government without any true authority. Germany's influence across France, and the collaborators appeals to their authority, consistently undermined any attempt to establish a functional government. Vichy France could never have achieved the national revolution (or reformation, if you asked Pétain) they desired.
>>1265293
What were the forces preventing that from happening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7P2HkUTl0
A lot of leftist influence in this regime, despite the propaganda.
>>1267050
Subtitles or translations, please
>>1268152
I'm to lazy to translate, but main ideas
>A large part of French collaboration came from socialistes, antiracists, pacifist (what Americans would call "liberals"), even pro-Jewish.
>main political figures in the Vichy regimes were socialistes or came from socialist parties
Pierre Laval, the prime minister
Pierre Drieu, Jean Luchaire, Jacques Drriot propaganda and so on
A source is this:
Un paradoxe français, Antiracistes dans la Collaboration, antisémites dans la Résistance
by Simon Epstein
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_paradoxe_fran%C3%A7ais
But sadly no English version.
It's in some way similar to how Democrats used to be KKK at some point.