Who is the more rightful successor of the Roman Empire, Italy or HRE?

italy has no real right except the same geographical area

>H>R>E

ERE is the only rightful successor

>>1060668
I'd argue France

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>>1060668
>the Trojan refugee Aeneas escape to Italy and found the line of Romans through his son Iulus, the namesake of the Julio-Claudian dynasty.

>>1060668

Lichtenstein.

>>1060685
Lel using Virgil as a sauce

>>1060670
>italy has no real right except the same geographical area

lolwut

The thing is, Byzantium/the ERE was the actual Roman Empire. Constantine made Constantinople his capital in the early 4th century. The Roman Empire lost most of its Western territories in the 5th century.

>>1060668
ETE were the only ones with commoners calling themselves Romans hundreds of years after the fall of the WRE.

>>1060668
The third reich.

>>1060810
This is beautiful

HRE
I mean COME ON
It's the spirit that counts.

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>>1060810
WE

>>1060810
We are all Romans now

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>>1061366
WUZ

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>>1061390
ROMANS

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>>1060668

>>1060668
The Byzantines. Anything else is German revisionism.

>>1060668

HRE was neither H nor R nor E

>>1060810
Goddamn, that's beautiful.

>tfw you will never proudly call yourself a Roman.

>>1061366
>>1061390
>>1061415
>still more Roman than a bunch of German barbarians

>>1060685
And Hector was a direct male-line ancestor of the Hapsburgs. :3

>>1060810
this does not seem like a completely unbiased testimony 2bh