Hentai Hate Thread

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>>4483203
I also hate how the industry has turned away from interesting plots and good characters mixed with monsters and tenacles into a NTR shitshow.

And anything even slightly hardcore comes with scat piss and blood as a prerequisite these days.

Mahou no nie 3 episode 2, ten minutes of animation, another ten mintues of repeated scenes and a ten minute recap. Ep 1 was trash too, but ep 2 was the worst I've seen this year.

Murakami should really learn how to draw faces.

>>4483203
>Starting with ZIZ.
>Not Queen Bee.

>>4483203
Queen Bee. Always Queen Bee.

>>4483243
The thing with Murakami is that his animation makes up for the art. When I watch an H-anime, I'm there for the action. There are thousands of still images with good faces I can fap to.

In a world where these studios seem to be incapable of putting out a well rounded project, if I have to pick between good art or animation, I choose animation.

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>>4483293
Thankfully my tastes are hardcore enough that I haven't come across their garbage.

>>4483308
>The thing with Murakami is that his animation makes up for the art.
>excited for new OVA based on vn
Murakami shits them up by taking their unique character designs and turning them into his deformed sameface moeblobs.
>adds 40 different lensflare angles, neon lights, shaky cam, and shades everything to look shiny as fuck.

He's like michael bay of hentai. The Ingrid series didn't have to butcher the source material with random.effects to look good. The first episode of Annerose was was good quality and didn't have to butcher the colors and everything to make it look good. Sadly ZIZ will never reach that first episode quality again by the looks of it.

>>4483204
Just about everyone hates it. It's just that cucks are like furries in that they'll blow their entire paychecks on any garbage that panders to them.

I hate pretty much every h company nowadays. You'd be hard pressed to find a title with animation better than Dragon Ball Super.

>>4483386
>adds 40 different lensflare angles, neon lights, shaky cam, and shades everything to look shiny as fuck.
Pretty sure than counts as art style and not animation.

I mean I like the fast fucks and the creative use of loops at different angles to keep it fresh.

>>4483308
>The thing with Murakami is that his animation makes up for the art. When I watch an H-anime, I'm there for the action. There are thousands of still images with good faces I can fap to.
This. People who hate on Murakami need to fuck off, he's one of the only dudes left at least trying to make decently-animated anime porn instead of 10fps slideshows.

>>4483545
>Pretty sure than counts as art style and not animation.
>I mean I like the fast fucks and the creative use of loops at different angles to keep it fresh.

Well there's a lot of people who don't like his art style and way of animating. Adding 20 effects and masking looks with a shaky cam is not an art style, its an animation trick and an original one at that. Camara tricks have been used animations to compensate things long before Murakami did hentai. If you guys like it that's fine but understand that there is just as much people who don't, and when you have Murakami fanboys like >>4483551 telling people they have to like it because he's supposedly some kind of hentai legend people will shit on him harder. The guys who animated instant classics like bible black didn't use all these shoddy tricks that messed with the general design of the source material to make their work look good so why does Murakami get a pass for it? Hentai animation has been shit all around these days and his works are no exception. He at least tried to stay true to his adapted character designs during his KS and TA days but now he doesn't. I mean, have you seen his recent works? Every girl he draws these days look super moe and have bad sameface, which wasn't something he suffered from back in the animations i mention earlier. In some aspects he's good and in others bad, the rest goes down to opinion of both groups. People are tired of seeing his fanboys give him a plus for every flaw he has, especially not when we've had other animators who didn't have to go through all these gimmicks to look good.

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>PoRo

Why are they still exist? I ask myself this every time they release an animation. When you saw 1 episode, you pretty much saw everything from them. It never turns me on but apparently some people love their work.

It would be much better if they just make an ecchi anime.

>>4483601
Oni Chichi is very popular from the looks of things.

>>4483626
Oni Chichi is one thing with their incest bait and shit. But there's no excuse that PoRo keeps making bland characters like this. And don't even get me started about Gif Bee.

>>4483647
>PoRo keeps making bland characters like this.

It sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about. PoRo isn't making these characters, they're adapted from the games they are based off of. The only sin PoRo has is repeatedly milking Oni Chichi with random extra OVAs with the same exact plot rehashed. As for why they keep doing it, well their vanilla audience is eating it up.

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>>4483669
Of course I know that they adapted the games and they did it very poorly. Making the characters look bland.

>>4483730
You are a comparing a still visual to a complete animation of a hentai title.. seriously, the budget for these things aren't that much, and the animators get paid shit. It's normal.

ESLfags, entitledfags, and ignorantfags all in one thread. What's the point in this thread? The industry is already plain obvious known to be low budget and bad. It doesn't hide any of that and you guys pointing it out just proves it. Something that is niche with a small budget will produce low quality stuff. Is that really surprising? Its like complaining about homeless people being homeless.

>>4483293
They at least stay close to the original work and give them most credit unlike murakami who just takes someone's work and make it his own style...

>>4483204
Ones with interesting stories requires more episodes. More episodes require more budget. The industry don't have that kind of money. Its quality>quantity.

>>4483396
Maybe you should accept hentai for what it currently is or don't watch it. The hentai industry doesn't owe you anything. Especially if they don't get the money to do high quality animation from consumers. Money don't grow on trees unfortunately.

>>4483892
While I do agree with your point, I don't agree that taking a work and making it to one's own style is necessarily bad. It's hard to copy someone's style after all. And it doesn't account for the other aspects of the original work like the pace and feel. If the original features rough fucking, then it's a failure if the animated one features slow, gentle in-and-out movement.

Queen Bee tries to stay true to the original design at expense of something else. That's what people are griping about: they don't think it was worth the trade off.

For Murakami, while he didn't perfectly carbon copy the style of Kagami or Takeda Hiromitsu, I believe he still captured the essence of original work which is hardcore, depraved sex. Was it worth the trade off? Up to the viewers to decide.

>>4483203
> Lilith is cashing on the card game and release at best 2 games a year

>>4483930
They're about to go down, I think. They only released one game this year.

Constant camera shaking and zooming doesn't fool me into believing that shitty two frame "animation" hidden under all the garbage effects is good, so fuck anything by Murakami.

>>4483936
the card game alone can keep them afloat for a long time, releasing stand alone game is not cost efficient right now

>>4483593
I can't speak for fanboys. I never said you have to like it. I just said, objectively, fast well animation is better than as >>4483551 called it
>10fps slideshows

>>4483601
>that sameface
Jesus

>>4484424
10 fps slideshows? Like what? Queen Bee who purposely does that? Not a good argument. T-Rex is miles better. They can at least do anatomy well while staying close to the original content. The animation is actually fluid. They don't have to hide anything with a stupid drunken camera trick.

>>4484474
> Queen Bee who purposely does that?
I wasn't talking about queen bee
>T-Rex is miles better.
Try watching that lump of shit TA2 that ZIZ did with T-Rex.

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If we're just comparing quality of animation over good aesthetics than this has to be shit right? idk you decide

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>>4484804

>>4484800
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>>4484802
My point exactly.

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>>4484804
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>>4484807
Op here, thank you sir.

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>>4484822
as shit as this was beast impreg makes me rock fucking hard
It's a shame not a whole lot of hentai actually goes that far or it just ends up being
>lmao i came inside and now youre pregnant end of episode now

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>>4484836
wtf? it got deleted rofl. I guess it wasn't considered japanese origin....I guess it was not worthy enough

>>4483203 Wow, though.

While most of the popular anime nowadays are blueballing cocktease; there are threads like these about how they hate a hentai company for trying to give guys what they REALLY want.

In all honestly, I like for every adult anime company to NOT DO THE SAME SHIT as the other guy. For an NTR title there should be a NON-NTR title; for every tentacle porn, a NON-tentacle porn; for every title where the shounen lead doesn't show his eyes, there should be some that DOES. You get what I'm saying?

And y'all care SO MUCH about animation and art; how about you broke asses get jobs, make money, and pay studios to do better instead of complaining.

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>>4484800
>>4484801
>>4484802
>>4484804
>>4484805
>>4484807

I made those trying to show the stark contrast, webm related is another from TA2 for comparison. I watched TA3 too and was going to make more contrasting webms with Murakami's but the MP4 didn't import straight into my Sony Vegas version, and at that point I just said "Fuck it I'm not taking the time to re-encode this garbage with handbrake."

The good news is that independent 3D/2D animators and game makers keep getting better and many either have Patreon accounts or sell their stuff on DLsite. THEY actually produce some rough sex content unlike most major studios now.

Pretty soon the lies of these ZiZ apologists and similar scum will be irrelevant since the hardcore niche is being fulfilled by enterprising artists anyway.

>>4486062
I think the people still defending ZiZ are the ones who desperately want it to be good, and won't accept a franchise that's by now proven to have loads of potential is being handled so extremely poorly.

>>4486406
That's like people defending EA's micro transactions and every other fking company trying to put shit behind paywalls *cough destiny cough*

>>4486685
Well, yeah, sadly there are plenty of those people...

>>4483911
>And it doesn't account for the other aspects of the original work like the pace and feel. If the original features rough fucking, then it's a failure if the animated one features slow, gentle in-and-out movement.

That's irrelevant when objectively, it stays more close to the original as it keeps the original art which is pretty damn important when it comes to an anime adapation. Hell, I'd say artists would be a lot more willing to work with Queen Bee since it's literally free advertisement and it's pretty much all their entire work with some movements added.

>Queen Bee tries to stay true to the original design at expense of something else. That's what people are griping about: they don't think it was worth the trade off.

That's just their style. It's either your style or it isn't. Look, people can like Murakumi but don't be a hypocrite about it and go on talking shit about Queen Bee for ruining the original work when Murakumi does the exact same but worse by butchering what's the most important thing that separates artists from each other, the art style. The thing that made people like artists in the first place you know? Queen Bee's style is just like a motion comic.

I can't believe how retarded you murakumi fags are. Literally no one right now is defending ZIZ besides talking shit about Murakumi and you guys are pretending that there's a ZIZ boogeyman here.

>>4487218
It's how they're minds work. Murakami is the freatest and anyone who disagrees must be some ziz fan. They already have a history of talking out of their ass when it comes to the Taimanin Asagi series or animation knowledge in general, so this shouldn't be surprising. The majority of them are OVAfags only after all.

>>4486406
>>4486685
>>4487203

There isn't one post here defending ZIZ, you deluded fucks. Stop reach for boogeymen that don't exist.

>>4487218
>>4487236
>>4487239
That's some solid samefagging shitposting in order to bump a thread, great job!
Now let's pretend people weren't defending TA2 when it came out, or aren't currently even calling TA3 decent, for le epic baitz xD

>>4483203
Meh my hate is mostly on why good hmanga get hentai adaptations sent to Queen Bee

>>4487375
There's no need to bring that up though because its not happening at all in this thread. Are you that big of a child that some anon's word triggered you somhard you have to bring it up in another thread? You got proven wrong and now you're just embarrassing yourself even more by assuming people are samefagging. Please kill yourself.

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>>4483203
>ZiZ

I'm still mad over Annerose. The first two episodes were nice, but the third and fourth were so lacking. Especially the third episode. The final one did have some good moments like the cum dispenser and the sweet vanilla love between Annerose and her new troll husband.

>>4487217
>That's irrelevant
I disagree. Art style is important but that is just one aspect of the entire work/material. As an example, Discipline animation's 2nd half not appreciated by fans of the game. Why? Because it deviated from the original's formula. If the art-style was Seishoujo's through and through, do you think people will suddenly like it?

I think you're short-changing the artists and their writers (for games) by focusing more on the art-style and disregarding the story and characters that made fans come to like a particular work.

>>4487761
I said it's irrelevant because you're talking about how Queen Bee isn't a perfect adaption by mentioning some cons but it doesn't change the fact that it still stays close to the original more than other titles. An artist is known by his art. A lot of animations take away that by putting their own mediocre art style. Again, it's hypocritical when people say they care about animation more but then they start talking about badly about Poro for doing the same art all the time despite having consistent good animation.

>I disagree. Art style is important but that is just one aspect of the entire work/material.

I think you're misunderstanding. I said it's important but not the only thing that is needed but it's one of the main aspects which cannot be denied. A lot of people expect animations to look as good as the original or at least close. Not many animations do that.

> If the art-style was Seishoujo's through and through, do you think people will suddenly like it?

I believe people will like it a lot more. In the first place, my main problem is the hypocrisy of people's complaints. Look, I have no actual problems of focusing more on animation or more on art. The industry has to take short cuts. They have obvious limits. It's extremely hard to be in the middle which is exactly why so few studios do it and when a studio does do it. It turns out like Queen Bee.

I just have a problem with a lot of Queen Bee haters. Queen Bee keeps the original art style for bad animation. Other studios change it up for good animation. Why is so bad if one does the opposite which is Queen Bee? Why can't you have different styles and try to satisfy different crowds? Why would Queen Bee ruin the original source when other studio will do the same?

Where did all the fucking hardcore tentacle hentai's go? I miss stuff like Inyouchuu..

>Queen Bee.

Nuff said

>>4487870
Pixy and Lilith failed us

>>4483601
>>4483647
They excel at the basic and that's why its popular. If you've ever seen anime in this day and age, character design is as simplistic as it gets. Other hentai companies do the exact same thing, they have a few character designers, and if you look closely enough its pretty much sameface everywhere else as well. If you're looking for a brand new fancy unique style, you shouldn't be looking for it in hentai, mostly because it isn't a necessity and most people don't care about it.

It's like saying you can't enjoy hidamari sketch if you hated madoka or you can't enjoy classroom crisis if you hated oreimo. Pink pineapple is still using the same style of fucking from stringendo to their latest work, and no one gives a damn because they aren't autistic.

>>4487772
no fuk off queen bee is fucking shit because they simply care about making a fucking buck here and there. Coloring in work and then shoving it into a giffy machine isn't hard to do, and it could have been arguable that they're doing their best. However they clearly aren't because half of the time they're taking in hardcore works and applying that shitty ass slow as fuck animation to it. If they had any intention of sticking to the original, they would at least place in a tiny bit of effort into speeding and repeating frames, which should be fucking easy. But the aspect that they apply the same slowass technique on every single work shows they don't give a goddam fuck and are just looking to profit off a popular work.

>>4487375
>Now let's pretend people weren't defending TA2 when it came out

So you're gonna bring up shit that other people said in an old thread made months ago to support your argument here? Good fucking job proving their point. You Murakamifags are pathetic.

>>4488006
I wonder how many poeple here actually buy hentai to claim that

>>4488006
The company that ran Pixy failed Pixy.
That studio hasn't updated anything on their site in like 5-6+ years now iirc.

Ziz seems to be the only studio now doing anything and even then their current releases of half assed hentai have been met with mostly bad reviews.

>>4484842
well, what WAS it originally?

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>>4488350
It was a comparison of the horse scene from TA2 and the huge cock scene from TA ep 2

>>4487749
>>4488128
>let's make a thread which focusses exclusively on complaining about companies
>good, I say this company is shit
>man, on this board people sometimes even defend this company, which is baffling and annoying as shit
>WOW DON'T TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SOMETIMES DEFEND THE SHIT COMPANY TURBOFAG YOU MUST LIKE THIS OTHER SHIT ANIMATOR THEN KYS
The retardation runs strong in you.

>>4488120
What you said doesn't change anything and you're just doing exactly what the previous anon said. You can literally list cons for every animation adaption. List cons for every hentai studo but that does not change the fact that Queen Bee keeps the original art which means they follow the original source better than most. Rather or not they capture hardcore scenes well is irrelevant. They already accomplished what they were advertising the whole time which is using the original art which is why you always see comparisons to the original work at the credits. People like that and there's a market. It benefits artists the most more than any other studio so, it's funny how you make them seem like a evil company who's just money hungry company. Don't pretend other hentai studios don't try to milk money from popular franchises.

Also, you get exactly what you paid for. The price for the animations is a lot cheaper compared to others. Obviously it won't be that well animated. What exactly is your problem here? The artists get more advertisement for their work. They get credited a lot. They're gonna be happy working with Queen Bee. You act like they intentionally choose hardcore titles to animate. It's just what they can get and what people is willing to work with them. Hell, the artists from the hardcore titles might even straight up asked them to animate their stuff. Who knows.

>>4488472
>It benefits artists the most
>the artists from the hardcore titles might even straight up asked them to animate their stuff

you queen bee faggots are on an entire different scale of delusional

>>4488635
Nice argument. I love how you didn't try to argue against the point about hypocrisy but instead move the goalpost and go on talking about the cons of Queen Bee because I totally said they were flawless. Wait, I didn't you idiot. I just explain what they are doing and that they are close to the original source compared to other adapation for a sacrifice of course.

And yes, of course it benefits the artists the most. I literally explained it. They pretty much used the artist's manga pages and the artists get to see all that move. They get more advertisement and exposure. By using their work, you give full credit to them and they get more profit. People will want to buy the original content. Other studios, butcher the original art. You never are able to recognize the original artist anymore and people don't care about the original artist but care more about the animator's style. For an example, Murakami. People just talk about him. How about the original artist?

>>>4488447
>Make a hate thread
>Spend more time defending Murakami and proving how superior Murakami is with multiple webms and posts to the boogeyman.

Yeah.

>>4483203
Does anyone have an idea what the Japanese audience think of ZIZ, Lilith and Pixy? Especially the animations that they push out.

I've turned to western SFM artists instead. Their stuff is mostly free, good animation, good art, HARDCORE w/ monsters and tentacles, NO NTR.

>>4489140
It's all shit with no direction whatsoever. It's obvious loops like watching a looped gif. The voice acting is shit and the sfx is repetitive. It's just looped sounds. No variety of different camera angles. 3D just won't be as good as actual drawn art animation.

>>4488472
>Also, you get exactly what you paid for. The price for the animations is a lot cheaper compared to others.
Uh, no? It's actually equal to or more expensive than the other h anime.
Some prices from this month's releases for example:
>[Queen Bee] Bokura no Sex: ￥3,230
>[Suzuki Mirano] Shiiku x Kanojo: ￥3,230
>[Mary Jane] Toshi Densetsu 3: ￥3,230
>[ZIZ] Kimi no Mana wa Rina Witch: ￥2,890
>[PoRO petit] JK to Ero Konbini Tenchou: ￥2,812

Seems to me like they just try to rip people off by putting out a package that looks good with still images, but when you actually play the video the animation is cheap shit.

>>4489211
Huh... I guess you are right after all. That's weird. I really wonder why?

>Seems to me like they just try to rip people off by putting out a package that looks good with still images

The art for the animation still looks like the still image on the cover though so, it's not exactly ripping off or false advertisement. Not to mention there's the back to look at too. No one's going to think a manga looking cover is gonna have good animation. You'll just think it's a motion comic.

but I guess it's ripping people off in the way it costs the same as other animations that may have better animation. I really wonder about that.

>>4488472
>>4488910

Jesus fuck you need to stop interchanging your delusions with reality. Artists aren't fucking sellouts who are that damn desperate to get an animation no matter what they have to do. A person who draws primarily hardcore shit is going to want their work to show that it's hardcore, not have it misrepresented as slow cuddly sex. Not only that, if people see it as half assed, they will interpret the artist is half assed as well, just like most people interpret queen bee as half assed. Even if animations reproduced the art perfectly, it doesn't change the probability of people searching up the original. Not all exposure is good, nor do artists really care that desperately for that sort of exposure.

The animation is shit, stop trying to make excuses like its money problems. I've already told you half of these they could simply speed up the animation, and then repeat the scenes. This is literally something that can be done in any media player and even on youtube, to at least present the image of it being hardcore. It doesn't cost shit, but the aspect that queen bee does a sloppy thoughtless job on a piece of work that is already low quality clearly goes to show that they dont give a fuck or care about the original and are just there to exploit things. And what we end up having is some girl getting raped in a cuddly way.

You can proceed to twist things up as much as you want to, but the situation is obviously more likely to be queen bee approaches a artist to use their work so they can produce the most cheapest quality work to make mass profit from it. Artists dont go begging for animations, nor are they desperate for attention, fuck off

>>4489246
>Artists aren't fucking sellouts who are that damn desperate to get an animation no matter what they have to do.

Then explain why they decided to work with Queen Bee. Why did the "hardcore artists" agreed to letting Queen Bee animate their work if what they would want is to show it being hardcore? Like, I said. In the end, it's the artists that agreed to let Queen Bee animate their work. They are clearly aware of what Queen Bee does unless you think QB is holding a gun to their head. Queen Bee can't do anything unless they get the final word from the artist.
>A person who draws primarily hardcore shit is going to want their work to show that it's hardcore

Why would they want their art style to be butchered instead though? and why did they let Queen Bee who is known for having slow animations animate their work? Keep on speaking for the artists when the results clearly proves you wrong.

>The animation is shit, stop trying to make excuses like its money problems.

It's not rocket science to know that they don't have the same budget as others. They make it cheap purposely like I've been saying the whole time. I never once denied the animation is shit besides say it's done purposely as a style.

> I've already told you half of these they could simply speed up the animation, and then repeat the scenes.

Because it's not as easy as you think it is otherwise It would've been done. Point me to a similar animation where they actually sped up the animation and did it better than Queen Bee. Queen Bee isn't the only studio who does this kind of style. There's netoraserare produced by Edge and Oppai Infinity! The Animation which is a gangbang title with also slow animation and it's by Pineapple. Go ahead and explain if it's so easy to do then why does so many other animation with similar characteristic share the same problem? Coincidence or what?

>>4489246
>to at least present the image of it being hardcore.

Animation isn't the only thing that can present it to be hardcore. There's voice acting which also shows it. Again quit changing the topic. We're not talking about how their cons. Also, you act like they only

>You can proceed to twist things up as much as you want to, but the situation is obviously more likely to be queen bee approaches a artist to use their work so they can produce the most cheapest quality work to make mass profit from it.

The hypocrisy. You're doing exactly that to my words. I never said that the artists was desperate and were sellouts and I just guessed a possibly of an artist going to Queen Bee. I'm not pretending I actually know it's true unlike you who straight out said it's most likely. There's nothing wrong with wanting your animation to have more publicity.

>Artists dont go begging for animations, nor are they desperate for attention, fuck off

Then why did they agree to work with Queen Bee. Quit embarrassing yourself. The fact that they had permission from the artist to work on their manga already proves you wrong. All the titles Queen Bee animated was with the consent of the original artist. If they actually believed that Queen Bee would do more damage to their work then why did they agree in the first place. Please answer that.

>>4484804
Is there a version of this without the red background, visual blurr and/or occasional flashing?

>>4489246
You should also be blaming the original artists for agreeing to working with Queen Bee instead of other studios. Queen Bee isn't the one that makes the decision for them. If no artists agreed then Queen Bee wouldn't exist. It's as easy as that.

Why do you even sound so angry? It has nothing to do with you anyways. You're not spending a dime nor do you have to pay for it. Only reason why Queen Bee is still up and alive is because people are supporting them. Throwing a tantrum on me won't solve anything when it's the Japanese people who actually makes a chance. I think I acted pretty civil for the whole talk I had with you but you sound salty as hell. Not to mention you moved the goalpost multiple times already and you're repeating the same thing when it still doesn't change the fact that Queen Bee try to stay close to the original content a lot more than others. Rather or not there's some things they don't capture well from the original content is irrelevant because I never said it was a flawless adapation.

You also act like QB animated a lot of hardcore titles when you can look at MAL and it's literally only 5 out of the 18 animations which is barely anything. Like fuck dude. Did QB ruin your life that much? The one that has the right to be mad should be the original artist because it's their own work.

>>4489290
No. It's how shitty Murakami is. He needs filters and shaky camera to appeal to people.

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>>4489290
Sadly not. It was intentional on murakami's part

I noticed one thing about people that dislike Murakami. Out of all the things that they harp on him about like the way he draws characters and the shaky camera and stuff.

None of them have trashed on how smoothly animated the sex scenes he directs are.

Isn't that the one of the things that make Murakami different? Kinda like how people dislike Michael Bay for using lens flares and tons of explosions. Murakami uses really smooth and fast animation along with his signature moving camera effect.

>>4489307
Because all those things ruin the sex scenes. It's irrelevant if the animation is smooth and fast when you have a extremely distracting drunken camera with unnecessary stupid filter. How the product looks is very important and his work has gotten worse with his generic moe art style. He's only getting worse.

>>4489310
This.
Compare it to the first episode of Kuroinu, Okaydon, Utea or Victoria Maid. I consider all those better simply because you can actually see what's going on. What annoying me is that Murakami could be amazing if they simply got rid of that extra crap.

>>4489310
I'll admit his moe style is pretty bad. I will always prefer his older style during his TA/KS and before days.

I wouldn't say smooth animation is irrelevant though. His camera movements aren't as bad compared to those live action scary movies. The last time I got motion sickness was watching that shitty blair witch project movie.

In my case I dont find Murakami's camera distracting since most of his sex scenes dont really use it or maybe my eyes just got used to it.

>unnecessary stupid filter
The last time I saw Murakami use really bad filters was back in TA and before when it would periodically blur at times during non sex scenes. The 2nd times was when he would have that glare at times too. I havent seen much of that lately or in his current moe style. If you got a few examples as of late compared to his older styles that would be nice

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>>4489316
Everything after ep 2 of kuroinu is shit to me.
Their best one will always be ep 1.

The director for Victorian maid does good stuff also but just takes a while to release stuff

>>4489323
I agree whole heatedly, my first. How the dropped the ball after the amazingness of ep 1, I'll never know. Only thing that comes close was the cake knight in the beginning of ep 4, but unfortunately her other scenes sucked.

The artist that did Okaydon and Victoria Maid panders to my thick cake/milf preference, so his stuff always gets a win in my book. I'll always be premium mad that Okaydon never actually featured any proper penetration, despite how fappable the art and animation was.

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>>4489307
Honestly the quality of the overall animation and style allows me to ignore all the stupid filters he has going on in TA and KS. They will forever be two series that I can forever come back too and still be diamond from.

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>>4489340
oh nice i made those gifs from that thread

>>4489280
>>4489285
>>4489297
The artists don't care or were expecting better when they thought of animation, or haven't done research on studios. Just because they said "yes" when given the proposal doesn't mean they went looking for animators to animate their stuff nor does it mean they were out searching for more publicity. Queen bee came to them, stop trying to twist it as if the artists came to queen bee.

>Point me to a similar animation where they actually sped up the animation

How about you just download it and double the damn speed for shits sake in any sort of media player?

>>4489297

Low quality practices such as microtransactions in the video game market promote the ideal of selling less for more. Queen bee is no different, promoting bad practices for the sake of money, which prompts other companies to follow suit when they realize they can get away with it.

>>4489382
>The artists don't care or were expecting better

Then deny it? They have a choice.. Even if Queen Bee came to them, it's their choice to accept or not. Obviously if you're letting a company work on your work you should be aware of they do. Who's dumb enough to be that ignorant? Who the hell just lets a company do shit to your work without any knowledge of them? Are you retarded? Quit talking for the artist. and stop being a hypocrite. You keep talking bout how I twist words and yet you do exactly that. You were the one that started saying they weren't being desperate. I didn't say anything about that. I questioned your points and you gave such a half asses answer while trying to speak for the artists.

You yourself are already making the artist more bad than you made them. Not me. Artists don't have to be a sellout or desperate to accept more publicity for their work. Go ahead a point the posts where I clearly said they were being desperate. How does listing benefits for artists all of a sudden mean that I'm saying the artists are being a sellout or being desperate?

>stop trying to twist it as if the artists came to queen bee.

I said maybe. I don't know. Are you 100% it's all Queen Bee that goes to artists? How are you being different from me?

>when given the proposal doesn't mean they went looking for animators to animate their stuff nor does it mean they were out searching for more publicity

Then explain to me. You haven't explained jack shit at all. Also, point to me where I said all that. Your arguments are horrible.

>>4489445
The hentai industry is fucking shit already. You don't need Queen Bee to promote jack shit when the situation of the industry already promotes studios to resort making money in a dying industry.. Every studio cuts corners. Every studio has a way to milk money. Don't pretend the industry is all innocent and shit and that Queen Bee is promoting all the evil.

the last good work from collaboration works was mankitsu happening, after that they just stopped caring.

on another timeline i would be excited about them getting nuki doki.

>>4489463
Member when hentai used to be good?

>>4488933
>one of the major annoyances of a bad studio is people defending it
>happens a lot on this board, even currently as there has been a recent release
>can't point it out as a grievance because some other anon is posting webms of another director he likes more and released work of the same franchise in the past
Your mental gymnastics baffle more than they impress.

>>4489140
>>4489209
Voice acting seems to be the biggest problem of major SFM releases. There's either hardly any direction given, or the VAs just don't care.

It all sounds so monumentally shit.

>>4489459
are you mentally retarded? who has ever heard of the original creator ever going to the animation studios to ask for their work to be animated? That shits unheard in almost every single medium. The people doing the adaptation are always the one asking for permission from the original, whether it be anime, movies, television shows, etc. You're a fucking retard to be assuming the opposite, and if you want to pull bullshit out of your ass you should be the one proving it rather than asking for the other way around where we have to do your work.

Also you imply they're desperate because its common knowledge that artists don't go about searching for animators to animate their stuff. They don't focus on animation, so when they get an offer, they probably don't give much of a damn as to what is being produced.

>>4489755
Holy shit you're autistic. All this is completely unrelated to the hentai hate topic. Spending a lot more time talking about your annoyance with people defending what you don't like is off topic.

>>4490056
>are you mentally retarded? who has ever heard of the original creator ever going to the animation studios to ask for their work to be animated? The people doing the adaptation are always the one asking for permission from the original, whether it be anime, movies, television shows, etc.

Are you seriously taking my assumption that seriously? I didn't even say it like I was so sure like you. How about you prove that you're actually right that creators never go to animators. I can't prove mine because it's a maybe. I'm not sure at all. You're being no different from me at all. Also, stop trying so hard to move the goalpost because you lost already. You're already ignoring my main points while focusing on some small assumption.

>if you want to pull bullshit out of your ass you should be the one proving it rather than asking for the other way around where we have to do your work.

What do I have to prove here? Tell me. I can't prove that the artist comes to the animators. I can't prove that the animators come to the artists. I don't have proof for them. Do you?

>>4490056
>Also you imply they're desperate because its common knowledge that artists don't go about searching for animators to animate their stuff.

Point me to the points where I'm implying it. Just because you're stupid enough to think so doesn't mean I'm implying it. Quit changing the topic. The main argument wasn't even this at all. Did you give up away and decide to focus on something stupid? I already asked you many times to point me to where I implied.

So many more people started hating ZIZ when they killed off the brown girl in Annerose. But they all fucking loved that boring tentacle and witches shit..

So it's always hard to place the vanilla loving trash between the people that realize how much shit Poro recycles, or why the animation in ZIZ is such crap compared to the Pixy releases...

>>4490058
The fact that you can't recognize your hypocrisy makes you the biggest idiot out of you two.

That aside, people defending the poor work of a studio, often simply because they like the franchise they're adapting, is a legit annoyance of the studio itself. Lilith has plenty of franchises, with plenty of fans, and every OVA will be done by ZIZ. The fact that these abyssmal adaptations are repeatedly defended, also on this board and as stated also recently, is fucking infuriating.
I mean, you and others have been insulting Murakami-fans for their blind fanboying throughout this entire thread, so...

>>4490058
>They don't focus on animation, so when they get an offer, they probably don't give much of a damn as to what is being produced.

What the fuck happened to what you said for the artists?

>A person who draws primarily hardcore shit is going to want their work to show that it's hardcore
>Not all exposure is good,
>But the aspect that they apply the same slowass technique on every single work shows they don't give a goddam fuck and are just looking to profit off a popular work.

Okay, so you care more than the artists themselves? You list all these bad things about Queen Bee. You get more mad than the artist themselves but in the end, the artist don't fucking care themselves? So, in the end all the things you said was pointless because of you, yourself said. Wow, good job.

Why do you even bother to keep replying when you can't argue for shit. You keep changing the topic while ignoring a lot of points. You already gone far away from my original points. I can't believe I wasted my time on you. You can't even have a civil talk without being salty as fuck. It just makes you so much less credible but in the first place, you weren't but anyways, I find talking with you pointless now. It was pointless in the beginning but I wanted to believe you actually had something good to say by the end but nope, it turned out to be. Things are just repeating over and over again as seen here and it's not going anywhere.

>>4490058
>studio hate thread
>what do you hate about this studio
>it has mostly released fucking shit
>what I also hate is that that shit is praised by fanboys
>WOW NOBODY IN THIS THREAD ABOUT HATING STUDIOS HAS PRAISED THAT STUDIO SO YOU CAN'T BRING THAT UP SOMEHOW
>I BET YOU'RE A MURAKAMI FAN FUCK I HATE THEM and that's somehow alright to state in this thread
>the fact that I derailed this topic makes you autistic
Congrats on the fun bait, my sympathies on the retardation.

>>4490070
>The fact that you can't recognize your hypocrisy makes you the biggest idiot out of you two. I mean, you and others have been insulting Murakami-fans for their blind fanboying throughout this entire thread, so...

Pointing out a baby crying and their wrong doings isn't hypocrisy and does not put you on the same level as them. Nice try though.

> people defending the poor work of a studio, often simply because they like the franchise they're adapting, is a legit annoyance of the studio itself

So, you're annoyed because people like what you don't like and they're not as picky as you when it comes to porn? Alright. Good point. I'm sorry but complaining won't do anything. The studio will keep producing what you dislike as long as people keep paying for the products in Japan. You're completely irrelevant. Your complaints are useless. Keep trying to complain and try to get some other horny anon on a hentai board to agree with you and comfort you.

>>4490073
>103 replies
>7 replies that is actually related to the topic

This thread is shit and you know it. Also

>Talking in caps
>saying retardation

How underage are you and why are you so salty?

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>>4490080
>Pointing out a baby crying and their wrong doings isn't hypocrisy and does not put you on the same level as them.
>I'm sorry but complaining won't do anything.
>Your complaints are useless. Keep trying to complain and try to get some other horny anon on a hentai board to agree with you and comfort you.
He still doesn't see it.

>How underage are you and why are you so salty?
>using underage unironically
Fucking newfags always ruin everything.

>>4490080
>So, you're annoyed because people like what you don't like and they're not as picky as you when it comes to porn? Alright. Good point. I'm sorry but complaining won't do anything.
You can't be this blind to your own posts. You just can't.

>>4483204
It's porn it can never have interesting plots it can only have fap plots.

>>4490080
>company/studio hate thread
>can't complain about fanboys inherent to defend the shit studio since it has exclusive rights to massively popular franchises
>but fuck fans of this specific director
Insufferable.

>>4490292
Not an argument as to the things I said.

>>4490301
You never had an argument, so he's just pointing out your blantant hypocrisy.
Come on, man. At this point yout shitposting is ZiZ quality.

>>4490303
If you have been reading, my argument was that spending more time talking about what people like that you don't like is unrelated to the topic and bringing it up is pointless when it's not even happening in the thread. Make a separate thread for that. I then said that 7 out of the 100 of posts are only related to the topic which he completely ignored. Nor does reposting what I said even prove that I was being a hypocrite. His posts are awful. It's full of quotes and caps while calling others "retardation". He can't even type properly and have an actual argument.

>>4490294
Not an argument. You're not proving anything besides reposting what I said.

>>4489209
You should check out studio fow

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I hate artists like ryun ryun. They got talent, but all his public stuff is clothed and censored crap (both at once!), but keeps changing his profile pic to a cropped hentai pic just to cocktease everyone.

>>4490067
>wahhh do muh work for me

no fuck off retard. I already said, my claim is common knowledge thus it needs no proof. Your claim is irregular, which is why you need to provide the proof. By pulling forth a bullshit claim, you imply that artists are desperate, because artists don't fucking go to animation companies. Seriously, are you just stupid or are you trying to churn up as much bullshit as you can in order to save face?

>>4483203
>TA2 and 3 were trash.

If you thought those were bad, you should watch Taimanin Yukikaze 2 and 3.

>>4490297

>t.13 year old that hasn't seen old hentai

>>4489246
>if people see it as half assed, they will interpret the artist is half assed as well

lol first you comment on other's people delusions then you fabric even more ridiculous ones, no one ever took an animation as a basis for the artist's source work, heck the entire planet already knows that she source is always better than the adaption

personally I would take Queen Bee over sameface PoRo ANY DAY of the fucking week because it preserves the artstyle and specific angles decided by the original work to a tee

>>4491950
somewhat debatable

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>>4487753
Annerose doesn't get enough love. Why couldn't she get a second game instead of that whore Yukikaze?

>>4491886
>t. redditor

>Taimanin series in the trash
>Starless is like a pale pale fucking shadow of something like Bible Black when it could have been top tier
>Secret Journey absolutely butchered
>Annerose nose dives in quality
>not giving Shiwasu no okina the respect he deserves

Shit has really gone downhill hasn't it?

>>4497980
Seriously Annerose ep 1 was THE BEST in terms of quality that ZiZ has ever released, everything after just went to straight shit.

>>4500147
2 was pretty good......until 3 and 4 came out the shit hole

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>>4500154
2 didn't' have the same quality as the first episode, but it was still very fap worthy. That gangbang scene and the part where the MC comes in only to see Annerose covered in a fucking puddle of cum was great.

I don't even remember 3 and the only thing I remember about 4 is that plant eating the insides of that brown chick and the troll rape/impregnation. The troll part could have been so much better, but it was too short.

>>4500129
>Shiwasu no okina
>he

>>4500453
you can stop that stupid meme now, he's been proven male

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>>4500154
man the ep1 bj from that dark witch was so SEX!!!
While the quality degraded as there were more eps im just glad we even got a full h scene with her in ep3 even though the preview from ep2 showed how much better it couldve looked.

>>4483203
http://s.4cdn.org/image/title/48.png

>>4490521
now to look up if ryun ryun has some decent videl fap material

>>4483308
>>4483551
That, and not everyone cares about accuracy to the source material. I watch Murakami because I enjoy the style and fast-paced animation.

Also he has a way with rough sex and the accelerating lead-up to a long, balls deep, pulsating internal cumshot that no one else can do well.

>>4489340

Never noticed how big Asagi's tits are until this gif. Fucking huge.

>>4489323
Isn't the director of victorian maid working on a new h title soon? i don't know the twitter post but i recall someone mentioning that is where they saw info on the upcoming project