trap thread

>>9348575
Source?

>>9348555
Keep on bumpin nigger

>>9348555
Kek and check

>>9348575
Niiiice

>>9349275
Sauce

>>9348555

KEKkekekek that has to be staged or one of those weird dynamic fetishes.

Would love a source or moar or longer just know it isn't going to happen

>>9349081

KEK everytime. Is there any more of this.

>>9349275
Was great until the guy started talking.

Where da webms at?

>>9349275
Source please

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who dis

>>9350968
Who indeed?

>>9350968
sauce!!

>>9349280
SAUCE!

>>9349081
should have some intial d music at the end coming in as the motorcycle does

>>9349280
why the long face

>>9348555
>casually talking to mom while jerking of in front of her
This is my fetisch now.

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Anyone know the source or name?

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>>9353380
This one too.

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Found it the other day, anyone has sauce ?

>>9353755
lolatrap on tumblr

>>9353380
alisha
>>9353393
andressa alves

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anyone have more of this

Or where to find

>>9349066
she waaaaay over did it

>>9354335
thanks senpai

>>9353380
lol chicken legs.

>>9353380
http://m.xhamster.com/movies/1189349/tranny_alisha_with_ricky.html#

>>9355048
guess you can never really fix the voice huh

>>9355147
Yeah his voice is damn annoying

>>9354713
Anyone have a source for this?

>>9355492
siena grace

>>9349066
She should've never fucked with her face.

Add me on Tumblr : hokjesdiefstal.tumblr.com

My ass is decent.

Need some followers guys. ;)

>>9348555
I like how you can see her jaw clench when her mom is spewing that bullshit.

>>9357114

Yea...

i want sauce.

It seems to me to be some mommy daughter/son? fetish thing tho.

>>9348555

UHm.. Sauce?

sauce op

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bump

>>9349452
which one

>>9359630
sauce anyone?

>>9348555

i cant stop laughing, love kaity, but this is just.... fucking nostradamus

>>9355939
why no more cum shows :/

>>9349280
>>9351331
I agree sauce is needed

>>9348555

wish i could just drink a couple of beers and smoke a joint wirh her, not even fucking or anything just hang and chill

>>9359682
kitty linn she has a tumblr

>>9359646
kek

>>9353755
I like my sluts locked up

>>9360305

>she

>>9354522
rayraysugarbutt

>>9349081
Still one of the hottest videos in trap porn ever

>>9351401
Kek

>>9348555

That is fucking hilarious, thanks Katie.

>>9348575
Holy shit, source.

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making webms from a stream happening right now

>>9367128
>>9367148
Who are these 2?

>>9367904
the one on the right's chaturbate is 'surpriseitssteak'
she's also famous from the webm of her jerking off and making severe autism faces. shes got a hot body and tits now apparently. i recorded the last 40 mins of the show

>>9355492
>http://www.ashemaletube.com/videos/205500/skinny-shemale-sienna-grace-anal-ripped/
^Sienna Grace & Christian
another great scene...
>http://www.ashemaletube.com/videos/197053/tranny-sienna-grace-fucked-hotbabe-mandy/
^Sienna Grace & Mandy Muse

>>9348555
>>9357235
>>9357389
>>9357237
>http://www.ashemaletube.com/videos/135232/sweet-selfsucking-from-teen-tgirl/
^Kitty Kaiti

>>9367128
>>9367148
>>9367904
>http://surprise-itssteak.tumblr.com/
Twitter : @surprisesteak

>>9368013
Minor stats+rules of them
>http://surprise-itssteak.tumblr.com/post/150096704072/a-quick-look-at-the-wip-bio-image-ive-been?is_related_post=1

>>9349066
RUINED

>>9367934
i want to see that webm

>>9359797
>>9351331
Brithanyxx I belive, has cams of using an OhMiBod, top tier stuff.

>>9368013
isn't this the one that went by partialasian

Does anyone have webms of Natalie Mars and Sue Lightning thanks senpai

>>9348555
Pretty cool to be able to jerk it in front of your parent. Want to se more of this. Do not want to try it myself though.

>>9370187
I forget this one's name. I think Candy? She was in that old Candy-Dada video, but I've definitely seen more from her. She's fucking awesome and gets really aggressive and into it, but I can't seem to find any of the others I remember seeing.

>>9359808
him, it's got a penis you fucking degenerate

>>9370761
There's 3 vids of her as candy for the same website, one very old one before implants as Mercedes, and two solo vids that may or may not be her under yet another name that I can't remember.

I've researched this extensively and that's all there is. The solo vids aren't really worth it and the Mercedes one is only available in shit quality.

>>9348555

>Ex-trucker (still young, like 25 atm)
>So many goddamn traps and trans all over the place
>Had a lot of them ask if they wanted to hang out in my truck
>I liked gals, but masturbated to trap stuff secretly (more of a fetish than an irl turn on)
>Never did turn my kink/fetish fantasy into a reality
>Oh well

>>9348575
more

>>9348575
Wow she is so hot! Please provide a source!

>>9370822
Retard, he's retarded you fucking wanker

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thoughts?

>>9377202
why are dripping you sissy slut.

>>9377228
can't help it!

>>9368023
>3.5 inches
I didn't know they could actually be that small unless it was a medical condition

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>>9377202
>those hips
more?

>>9357114
>her

>>9377388
I don't have any other webms recorded. any requests?

>>9377478
you people are just as annoying as the "she's a her now!" people. I don't give a fuck

>>9377493
idk anything with those hips accentuated pretty much and cum?

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>>9377722
I get off on feedback

>>9378038
That's a cute cock, lets see that ass tho.

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>>9378038
how are you hips so prominent?? are you an actual trap? fug, i need more content. do you have tights? a name?

>>9349066
id still fuck

Anyone got that clip of the trap in the harem outfit with a chastity device on?

>>9353393
Nasty

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can i get a name or sauce on the video

im looking for a clip of an asian ladyboy, i used to have the video but i dont anymore, but i can explain it pretty good.

basically this was the biggest, pretty good thickness sized cock i had ever seen. honestly it beats nobody i saw, not john holmes, not mint or whoever the fuck that is.

there was a guy filming, and she takes off her clothes and it bounces out. he is amazed. and near the last few minutes she is laying down and you can see how big it is and he jerks it off and shit. i fucking cant find it.

there was also another video of a shemale/ladyboy of her dick dancing to cum. no hands. nothing. the dick literally went from soft to hard in a minute or two and came. i was so sure it was on porn.com, but searching for it directly doesnt bring anything up at all

>>9377256
You fucker

>>9378537
dickbutt with ranch

>>9370171
Who is she?

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>>9378077
it's a mystery to me too. I've never taken hormones and I never will. My best guess is that I was a little overweight last year and lost about 20lbs since and I still have some to lose but I did a lot of squats the entire time.

I have no desire to pass as a girl, I just want to be a skinny twink fucktoy and wear sissy stuff.

You're seeing the first of my content, I've lurked femboy threads for a while but haven't posted much until now. First priority is getting a camera that stays in focus for more than 10 seconds, then objects to put up my butt. Expect panties and thigh highs in the future. I don't have a name to go by yet but I'm open to suggestions!

>>9378053
anything else?

>>9379778
Not bad. I like your bottom.

Go to amazon for toys. Best prices anywhere.

>>9379778
Do you have any sharpies?
Plastic kitchen utensils with rounded handles?

What have you shoved up there?

>>9379799
thank you!
are the packages discreet? I don't want my roommate to know I'm a deviant
>>9379813
I think the biggest thing I've taken was a thick screwdriver handle. honestly it didn't do much for me, I'm sure it's user error. prostate orgasms look amazing and I've tried at it, but I don't know what I'm doing. I've heard it takes at least a week of nofap and that's scary because my libido goes through the roof sometimes and I lack the self-control to not jerk it

>>9379864
>are the packages discreet?

Nigga I once had my mom hand me a box of Amazon buttplugs. You'll be fine.

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>>9379864
Just amazon boxes. Sometimes the company names deviant but that only happened with free for review stuff.

Don't try too hard on the prostate orgasm. Once I thought I was soooooo close so I went harder faster and my butt hurt for a week after. I had one once but that was with someone else shoving the dildo in. I imagine if you just practice solo you can get the act of plugging yourself automatic enough that the pleasure is the main focus. It isn't just physical, for some people it's also in the head pleasure.

Personally (and I'm getting good at this) I thing it's also pretty hot to force a constant precum flow with prostate stimulation and loin flexing.

And start edging. Every day. you gotta get used to it I'd you want that cute lil cock to gush out a maximum load on camera.

Anal exercise: tense your loins like your trying to stop your piss flow and keep it clenched as long and hard as possible. Do that three times in a row.
The fourth time, as your loins relax try to keep that relaxation constant.
That's how you relax your sphincter.
Do it in a variety of positions. I do it all the time and it really helps for getting voluntary control over the muscle.
Turned me into a size queen.

Better post something to look at with all this text....
A goal for both of us...

>>9378038
I want to squeeze those little nuts

>>9377202
>>9378038
>>9379778
All saved.
What kind of camera? Are there settings, physical or software regarding focus? Usually auto focus can be turned off.
I don't mind the blurry for now though, let's see some more!
Need pose ideas?

>>9380127
microsoft life-cam HD 5000, all the settings are software based, I just found and turned off the auto focus for it

I'd love suggestions!
I have to go to work soon but if you leave ideas for me I'll get to them tonight c:

>>9380212
Ooooh ideas...
The classic ass shake with dick tucked, hard and soft.
Let's see your asshole, maybe with some finger action.

A cumshot with a little stroking before then you let go before the spasm. Love to watch your little cock pulse as it spurts.

Do you play with your cum? Use it as lube and finger your ass as you soften.

Close up of your cock as semen drips down the shaft and balls.

The real question: curious about sounding at all?

>>9380058
Thank you for the advice! good luck
>>9380091
don't do that! :c
>>9379881
I'd probably get kicked out if they found out
>>9380261
these are doable except for tucking when I'm hard, if I'm fully torqued I can't bend it that far or it'll snap
I'd give sounding a try but it looks really painful, could you elaborate?

>>9380389
I got turned on a bit when I read that you get too stiff to bend at the base. A small cock that gets fully hard beats any floppy monster erection. My little guy is the same, stiff means fucking STIFF.

I got a lot to say about sounding so I will post again later and tell you all about the joys.

>>9380389
Sounding...
It does look painful to some, just like anal looks painful. And just like anal it can be a little painful at first or when you stretch up in size.
Consider this: the nerves in your tip go down a little but not far, like the nerves in your asshole. The metal sliding along them feels great, just as sliding something into your ass does. Your making an entrance out of an exit, so a little pain is to be expected.

The pressure of the rod in your shaft does not hurt at all. It actually enhances the pleasure of stroking. Immensely.

Sounding, like any other deviant activity, is not as dangerous as everyone seems to thing. A small lubed rod will literally just fall into your erection, and as long as you stick to only forcing a rod it to the length of your shaft there is little danger. When the rod won't slid in easily anymore, time to let it rest in.

Your first try you do want to get something long enough to at least halfway fill your shaft and keep ahold of it.
Use plenty of lube.

Recommended tools to try it before buying a sounding kit:
Metal crochet hook with rounded end opposite the hook. You can even to a strong to the hook if your afraid of losing it.
If you can get ahold of metal chopsticks they are great. Thin enough it won't stretch the average urethra at all.

The general thing to go for is polished metal with a round tip.

I hope you try and love sounding. It is a whole new was to enjoy your cock, and once you orgasm with a rod in you will know true bliss.

If you want my kik for tips on sounding or advice on sexy things to do tell me I will post it.

thinking of buying a sex machine. Any recommendations?

>>9382151
a fast one :3

>>9354579
>>9355965
>>9360305
>>9367934
>>9370761
>>9377117
>>9377501
>>9378591
>>9379092
>it's not even a tranny or shemale thread
>it's just a fucking trap thread
>retards still say she

>>9382432
Once you put on the dress you become she. Sorry if that offends the shemales and trannies.

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>>9380261
I got red spots on my bum from shaving yesterday, how do I make them go away?

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>>9380261
OC delivery

>>9383670
spank that slutty ass untill those cheeks match and blend with the bumps.

>>9383670
use lotion and shave regularly

>>9384080
>>9384117
I'll do both! thanks!

>>9383670
I used Nair for my pubes ant got no burns or anything get the bikini edition kind it's like $8 a bottle.

>>9377202
i wanna kiss that body all over

>>9382432
dude, theyre supposed to emulate girls/ They look like girls therefore you refer to them as she. Its otherwise theme breaking

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>>9380058
dear god, there needs to be more handsfree cuming videos.

>>9384319
never had much luck with nair
>>9385885
I'm listening

>>9377256
thanks, made my night.

>>9378411
For the love of God, somebody please have this. It sounds amazing.

So why are chicks with dicks so much better than "real" grills again?

>>9389542
because I'm bi and like dicks but men are aesthetically meh

>>9389542
its probably the dicks. just a guess tho

>>9355939
Nice framerate m8

>>9389542
theyre only better when im in a sex drought and dont have a gf so they pass the time in terms of porn genre

once i obtain said gf thoughts go away and its back to being straight

>>9390511
>implying you dont still wanna cheat on your girlfriend by fucking a qt trap and sucking their dick while watching netflix while you have a girlfreind

dont ever play yourself

>>9390535
>implying i want to suck dick

i find it repulsive but if i was sucked off by a qt3.14 trap i wouldnt mind

>>9390542
>implying you dont enjoy those big floppy dicked traps

why fight it my man?

>>9390550
the feminine penis the better anon

>>9390586
big penises can be feminine tho, friendo

>>9390596
never seen one personally if what you say is true

>>9359646
top keks

>>9349280
Sauce ?

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Hi guys, this i my first time doing anything like this. Sorry for the piss poor quality but it's all I have atm.

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>>9391225

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>>9391228

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>>9378387
hnng jess, I'd rape this racist bitch in a minute

>>9391527
racist?

>>9348555
holy shit are we gonna talk about how flexible he is for a guy

>>9391677
yh he refuses to fuck black guys and immigrants

>>9391735
so sexual preference is now considered racist? good lord, get over your inferiority complex you mong

>>9391735
>salty nigger detected

>>9391775
No spics, no niggers. White cock all day.

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>>9351401
Made this just for you.

goo
.gl
/2Z9FCp

File size limitations make me post it as a link

>>9348555
why do you gay losers have to pollute /b/ AND this board too, like fuck off

>>9392055
except traps have been on 4chan since its very inception. your newfaggotry is showing.

>>9391239
>>9391228
>>9391225
Any more?

>>9392104
If you are implying this site started in 2014, then yes, since it's very inception.

>you film yourself sticking things up your butt and nobody replies

>>9392137
traps have been a thing since 05 you dink

>>9391819
that was good

I feel like the music should've started fainter tho, and a few seconds before the bike is actually seen

>>9391819
exactly what he said >>9392737


still a very good job lmao

>>9350968
Macaulay Culkin

>>9348555

what kind of a relationship is it between a mother and a son where the son fingers `himself infront of his mother while in drag?

WHAT. THE. FUCK?

>>9383751
Your cute but plump cock is so perfect. I'd frot you sore.

>>9393068
its not kaiti's mom, it was her roomate.

>>9370187
filename kek

>>9386094
Holy shit I need sauce

>>9349066
>that fucking twitching from her body rejecting the plastic surgery
jesus christ I can't WAIT to see what this looks like in 5-10 years

>>9349408
>>9362895
Doesn't post very often unfortunately

http://www.xtube.com/profile/mirei_-7767710#videos

>>9393201
oh gosh you're making me leak

>>9393355

>>9393355
sauce?

>>9379092
" Farrah Lovely" posts nudes occasionally on snapchat and has a semi goldmine on tumblr if you're willing to through his/ her singing horribly

>>9349280
Goofy

>>9353380
Gears of War

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>>9394044

>>9349280
What rhymes with breath?

>>9382432
Oh goody. It's this jackass again.

>>9349275
Sauce plx

>>9348555
Dude this can't be real. Fucking saved lol

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Anyone know who?

>>9392468
More like 04

>>9391735
>refuses to fuck black guys and immigrants
like the majority of the planet, sadly.

>>9397318
lol thats what you'd like to think. 9/10 american chicks that go to college are gonna fuck a black dude. and at white campuses, black dudes are like 5% of the student body. so theyre fucking literally every chick on campus in rotation

>>9395988
Someone sauce me on this please

>>9395988
oh boy, who is this?

>>9397318
>sadly

>>9393355
Holy shit.

>>9349280
how could she shot so massive whit flaccid cck?

>>9397318
>sadly.
>>9397384

Why so many niggers/cucks here

>>9378038
>>9379778
You have a nice dick and I'd like to make it leak all over while pounding you.

>>9348555
That's maybe the strangest thing i've ever seen

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Its me~

What do you call a trap that doesn't really want to dress like a girl? Searching "twink" only gives me absolute faggots with buzz cuts, so I want to know if I can find my really specific fetish.

>>9398531
yeah wtf is going on here

>>9398963
you call them men

>>9398905
>>9398909
Would bang repeatedly/10

>>9370822
You do realize that nobody here values your opinion, right?

>>9395988
>>9397551
>>9397579

Viviany Victorelly - She-Male Idol The Auditions #04, Scene #06

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>>9399181
>>9370822
Wait, that's a penis? I'm out of here?

>>9393355
HOW

when did assbro come back and make more content? is there a new archive?

>>9398466
I'm interested

>>9398963
femboys. i have the same fetish as you m8. really girl guys, femboy or femboi is as close as your gonna get. emo twink is good sometimes too

>>9400753
london?

>>9400764
US

>>9400768
NYC?

>>9400777
midwest

>>9400780
UT?

>>9400780
fug, im out. sign me up for more content tho. i fapped to those clips you posted. you should make an archive or a tumblr to collect all your content for my fapping purposes

>>9400787
What's UT?
>>9400789
Glad I could help! I kinda just did it for fun as a one-off thing, but I really like the attention so I'll probably do more. How do I archive?

>R: 224
>I: 46

>>9399927
who's assbro?

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>>9400877
assbro is
>>9393355
that fellow. he made a shit ton of webms. i have most of them. it was like a 12gb archive but there's new stuff that i dont have being posted so i must have missed something

>>9400825
you can upload your stuff to a folder on mega.nz and share that. it would be most appreciated. maybe come up with a trap name too? you deserve one with dem hips

>>9397384
keep living in your porn fantasy dweeb

Anyone has the one from the apathethic trap who was fapping with a death stare into the void?

>>9350968
Sauce?

>>9398905
Come and bounce that booty on me

>>9353393
>>9354335
All that gives me is some soccer player. Need more.

When did "trap" start meaning any obvious male in stockings?

Was something wrong with "crossdresser" or "transvestite" that another word had to be coopted, fucking with peoples' fetishes?

>>9395988
Do these trannies even feel their dicks? How do they get hard?

>>9403010
Sauce

>>9400932
BRUH! Id love to have more of assbro! I was searching for his stuff for quite a while!

>>9393359
It's been that long, she's very attractive now

>>9403255
depends on how much hormone replacement therapy they are taking. some of them can't because of the estrogen levels

>>9403220
Shortening. Trap is one syllable where as your suggestions are 3. People getting lazier

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some partialasian :)

>>9403288
proof?

more chastity belts while fucking ass please, either with dildo or dick, preferably with cum dripping out the cage.

>>9393068
That isn't her mom. At no point does she say mom. The subtitles are wrong. When the subtitles say "That's fake mom", she is actually saying "That's the fake one." Just listen to it.

>>9377478
>Idgaf

>>9350968
Kitty Lynn you mouth breathers.

>>9350968
we need sauce for this one.

>>9349081
vvvvvvvrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>9353755
btr when she doesn't show her face :7

>>9403010
LF sauce as well

>>9403263
>>9406642

Natalie mars
maybe marrs

>>9377620
Sauce?
Is this in OP's vid?

>>9404943
>no trap to suck me off ;-;

>>9405974
not even close retard

Hey dudes anyone know if the account Kar_Kar7 on chaturbate is actually Karolina or fake? Leaning towards fake

>>9411268
>Kar_Kar7
its not her. looks like a qt tho

>>9403263
>>9406642
http://xhamster.com/movies/6304853/natalie_mars_trailer_butt_fucked_and_cream_filled.html
If you can find the full video, shares would be nice.

Why can't I find a hot tyranny with a big cock to fuck? Am I looking the wrong places?

>>9411754
its a pretty rare thing in real life. most males have small dicks. a tiny percent of males are trans. a tinier percent of trans males have big dicks. an even tinier percent of that tiny percent actually want to use their dick. gotta get lucky m8.
with that said, as a 27 year old, i've been with 5 chicks over 9 inches. i started at 18 m8

>>9348575
That nose could cut glass

>>9370873
link to shit vdo?

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2MB, 426x240px

>>9355147
you could fill the room with helium.

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2MB, 800x450px

Who is this??

>>9348555
If i remember right she doesn't actually say mom and she's talking with her roommate while camming

>>9413264
Katzenmilch, german youtuber

>>9349081
That's not a trap, that's an ambush

>>9395988
fuckin andrew luck at the end of the video

>>9398963
search forced feminization captions on google

>>9383751
Your dick is a twin of mine

>>9349275
Sauce pls!!!!

>>9415096
can you make a similar webm please

>>9415096
show

>>9391225
>>9391228
>>9391239
Hrnnnnnnnnnngggg id suck and fuck till We're both insane

>>9391225
good stuff, thanks luv.

>>9391735
Vanilla, spice or rice. no chocolate my friend, niggers are not attractive, nor are most mexicans, gonna have to learn to deal with it.

>>9411668
not the exact video but close enough
ashemaletube.com/videos/225614/christian--natalie-skip-the-awards-to-fuckagain/

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4MB, 1920x1080px

mhh not sure if good enough but here is a webm i just made of me pouring a shit ton of oil on my ass.

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480KB, 404x305px

>>9350968
>>9350968
Pee Wee Herman's new "Big Adventure".

>>9415176
>>9416326
I dont know how to make a webm

>>9348555
When the subtitles say "that's a fake mom" it sound like she is saying "that was the fake one" and there is no other reference to the other woman being her mom, so its probably just some other person.

>>9417036
I fucking love it.
phallic objects being inserted when?

>>9417332

sauce?

>>9350968
Bump

a while ago there was a 'trap on girl' thread with webms of trap with small fem dick and a short haired blonde lesbian type chick. if any faggots have that then please poast it.

Where do you find traps irl

I'm losing weight so I can be better trap material, I aspire to have the tightest core of any trap

I'm making a lot of progress and you guys motivate me everyday

>>9391225
>>9391228
>>9391239
http://tdaniellemichaels.tumblr.com/

>>9400780
what state?

Anyone have the one clip of a jav with the trap getting creampied in the ass

>>9403278
https://mega.nz/#F!lp1XRAKD!ydI2JgarzmO3AUdKstVS9w

>>9411955
>>9411958
>>9411950
10/10, nice n'big too, damn

>>9417036
post more, please

>>9419765
>getting off on watching yourself getting off
this is some next level shit

>>9349275
please

>>9419821
lol i was doing that to make sure i was in view of the camera

>>9359646
nlol

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922KB, 1920x1080px

>>9420079
>getting off watching yourself get off to yourself
Do you have a tumblr? I love this shit.

>>9420538
no i don't only a reddit account

tumblr is cancer

>>9420572
I'll settle for a street address

>>9420577
69 nigga aids blvd chicago illinois

>>9420586
They renamed nigga aids blvd to Martin Luther King Ln. in 1968 you fucking liar

>>9357106
Wanna hook up bro? Im from belgium gimme ure snapchat

>>9409029
kitty kaiti

>>9378038
What state you in?

>>9349275
To those asking for sauce, this clip is the entire thing

>>9400780
MI

>>9418974
>>9420990
MI

>>9398905
>>9398909
+Jes,what happened to your Blog?

>>9379778

If you want help buying stuff to put yourself in, lemme know. :D

>>9349066
>fucking terrible into terrible

>>9389542
might be a power thing
maybe it's seeing a man is such a womanly and nonthreatening state gets my motor running

>>9395988
someone pls remove the sad monkey at end of webm

>>9377501
>>9405862

>I don't care!
>here let me reply to you to show you how much I dont care!
wew spotted the retard

nope. not dead yet

>>9422158
anything in mind?

>>9417332
wow. thank you asian genetics + hormones. that is unreal

bamp

>>9417278
forgive my stupidity but dear god who is this?