babel

>>1238705
It's about pride.

Its about bronze age desert tribe trying to understand world around it

>>1238705
Not much of a story really. Only a couple of lines if I'm not mistaken.
I'm pretty sure it was just an attempt to explain why there are so many languages and new people keep showing up no matter how far people look.

God wants us to be unhappy and impotent, so He created an obstacle to us achieving anything significant to improve our situation. Luckily He's dead now, so we can build skyscrapers or whatever else we want.

>>1238756
This is the answer you are looking for mon ami

>>1238705
it's an explanation as to why different languages exist and that god cannot be reached physically.

it's not that complex senpai

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>>1238777

>>1238777

This is the correct answer.

It is just a bunch of goat-herders making up silly stories.

It's an allegory about the dangers of arrogant ignorance.

>>1238813
As an Atheist, this is true. Religion has really helped us develop and understand the world. Thing is that we don't need it anymore, and it's more of a problem than a solution. It's like a tailbone; used to be useful but now we don't need it and you can really hurt it.

Reminder that the story NEVER says any of the following
*The people wanted to reach heaven
*God in anyway told people the tower was a bad idea before construction began

>>1238705
enki changed mens languages, enlil sent the flood. duality.

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>>1238874
>we don't need it anymore, and it's more of a problem than a solution
just lol

>>1238921
You think these degenerates can't physically be other religions? If there were no Atheism, these people would still exist as cancer with the exception of anti-theists. On the flipside there wouldn't be anti-theists if everybody was an atheist.

>>1238921

>In 1933, prior to the annexation of Austria into Germany, the population of Germany was approximately 67% Protestant and 33% Catholic; Jews made up less than 1% of the population.[1] A census in May 1939, six years into the Nazi era[2] and incorporating the annexation of mostly Catholic Austria into Germany, indicates that 54% considered themselves Protestant, 40% Catholic, 3.5% self-identified as "gottgläubig" (lit. "believers in god", often described as predominately creationist and deistic),[3] and 1.5% as non-religious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

>>1238756
Oh, just yesterday I was in Vienna, visiting an exhibition about the "treatment" of children interned in mental hospitals. Ice-cold tubs of water, bindings, organized starvation, outright euthanasia...
One of the survivors explained how it worked.
>Everytime time a child would start to rise, to blossom into something
>every time he would start thinking that there was something about him, that he was able to do things
>then immediately they would push him down, and try to break him
>and to let him know that he belonged there, on the ground
Is that the same idea ?

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>>1238959
Shoo shoo

>>1238988
>I'm a mentally ill atheist
Indeed.

>>1239050

I've never read a good collection of posts from 4chan posted as an image. I'm not going to read that and I immediately write anyone off that saves shit like that as a retard.

>>1239050

>/pol/fags throwing Hitler under the bus when he doesn't suit your bullshit narrative

Poor Adolf. Even his deluded fucktard followers abuse him

>>1239093
Who are you calling a "/pol/fag"?

>>1239095

You, since you probably got your DOOS VAULT bullshit from there

>>1239104
>your DOOS VAULT bullshit
What are you talking about?

>>1239055
>I support a sadistic, contemptful god
It's good to see it written down.

>>1239110

The edgier than thou contrarian role you play right now. The whole "I'm le contrarian traditionalist roleplaying as a hardcore Christian, while never tuning the other cheek" bullshit.

I can smell alt-right faggots like you from a mile away. Now, don't deny it when it isn't le hip and le cool anymore with the cool kids on the internet. Own your tremendous faggotry

>>1239124
Which posts have I made that indicate that I'm a "contrarian traditionalist roleplaying as a hardcore Christian, while never tuning the other cheek" and an "alt-right faggot" you biblically illiterate child?

>>1238705
God did so becauae the tower was built in defiance of God. It warns against Man's self worship. The next tower needs to be built with piety and humility before God.

>>1238921
>just lol

Yes, exactly, "just lol," because you can't argue, you can only meme.

>>1239133
>mad
lol

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>>1239124
Shut the fuck up /leftypol/, leave the neutral /his/torians out of this.

You fuckers are always so invasive, you have to shit up the board with your shit ideology and the majority doesn't fucking like it.

How about you go circle-jerk with your college friends to a painting of your hero who killed millions of innocents, Mr. Joseph Stalin and leave this board alone.

I'm tired of this, I'm tired of the stupid bullshit you fuckers put up here and I always have to fucking look at it.

>>1239139

Stalin did nothing wrong.

>>1239155
Yeah, killing 60 million of his people isn't wrong. Go away.

You don't belong here.

>>1239166

No one who thinks Stalin killed 60 million people belongs on /his/ because it is just plain historical illiteracy.

Modern estimates are closer to 10 million and it is well know they were cowards and traitors and famine victims after the kulaks stole all the food for themselves.

>>1239166
>i-it was a f-famine
>h-he only k-killed 20 million p-people
>*cartoon pigs*

>>1239185

Too slow.

>>1239124
Catholics =\ alt-right /pol/

>>1239180
This

Could you reactionary fucks get off of our website already? Go eat shit on stormfront.

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>>1239180

>>1239188

Not anymore, since Trump became the hip new fad on there.

I wonder how long it will take before all the edgy 4chan Catholics start denying any connection to /pol/ altogether and insist that they were really there to defend the Jews against all the nasty antisemites on there. My guess is probably about a year or two

>>1239180
60 million, 30 million, 10 million, what difference does it make, they're estimates. You can't really know for sure

Regardless he still killed innocents by sending them to the gulags and killing them in the Great Purge.

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>>1239194
Non-centrists leave

>>1239204
>Regardless he still killed innocents
but Stalin was perfect so everyone he had killed wasn't innocent, and any innocent that did die was killed by kulaks

>>1239204

>cowards and traitors
>innocent

>>1239220
>>1239221
No, Stalin killed anyone who he deemed a threat to his rule. He was very paranoid. And that could've meant anyone.

>cowards and traitors
Maybe in /leftypol/'s eyes. But the general /his/torian would not say that.

>>1239240

What's "/leftypol/"?

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>>1239256
Don't lie to me.

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>>1239264

You're a very strange fellow.

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>>1239203
I don't know why you seem to associate Catholics with /pol/ so much or even rightism at all.

While it's true that rightism and Catholicism go hand in hand somewhat more often than leftism and Catholicism, it's clear to most dedicated, informed, orthodox Catholics that - not to do a No True Scotsman - most Catholics who lean far-left or far-right are generally cultural Catholics or nominal Catholics rather than truly committed agents of the Kingsom of God. For example, it's really not very good for a Catholic to side with a temporal politician over the Pope, their spiritual leader. While many /pol/-type Catholics who do this are indeed, and do remain, Catholics, their not doing a very good job of acting the way they should were they properly informed by their faith and put God above everything else, as they should as Catholics.

I would go on to point out that Catholicism really lends itself to centrism more often than not, and not to extremism - look at the Zentrum party in the German Empire, for example.

Don't equate Deus Vulters with Catholics, they love the rad-traditionalism and medieval violence they associate with Catholicism more than Catholicism itself - if they really did put Catholicism first, they would be paying more attention to the current teaching of Pope Francis (which is not, contrary to popular misinformation, anything other than orthodox.) Most of the Catholics you find over at /pol/, especially nowadays, aren't exactly "this is my commandment to you: love one another, as I have loved you" types. Look, even Milo Yiannopoulos calls himself a Catholic. I'd say that he's a nominal Catholic at best, though Catholicism isn't an exclusive club, and is specifically for the imperfect and the sinners. Is he an representative of an ideal Catholic, or indeed of the vast majority of Catholics? The answer is, of course, no. Same goes for Trumpy /pol/ type Catholics. They're about as Catholic as the Vichy regime.

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>>1239272
Your feet are hairier than mine. I'd say you're the odd one in the bunch.

>>1239292
>I don't know why you seem to associate Catholics with /pol/ so much or even rightism at all.

It's not true in general, but it is true on 4chan, where "Catholics" are just LARPing reactionary kids.

>>1239323
Yes you will get that a lot, if they're young still they'll hopefully come around sooner or later if they follow their faith where it leads them.

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>>1239322

Don't be mean about my feet.

Pls don't bully.

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>>1239348
>proceeds to call me strange
>what am I supposed to do?
>be pushed?
>or push back?

What do you think was going to happen, Frodo?

>>1239366
Holy shit that fucking Gerbil, what website were those flash animations on? I still remember the meditation one where he told people to fuck off

>>1239370
http://joecartoon.com/

I do concur, it is a nice flash.

if by some misfortune christianity is still around a thousand years from now, the rms titanic would be the equivalent of the tower of babel in christian mythology

this anon has it right:
>>1238777

>>1239366

But you called me a liar for asking a question, that is what I called strange.

I still don't know what the hell "leftypol" is. I very rarely go on /pol/.

>>1238705
that if we all worked together as one we would become greater than the sum of all of us... or some shite like that...

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>>1239423
>you called me a liar for asking a question, that is what I called strange

Sorry I just thought you were... a liar.

>>1239423
No offense, and I'm not trying to seem like a /pol/ack because I'm not, but leftists often lie about their political affiliations.I've had first hand experience where they intentionally didn't understand something I said to them and immediately in front of their friends they betray me for having my beliefs.

>>1239423
/leftypol/ is /pol/'s counterpart on eightchan, and they're often shittier than /pol/ imo. I just thought you were something else other then a neutral /his/torian.

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>>1239489
They're colossally shittier than pol, and I say this as a syndicalist. The left is utterly incapable of effective memery. That kind of authoritarian, censored environment is unfunny by nature, I Think Zizek and >porky are all they have.

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>>1239489
/leftypol/ and /pol/ are two sides of the same radical millennial coin

>>1239505
>chesterton

CRYPTOCOMMIES GET OUT
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1239505
What are you supposed to be then, a Generation X moderate? You type like somebody who was born in 1960-1981 A.D.

>>1239398
>christian mythology
history*

>>1241321
>le genesis / flood / exodus was literal meme

wew

>>1241343
Not the first chapters of Genesis, the Flood probably did happen and as for Exodus, absolutely.

>>1241358
>as for Exodus, absolutely.
archeology says otherwise

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>>1241368
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae#Similar_practices_in_other_societies

>>1241371
how is that related?

>>1241399
2/10

>>1241358
>Flood probably did happen and as for Exodus, absolutely.

WEW

>>1238705

It's an etiological story the ancient Israelites came up with to explain why there are multiple languages in the world.

>>1241608
Is there an issue anon?

>>1241358
>>1241718
I'm a biblical arcahelogist, but don't take my word for it go read the journalist but nope, there is no 40 years of movement in Sinai.

Israelis are desperately trying to find evidence for it but to no avail. Most of exodus is just bullshit

Your only bet is some ancient alien tier documentaries which fit the unrelated-ambiguous evidence to the story.

I understand you are a believer but please don't talk about academic consensus, besides few fringe folk (just as those who refuse to believe jesus existed) academic consensus is clear, there is no such event as its described in exodus.

and its not some evul librul atheist conspiracy trying to put christians down, again israelis really try their hard to find evindence, for no avail. Even they gave up, but not the average american prottie.

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>>1241777
>there is no such event as its described in exodus
According to the current so-called "academic consensus".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biblical_figures_identified_in_extra-biblical_sources

>>1241796
You didn't read that did you?

http://saturniancosmology.org/jup.php#jup-j13

>>1238777
rogan pls go

>>1241833
>it was le planet!!!!1

>>1241926
There is no evidence for a mass exodus out of Egypt.

>>1241926

How can zero evidence be greater than anything?

>>1241948
>>1241371

>>1242014
That is not evidence for a mass exodus out of Egypt.

>>1242025
nice bait