The reason why Japan pornstars cry

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Often these girls are underage and don't even know they are going to be in a porn film until they show up to their fashion "photo shoot".

"In many cases, the group said, young women sign contracts with agencies without knowing they will later be pressured to have sex on camera." - Japan Times

Japanese men have always had a rape fetish, for what reason I don't know why. The girls "crying" during sex is a cultural thing. They've been doing so long before they were filming gangbangs and making porn contracts.

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“Victims are talked into signing things like a fashion modeling contract, or they are told they are going to be acting in a film,” Fujiwara says. “When they turn up on set, however, they are given a porn script and informed that it is a porn shoot. They beg to quit or to go home but the producers or studios threaten to charge them with millions of yen in penalties for ‘contract violations.’ They are used and disposed of like products, with long-lasting consequences on their schooling, careers and marriages.” - JP

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In March, Human Rights Now, a Tokyo-based advocacy group, said it was aware of a rising number of cases in which young women hoping to be models were pressured to take part in obscene or pornographic videos. - BBC

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Just to point out, I don't really mind any of this.This makes Japan Porn hotter for me personally.

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I used to find Japanese porn annoying for the crying because it was so fake. Now it seems like the crying could actually be more authentic.

>>1042670
I'm all for rape play but actual rape is fantastically repellent. It's not like there aren't tons of women who have a rape/dubcon kink and would be willing, just find one and have a safe word. Goddamn.

>>1042728
Well said!

>>1042672
The ex wife was a Jap. She sounded like a howling cat during sex just like the jav porn we all know so well. Almost crying like. It seriously freaked me out when we first fucked. Later I could handle it more, but to be honest, it was fucking annoying as hell after years of hearing that. I just think some Japanese women sound that way normally. However, everything said earlier about Japanese porn and models is dead on mark. So I suspect there is a mix of whiny sounding women and being in a shit situation.

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>>1042728
I have done more digging and actual rape is a bit extreme. It seems the feminist groups exaggerate it. It is more manipulation than rape. It is basically the same thing western porn studios do. Get a girl to become a model and then later on talk/bride/surprise her into doing hardcore porn. Almost half of Western porn studios do this. Rocco Siffredi admitted he likes to surprise models on set by making them do more extreme things than they expected or even wanted to do.

Look at what happened to Alina Li. That one Kink scene was out of her boundaries, so she quit.

>>1043135
Yes, actual rape is a bit extreme. It's what many western pornstars go through. Sign a deal then get pressured into things they wouldn't normally do. If it is rape than half of western pornstars are getting raped also - and any person who has a corporate job. Rocco Siffredi is a good example of what is going on. I find it hotter in the Siffredi kind of why. As I said, it is more authentic and interesting.

>>1043137
the problem is, women are incapable of taking responsibility for their own decisions. if a man is somehow involved at all, that man magically holds the most "gravity" in the situation.

>>1043138
That is a problem. If the girl feels shit about herself after the fact it's always the man's fault.

Any examples? I need scenes.

>>1043136
That's not at all why she quit. In her official statement, she said that she didn't think making porn would be so much actual work, and she got into it because she just genuinely likes sex. She was thinking about quitting for a while before that Kink scene, that was just the straw that broke the camels back.

>>1043348
Literally every Japanese porn scene you lazy faggot.

>>1042663
So what is the legal definition of rape in Japan? Damn. A "contract" is no excuse to rape girls.

Cooool! That turns me so on

>>1042663
Japanese porn just plain weird. Genitalia pixelated. #Why?

>>1043392
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Why+is+Japanese+porn+censored%3F

Sounds sad but that's why you don't sign something without reading the fine print.

I'm sure their tears dry up when the fat paycheck rolls around.

nice citations and sources m8

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>>1042670
You should enjoy yh Bakky films then. So bad the top dudes went to jail over it

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>>1044746
the CEO of a porn company (known as Bakky Visual Products) was sentenced to 18 years for essentially making actual rape porn.
Copy Pasta and Tl'd from JPN wiki,
The company is known as Bakky Visual and from 2004 to 2007 “Bakki Visual Planning” published a series of 17 pornographic movies in which they filmed encounters in which porn stars and amateur performers were only told they were to be appearing in a normal gravure or pornographic movie.
In fact they were dragged off and gang raped by the studio’s staff (and friends/relatives of staff), all of which was filmed and sold openly online.
Victims were variously drugged and forced to drink themselves into unconsciousness, and confined, beaten and subjected to various forms of torture (including one scene where a victim is almost thrown off a building), which in one case led to a potentially fatal rectal injury.
The producers apparently managed to cow their victims into believing they had signed a contract which made all this legal, and it was only when filming of the 17th and final movie collapsed with their victim managing to call police in to rescue her that authorities bothered to investigate.
After the usual scandal, police eventually brought a case against the company which saw most of the unrepentant perpetrators handed rape sentences ranging from 18 years in the case of the CEO to suspended sentences in the case of some of the performers whose only crime was to rape a porn star.
Although the company responsible has stopped selling the videos, it is still doing business under a different name. Several of the men who escaped charges continue to appear in pornographic films.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6

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>>1044765

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>>1043135

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>>1044800
And just when she thinks her ordeal is over.....

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>>1044831
...think again.

side note: this is th eend of one of th evids, but they do this in the middle to (and the beginning of course) let a woman think she can finally leave and when she opens the door, it's another group of guys and it begins all over again

>>1043138
your fedora is showing.

>>1042663
Maybe they just should have known what they signed and maybe they should have gotten a real job instead.

>>1044815
She used her teeth.

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To add to this, I'll say that nearly all of the Hypnosis JAVs are part of this too (and there are thousands of those). There are even incidents on camera in the fucking JAV where he hypnotises the girl into PAYING HIM $400 for the photo shoot after he fucked her 5 times without her even knowing. Cuz hypnosis is my fetish I overlook the... legalities... lets say of this whole area of JAV films but I wont deny it's a bit dodgy.

>>1044866
Well it's easy to say that but often a lot of these girls are also daughters or sisters of guys who owe the Yakuza money or who fucked the Yakuza over somehow. Yakuza run the entertainment industry too so they do lots of casting couch shit. It's pretty well known in Japan, people just turn a blind eye to it in the typical Japanese way that they do.

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>>1044835
This is the most disgusting thing I've seen on 4chan. Fuck all those men, I hope they get gang raped by a group of sentient jack hammers.

>>1044932
Pussy

>>1044933
Scum

>>1042728
This. Thank you.

>>1043138
If you must pressure or manipulate someone into sex it means they didn't want the situation to start with. Many girls do it because most (if not all) of the studios are full of men and men in the heterosexual porn industry are known to be giant assholes.
I'm not saying every single porn video works like that, but if you consume thinking the girls just "didn't like" extreme scenes where they couldn't stop crying... I've got some news for you.

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>>1043357
>In her official statement, she said that she didn't think making porn would be so much actual work, and she got into it because she just genuinely likes sex.

Yeah I bet. I love sex too but standing around on set naked while some guy adjusts the camera isn't much like actual sex.

>>1044925
Well that is just someones bad choise in life still.

In my country the russian mafia makes the rules and they often work through proxies. Well I know a dude that has a sister who was in debt to them. They came to the brother instead, took him in to te forest and gave him a loaded gun and showed him a blindfolded and tied man on his knees in the forest. They gave him two option shoot the man who owned them even more and take the blame or pay the debt with interest in few days. Don't know what he chose to do because I stopped him from speaking at that point for the sake of both of us. I only know now that he or his sister are not on debt anymore. A grown man was crying when telling me this so you might imagine what happened.

Two of my own relatives were stabbed to death for less.

You think police do anything about these things, no they do not have recources and usually someone inside gets a cut of the drug trade. Even the drugs that the cops confiscate ends up back in the street being sold by proxies.

So maybe the Japanese are not so bad huh?

That explains the whole,

>According to the Japan Times, a new survey of Japanese people ages 18 to 34 found that 70 percent of unmarried men and 60 percent of unmarried women are not in a relationship. It gets worse: Around 42 percent of men and 44.2 percent of women admitted that they were virgins.

>The study is carried out by Japan's National Institute of Population and Social Security Research every five years. The organization has noted a marked trend since its first foray on questions of relationships and sex in 1987, when it found that 48.6 percent of men and 39.5 percent of women surveyed were unmarried. In 2010, 36.2 percent of men and 38.7 percent of women in the 18-34 age bracket said they were virgins. The number of children among couples who have been married for between 15 and 19 years averaged a record low this year.

I don't have any rape pics to contribute.

>>1043429
YOu think if they are suckered out of ignorance into gangbangs they dont want to do that they are being well payed?

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Look, it's the same as other place in the world.
There are shady studios with questionable ethics in Japan like Bakky above.
But that doesn't mean that ALL Japanese porn are the same. Like everywhere else there are plenty of legit studios that only recruit willing girls. These companies like SOD or Hokuto are too big and well known to be involved in such case.

I don't deny that such shady practices happened in JAV industry, as that Bakky story is well known. But, don't just assume that every JAV production out there are the same. I'd say just minority of small studios that can't compete with bigger ones, and thus resorting to underhanded tactics.

Didn't a pregnant girl die in one of these movies?

>>1044835
No follow up on this scene? Come on! Please!

>gangrape, torture and almost drown people on camera
>still censor the dicks

Japan, everyone

>>1042664
>Often these girls are underage and don't even know they are going to be in a porn film until they show up to their fashion "photo shoot".
This vid she thought she was just doing a modeling shoot until the guys busted in:

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>>1042663
Btw, you know those vids where a women is drugged and then fcuked/molested while passed out? All aren't as fake as you think, either.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2937543/Over-100-drugged-raped-Japan-fake-clinical-study.html

http://www.hngn.com/articles/66274/20150203/japan-fake-doctor-drugged-raped-filmed-more-100-women-pretend.htm

This thread is now officially an SJW thread.

>>1045544
You're assuming most of the posters aren't getting off to the fact there's a chance what they are watching is real

wtf i hate jav now

>>1045546
I love it even more now

>>1042669
Sauce?

>>1045542

Most of the mainstream stuff (like what you just posted) are completely fake though.

>>1042663
I could never fuck a jap. Firstly their constant whiny bullshit crying is just annoying as fuck, like scraping your knife and fork on a plate. Secondly, how do you put your cock in when all you can see is a pixely cunt and ass? Surely they know enough about DNA to alter that by now?

>>1044767

Has anyone got any more stuff like this, where the girl is getting properly beaten? Doesn't have to be jap.

>>1044866
>exploiting someone who is unaware of their legal rights is morally and legally okay because fuck em' they're stupid whores who were never even explicitly taught their rights gotttem xD

This is why libertarianism and laissez-faire capitalism is fucking retarded

>>1045598
Butthurt much perhaps?

>>1045100
I'm very sorry that you're in that situation anon, but that doesn't justify your family or these girls or anyone getting fucked over like that just because your vad situation happens to be worse.

>>1045598
>implying rape is okay under libertarianism
Strawman

>>1045598
Yea how dare people be responsible for themselves. The government. Will do it. Better

Not even surprised at all desu. I'm Chinese and we know perfectly how fucked in the head most Japanese men are. Well, most Asian guys are pretty messed up, but Jap men take the cake in terms of perversion and disgusting behavior. At least Korean men beat their wives because they're drunks, not because they're sadistic like Japs.

>>1044749
>18 years in the case of the CEO
>suspended sentences in the case of some of the performers
leadership getting stiffer penalties than the low level people? have they not learned anything from America?

>>1044924
I've read that hypnosis can't actually make you do something you would not actually be willing to do otherwise. so what you're talking about is make believe.

This is what happens when a culture of savages des not receive harsh discipline for their degenerate customs.

Looks like it only took them 60 years to forget that if you act as an animal, you will be put down as one.

Time to fuel and arm the B-2's

>>1044835
Pretty fucked up if you ask me

Jap girls are very dumb for falling for this trap

>>1044924
Did you know even one real thing about hypnosis? If you don't want it or even don't trust the hypnotist, even the best can't get you completely "under". I would say 90% of hypnotism porn is faked. And even then a hypnotized person can't handle against their convictions, because being "under" just sort of bypasses your high-level thinking and goes straight to your subconsciousness. The thing you can do with hypnotism is to train responses and automatisms, like getting aroused on a command-word or getting completely limp when wearing panties.

>>1045930
Lmao. Read back over your comment, psychopath. Who's the savage?

Looks like it's time for a third bomb.

>>1046041
Well we all know women are secretly whores and any percieved convictions are a facade. That's why you can push them into these scenarios where common sense should tell you to walk away. You absolve them if responsibility, make them think they have to do it, and they will suffer through anything. You don't even need to hypnotize.

That only makes it better

>>1042667
Stop, my dick is too hard.

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>>1042670
OP here. Seems like my sarcastic, dark joke went a bit far. I come back after a few days and everyone is either a justice warrior or a freak.

>>1042672
I was just trying to alert you maggots to how weird Japanese porn is, on top of already being so weird.

Anyways, here's a hot Jap vid for you dirty bastards to enjoy:

http://javhihi.com/movie/pretty--asian--babe-sara-seori-gangbanged-by-several-men.270.html

And let's keep the illegal, rape shit away. (I'm talking about you bakky bastard). Actual legal Japanese porn is perverted and manipulative enough.

>>1046185
The torture is the only place that crosses the line. Maybe the number of men. The bait and switch, as you posted, is common, which is why it took the police so long to investigate and no one was convicted of the actual sex/rape, hence the line

>>1044749
>suspended sentences in the case of some of the performers whose only crime was to rape a porn star.

So beyond the physical harm and abuse, it's psychologically no different than the other JAVs you mentioned. It's the same "rape"

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Does anyone remember the girl who had some Yakuza debt or something so they made her do a JAV where sje wqs getting gangbanged alongside her mom, and one where a dog fucked her?

Real tears right here

>>1046210
If you include the psychological aspect then probably 50 percent of porn you watch is "rape". Pressure to perform is common in western porn studios, european porn studios, even bloody alien porn studios.

>>1046183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

>>1046183
What's the joke? You posted quotes from articles alongsode pics showing how a lot of JAV is not as "staged" as you may think.

>>1046248
Kind of my point. The other JAV porn he is referencing and is talked about inthe articles is no different than Bakky. Stuff like Bakky is exactly what they are talking about

>>1046262
The joke that the crying is actually hot to listen to.

>>1046272
you suck at jokes

>>1046272
Oh. But it is, though. I mean if you are already getting off on it being "stimulated rape" wouldn't it be even hotter when you find out it's real?

>>1046275
I find it difficult to tell jokes and google porn at the same time

>>1046279
I don't get off on simulated rape. That crying is annoying and weird.

>>1046285
So you don't even like JAV to begin with, which makes your post even weirder, unless you were trying to shame JAV fans

>>1046184
>was just trying to alert you maggots to how weird Japanese porn is, on top of already being so weird.

Replace the word weird with hot and mission successful

>>1042728
100% this all day goddamn

There was a thread on /t/ awhilr ago about Bakky and other extreme JAV. One guy was talking about how brutal one of the scat scenes were. I dl'd it to see for myself and by the end of the scene the gal was screaming and fighting when they tried to pour shit into her puss and when they did she gave up. She lied there pretty much unconcious

>>1045990

>girls are dumb

no shit?

>>1043082
You've heard them fucking *talk* to each-other. That's what half of them sound like normally in the first place.

>>1044932
>Fuck all those men, I hope they get gang raped by a group of sentient jack hammers.

Then the jack-hammers would get sentenced for rape and put in jail since being sentient they knew what they were doing and are liable.

Idiot.

>>1044749
so only 16 dumb whores learned their lessons?

>>1046241
Got a code or link to those?

>>1043136
Alina Li's Kink scene wasn't even that rough. Pretty tame by their standards.

>>1046868
code is on the pic, That's the cover forthe one with her mom. Her name is Sakura, iirc. You probably google that with yakuza, mom, incest, or dog

>>1047047
what I find fascinating is the fact that censorship laws in Japan consider human male and female genitalia obscene so they have to be pixellated, but not dog genitalia inside a girl's pussy or mouth. That's not obscene.

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http://www.eporner.com/hd-porn/iFtEEpQDZ9W/2-Hole-During-Insertion-Aphrodisiac-Enema-Molester/ I've seen how three different men have randomly taken 3 beautiful ladies to have fun with them. One at the time. They started touching them (against their will) and then abusing of them in public.
I was not quite aroused while watching this poor ladies being abused, although my dick was spitting cum at the time, BUT I've got some disturbing questions since they used some rare methods to conquer this wild but willing missies.
They all were scrubbed with some sort of white powder directly in the vagina to begin with... Then they were filled with a green-colored anal-applied liquid. After that, I think just for fun, weird fetish or pleasure, they also filled their anal cavity with something similar to milk, so their victims can burst that liquid through the ass-hole during quite an exquisit rape.
NOW... MY QUESTION IS...
and leaving all games and sarcasm, is there any reason why this folks introduced that green liquid in every victim's anus?
what about the white powder applied in their delicate and delightful pussies?
I don't even want to know the name of the substances, I'm not that of a creep.
I'm just curious because after those actions their victims started to sweat, they looked kinda week or drugged.
Please be serious, if you rapist are reading this, I will not turn you in, I'm just curious about your methods, since I had never seen a rape before and those actions resulted to be really disturbing for me.
THANKS!

>>1047174
Lol, got a good laugh out of me

>>1046241

Name his Sakura Sakurada

I don't know anything about that but I'm not sure that those girls are being raped. Maybe they are actress no?

>>1047239
Most likely

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>>1047441
Did y'all not read the thread at all

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>>1044754
moar please

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>>1045424
Yoko Ishino, although I hadn't heard that she wasn't there willingly (wasn't her first video). She was supposedly in labour at the time.

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>>1045526
this

>>1046632

>Then the jack-hammers would get sentenced for rape and put in jail since being sentient they knew what they were doing and are liable.

That would be an amazing legal case. Do you MR Hammer No.1 plead guilty to the alleged rape of these gentlemen??

BZZZ BZZZZ

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>>1046518
am I on the wrong site?

>>1044932
lol

>>1045740
Do you have any thoughts on why this is? I am curious if you have any incite.

Dumb thread, of course this kind of thing has happened and it remains a problem (just as shady shit happens in American porn too), not denying that, but still very exaggerated and overblown. The whining and crying is just the Japanese equivalent of "oooohhh ooooo yeah fuck me baby harder." But I mean, sure, let's just over analyze it and project really hard.

>>1049897
>I'm Chinese and...
>Chinese
>unbiased opinion on Japanese people

Come on man, don't fall for this shit.

>>1049897
This is my own guess, as an American. It being a collective society, versus the individualistic societies of the west, goes against an inherent human drive for self actualization. The domineering of women is an effort to exert control in at least one aspect of life where they feel like they have none.

Best Thread Ever

>>1043082
I don't watch jap porn because the noises they make give me a headache. I've fucked asian american girls who don't make that noise. It hurts my brain.

>>1044986
not to mention some girls starting out are carted from scene to scene

>>1049884
I think you would have to prove somehow that the jackhammers were sentient. And at that point, charging them with rape would probably be the furthest thing from everyones minds. Probably would want to capture and study them.

These are real people with thoughts and feelings just like yourself.

I sincerely hope you all kill yourselves.

>>1045492
Spoken like some real human garbage

>>1050012
We're real people with thoughts and feelings just like you, telling us to kill ourselves is very hurtful, take it back.

This is the most sickening thing ever.

I hope they suffer ten times worse than their victims in prison.

Shame she didn't just start biting their dicks off.

>>1045492

You deserve to be castrated.

Can anybody recommend any good revenge films? I've seen I saw the Devil and Oldboy, reading some of the posts about what these people did in this thread makes me want to see justice being done.

so uh where can i find more of this

also is hosting these videos illegal in a lot of places or is it just not wanting to be associated? i remember xvideos or somewhere banning rape as a search term causing some discussion years ago

>>1050422

Why would you want to see people being so severely abused and put through such torment?

Does it get to your conscience afterwards, or are you just detached from it?

>>1050425
there are certain moods where i watch it and feel dissociated and watch with a surreal like... fascination i guess

I feel like it's something I need to know about- like i'm not against rape jokes and such but i'm sure if more people saw murder and torture and rape and so on they would be able to feel more sympathy towards people who went though some shit and they'd be more opposed to violence.

Plus it makes me more grateful for having a decent life and having not experienced anything so terrible... It's not some sick pleasure

>>1050433

Honestly, I almost clicked one of those webms, to confirm for myself that it wasn't as bad as people were saying. Because it just makes me sick that humans are capable of inflicting that kind of cruelty, especially on that scale, against somebody whos vulnerable and has no way of defending herself.

But I didn't, 'cos I'm just guessing it is that bad, so I'm just gonna kinda put it aside out of my mind and hope the rapists will all pay karmically.

>>1050417

Google: Korean revenge movies

Koreans do revenge films better than most. It's a cultural thing.

>>1044852

It's called truth.

>>1042663

Seems like a bunch of PC lies. In fact it's a cultural thing.

>>1050472
>rape and torture is a cultural thing

True, but that doesn't make it right

>>1050481
yeah it's only reserved for the government in the best cultures :^)

>>1045544
As it should be. Threads of this nature should be bannable

>>1050486
it's out there you can't just pretend it doesn't exist.
it's not like cp where people who like it create a market- this stuff can be faked.

>>1049911
>goes against an inherent human drive for self actualization.

dude that's pretty heavy, i've never thought of this

anybody familiar wit asian culture- have these countries showed trends of growing away from this? i'm aware of taoism, and that we view each others cultures as like... backwards i guess, but do you think there cultures will eventually shy away from collectivism or would you just chalk it up to "it's a different culture and that's the way it is." ?

>>1044835
That's fcked up...

>>1044815
Wolfman!?

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Just fapped to Bakky-04

>feels good man

>>1044932
>newfag
>>1047459
>oldfag

>>1052753
Also, the site seems to have a bunch of the complete BKS vids shown in this thread.

WHERE DO I FIND BAKKY VIDEOS!

these fucking rapes are disgusting

but out research what is this scene alina li quit to? >>1043357

>>1053136
There's a torrent with all of them

>>1045542
(what's the source on that picture matey)

I have a whole new appreciation for Jap porn now.

>>1044767
Idiots. With that much manpower they could have made her enema the wine and she would have no choice but be forced into the alcoholic effects. Don't ask how I know. Did some enema experiments and yes you can absorb alcohol off your poop chute but it's inconvenient unless you have a good setup.

>>1045836
I'd say it has more to do with Japan's retarded habit of only aiming for 100% surefire convictions.

The obsess over it so much that if they magically think that a lawyer with a "bad" winrate must obviously be a lame horse, so in order to protect their livelihood, the lawyers act like picky housewives.

>>1044815
jewdar going off

>>1042663
Source on article?

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the guy who did the bakky series was sent to jail

>>1053976
Was posting from my phone. So a screenshot would have been more effort

>>1053939
The CEO was, it wasn't just one guy who did the series. Did you even read the post with sentences above?

>>1053968
http://www.weareresonate.com/2016/06/japan-porn-industry-issues-apology-following-coercion-claim/#

>>1047462
Why do these videos turn me on so much... fuck I'm depraved I know it

Is there any actual article on this or is OP just making shit up for (you)s?

And I call bullshit on that. There are many JAV stars who go into porn willingly and continue their careers that still moan and whine while fucking.

>>1054516

They do it because it is what's desired by the men there. Op is just a faggot that thinks his opinion means anything.

>>1054516
>>1054589
Did either of you read the thread at all? Links were posted. Most recently within a few posts of your own.

>>1042663

The reason that Japanese pornstars cry is connected to the way that Japanese women always moan as if they're in pain when you penetrate them - they've been socialised to do it in order to compliment your endowment.

>>1045100
>They gave him two option shoot the man who owned them even more and take the blame or pay the debt with interest in few days.
> I only know now that he or his sister are not on debt anymore
when it comes to survival, the uglies come out. everyone for themselves and their direct blood. always!

>>1045381
so, what's the cause then, that japanese men and women aren't in relationships and don't have babies, nor fuck?

Women are lazy whores and they deserve whatever punishment they get.

So in all these scat videos the boys/girls really get forced to eat shit against their will?

That's fucking disgusting

>>1054870
Well, not all.

>>1053769
>don't ask how know
>proceeds to explain without even being asked
thanks anon,

>>1044971
voice of reason
>>1043135
>likes to surprise models on set by making them do more extreme things than they expected or even wanted to do.
>claiming that's not rape
???

>>1044757
just look at that cocky fellow shoving his willy into an unwilling mouth with no fear of her biting it (off?)!

>find a good jav

>girl is annoying as fuck with the noises to the point where i have to mute it and it's not even worth the trouble at that point
>80% of the video is some pudgy ugly dude awkwardly sucking on her stuck out tongue or groping her weirdly

it's always one of these, or it's both

why

>>1057032
That's how docile they are

That's fucked.

This is fucked up, how do you guys live with yourselves?

>>1057142
Not enjoying your first 5 minutes on 4chan I see.

>>1042663
Bullshit. Post evidence that isn't the fucking Daily Mail or some other tabloid. Where's this BBC exposition?

>>1045542
Lol, the Daily Mail is your source of information? Ha!

>>1057158
>>1057157
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/02/05/asia/japan-rape-porn-arrest/index.html

Also maybe you missed the Bakky links in the thread. Or the links of porn industry apologizing, or the link of the JAV star telling her story in the thread.

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>>1057157
I found the OPs links easy but they are flagged as Spam
>>1042667
For this article either google that quote or go to The Japan Times news site and search for an article titled "Porn industry takes first step toward recognizing it has a problem"

Also google "japan fashion contract sex" Pic related.

>>1042667
Here's yoir BBC if you didn't search for the source on the site when the source was given to that's your own laziness.

>>1054870
i assume most of the shit is fake
you'll see a relatively mainstream jav pornstar getting it all over themselves and chewing on it, without gagging or being grossed out at all.

whereas in the american scat film series where the owner went to court, the girls can barely touch it, gag, vomit, and look disgusted.


the one bakky scat film i saw is mostly fake, she is willing in 90percent of it and smiles and isnt attacked. she only freaks out when they tryto put it in her vagina, i assume b/c she doesn't even want w/e prop material they use to give her some infection

>>1049884
this type of shit is the reason I still come to this site <3
>>1050009
nah man they would put them to trial the second they are proven to be conscious. you clearly have no understanding of the Japanese psych.
>>1045414
here's to hoping.

>>1051034

It's complete horseshit, he's just a typical self-hating Westernized Asian who desperately wants to be white and thinks that he can get his white card by bashing on his own race. Collectivism is the default attitude of humans, Westerners with their attitude of extreme individualism are an aberration with this regard but even then collectivist mentality plays itself out because extreme individualism always leads to conformity.

>>1049886
>xDDD le 4chins loves raep!!!1!!
Fuck off.

>>1057295
Nope, I am not Asian. Born and raised in the USA.

>>1051034
They have shown a trend from going away from collectivism, that's why China isn't as pure communist as it once was. Even the dude above, admits with collectivsm individualism eventually creeps in. That said, an extreme of either is not good. The West's historical success is not because of individualism, it was collective principles inserted into their individual nature, China's rise does not show collectivism works, too. It's the introduction of individualistic principals into their collective society. The ideal is somewhere in the middle

>>1057428

>Nope, I am not Asian. Born and raised in the USA.

You keep telling yourself that but you'll never be anything more than a chink to Americans.

>They have shown a trend from going away from collectivism, that's why China isn't as pure communist as it once was...

Nothing of what you've said actually has anything to do with China's rise. China has always been the regions superpower and after a century of being kicked around by the Western powers they finally caught up and are back in their traditional position.

>>1043135
somebody got a source?

>>1053939
source?

>>1057503
>the regions superpower
The region is not the world. We're talking global. And not Always.

>>1051034
>dude that's pretty heavy
I'm not saying that there isnt a collectivism vs indivualistic divide in the cultures but dont for a second think that americans are all about individualism, in groups most americans buy the same clothes, hear the same music , of course it easier to think you are an individual when the subcultures are more varied but at the core you are part of collectivism

>>1057207
Guess I'm gonna start watching JAV now. Hot.

>>1057028
He doesn't force them. They can walk out at any time. Women are mostly incapable of being individuals and refusing peer pressure though.

>>1045598
>someone is retarded and pays for it
Damn, nature.

>>1057662
As humans we are greater than our nature

>>1042663
WTF, I love JAV now!

If I was a woman in Japan I would be paranoid as shit.

>>1042665
>The girls "crying" during sex is a cultural thing.
Yeah, it's like they are more afraid of their own pleasure - i.e. losing control - than anything else.

>this thread

Has no one on /hc/ seriously heard of Khan Tusion?

He tricks real women, some amateurs, some pornstars into having sex on cam, and just when the women think that's all, he beats them and chokes them and verbally abuses them until they cry or pass out from choking.

And that's just one guy.

>>1062521
Oh the days of "Yellow Discipline".

>>1045930
I guess two nukes isn't enough.

>>1050012
You first freindo

>>1042665
>for what reason I don't know why
Because ALL men are rapists.
At least the Japanese are a bit more honest about it.

>tfw have qt jap friend on twitter
>She is a race queen and does occasional modelling

I didn't need this thread

>>1042663
This is finally good news !

>>1064904
>race queen
What's a race queen?

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>>1064911
What the Japanese call grid girls or the promo girls at car shows.

Most of the time they are followed around by camera man crawling on the floor to get upskirt shots.

>>1062521
>>1062526

Does anyone remember the original Backroom Facials from the Ox/Bangbros crew that legit had women coming in for modeling and pressured them into sex before kicking them out. Had them sign even on camera without reading the release. It got shut down after only 30 some scenes.

>>1044932

Really? This is the most disgusting thing you've seen on 4chan? Jesus and here I thought Summer was over - get off the computer and go to bed Sandra!

>>1042669
Isn't this all over the world though? Like ti happens everywhere.

>>1042663
Basically I'll hand it down like this. Organized crime is well embedded into the porn industry. Sites like YouJizz and RedTube are open sesame because they can put their shit on there and promote it. The more views of course the more $$. Money comes from the Ads which you can imagine some desperate fuck wants his dick bigger. Imagine that. I would say roughly 20% of the porn you see is black market porn. That means it's either made by the Triads, various Mafia's, even some street gangs with enough influence.

The thing is I've studied the hell out of this. You can easily tell clean porn from dirty porn. If the setting looks off, if the "acting" is off, if it just looks plain fucking sketchy; it's dirty porn. Amateur porn is very easy to tell; usually it'll just be a couple doing their own thing. Clean porn will always have HD pictures and video, clean girls/guys, good settings, it'll be smooth and professional.

How do you stop shit like this? Simple, find a website and subscribe to it. Pay the $10-20/month. Want to hide it? Use paypal. Paypal will register as Paypal and the only way people will see what it really is if they access your Paypal account. This doesn't just happen to women, it happens to men. It's fucked. It grows bigger and bigger every day. The only way to slow it down is to cut down the viewings. Views = profit. Some of these people are part of missing persons. Abducted from their families and forced to do shit beyond imagination. This isn't just in Japan this is also in Russia, Eastern Europe, and the West Coast of the U.S. which are all HUGE markets.

>>1043135
sauce on this?

>>1044932
damn you have not seen enough of 4chan then

I lived in Japan for a while--moved there for a girl. Once there I went crazy. Dated all kinds especially girls who worked in the sex industry. I can tell you that many are not forced into anything. It's utter BS! Sure, some of the girls come from bad homes, etc., and many have had tough childhoods, but just as many do not. Tokyo is a crazy place. My friend used to call it "adult Disneyland." Japanese men and women are not hindered by their religious beliefs nor is sex taboo. Sex is a huge industry and there is money to be made. You'd be surprised how many young girls do it for either money or a new experience. Don't be so naive to believe this poster's opinion on the subject--it's a very convoluted topic.

BTW, the "crying" noise is because Japanese men love super submissive females. It's pretty much the standard and it's been that way for decades and I doubt it will change. Japan is a hyper-patriarchy and the women don't seem to mind too much. It's sewn into the fabric of the culture and the only way it would change is if they allowed immigrants which isn't likely (god bless the Japanese). They are giving the middle finger to all the cucks and building robots instead.

>>1046241
Its one of the dog game movies. Not much dog action though. I have it and they mostly just do a normal rape scene.

>>1068186
Soon all they have to fuck are grannies and metal vaginas.

>people actually believe what they read on 4chan not to mention it's /hc/.

>>1068963
I like to believe because this very hot...

>>1042728
its not rape if she wants it

good, whores deserve to suffer

if they wanted to be treated well they shouldnt have been whores

>>1044835
>let a woman think she can finally leave and when she opens the door, it's another group of guys and it begins all over again

damn those japs were really full of hate

>>1068165
>How do you stop shit like this? Simple, find a website and subscribe to it. Pay the $10-20/month.

lmfao

nice try kike

>>1052753

Man, this made me sad.

>>1044815
Max felicitas, or the boy who became a straight porn actor and is still a faggot

>Look up bakky videos thinking it won't be so bad
>2 videos in I feel bad.jpg

>Water torture
>Hardcore virgin anal with limited lube, + it's a gangbang.

GG no RE

Sad panda didn't prepare me for the real thing.

>>1069502
>Hardcore virgin anal with limited lube, + it's a gangbang.
Which one?

>>1044924
Hypnotism isn't real...

>>1045544
Kill yourself SCUM

>>1045589
Do a favor to the world and kill all your family and then cut your microscopic dick

>>1046111
They deserve that

>>1046130
Your mom poop you right?

For things like this It's why all men desrve to die

Well your realise the women fall into the trap.

>>1070266
Agreed. The men fapping to those videos and the ones who were involved in this will die a slow, painful death one day.

Thanks to the poster who posted the link to where these Bakky videos can be found.

This one is much better than the original one IMHO. While the girl is not as cute as in the other one, this girl fights back a lot whereas the other one was completely compliant. Some of the other one is misogynistic, shoving her head in a toilet, the mud in the face, that is sadistic shit. Does not belong with the very erotic scenes of one girl getting overwhelmed by so many hands and cocks. https://www.bitporno.sx/?v=hM67xhaFP

>>1057661
>It's okay because nobody forces them they just apply the peer pressure I just said they are literally incapable of resisting

jesus how orwellian can you get? for the sake of the argument, did you mean "less likely"?

Because If they're "incapable", as in not having the necessary ability to do so, then you're literally saying women don't have the physical capacity to take responsibility for themselves, meaning they can't leave any time they want, which would go against your argument

>>1052753
Well I came.

Thanks anon

>>1069502
>Sad panda didn't prepare me for the real thing.
Speak for yourself, I'm fucking diamonds over here.

>>1042663
>Several media outlets, including the BBC
Hoax.

>>1070319
>The men fapping to those videos and the ones who were involved in this will die a slow, painful death one day.
Most 50-year old Japanese men will live longer than you. Why are you using IT devices made by slaves in China or North Korea btw?

>>1044835
Now thats just taking it too far

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>>1062526
>>1066325

Gonna need some links here, lads.

here is Sakura's video fucking and sucking the dog (fast forward to last 20 minutes or so)http://www.txxx.com/videos/980685/the-dog-game/

here is link to Sakura in Motherdaughter rice bowl http://www.sunporno.com/videos/354903/real-motheranddaught-part-1

>>1072686
I've not found a link of part 2 only scene webms pls help

>>1072686

Bah. I want uncensored.

>>1045424
>a pregnant girl die in one of these movies
Source?

>>1045866
That's not really how it works. Hypnosis can't make you do something you couldn't be pressured in to doing. Even if you didn't want to give out your credit card number but there is an audience of 1000 people waiting for you to do it and you don't want to make the hypnotist look like a complete ass you might do it.

>>1050425
Makes my dick hard and that's all that matters

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>>1050425
It makes my dick hard and that's all that matters.

>BBC

You won't mind providing any link about that, do you?

>>1050012
No they are whores so you're objectively wrong :^)

>>1050486
cause it hurts your fee fees?
you dont have to look at it sugartits

>>1042665
no they just have really annoying high pitched Nip gook voices
>cultural rape fantasies
you are about the most retarded weeb faggot in this thread

>>1044765
what is up with all the drowning in Bakky vids?

>>1050425
it's because its not manufactured and so fake like real porn.
this is rough and raw. you are watching someone go through intense and complex emotions in front of you. (all bad in this case)
the excitement and unpredictability of the video is what makes it so enticing.

people who cant really put themselves in another persons mindset wouldnt get it.

at least that's what it is for me some of these sickos just like seeing women get hit

>>1074234
Who is she?

>>1046241
I don't know why I watched this.

Good lord...

>>1046241
>Real tears right here

What time?

>>1042794
Shill posts

>>1049886
Porn boards are filled with normalfags + Reddit influx after moot sold out

>>1076065
>if you're not a scumbag you're a normalfag

>>1076065
How old are you?

>>1044754
>>1044757
>>1044759
>>1044765
>>1044767
>>1044797
>>1044800
>>1044831
>>1044835
Had I not known that the girls here were literally lied to and never actually wanted to do porn I would have continued fapping away. Now I feel really bad for them. They were deceived into having their lives ruined when they never wanted that in the first place.

>>1078910
I forgot to mention I find it funny Japan (supposedly) has strong anti-CP laws when this is the exact same thing. Underage girls being manipulated and forced into sex and having their lives destroyed in the process.

>>1077233
>b-b-but it's wrong
I'd tell you to go back but there's no point anymore. Just remember that your moralfagging over videos shot years ago thousands of miles away is pathetic and you don't belong here.

>>1079552
>being an edgelord kid

>>1079553
>I said edgy that means I'm not acting like a child

>>1066325
Everything bangbros is legitimate and involves no coercion. Even bangbus was (loosely) scripted and fake. Backroom Facials was legit and just designed to fool people like you.

>>1044924

Lol if anyone thinks hypnosis functions like mind control they are either 6 years old or retarded.

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>>1053833
Dude is clearly not jewish lol. doesn't even look remotely Jewish.

>>1046279
absolutely

>>1043372
There is no "definition" of the word "rape", just an understanding that the Americans are demanding them to find ways to demonize men and outlaw their sexual desires and those areas of the arts which express them.

>>1051177
Where i can download all of this?

>>1079792
Eternal teenager-tier sociopolitical grandstanding aside,

Whether it's a woman being fucked against her will by an ugly dude she's not into and freezing up due to some weird (but well documented) instict they've got,
or whether it's you being strapped to a table by a fat hairy gay grampa and getting rammed in the ass by his wrinkly cock,
people don't want sex they don't want, and there should be a law against sex with someone who says "no".

I can't possibly imagine you disagree with that.

>>1042663
That just made my dick hard. So basically rape, cool man 8)

>>1043082
Gotta be a language thing then. Asians whose first language is English don't sound like that.

It'd be interesting to do a real study on it.

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>>1042663
>In Japan, young women are conned into signing "fashion contracts" that are later used to force them into gangbangs. Several media outlets, including the BBC have uncovered this well-organised and common problem in Japan. Many of the Japanese pornstars do not want to be filmed, that's why they look so visibly upset and sometimes cry.

Rubbish.
I lived in Japan for 10 years and bonked a lot of Japanese girls... to be honest it was one of the main things that went to curing my 'yellow fever'.

In school girls are taught in Sex-Ed class (which is called 'Purity Education' if you directly translate) that to orgasm or give into the feelings of sex for themselves is disrespectful and even selfish... they are 'expected' to fight it and please the man. This is something that has been around for centuries and only a Courtesan (aka Prostitute) would allow themselves to feel pleasure at sex.

It is actually kind'a scary for the average Japanese bloke to experience a girl who enjoys sex and thus a lot of their porn is based around that.
I have known girls who would happy take a load of pee in their face rather than let themselves show they are getting turned on... fucking annoying as hell actually.

You are partially right, the Yakuza do trap a lot of girls into Porn but mostly it is through legitimate offers (I used to live in Okayama and there were flyers everywhere looking for girls wanting to make a quick Yen) as well as through reeling in debts... because loans are hard to come by in Japan and because being behind on fashion is terribly embarrassing girls will sign up for 25% -> 33% loans and not be able to pay them off... or even worse their boy friends will sign up for the loans and offer the girls as a way to pay off the debt

>>1079792
There is no "definition" of the word "rape", just an understanding that the Americans are demanding them to find ways to demonize men and outlaw their sexual desires and those areas of the arts which express them.There is no "definition" of the word "rape", just an understanding that the Americans are demanding them to find ways to demonize men and outlaw their sexual desires and those areas of the arts which express them.
Japanese Penal Codes 176 & 177 deal with rape; they include a definition

It is a lot easier to have a decent discussion if you dont make shit up

>>1042665
you're both correct, OP>>1042663
is referring to a specific case. About 18 individuals went to jail

>>1072681
Human dick is censored but dog is uncensored, lmao

>>1069084
> _____ deserve to suffer
> if they wanted to be treated well they shouldn't have been ______

^ Bigotry Template

>>1044831
Probably fake... she will just need to call police

>>1044749
>In fact they were dragged off and gang raped by the studio’s staff (and friends/relatives of staff)
Sharing is caring.

>>1084893
Well might be degenerate when is coerced

>>1084889
Did you read the Bakky stuff? Not fake, they were like 17 films in before someone called the police which prompted the investigation. Funny because even the phone call and the cops showing up can be seen in one of the videos.

In other news I jerked it to a Bakky video yesterday

>>1084911
Show screencap

Alright well I guess Nanking really did happen then.

>>1050012
You first. Remember to record your suicide so we can rub one or two in.

>>1057142
Go back to your safe space, fucking retard.

>>1045551
BBC, ie big black cock.

>>1085517
And with that, the thread is kill

>>1085391
Hi Muhammad, how's your stay in Sweden?

Holy fuck, this whole thread killed my boner for a week.

>>1045579
A swing and a miss

>>1086892
Complete retard

>>1042663
I will never forgive these bitches for Pearl Harbor.

>>1088397
Amen to that brother!

I am willing to start forgiving them for... some services lol