Why is Japan so fascinated with old men fucking young girls?

Makes it more relatable for the common hentai crowd

maybe because hentai is drawn by mostly old men

>>4280304
It's about being degrading to the girls, having to fuck the least attractive men.

>>4280304
most old men in japan never had a sexual life, even those who have a wife. because their whole life is spent on work.

it's a sexual frustration thing

>>4280326
which kills my boner because I'm not thinking "she's being so degraded" I'm thinking "holy shit get this guy's hairy asshole out of my sight he's taking up way too much of the screen in most scenes"

>>4280304
well there's this translated h-manga where a cute little shota got raped by pig-ugly bbw lady. the art is pretty great and fairly new, i forgot the name tho

>>4280304
Japan has the population of mostly old people now.

>>4280304
Hairless, ugly dickhead old men need to self insert too, anon.

>>4280314
wrong

>>4280371
Then they should just self insert into the little girl like the rest of us.

>>4280371
Speaking of self-inserts, why are average dick guys literally non-existent in porn even though they're undeniably the biggest demographic?

I might be able to solve their low birth rate, just give me one year.

>>4280304
sauce?
nothing showed up in google and iqdb

>>4280304
It's that hidden desire to destroy something beautiful.

Yeah like wtf I can't fap for that ugly shit

>>4280304
Because it's a fetish? Why is Japan fascinated with rape?

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>>4280350

>>4280304
Honestly I think the closest answer is >>4280311, but it could also simply have the appeal that if some fat ugly dude is fucking a hot chick, then there is nothing stopping you yourself from being able to do so yourself.
In other words, it may be a self-esteem boost

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>>4280314
>>4280371
>>4280989
>>4280311
>self-insert tards
Then monster/orc/tentacle shit is aimed at orcs so they can self insert? what about faceless males and flying dicks?

If anything, this >>4280326 anon gets it.

>>4280347
>>>/cm/ is always there for you

>>4280999
That shit is not the same as straight up ugly men, but you're right that the stuff you name appeals more to the degrading/rape fetish

>>4280999
Also idk about faceless males, my best guess is either detail in males isn't important in straight porn or it serves for further self-insertion, though hair color wouldn't help with that.

The alternative is seeing attractive males balls deep in these girls.

How do you feel about that, honestly?

>>4280999
source? can't find

>>4281039
a-ok, attractive people fucking is par for the course, throwing a fat slob in there just ruins the mood. Although maybe it's different for fat slobs that can use it as a self insert.

>>4280304
>Why is Japan so fascinated with old men fucking young girls? There are so many. . .

japan "fascinated"?
"so many"? compared to what?

there are also "so many" loli, shota, tentacle, vanilla with good looking males, etc. . .

i'd say they're more "fascinated" with futa than your fetish(don't deny it)

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>when the fat old man is actually a pretty cool guy

I want to see more of this

>>4281039
Much better. I'd like everything in the scene to be either aesthetically pleasing, or functionally null. I don't care what the male looks like, as long as they're not noticeably offputting in body or manner.

I'm also not fat, so I can't at all relate with it.

>>4280304
Why on earth would i care about the male, it could be a dog doing the fucking and it would still be hot

>>4281039
Indifferent

>>4280304
I think for upgrade the degeneration's level

>>4280999
So either everything's meant for self-insert or nothing is?

>>4280999
It's mostly degradation, since once a human/elf is impregnated by a monster the offspring will always take after the monster the most.

>>4280304
>young prettyboi normalfag
>old balding man with shit sex life but actual income
>one of these groups actually buys hentai
>the other one torrents off the internet or doesnt associate with it at all

>>4280741

Garden

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So many people like self inserting in these. What I don't get is why we don't have more POV material. I've only seen a few POV manga. Pic related is a good vanilla one.

>>4280424
There's plenty of average dicks in porn, though.

>>4281263
Try harder.

>>4282507

>2016
>not having an 8x6

kys

>>4280304
We, the USA, fried Japan's brains pretty hard.

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unrelated to OP but does anyone know the name of that one jp site thats like pixiv except focuses completely on r-18 content? it got posted on here a year or so back and when you signed up they would show you different genres of content to help populate your home page/stream

the mascot was a chibi mushroom if it helps

>>4282621
Fill me in on this. All I know from this period was the Obscenity Law.

>>4282622

found it if anyone else is curious

https://nijie.info

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>>4282627
It all started in late July of 1945 when Japan refused to accept our demands of an unconditional surrender in the face utter destruction.
So we dropped a big bomb on them. They still refused, so a few days later we dropped an even bigger bomb on them.
At this point they had lost their voice due to the shock of what had happened so in a final attempt to give them one last shock and get them talking we decided to sic our rabid dog, the USSR, on them.
They quickly surrendered at this point.

However, the effects of the radiation is still very apparent in modern day Japan.

>>4282632
Oh, that's what you meant. Gotcha.

>>4280304
Ever hear about the japanese birth rate epidemic? Yeah this is a side effect.

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>>4280304
>Why is Japan so fascinated with old men fucking young girls?

It's my biggest fetish. :)

POST MOAR!

>>4280304
Literally 80% of all hentai is rape

>>4280304
Bacause the young guys aren't fucking them

I heard that it was that viewers would not feel ashamed by watching it. The less relatable the person fucking the girl is, the less shame and guilt the japanese viewer feels.

Something like that anyway.

>>4280304
The average age in Japan is 50, and the population as a whole is getting older at an incredible rate. So naturally their porn caters to that by showing old men fucking young girls.

>>4281286
This

>>4284950
That seems unlikely since a lot of hentai also have a generic young guy with straight black hair covering his eyes fucking the girls too, and I'm sure that's supposed to be more relatable to the younger crowd.

>>4280304
The whole degrading aspect. It's why there's often doujins of girls being fucked by fucking pigs. I feel your pain though, its far easier to get off on straight shotas fucking girls than fat pigs

>>4281039
I'd actually waay prefer that
cant the guy just be aesthetically pleasing?

>>4281331
no, then it would be disgusting

>>4280304
I'm pretty straight, but I would way prefer it if the guys were kind of cute desu.

I thought it was because of the slut factor, like these girls love dick so much it doesn't matter who's giving it to them or what they look like, they go wild either way.

>>4280304

The craze is about the degradation of cute anime girls being dominated by their lust and supposed female instincts that would make them helpless to the pure ecstasy this older, unattractive, but very sexually talented man can give them.

I think it's an aspect for more hardcore hentai fans that have watched hentai long enough to not be surprised by anything anymore imo. I'm personally bored of watching some generic faced/relatively attractive guy obviously getting anime ass from generic, "oh I have big tits AND green hair so I'm different" anime girls, in predictable main character-esque fashion - its boring, and the scenes are boring too. For all that, I'd go watch some real porn. The only anime in recent memory that actually took a cool character and made the scenes fappable was Rance - but that's it for me for the last two years - games where you literally self insert not counting. I need some background or a fetish-y concept to get going these days with only weak concepts and poor animation dominating the 2016(?) market.

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>>4282947
Same here. Just old men fucking fertile young women bareback and knocking them up. I'm 22 and I don't get it, but I nut so hard I don't care.

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>>4285620
And that's all I got on my mobile. Not all of it is bad.

>>4280878
This actually kinda turns me on Anon

>>4285155
desu?

>>4281286
why is that cool?

>>4280304
This.
Why the hell cant we have hot girls having sex with cute shotas?

>>4281286
It looks like he's blackmailing her in that pic. How is that cool?

I have not read all the replies, so I apologise If someone already said it...IMO it's because it's in demand...some people like that stuff so the artists draw what the fans will BUY...of course there are a lot of different genres and people, but you'll MOSTLY find the old dudes in rape and NTR, there's always vanilla for good looking guys...obviously there are exceptions, u just have to find them...

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>>4281000

>>4280416
Lol

>>4286021
but I'm straight

degradation

>>4281039
i love /ss/ so i don't mind that

>>4286096
>muh cute guys
Doesn't seem like it

>>4280335
> because their whole life is spent on work.

And this is why japan is having birth problems, they simple put work over everthing.

The old age of the male is just one factor that feeds into the greater idea of repulsive, overweight, creepy, homeless, overeager sex-crazed perverts who exploit fresh innocent girls for defilement.

THIS is my biggest fucking fetish and nothing gets me off quite like it. The way a fat little cock covered with warts explode inside some fresh, juicy pussy. How the dignity of a once unattainable girl deteriorates as these degenerates repeatedly throb their filthy lust in their dark sex lairs, day after day. The delight that these degenerates take in lobbing chunks of spew into her precious flower at will.

I'm a pretty good looking guy in his late 20's, and I LIVE for this stuff.

Because it is very old society.

>>4284951

This.

+6 years ago, It was mostly middle aged or young guys, even in degradation material.

The frequency of old men started going up in around 2014.

>>4285889
watch it. it actually has a pretty happy ending

>>4280304
>Why is Japan so fascinated with old men fucking young girls?

It happens very often, I knew a girl who consistently slept with a 50yr dude, he had money and things and she was very into wearing brand name shit.

>>4286216
This. Corruption is one of my biggest fetish.
A young girl defiled by a fat creepy old fart is always awesome. It's even better when you know that enkou is really common in japan and that 50's salary man who fuck young girls from high school even middle school for money is real.

>>4280304
>why is Japan anything

Nukes.
Two in fact.

>>4286614
Well at least your guy apologized now.

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>>4282335
According to OP and people like him, yes.

>>4286246
>Not other Anon

Checking out the first installment now, and I'm surprised how much I'm enjoying the non-fapping parts. Old guy is actually cool!

Thanks for the rec, anon. I'll be looking into the other parts after a quick break.

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>>4280304
Humiliation for the woman.

It's my fetish :3

>>4280304
Most hentai is for Salary man Otaku who is buying the mags.

>>4286146
Asia culture in general is so stressful to act like you are a robot that only work and have to act like you are perfect and be so fucking polite...it drive you fucking crazy. No wonder japan , korea and china have some serious social issues. Is so bad that asian men in general dont want to date asian women. They are so tired of everything that they hate real sex and they rather fuck a pillow. Asia need to stop being so fucking hard worker and relax a little bit.

>>4286138
But I seriously am straight.
I didnt say the guys had to be the main focus, I just said that if there must be guys they may as well be cute

>>4287635
they draw the guys ugly to make you think " if he can hit that, so can I."

>>4287929
yeah, but I think thats stupid, I rather the scene be visually appealing

What is the name of the hentai from ops picture

>>4280878
from the Anime Nisha rokubou no shichinin

>>4290142
Garden the Animation.

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>>4285610
I'm 31 and I've had the fetish since I was probably around your age or even younger. I don't get it either. It's not like I'M old or gross looking. I workout and still get id'd when buying liqour.

I know it's not to do with exploitation either, because I'm okay with them being happy together as well.

Knew a 17 year old girl that graduated and IMMEDIATELY started dating one of her teachers from highschool. I thought it was hot.

>>4280326
what about the people who don't get off to people getting degraded

>>4280304
I'm pretty sure deep down it makes the viewer feel better. Just by him knowing, or at least thinking, that he is better than the guy fucking the girl. It's just something subtle that adds to upping the viewers experience. Now I don't know if this would be completely true, but maybe seeing a really attractive guy fucking a girl will deep down give the viewer a little jealousy.

>>4280304
The more disgusting it is the more depraved it becomes, and that's just fine by me.

the bigger the disparity the better, who cares why?

>>4291235
Id rather see buff guys fucking girls.
Its always skinny MCs shotas or fat old men. Give me Conan like character.

>all these people preferring attractive guys and cute shotas to fat old men, orcs and pigs

You are literally homosexual, or bisexual, in case you want to be extra special snowflake. I bet you like shots of the male's face as he cums too.

>>4292154
>wanting to see a fat mans face as he cums

>>4291235
As a voyeurism fetishist, I disagree. Nothing irks me than seeing something ugly with something more decent.

Even more so if I read mind control and time stop on the usual source and a lot of them nowadays involve fat and/or ugly men.

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Who cares why they do it, so long as they keep making it.

Pic related, that guy makes some of the best of that subject matter, but not as much anymore.

>>4280304

who cares, are you a faggot or something?

>>4282631
nijie is not really that popular anymore (I guess) Or maybe is new? Almost nothing is uploaded there.

Japs are eating twitter for pictures now. And I fucking hate it because you can't reverse image twitter pictures.

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That's degrading because it's not right by society standards. A young girl isn't supposed to fuck with a man 30 years older than her and that's why it's a fetish.
Most of the time it's about corruption of the girl. Maybe they think that old men have a lot of experience to drive crazy a young maiden during sex. It's pretty hot when they use the "he can teach her about real sex unlike young guys" argument.

>>4293106
Older men isnt a problem. Its fat ugly men.

Here's what I think. Old fat ugly whatever men symbolize the lowest of the low (sorry ..), which implies these super hot girls will bang anyone. In other words, they're easy. So whoever has women problems or fantasizes about them, it's a turn on to "know" the awesome girls can also fuck them, assuming it's consensual.

If not, then it's the degrading factor or whatever that also appeals well to many.

>>4287425
Where is this from?

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>>4293120
>Older men isnt a problem. Its fat ugly men.
Well yeah it's even more degrading if the old man is ugly or/and fat.

To be honest it's quite unusual for an old man to be still attractive in women's eyes, especially young girls. When you grow old you are supposed to become uglier with the time.

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>>4293138
Pretty accurate. Whenever I find time to roleplay these days, they're some of my favorite partners to pair with my character, a roguish Heroine type in a fairly typical fantasy world.

Top of the ladder and the bottom of it, a real fall from grace sort of angle, total unworthiness for such a hot/capable/etc woman (Best with smart/powerful/etc women), especially when you mix it up with some pic-related, as I like to. Consensual is best, the woman actually falling for the man, turning out to be just as perverted as they are, and diving into a meager, peasant life of depravity. More or less.

Sorry to rant.

>>4280304
dude who has been living in korea for a number of years has a blog and the following is an interesting post

https://klownisms.wordpress.com/2015/04/10/k-pedo/

>>4280304
Old salarymen are a huge demographic. Which is why they are so common as hentai protagonists.

>>4281039
love it

>>4287929
Really don't care about that. I don't want a self esteem boost I just want to jerk off.

why do so many guys have to humiliate/degrade women just to get off?

>>4293339
It depends on the girl, imo. And of course, it depends on the mood and emotional status of the guy, too.

For me, if the girl is arrogant or bitchy or deserves some reprimand, it's satisfying to see her humbled down.
But I guess that's super subjective.

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They always seem to come up with the most perverse acts, or maybe it's just that they're so crude that makes it that way. So good though.

>>4280304
You will understand when your older and the only tail you can pull has tits that sag, shapeless asses, and no teeth.

>>4293339
Most women could stand to be knocked down a few pegs.

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Elves love them too

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Best if they're in armor, a uniform, or nice clothes, or some indication of status/power/etc though.

>>4293339
It's not that there's many of them, it's more that they're just very loud and visible.

It's like how 82% (92% in the UK) of women aren't feminists, but the feminists shriek louder than the rest so everyone pays attention to them.

>>4286216
You described it to perfection. Cheers anon, glad to see other sick fucks in this world.

>>4286216
It's astounding how there are people who are too dumb to understand a humiliation/degradation fetish. It's up there as one of the most common among both genders but somehow everyone thinks it's about self insertion.

there's one episode that I remember that there are two girls, dont remember if they are sisters, and they are wearing swimsuits. They are on a blowjob competition that the loser will be punished. I think the guy is the old guy rapes everyone type. Can someone source me on this one?

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Is it as humiliating/degrading if they're into it? It's best that way.

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Don't hate it, feel the bletch

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>>4298711
It is. It means that she's such a slut that she will even fuck with old men.

>>4298696
Seifuku Collection episode 2?

>>4280304
Older men have enough money to actually buy the stuff from the artists, while some horny teenagers just pirate stuff.

>>4280999
mirror mirror on the wall

give me the fucking source

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Tomboys dig them too.

The real question isn't why they're old, but why they're all so damned ugly.

>>4280304
Why would you care about the guy. What are you, fucking gay?

>>4280304
Because Japan :D

>>4280304
>young boys
>having a clue what girls or women want
Overly romanticized, stuttering, clueless mess - wouldn't be much of a hentai. Only good for passive roles (femdom) and betrayed part in NTR.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.

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Best Outcome

>>4301400

Hell yes it is.

>>4295150

>>4280878
Younger guys being raped by fat / ugly older women is my fetish, anyone know of any decent stuff

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I'm under the impression that it's largely to provide contrast.

When paired with characters that are ugly, old or masculine, it emphasizes how pretty, youthful and feminine the woman is.

>>4280304
I think a combination of the first two comments.

Japan's birthrate is declining is what I heard so there must be a growing demographic of old guys...

>>4301621
very good point

Femanon here highly turned on by this stuff. Literally no idea why, maybe cuz the women being overly submissive.

I have the same question for sounds ... sometimes hentai have some good design, good story and all but those motherfucking splurting / spalshing sounds ... "HELLO I FUCK YOU AND IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M STIRRING MACARONI AND CHEESE IN YOUR VAGINA" .. that utterly disgusts me and it saddens me so much when aside that the rest seems fantastic :|

Miko are top tier for this.

>>4280304
Because for some reason the art is always better in this case. To better reflect the contrast, I think.
Idgaf, the art is better, thats why I like it.

Guys liking to fuck younger women... what's there not to get?

>>4282508

Go fuck yourself.

>>4302642
Try harder.

>>4300326
Source?

>>4300093
onna kishi sei ruruna or something.

>>4302952
nooooooo!
Cynthia was so bae!
why did you pahggot have to do this!

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>>4302967
Think again.

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>>4302977
and again

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>>4302981
and one more time.

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>>4302982
actually no, one more.

>>4282632

USSR is worse than any nuclear bomb.

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Let me guess OP.

Pic related raped a girl you really liked?

>>4281039
Why can't the guy fade into the background, artistically speaking? Why such extremes?

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>>4303137
If you can't make out at least some details of the man then it loses the punch. It may as well be another generic 0% body fat anime guy then.

Another seal of fit girl approval for these fellas.

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>>4303137
Maybe as close as you can get though I suspect it's not what you'd like.

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>>4303225
Look how happy she is over his cock. Old man route was really the best route in this eroge.

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>>4303225
>>4303251
That's just her fatty classmate in these scenes though.

>>4303313
Name?

>>4303850
That's an old classic anon. "The Duchess of Busty Mounds" or "Mamahaha" in japanese.

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>>4303861
>mfw this masterpiece is now fully translated in english

>>4303858
Cheers, i checked duchess prior with little result. Thanks for both titles.

>>4303022
He doesn't rape anyone, nice try.

>>4303978
sauce

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>>4304007
the artist is ohtomo takuji

>>4304007
>>4304010
Tanks anon; I found it, "Kono, Hikyoumono!!"

>>4293287
Why is he living in a place that he seems to hate?

>all of the saucefags itt

>>4303865
The game or ova?

>>4280989
It's exactly the same reason why hentai/porn often focuses on "slutty" women.
If she's willing to fuck some ugly fat guy, then that's exactly the same as her being more slutty: more sexually available/attainable.

OF COURSE she'd fuck you. Look at how much of a slut she is; she'd fuck anyone anytime, so there are no obstacles worry about!

>>4304669
Both but i was talking about the game.

>>4304709
Who translated the game?

>>4304718
Some anon from /vg/ if i remember, he uploaded his translation and posted the mega link in a thread. You can find the prepatched version on nyaa.

>>4304729
Holy shit for real? Thanks man ill check it out

>>4285615
I need sauce on that, stat.

Guys are only supposed to look cute on girl oriented doujin

Personally, I like it because it seems to make the women look 10x prettier by comparison. It also brings them down to a level where I could easily self insert because she's obviously willing to fuck anything with a penis.

>>4304769
Then learn to use Google. It's 2016, you have no excuse anymore.

>>4293287
"And what better way than to sexualize minors and then make the actual act of sexual violation of said minors a sort of decriminalized “vice”. Fuck this place. It makes me feel physically revulsed. I’m not even going to bother linking the news articles for this post. You go ahead and Google it. "

tell me what to google. i want to learn more, and you don't get very far with "south korea" and teen girl.

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>>4280304
I'm 34, pretty overweight and have a receding hairline.
Forever alone and a weeb; this type of hentai is right up my alley. I've smashed my share of prostitutes - but I won't be able to nail a hot young girl in scenario commonly present manga and animations, so that fantasy is what I've got.

>>4304982
Try sex tourism

>>4280304
>just went in here after /a/ to try find something else
>first thread to see is this fat one
If you are the same faggot of the buddha hentai shit that keep shitposting on /a/ please end yourself you are getting into my fucking nerves

>>4280304
whats worse is the oversaturated amount of NTR cuck and cheating, some of the best artists exclusively do cuck-stuff and it i a real bone killer when i finally find art that doesnt look like a 9 YO drew it and its some (fat fuck or gangster somehow tricks airhead into sex until she loves it). I respect peoples interest in it but fuck, can't the good artists do some vanilla or maybe reverse NTR once in awhile? (the guy cheating on the girl never seems that wrong in hentai)

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Not all that ugly, but close enough for good art.

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How about a little love?

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>>4305125
And a bit more. Two-timing guy is lucky.

>>4282621
Which put them on par with the average american's brain.

>>4286687
What?

>>4280304
>Why is Japan so fascinated with old men fucking young girls? There are so many hot characters in hentai that end up getting fucked by some hairless, ugly dickhead. Can anyone explain this to me?
The best hypothesis I can muster is that perhaps they're turned on the the juxtaposition of the ugly man and the lovely girl. Kinda like how one might use salt to contrast the sweetness in caramel, an ugly man provides a contrast for the woman that makes her seem more attractive by comparison.

>>4303542
>fucked by homeless men
Something about this is hot

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>>4292935
that nigga look like a potato with legs

>>4305853
Well, it's better than him being *actively* distracting, I suppose.

young nubile girls getting dick-drunk by experienced, well-endowed old men despite finding them repulsive? Yeah, can't imagine why anyone would find girls resisting (because the men are so fuckin hideous) and eventually giving into carnal pleasure hot.

>>4280304
Because fat mc don't get a chance in anime

Plus all the best artist draw these kind of things

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Does anyone here read urakan
Probably my favourite old man/shotacon doujin

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>>4280464
HERE YOU GO

>>4281263
then you're retarded and you dont deserve the spoonfeeding.

>>4285872
You should watch it. He's actually not a chode.

>>4280304
It's not even restricted to hentai even in [spoiler] 3DPD JAV [/spoiler] there are men of all shapes ages and sizes doing scenes with young women.

>>4306108
I love the way he draws women, wish there weren't so many old wrinkly grandpas. To me thats worst then fat bald guys. But oh well.