Cut Cock thread

>>8772097
Finally my favorite thing and there's like nothing here

Nigger, literally 95% of porn feature circumcised cocks.

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>>8772097
Fuck yeah ^^ I've tried convincing a couple uncut guys that fuck me to get cut, one if them really wants to do it now and I hope he does soon.

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>>8775030
Is this thread bait? Just ask him to pull his foreskin back instead of cutting parts of his dick off. Fuck you got my (you)

>>8773273
nothing here? the only thing missing here is the foreskin.

>>8775047
It's not that I dislike uncut, cut just turns me on. No bait, just fetishes for me.

Anyone got any before and afters? Its usually rare but hot to see some functional cock fucking some chick then later on cut and his only relief is to fuck because wanking isn't really an option. That's why I think it's hot, cause it turns a lot of men into pussy hounds.

>>8775179
Wanking uncut >> fucking pussy cut.

>>8775179

No woman is worth that, in my opinion

>>8773273
like 99% of porn is with cut

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>>8772097
REGENERATE YOUR FORESKIN WITH FOREGEN

>>8775179
I think this just became my fetish. Requesting please.

>>8775344
i feel alot of sensations wanking (cut).
just gotta do it in moderation otherwise it gets to be more of a chore than a pleasure.

>>8775040
sauce?

>>8772100
That sucks, thats the most sensitive part of the penis.

>>8777777

>>8772097
No thanks. I don't want to imagine being half a man.

>>8775030
Fucking why would you cut your foreskin off. I ain't gonna cut out my appendix, even if it doesn't do anything, so why should I cut off my foreskin?

>>8778863
OR GET LAID

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>>8775179
Sadly you're not really going to find that in gif form easily. Plenty of pics out there from guys who get it done, by only a handful of porn stars. I can't remember names but there are some, including a French actor with a huge cock that was circumcised due to medical reasons and he would frequently post about how much better it felt to be uncut before his low and tight circumcsision.

>>8778996
Hey you don't have to, I'm just saying g I get really turned on by being in control, and cutting off the most sensitive parts of your cock would really help me achieve that. ;3

>>8781058
the foreskin isn't "the most sensitive parts", it's just flappy skin, you fucking fag.

>>8775344
Maybe you should actually fuck a pussy before weighing in, faggot.

>>8772100
>>8778739
cut dicks don't lose the frenulum, what are you talking about. they are less sensitive, yes, but they only lose the foreskin.

>>8782377
Some get the frenelum cut out, others keep it. It adds pleasure but looks less streamlined.

>>8781068
it has the most nerve endings of any part of the penis.

>>8782377
You're wrong, some cut dicks do have the fren taken off to, but nice dubs.

>>8772097
May we have some sauce please?

>>8781058
this is my fetish too and I am uncut, if I found a cutie who preferred a thick cut dick I would get circumcised for them in a heartbeat :3

>>8787289
do it for me anon?

>>8787289
Why in the fuck would you do that. "If I saw some really nice food, I would cut my lips off"

>>8781058
I don't care the fuck you think, I ain't cutting myself up for reasons not medically inclined.

I never understood this hype about uncut cocks. I had to remove my foreskin at age 17 for medical reasons. Only notable difference was how much cleaner I got. No more of that smegma buildup ughhh. The funny thing is people say you lose sensitivity when you get cut... for me it's been the opposite :/

>>8775030
If you are for real it kinda makes me happy

>>8787289
what a fucking cuck faggot

>>8787445
I'm intact and I've never ever had smegma maybe because I shower once ever two days at least

>>8772097
I love that pop its like pricking a sausage with a fork

>>8787445
i shower once a day and clean my dick every time, never had smegma

the fuck is wrong with you

>>8781058
That's kind of hot anon

>>8787289

I'm uncut and enjoy the fantasy sometimes.. but I'd never actually do it. I enjoy having a foreskin too much...

...but it is kinky.

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>cocks
>but, the less-fun kind
>and I'm only gonna post in archaic, outdated, caveman.gifs

But still, cocks, sooooo enjoy some Jewboy James Deen on gross-but-dirty-hot Audrey Hollander.

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>>8790996

>>8787553
>>8787631
>Medical reasons
Foreskin was too tight I couldn't pull it back, so I couldn't clean properly

>>8791027
That can be treated with out surgery or with only a small one a full circ is unnecessary.

>>8787289
Nice ^^ the one who wants to get cut is kind of a pushover cos he's sort of a cuteboys who gets really girly moods and wants to be controlled. So I'll send him pics of traps with really high and tightly cut cocks, with clear color changes on the shaft, as examples of more obedient 'girls' who have gotten theirs properly circumcised.

The other guy I've had to be more subtle with. We browse boards like /gif/ and /d/ together while chatting on discord o or something and I'll always point out gigs with cut cocks, especially those where the guy is stroking it and it shows how much tougher out is, so he is at least thinking cut cock more. Though the one time I jokingly asked, he still says he'd rather not. I'm staying with him for a few weeks now and enjoying the uncut cock while it lasts :b

>>8791027
>phimosis
Yeah, no wonder you weren't enjoying your dick as much before, that's a crippling condition.

You don't need surgery to fix phimosis, usually, and even the times you do, you don't even need to remove the foreskin.

>>8772097
it's called mutilated, not cut.

It sure is Jewish in here

>>8781079
Uncutfag reporting in. Can confirm. You Jewcutfags will never know what you are missing out on.

>>8791027
Either you're lying or you should not have visited that Jew doctor. You could have had that fixed with minimally invasive treatments.

>>8774997
fake statistics are fake

>>8792745
>>8791455
The doctor did tell me I could fix the problem myself by stretching it daily. I chose not to because I had too much going on at the time and barely any privacy to be playing peekaboo with my dick.

>>8792358
My dick was fine as long as I didn't pull the skin back when I was hard which basically meant I could not have sex without some serious pain. I don't remember if there were other options to not remove it completely, but with the stress I was going through it was best to just get rid of it.

Either way I'm fine today, I enjoy my dick the way it is and my girls prefers them cut so I ain't complaining

I was diagnosed with phimosis when I was very young (around 7 years old) and was circumcised, so I never got to compare my sensitivity before and after. Can anyone that got a circumcision at an older age tell me if it's true that cut cocks are less sensitive? I only lost my foreskin btw, I still have my frenulum.

>>8794939
>Asking a Jew whore what kind of dick she likes.

Is anyone surprised by her reply?

>>8772097
So like, literally nearly all porn.

>>8795151

nah most girls ive met likes circumcised ones better

>>8795399
Only if you live in Israel, any of the ISIS states, or the United States of Jewmerica.

>>8795814
ameriscum as i like to call them

Love how this turned into a crying and name calling thread

>>8795370
You obviously aren't on this board much

>>8796469
You must be new here. Welcome to 4chan! Is it summer time where you're at?

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>>8796471
>>8796472

MFW

> That time stamp.
> That post number!
> That content
> That Hive Mind!

WTF

>>8795834
We're all cut here in Canada

>>8796540
No, we're not. You must be one of those dual citizenfags.

>>8795399
No, you idiot it's not true. And even if it was, they only believe that because in america there are not many uncut dicks.

>>8775085
underrated post

>>8796705
It's like 50/50 from what I heard cos people just stopped recently. Shame too.

>>8795814
South Korea has a higher circumcsision rate than the US, all those qts love cut cock.

>>8798192
> Implying that the practice of mutilating their penises wasn't introduced by Yankee Jews.

The Yanks fomented the growth of Christianity in the country, under whose influence Protestantism in particular rose (in conservative estimates) from 168,000 practicing members to 8.6 million today - somewhat less for Catholicism, though still having experienced the same explosive growth. In fact, the WHO finds that circumcision in Korea is of very recent origin (~50 years), making it rootless before Korea entered into US trusteeship in 1945-1948, its subsequent involvement in the Korean war, and military occupation thereafter. Circumcision is virtually unknown throughout the rest of Asia, with the exception of the Philippines, which incidentally also bears the bootprint of the US military as a heavy cultural burden, and to a lesser degree the lesser Islamicized Asian countries.

tl;dr The rise of cutfaggotry as a cultural phenomenon in Korea and elsewhere in Asia directly correlates with Yankee interference in and with those countries. Also, Islam.

>>8796540

noooope.

Came here for the dicks, left for the inevitable cut vs uncut debate.

I just wanna say : my boyfriend is cut and he still enjoys himself plenty ;)

>>8802705
my gf is cut and she still enjoys herself plenty.

whats the point of having a clitoris if she can orgasm when i finger her?

>>8802747
That's entirely different though...

Also in no way am I advocating circumcision, ass concept I find it quite despicable (unless it really is necessary) but I'm just saying for the guys that already have cut dicks.... It's not that bad. It's bad, but it's not that bad.

Love all dicks

Make dicks not war

>>8802765
Why is it different? Mutilation is mutilation.

Oh, I get it. It's different because it's a man and he should just suck it up. Right?

>>8804056
The equivalent to female circumcision on a man would be cutting off the entire head of the penis. The equivalent to male circumcision on a woman en would be to remove the clitoral hood which is a flab of skin that covers the clit. This isn't about defending women just because they are women, but in this particular case women have the worse end of the stick compared to men. Doesn't mean male circumcision is a good thing or should be accepted, but you can't just sit there and cry mutilation is mutilation when, even though they're both called circumcision, they are 2 very different/ procedures

>defending getting a bit of your dick cut off at birth without your consent
that some stockholm syndrome shit lmao

>>8775031

Sauce????

>>8804056
>>8804370
Exactly. Circumcision isn't cutting your fucking dick off so you have no sexual function like female genital mutilation is. You still have your whole dick and it's still an extremely pleasurable experience. Go ahead and tell me circumcision destroys all pleasure, and I'll just sit back and watch you get buttmad while I hear my boyfriends screams and moans-that he elicits due to the intense pleasure he gets from penile stimulation.


I still don't advocate circumcision on any person unless it is their choice, but Jesus Christ having a circumcised penis still leaves you with the whole rest of the penis,which still has an enormous amount of nerve endings.

Would sex be better with a foreskin? Yes. Is it awful, boring, or anything less than amazing without? No. It's still FUCKING great. So shut up and enjoy the dicks.

>>8804370
>The equivalent to female circumcision on a man would be cutting off the entire head of the penis.

A women must have wrote this.

The most sensitive part on my dick by FAR is the scar line of where I was circumcised, i cannot feel anything in my head.

The equivalent would likely have been a low circumcision that removed more mucousa skin. But hell, 60%-ish of it was removed already aswell as the other 2 most sensitive parts as already proven through a few studies.

>>8775040
>>8775044
salsa??

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>>8805306
>A women must have wrote this.
Nope I'm a guy and I'm circumcised. You might have had a shit doctor or you have some other condition that prevents you from feeling things properly. Could also be that you're full of shit and just mad or under pressure for being cut or something.

Either way sucks to be you. Most circumcised guys are perfectly functional with the only problem being pressure from visiting places such as 4chan that encourages you to kill yourself for retarded reasons such as having a smaller than average dick and/or no foreskin.

If anything just like you assumed a woman doesn't know jack shit about male circumcision, you're most likely not qualified to understand female circumcision, and your phantom unsourced study doesn't automatically make you right.

Here's some content for your butthurt

>>8772100
sauce please

>>8806452

pretty sure that guy isn't circumcised... not based on that clip, but based on that series.. I've seen a bunch of them and sometimes the skin isn't pulled back that far and it's clear he's not circumcised.

ALSO... the female equivalent of male circumcision would likely be the removal of the full clitoral hood AND labia minora. All that would be left is an exposed clit and an exposed urethra and vaginal opening.

>>8806452
Sauce plz?

>>8792355
Fuck off with your cuteboy nonsense you absolute virginal retard.

>>8806452
that dick is uncut you retard.

>>8787445
It takes time for the callouses to develop but it'll happen eventually. Your glans aren't supposed to rub against your clothes/sheets 24/7 and your body will adjust accordingly.

>>8807562
>Callouses
either you are uncut and have no idea what you're talking about or you have a serious problem and need to get that checked.
I was cut 11 years ago and never had such problems took me about a week to adjust to the exposed gland and never had any problems since.

>>8802705
This. Fuck you guys. We have uncut threads here constantly with no bitching from cut guys. Besides that you're fucking kidding yourselves if you say most porn has cut guys in it.

>>8806918
>Implying I don't regularly get fucked by these cocks
Why else would I want them to get cut, cut cock is great.

>>8809156
>cut guys don't bitch on uncut threads
Funny how uncuts are the ones more insecure

>>8809203
>>8809156

There usually are at LEAST a few cut guys bitching in the uncut threads.

>>8812045
That dick is not circumcised, just fully retractable

>>8812195

im impartial... and not convinced either way, but it does appear to have a scar, no skin mobility, and no evidence of a frenulum. My vote would be cut for that one.

>>8772097

Looks like going in ass... play gif... doesn't go in ass... leave thread...

>>8807629
I'm cut since 9 years ago and my dick looks a little worn, it still functions great though, so I'm happy.

>>8816132
>looks a little worn
you sure that's not from all the sex?

>>8794939
the 1st girl on the left is a cam girl on MFC. Cant remember her name

>>8778736
Passion HD - Housewife Sexual Duties

>>8772097
Name of girl?

>>8816237
I've only had sex thrice, twice with a horny 8/10 chick from highschool (once during, and once after highschool( and once with a 8/10 guy, no homo though, he gave me an eighth for it, he was going to get locked up for dealing and I was his last customer, so he said "I'm going to prison, let's fuck, I'll give you my last eighth for free." I was shocked at first, but it turned out to be pretty fun, he sucked better than the girl, and his anus was so tight I couldn't believe it, he did clean it out beforehand though, so I didn't get shit on my dick.

>>8816237
Ignore the name I used in
>>8818326
It was to troll some /g/ anons.

>>8775047
foreskin is disgusting. fuck you

>>8778996
because it's disgusting and ugly?? >__> why else

>>8792737
ok you keep on with your disgusting dick cheese keeping foreskin dick. cut the shit off

>>8819706
Thats like saying youd cut off your finger nails because dirt accumulates underneath. It's not like you can wash under your foreskin.

Im actually sorry your genitals were involuntarily mutilated.

>>8794757
The foreskin does not fully detach until the early to mid teens you did not have a phimosis just a retarded doctor.

>>8819797
Who the fuck doesn't cut off their finger nails when there's shit under it?

>>8772097
I have been looking for the sauce for ever, does someone have it

>>8818804
That's one of the best cocks I've ever seen, honestly. THAT is the reason you should get cut, nothing with foreskin can ever look that good.

>>8822162
>>8822156
jesus christ source?

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>>8772097

>>8822234
Girls. They grow them long and clean them when they're dirty.

Next bad analogy, please. Any takers?

>>8819706
Mad Jewfag detected. But y u mad tho, Jew?

>>8819695
>>8819685
Additional mad Jews. Orrrr.... Same madjewfag is same. What do they with your baby foreskins anyway? Do they incinerate them?

>>8818326
>Sucks dick and plunges ass for drugs
>No homo

Pick one, faggot.

>>8809203
No, it's just hilarious good fun to ridicule you, your parents, and the Jew doctors that continue the barbaric practice of male genital mutilation into the current year. It's the current year and you people should know better by now.

>>8822291

not how most cut dicks look, but I agree that one is nice.

>>8822291
You do know that it can be pulled back, right?

Christ, you cutfags are stupid.

>>8822475
crusty foreskinfag detected

>>8822500
Man at first it was funny but this denial and insecurity you show is just sad. Get some help bro. It's alright you'll get laid someday with a chick that doesn't laugh at your dick.

>>8772097
>>8772097

op sauce

xvideos video964609/anal_teen

>>8824075
I could go on to say that I get more tail than you'd care to acknowledge, but what good would it do? You're cut, I'm not; I get all the tail I can handle and nobody made a blood sacrifice out of my penis. The best that cutfags can do is point out problems that can be solved with a bar of soap or, rather like assuming that I don't get pussy because I'm uncut, start from a false premise. Either way you look at it, cutfags come out ahead. But it's not your parents and doctors failed you in your earliest moments in life. It'll only become your fault if and when you choose to continue the barbarism by inflicting MGM on your own infant son(s). If you've already had (a) son(s); well, good job at failing parenthood. You should have protected your child from Jew barbarity.

>>8825338
Samefag here. I meant to say,

"It's not your fault, it's your parent's and doctor's who failed you; the fault is theirs."

Also, "Uncutfags come out ahead."

Serves me right for getting into this while drinking. Anyways.... back to the bottle.

Before I do, I might just add that maybe you're one of those cutfags who had it done on account of medical reasons, but that would make you the exception rather than the rule.

isnt every porno with a cut cock?

>>8825377

no... and considering the circumcision rate among white men in their late 30s and 40s in America, there's actually a much higher amount of uncut dick in porn than in the general population. There are a lot of non-american men in american porn, which is part of the reason why.

>>8825366
I'm the exception. I was posting here earlier >>8787445

I have literally never argued about this topic until today. Most people irl who talk about this just want to know what it's like to be/not be cut. I don't understand why 4chimps have to turn it every topic into penis/racial/how-many-times-one-gets-laid Olympics. I'm just challenging back because it seems like a joke going on but you never know when someones taking it personally or for the lulz. Honestly i don't give a flying fuck if cocks are cut or not and I doubt most women care too much about it as long as you're clean.

>>8823073
>B-but if you pull it back it looks the same
Hardly, but keep imitating until you realise it's better to just get circumcised, I'll wait.

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>>8775030

how do I convince my gf to be into this?

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An ex told me she liked the way she could tell I was cut even through my underwear.

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>>8829662
>hahahaha! Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAAHHA!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

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Why do you find it so hard to believe that girls like seeing the head of a guys dick?

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Or that some would rather have their cocks inside of a pussy than their own weird folds of skin?

>>8818618
The acting is strong with this one.

>>8819695

Woww, so you would rather chop something off because it's "disgusting and ugly" than have 1/3 of your overall sexual pleasure?

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>>8829883

I think I get bjs often enough compared to uncut dudes to justify whatever loosing sensation from a skin flap.

>>8829817
>>8829835
>>8829904


>For a lot of American women, the idea of an uncircumcised penis is repulsive. (Sorry, guys!) It's not that we're against a penis that rocks a turtleneck, but it's just something we're not accustomed to. You can't be mad at us if we recoil in fear and confusion during sex when face-to-face with an uncut member! It's not our fault, we're American! ...... "Uglier to look at, easier to give fumbly morning handjobs to, so it's hard to say. However a pretty penis can triumph over all," says Dale, 21. "My first run in with an uncircumcised penis made me realize I never wanted to jerk off a circumcised one again," says Patricia, 35.
>You can't be mad at us! It's not our fault, we're American!
>We're American!
>Murrica, fuck yeah!

Sauce: http://www.yourtango.com/2014210856/sex-dating-what-women-really-think-uncircumcised-penises

>>8830434
Watch out now, you cutfags are gonna love this! Same sauce as before:

>"I've only experienced cut. Uncircumcised is intriguing; I like driving manual. But I've never had the opportunity. Guess I'll keep on plugging until I find one?" says Jen, 36. "Never been intimate with one, but have heard from MANY friends that dudes with their foreskin still in tact are better in bed, because they feel EVERYTHING 10 times as much! I don't know if there's any scientific basis in that though. It might be only three times as much," says Bets, 30.
> heard from MANY friends that dudes with their foreskin still in tact are better in bed, because they feel EVERYTHING 10 times as much!
> dudes with their foreskin still in tact are better in bed
>uncut dudes are better
>uncut

http://www.yourtango.com/2014210856/sex-dating-what-women-really-think-uncircumcised-penises

>>8830434
>>8830444

Same sauce, again:
>"I've done a fair amount of research (FOR SCIENCE!) with about equal ratio of cut to uncut men. My results conclude that uncut men are better in the sack," says Sarah, 36.
>My results conclude that uncut men are better in the sack,"
>uncut men are better
>uncut

Also, check'em

>>8830434
>>8830444

>one whore thinks your stepped on joint is better
>therefore all women MUST feel that way

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>>8830462
> Those reading comprehension skills.

Look again, dipshit. Those are comments taken from several women. But hey, you don't have to believe me. Believe this:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/do-females-prefer-males-who-have-circumcised-penises

Nearly 2/3 of women polled worldwide (IE: not just in the United States of Jewmerica, Israel, and neighboring ISIS states) prefer uncut men.

/thread

>>8830478
"Real women prefer whole penises

The ignorance on the left makes me want to slam my head against the wall. So many lies and myths being said by these pro-cutters. Only women who haven't been lucky to be with a WHOLE man will say they prefer cut men. The fact is natural sex (meaning intact sex) is so much better. Less friction, more pleasure for both the man and the woman. Cut sex is not normal. There is too much friction. A cut penis is basically a dildo since there are no movable parts like in a whole penis."

http://www.debate.org/opinions/do-females-prefer-males-who-have-circumcised-penises

>>8830478

You realize maybe a couple thousand women answered that survey, right?

>>8830511
You realize how surveys work, right?

>>8829904

I think you're really over-estimating how big of a deal it is to most women.

>>8830541
You realize that you're arguing with someone over penises, right?

>>8775048
Sauce

>>8830736
>You realize that you're arguing with someone over penises, right?
>penises
>Implying that this is gay

No, I'm arguing over ideological grounds: Blind acceptance and promotion of infant male genital mutilation, which should be manifestly abhorrent to anyone with a soul.

That doesn't stop Americunts, Jewfags, and towelheads from being the only remaining cultures worldwide that actively promote and spread this vile barbarism.

When set in that context, sure, I freely admit that I'm arguing with someone over penises. But it's a moral and ethical argument as opposed to going, "Hey, I think cut dicks are ugly, trololol!"

29, from Australia.

I was uncut until 4 months ago. Decided to get it done after sick of putting up with phimosis. After healing up and giving it thorough test run (solo and with the girlfriend) I can say it is superior for me personally. Feels a lot better, my heads actually bigger now without the restriction of a foreskin and I've had no loss of sensation. Personally if I hadn't of had any issues and the foreskin retracted as normal I would not of had it done. I am glad I did though and am very pleased with the results, as is the gf (she was neutral on preferring cut vs uncut, didn't care in case anyone wonders).

>>8831266
>Blind acceptance and promotion of infant male genital mutilation, which should be manifestly abhorrent to anyone with a soul.

Many humans find mutilation erotic. bmezine is proof of that, and of course superstitionists contend they have souls while they bite off foreskins.

>>8831341

Is she converted now?

>>8831341
The bigger glans is personally one of my favorite aesthetic parts. Of course guys cut at birth are usually bigger because it's never been restricted by foreskin, but getting rid of that whole layer of skin around it makes it look much more prominent. Good choice, btw, it seems like as people stop doing it at birth, adults just do it later in life. Hopefully that means it will bounce back after a generation.

>>8772097
>cut

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.gif

>>8787445
>people say you lose sensitivity when you get cut... for me it's been the opposite

Just wait for the nerves to deaden.

>>8790991
>>and I'm only gonna post in a format everyone can enjoy

FTFY

>>8794757
>I was diagnosed with phimosis when I was very young (around 7 years old)

Your doctor is either a quack or a fraud. Have him stripped of his doctorate.

>>8833125
>I was cut 11 years ago >>8807629
Still waiting on this mythical sensitivity decline Maybe it'll happen when I'm 80 or something

>>8804566
>it's still an extremely pleasurable experience

Not really; it's hardly even worth the effort.

>having a circumcised penis still leaves you with the whole rest of the penis,which still has an enormous amount of nerve endings

Which are no longer responsive after years of incessant direct contact and friction with fabrics and other foreign surfaces.

>Is it awful, boring, or anything less than amazing without?

Yes.

>No. It's still FUCKING great.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

>>8805306
>The most sensitive part on my dick by FAR is the scar line of where I was circumcised

Sensitivity there is just as dull as everywhere else on me.

>>8806452
>I'm a guy and I'm circumcised

So am I; that's how I know you're talking out your ass.

>You might have had a shit doctor

Any doctor who believes the whole BS rationalization about "hygiene" is shit.

>Could also be that you're full of shit

Nah, we've already established that YOU'RE the one who' full of shit.

>places [...] that encourages you to kill yourself for retarded reasons such as having a smaller than average dick and/or no foreskin.

No worse than places that recommends genital mutilation as a matter of course for the most obviously BS reasons.

>your phantom unsourced study

Is that supposed to be some sort of hypocritical humor?

By the way, that's not even cut. Nice job discrediting yourself, retard.

>>8819797
>Thats like saying youd rip out your finger nails because dirt accumulates underneath

FTFY

>>8822480
>What do they with your baby foreskins anyway? Do they incinerate them?

They use them to provide ingredients for women's vanity products. Not even joking.

>>8830434
>You can't be mad at us if we recoil in fear and confusion during sex when face-to-face with an uncut member!
>You can't fault us for being ignoramuses!

Stay classy, lady.

>It's not our fault, we're American!

And no thought whatsoever given to the implications of such a statement. There's a person who habitually lets her mouth go before her brain.

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>>8833333
Checked.

>>8832326
>Many humans find mutilation erotic

Take it to gurochan.

>>8833225
>I'm cut so I know what every single other cut guy in the entire planet feels because individuals simply don't have different experiences

Slow down there champ too you went full retard in pretty much every single point of yours

>>8833367
The person he was responding to was speaking it absolutes as well. But apparently you don't find him retarded for some reason.

>>8832326
That's fine if it's an adult making the decision for themselves. The problem is that circumcision is overwhelmingly practiced on defenseless newborn infants and forever takes the freedom of choice out of their hands.

>>8833374
>The person
Pretty sure those 3 aren't the same anon

>>8833333
>>8833344
Checked

>>It's not our fault, we're American!
>And no thought whatsoever given to the implications of such a statement.

The implication is that Yankees have, as a culture, been led down the garden path by Jews and have become a nation that has no problem with practicing infant male genital mutilation for spurious reasons without so much as a second thought. But they will bellow forth their outrage whenever female genital mutilation at any age is featured on the Oprah Winfrey show. The double standard at work there is one of America's most epic failures.

>>8829866
Sauce ?

>>8833755


Exploited college girls. Angela.

If you are against circumcision and you have ever gotten a hair cut or clipped your nails, then you are a hypocrite.

>>8836663
> Comparing dead keratin to live nerve endings and flesh
> Being this ignorant.

You might want to think about taking some summer courses in basic biology there, summerfag.

>>8822118
sauce please!

>>8836663

If you're circumcised and you don't cut off your arms every time your armpits stink, you're an hypocrite

>mfw all these coddled uncutlets crying because there are people who don't like their dick

a bloo bloo bloo, go back to your hugboxes lel

>>8830478
You do realize it says "do you prefer X"
The answer NO means either they prefer the other no don't give a shit.

Thank you stupid for stupiding up the stupid with a stupity

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>>8839799
Look again, retard. That poll result doesn't say what you think it says.

The question asks, "Do females prefer CIRCUMCISED penises?" (IE: Do girls like cutfags?)

The answer:
41% say that (Yes) they do.
59% say that (No) they do not.

Ergo, the majority of women do NOT prefer cutfags.

Simple math clearly isn't your strongest subject, is it summerfag? Your English really could do with some work as well. Good job at making yourself look like a retard though. Top marks! You get an A+.

>Thank you stupid for stupiding up the stupid with a stupity

>>8839799
You really need to see this:

>>8830478
More people (girls) like our uncut, sheathed penises than your calloused, dried out bell end. Are you sure you're not the one crying? You did possibly the best text-impression of it that I've ever seen. That only comes with experience. I'm just saying, bro. I understand why you might feel that way though, you were a victim of violence from your earliest moments, right out of the womb as it were, and you have ever right to those feelings now.

>>8830444
oh man, I'm so mad that women I'm never going to meet like uncut trash

>>8830478
you don't /thread yourself

What is the Foreskin?

The foreskin is not an optional extra for a man’s body, or an accident. It is an integral, functioning, important component of a man’s penis. An eye does not function properly without an eyelid – and nor does a penis without its foreskin.

Among other things, the foreskin provides:

>Protection: The foreskin fully covers the glans (head) of the flaccid penis, thereby protecting it from damage and harsh rubbing against abrasive agents (underwear, etc.) and maintaining its sensitivity.
>Sexual Sensitivity: The foreskin provides direct sexual pleasure in its own right, as it contains the highest concentration of nerve endings on the penis.
>Lubrication: The foreskin, with its unique mucous membrane, permanently lubricates the glans, thus improving sensitivity and aiding smoother intercourse.
>Skin-Gliding During Erection: The foreskin facilitates the gliding movement of the skin of the penis up and down the penile shaft and over the glans during erection and sexual activity.
>Varied Sexual Sensation: The foreskin facilitates direct stimulation of the glans during sexual activity by its interactive contact with the sensitive glans.
>Immunological Defense: The foreskin helps clean and protect the glans via the secretion of anti-bacterial agents.

>>8840625
What circumcision takes away

Circumcision always results in a diminution of sexual sensitivity; largely because removing the foreskin cuts away the most nerve-rich part of the penis (up to 80% of the penis’s nerve endings reside in the foreskin). The following anatomy is amputated with circumcision:

>The Taylor “ridged band” (sometimes called the “frenar band”), the primary erogenous zone of the male body. This unique, highly specialized and exquisitely sensitive structure is equipped with soft ridges designed by nature to stimulate the female’s inner labia and G-spot during intercourse.
>The frenulum, the highly erogenous V-shaped tethering structure on the underside of the head of the penis.
>20,000 specialized erotogenic nerve endings of several types, which can feel slight variations in pressure and stretching, subtle changes in temperature, and fine gradations in texture.
>Thousands of coiled fine-touch receptors called Meissner’s corpuscles, which are also found in the fingertips.

Not only is a staggering amount of nerve tissue lost in circumcision, even further loss of sensation occurs in the glans after circumcision. Since circumcision deprives the glans of its protective mucous membrane, the glans dry out and is left unprotected against external abrasion. To shield itself from the pain and discomfort of abrasion, it keratinizes, forming a tough, harder outer surface that buries the nerve endings of the glans deeper under the surface and renders them less sensitive to touch.

>>8840625
>>8840635
Most importantly, circumcision renders a penis dysfunctional. Circumcision removes 30 – 50% of the skin of the penis including the complex double layer of the foreskin, most of the nerve-endings (found on the foreskin), the mucosal inner lining of the foreskin, and part of, or even in some cases the entirety of, the frenulum. As one might expect after such a significant amputation, a penis subject to such interference cannot function normally ever again. Many adolescents circumcised at birth experience painfully tight skin upon erection, simply because there is not enough skin left after circumcision to allow proper expansion to occur. Furthermore, many circumcised men find their level of sexual sensitivity diminish drastically as they age, with their glans becoming less and less sensitive to touch.

An intact man experiences sexual intercourse very differently from a circumcised man; first, because he has the feeling of all the nerve endings on the foreskin and a very sensitive glans that is only exposed to touch during sex, and secondly because the presence of a foreskin allows for the abundant skin present along the shaft to glide onto the glans, providing its own stimulation without the need for external lubrication. By contrast, a circumcised man’s penile shaft skin is stretched tight during erection, allowing for no stimulation of the glans by the gentle backwards and forwards movement of foreskin. Furthermore, he feels nothing of the stretching and relaxing of the foreskin and frenulum as the skin of the penis is pushed forward and back during intercourse, both of which are a major component of the pleasure and ejaculatory response in intact males. The absence of many of the nerves that were once on the penis means that the circumcised male feels much less, which also explains the very common observation that circumcised men take much longer to reach orgasm, that is so because they cannot feel nearly as much.

>>8840625
>>8840635
>>8840640
Thirdly, circumcision results in a damaged physical appearance a permanent scar and the constant exposure and drying out of an internal organ (the glans) to the open air and abrasion from clothes and other outside objects. That altered appearance when not chosen by the individual can lead to body image problems, shame, and embarrassment to boys and men who have, against their will, been visibly made different from the majority of the world’s men. This is especially so in countries where circumcision is no longer considered normal (i.e. the whole world except for the United States, South Korea, Israel, and Islamic countries). No one likes the idea of scarring anywhere on one’s body. The idea of a scar at the place of most intimacy, sensitivity and psychological importance, especially when it was unnecessarily imposed, and in conditions of pain is particularly upsetting.

>>8830478

so mad that you got jew cucked

>>8840625
>>8840635
>>8840640
>>8840645
>I am so insecure about my foreskin I have to write a book about it

Are you the husband I been cucking cause the wife pref cut dudes?

>>8840838
I'm just posting facts and information for the benefit of people who are unaware of the science behind it, but I know you're allergic to that sort of thing.

ok so just to put my two cents into this dumb debate...
circumcision is about two things... if you're jewish it's about fulfilling the covenant obligations, a good torah scholar once put it that it's mankind's attempt at seeking perfection because god wants us to be perfect

for non jews it's a standard medical procedure that makes a penis easier to clean and care for and reduces the likelihood of diseases.
medical-proven-facts.
i feel like the debate on 4chan boils down to one thing... (i'll use 4chanese to make my point)
uncut fags are just trying to make cutfags jealous because they say that sex is sooooooo much better with a foreskin...you know..because they totally have an unbiased basis for comparison...sarcasm.

>>8841089
>facts
nah, you're just actually literally autistic and need medical attention.

>>8841402
holy shit, someone who finally laid it down how it is.

>>8841402
The only doctors and academcis who believe all that crap are either American, Jewish, or both.

>>8841518
You wanna see who -REALLY- laid it down how it is? Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSWbTv3hng

The fact is, American's are circumsized today because of one man's puritanical, prudish obsession with eliminating masturbation in boys: John Harvey Kellog.

Yes, that Kellog. As in, Kellog's Cornflakes Cereal.

Listen up, America! The man who gave you Cornflakes wants you to stop masturbating so he had you all start mutilating your penises in accordance with Jewish customs. So, like, stop masturbating and shit, or he'll be angry!

>>8772100
Well, thanks to my fren my dick looks like a banana, but it's kind of rare because it gives more pleasure, not only to me.

Lack of awareness that you need to wash your penis and move your foreskin as a child usually leads to phimosis/frenulum breve (or both). American culture teaches us to not be open to our children about "private part" hygiene because we see it as being creepy. There wouldn't be many cases of phimosis if the ignorance would cease.

source: personal experience with both illnesses, pretty ignorant parenting and this website which opened my eyes early enough in life for me to prevent my penis from strangling itself:

http://www.male-initiation.net/

(and no I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of having poor hygiene or some shit, just putting this info out for you all, take it as you will)

>>8842056
Samefagging but I have to say that I am not in support of circumcision but I am in support of other surgical methods of "freeing" the foreskin, like frenuloplasty, and I hope that it becomes a more viable procedure in the future. In the state of Washington I am not actually able to get a frenuloplasty from any notable surgeon due to the perceived lack of effectiveness. I think that, in time, and with more accurate surgeons/cutting methods you could eliminate any sort of problem with the foreskin without needing more than a few minor cuts.

>>8841924

in the video it said that circumcision prevents HIV and STD transmission...also...have you never been in a situation where you couldn't shower for a few days? even a week? i have.

as for the kellog thing, i'm pretty sure that's a reductionist argument. I'll tell you this, the lead up to it where the guys were saying "make it look like mine" is probably a better picture of our parents motivations to circumcise us. plus i think that if you're not jewish, you were born in the 20th century, and you are circumcised, then it means your mom preferred the look of circumcised penises....that's a lot of american moms....

as for the "loss in sensitivity"... my junk is pretty fucking sensitive, i'm sure if it was even more so then sex wouldn't last as long...but i don't know what to compare it to so....

finally, what the fuck is wrong with jewish and american doctors? some of the best doctors in the world are either jewish or american or both.
The antisemitism on 4chan has to fucking stop, it's disgusting, hateful, unfounded, and it's like 100 people ganging up on one guy, the definition of scapegoating.

>>8840640
>circumcised men take much longer to reach orgasm

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>8841402
>medical-proven-facts

MYTH BUSTED!

>>8844398
on paper not, but when you realize is the root cause of this is because you're not being stimulated as much during sexual activity, it becomes more of a mixed bag. do you want more sexual stimulation and a quicker orgasm, or less sexual stimulation while taking longer to orgasm?

while there are pros and cons to both (clearly), i'd have to go with the former - which is logical, because the idea circumcision wasn't conceived of with a mans sexual interest at mind. it'd be quite the coincidence if cutting off a piece of sensitive skin from the penis for totally illogical reasons (religious texts, stopping kids from masturbating) were to somehow yield net sexual benefit.

>>8842056
>move your foreskin as a child

That stuff is attached until maturity, you moron! Ripping it away instead of letting it run its own course only INCREASES the risk of developing phimosis!

>>8844418
What if I value the female's experience more than my own?

>>8843527
>have you never been in a situation where you couldn't shower for a few days? even a week? i have.
4 days is about the longest I've been unable to shower for, which isn't nearly enough for any kind of gross shit to build up that cut people don't suffer from. even if it did, I wouldn't engage in sexual intercourse prior to showering again (i'll pass on sex after a week of not washing myself) so it wouldn't even be an issue if it did happen.

>as for the kellog thing, i'm pretty sure that's a reductionist argument. ... "make it look like mine" is probably a better picture of our parents motivations to circumcise us

true, but that's a non-sequitur. once you realize that there are no real benefits to being circumcised and it also doesn't really matter if your sons dick looks like yours (hopefully you don't spend a lot of time comparing), it only takes 1 generation for circumcision to be eradicated and have those the dicks of the sons of that generation look similar to their own because they'll both be uncircumcised. it's a totally moot point imo.

> it means your mom preferred the look of circumcised penises

surely true, but you again have to realize that this can change in a generation or two. if you saw a foot with no toes attached to it right now you'd be freaked the fuck out, but if every human was born toeless, it'd be the normal thing to see everywhere and toes would look weird (like seriously, imagine how fucking weird toes would look if we weren't born with them). the obvious reason why americans are the only one who find it aesthetically more pleasing is because they're used to it.

>as for the "loss in sensitivity"... my junk is pretty fucking sensitive

to give you some perspective on the difference in sensitivity, if an uncut person pulls back their foreskin while wearing their boxers, it'd feel beyond uncomfortable to even just walk around. you couldn't pay me $100 to do that for a day. thats the kind of stimulation you're subjected to 24/7

>>8844429
That's a genuinely valid reason, assuming you live in rural America (or another location that overwhelmingly practices circumcision), and you happen to be dating a woman who's so put off by an uncut penis that it negatively affects her experience even in the long term.

This isn't really an argument in favor of circumcision as a whole though, because circumcised penises aren't more pleasurable for women on a physical level, and the negative consequence on the female enjoyment purely stems from the fact that she's mentally not fond of it (which obviously doesn't exist in areas where circumcision isn't practiced, meaning that if we stopped circumcising kids we'd also get rid of the preference for circumcision in females within a relatively short span of time.

>>8775030
are you a guy?

>>8844573
it's more likely that it's a guy pretending to be a girl to rile nerds up than that it is an actual girl, so you can't really trust any answer other than "i'm a guy", making the question pretty pointless

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>>8844473
Indeed, quite. I would only add that imperical proof of what you're saying can be easily obtained by looking at the body modification rituals of tribal communities in parts of Africa, South America and South-East Asia / Pacific Islands.

I wonder if anyone here would argue that this sort of modification (for cultural/religious reasons) is as attractive as they claim mutilating infant boys' penises is. These tribal communities would certainly tell you that this is their vision of beauty. All of that is fine as long as its an adult making adult decisions about their own bodies rather than making that choice on behalf of infants and young children.

>>8845035
Samefag,

*empirical (not imperical)

>>8794939

>hard
>my cock looks cuck
>soft looks like a regular intact cock

The aesthetics argument makes me cringe, women cut their children because of muh looks

>>8795151
just mad because your dick looks like a fucking worm anon

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>>8845344

Am I supposed to feel bad about myself? Let me share with you a quick story:

My girl likes to hold my uncut cock, placing a finger on top of my glans, over which she pulls the foreskin, engulfing her finger. She says, "Look anon, your cock is eating my finger! <gasp> I fan feel its saliva!"

> yfw you will /never/ be able to play this game with your girl.

I'm not even a part of this thread, I was just looking at porn.

But what I just saw was possibly the worst boner killers I have read in a long time.

May god help you.

>>8845658
I guess we'll have to settle for sex while you're over there playing games with your retarded sister.

>>8845847
top fucking kek

>>8845847
> Implying that sex is not forthcoming during these activities
> going full retard

Oh, you sure showed me, anon, I'm actually laughing! No, really! It's hilarious that this was the best that you could come up with! Run along now, little one, those halcyon summer time days burn away fast!

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>>8845344
For a world's lead voice in overall development, I find it astounding you americans have no desire to make your puny outlook develop.

Pic related, do your homework.

>>8806452

>Although the sensory and autonomic innervation of the penis and clitoris are similar, there is a remarkable difference in their encapsulated somatosensory receptors. Sensory receptors can be classified as mechanoreceptors, e.g. Meissner's corpuscles (Fig. 4), Vater-Pacinian corpuscles (Fig. 5) and Merkel cells (Fig. 6); and nocioceptors (free nerve endings) [41]. A multitude of names have been used to describe these encapsulated receptors, e.g. Krause, Dogiel, genital corpuscles, Endkalpsen [sic] and mucocutaneous end-organs [42], but the term corpuscular (encapsulated) receptors will be used here to include all of these mechanoreceptors. Most of the encapsulated receptors of the prepuce are Meissner corpuscles, as they contact the epithelial basement membrane.

>The glans penis is primarily innervated by free nerve endings and has primarily protopathic sensitivity [43]. Protopathic sensitivity refers to cruder, poorly localized feelings (including pain, some temperature sensations and certain perceptions of mechanical contact) [44]. In the glans penis, encapsulated end-organs are sparse, and found mainly along the glans corona and the frenulum [43]. The only portion of the body with less fine-touch discrimination than the glans penis is the heel of the foot [45]. In contrast, the male prepuce ridged band (Fig. 7) at the mucocutaneous junction has a high concentration of encapsulated receptors [46]. The innervation difference between the protopathic sensitivity of the glans penis and the corpuscular receptor-rich ridged band of the prepuce is part of the normal complement of penile erogenous tissue.

Christopher J Cold and John R Taylor. "The prepuce". British Journal of Urology, Volume 83, Suppl. 1: pp. 34-44,
January 1999.

>>8841924

I wouldn't say it was just "one man's" obsession with impeding and punishing masturbation.

In fact there were many "Dr. Kellogg"s running around.

As noted by Darby (2003):

>In searching for the link between the Western prohibition of childhood masturbation and the rise of routine circumcision, the psychoanalysts seem to have been the first on the trail. In a study of children with psychological and behavioural problems in the 1930s, Mabel Huschka reported that a high proportion of the boys had been threatened with mutilating operations on their penis if they masturbated. In her introduction to the data she makes reference to a small sample of medical literature which recommended circumcision for girls who persisted in the habit, and a rather more popular German book which recorded that some doctors "armed with great knives and scissors" threaten boys with a "painful operation or even to cut off the genital organs." The same authority added that "small operations" were sometimes helpful: one physician "cured a young fellow in whom ... no punishment had proved effective, by simply cutting off the anterior part of the foreskin with jagged scissors." He also mentioned infibulation and chastity cages to block access to the penis.

(continued)

>>8841924
>>8846552

>Huschka seems unaware that infant male circumcision had become quite common in the USA by the 1930s (between 50 and 60 per cent of newborns--about the same as today), (7) but the high incidence of mutilation threats received by boys, mostly picturing "the doctor" coming to cut their penis in some unspecified but painful way, would be possible only in a medical culture in which the surgical removal of (part of) the penis was frequently recommended and widely performed. There are no reports of such horror stories before the nineteenth century, and the cautionary tale for children with which these threats share the most affinity, "The story of little suck-a-thumb," in Heinrich Hoffmann's Struwwelpeter, was not published until 1847, near the height of the masturbation scare in Germany. (8)

>Discussing the prevalence of flogging in nineteenth century England, Ian Gibson comments that threats of castration for many varieties of bad behaviour, including playing with the genitals, were "probably not uncommon" and adds: "Circumcision, too, must have also seemed a castration threat to many children and been looked upon as a terrible punishment for having a penis." (9) It would seem that the boys' fears were no more than an expression of medical/moral realities.

Robert Darby. "The masturbation taboo and the rise of routine male circumcision: A review of the historiography". Journal of Social History, Volume 27: pp. 737-757, Spring 2003.

Is this thread about dick webms or ylyl text ? The only place i ever seen this many insecure people in one place is tumblr.

so from the darby quote im basically getting two things... (1) boys in europe were threatened with circumcision for masturbation and (2) that it would never work in america because the practice was so widespread...that's about it...? I'd actually buy that the practice of non-jewish circumcision began with a protestant view of sexual morality, but the medical science is clear, circumcision does not carry with it any ill side effects.

i think the guy with the picture of the african tribeswoman has a point, it's a cultural proclivity. i'm an american, and americans have viewed the circumcised penis as the norm because of it's aesthetics and usefulness.

again i think this has more to do with the woman's preference for circumcised penises and the man's desire to make his infant's penis resemble his own, for whatever reasons.

along those lines...ive always wanted to ask, do uncircumcised men need to pull back the foreskin to urinate?

>>8846866
Why is it insecurity to call out Western Society's foibles (particularly in the US as it relates to this topic)?

Don't you think that infant circumcision is morally and ethically abhorrent?

>>8846965

>so from the darby quote im basically getting two things... (1) boys in europe were threatened with circumcision for masturbation and (2) that it would never work in america because the practice was so widespread...that's about it...?

No. You clearly did not digest the excerpt properly--in fact you just about got it ass backward.

Try reading it again.

>Huschka seems unaware that infant male circumcision had become quite common in the USA by the 1930s (between 50 and 60 per cent of newborns--about the same as today), (7) but the high incidence of mutilation threats received by boys, mostly picturing "the doctor" coming to cut their penis in some unspecified but painful way, would be possible only in a medical culture in which the surgical removal of (part of) the penis was frequently recommended and widely performed.

This is referring to American children--frequent threats of "the doctor" coming to mutilate a child's genitals if he masturbates would only occur in a society where such a thing actually did happen.

>There are no reports of such horror stories before the nineteenth century, and the cautionary tale for children with which these threats share the most affinity, "The story of little suck-a-thumb," in Heinrich Hoffmann's Struwwelpeter, was not published until 1847, near the height of the masturbation scare in Germany. (8)

Circumcision as a punishment for masturbation never became popular in mainland Europe, but there did exist a cultural taboo against masturbation in Europe due to the widespread belief that it was unhealthy and/or sinful.

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>>8847065
nope

>>8846965
>>8847111

>the medical science is clear, circumcision does not carry with it any ill side effects.

Actually that's not the case.

>The prepuce is a specialized, specific erogenous tissue in both males and females. Therefore, surgical excision should be restricted to lesions that are unresponsive to medical therapy, such as lichen sclerosis of the penis (balanitis xerotica obliterans) or vulva, which is unresponsive to other therapies (e.g. topical clobetasol, intralesional corticosteroids, topical testosterone propionate ointment, etretinate, and carbon dioxide or laser vaporization) [99]. Preputial plasty [100] should be considered in place of circumcision whenever possible, so as to preserve the corpuscular sensory receptors, dartos muscle, penile mucosa and complete function of the penis, while avoiding abnormal exposure and keratinization of the glans penis. Although some cultures celebrate the abnormal anatomy caused by circumcision, many women [101,102] and men [103] have reported this abnormal penile/clitoral exposure to be uncomfortable. The male prepuce contains the vast majority of the penile dartos muscle that cannot be regenerated after circumcision. The preputial mucosa and outer epithelium provides adequate epithelial coverage of the erect penis.

>The loss of the prepuce ridged band and the formation of an amputation neuroma are two further complications associated with male circumcision. Although a Fourcroy grade 1 female circumcision would excise less tissue than in a male, this comparison cannot be used to justify female circumcision. Excision of normal, erogenous genital tissue from healthy male or female children cannot be condoned, as the histology confirms that the external genitalia are specialized sensory tissues.

(Cold and Taylor, 1999)

not to get too autistic trying to debate, but...

I hope someday these gifs become a horror page in a digital history book, about how primitive past humans were

>>8847111

Also I should mention that circumcision as a punishment for masturbation did occur in Europe, but not to the extent it did in America, and in Europe they stopped doing it, right when it was becoming more and more popular in the US.

>>8846965
Uncutfag reporting in here. The answer to your question is no, we don't. I don't at least. Possibly there are men out there with a little extra skin that might require manipulating, but it doesn't get in the way like you think. We shake it off just like the rest of you blokes.

As for there being any ill side effects following circumcision, let's just start here:

>The study, by researcher Dan Bollinger, concluded that approximately 117 neonatal deaths due directly or indirectly to circumcision occur annually in the United States, or one out of every 77 male neonatal deaths.

>But another part of the answer lies in the unique place that circumcision occupies in American medical culture, as an entrenched cosmetic ritual that many parents feel they have to submit their baby boys to, and as a lucrative sideline that doctors are reluctant to abandon. American obstetricians can’t seem to rid themselves of the notion that circumcision of boys is somehow an integral part of childbirth. The study points out that “These boys died because physicians have been either complicit or duplicitous, and because parents ignorantly said ‘Yes,’ or lacked the courage to say ‘No.’” It further points out that because circumcision is a completely unnecessary operation, all these deaths are easily avoidable, and thus characterises the annual loss as neither a beneficial surgery nor a beneficent rite of passage, but as “an unrecognized sacrifice of innocents.”

cont'd

>>8847202

>Because circumcision is unnecessary surgery (there being no pathology to treat in a normal male baby), the old calculus of surgical risk vs benefit is not nearly enough. “Risk assessment for an unnecessary surgery must be held to a higher standard than that for a life-saving surgery. We accept that a heart transplant carries with it a substantial risk of death, but without it there is a certainty of death. On the other hand, the risk from circumcision, which has no therapeutic value, needs to be zero for the infant’s sake, all the moreso because he is never consulted about whether he wishes to take his chances.”

> http://www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html

It's a medically superfluous procedure that, ignoring for the moment the arguments already presented in this thread, results dead babies.

I'd say that's a pretty serious ill effect.

We'll lock up a murder for the rest of his life, or give him the chair in some states, for killing just one person per year. But we don't want to take this seriously... Why?
tl;dr
Cutfag doctors fiddling with the healthy and natural skin around baby boys' penises end up killing some of those baby boys every year.

>>8847117
Then you probably wouldn't mind if I came to your house and harvested a kidney from your baby without it's consent either. I mean, it's got one more, right? It'll get by just fine.

>>8847123
I'd say the cutfags got rekt on this one, but they probably didn't read it either owing to the fact that it has too many big words.

>>8847123
yeah, that author clearly doesn't think circumcision is a good thing.

*shrug*

male circumcision is a valid medical procedure, people are trained in hospitals to do it and do it with pretty regular frequency, men have grown up, lived, and died with no ill effects in the OVERWHELMINGLY vast majority of cases. it's a perfectly normal procedure. it's not barbaric, it's modern and streamlined.

this is a pretty dumb disagreement when you think about it.

if circumcision was a detrimental operation then doctors wouldn't perform it. yeah it's got drawbacks in terms of sensitivity and it changes certain thing in your natural anatomy, but it's safe and you'll lead a perfectly happy normal life. plus, chicks like it more.

the truth is that there is a particular societal preference for male circumcision. biologically the male anatomy can very readily and healthfully accommodate this preference (seriously dude, one or two medical references can't contradict the majority opinion of the medical community which knows that it's a safe, albeit extraneous and unnecessary medical procedure). so we do it.

human beings man, we pierce our ears, tattoo our skin, donate our kidneys, and sometimes we circumcise our dicks.

i love having a circumcised penis, particularly as an american travelling abroad.

I remember in amsterdam, i visited a prostitute and when she pulled down my pants she smiled and gave a little "oh!" like she was glad to see it. We're talking about a woman who takes dick for a LIVING, and she had a pleasant reaction to a cut cock. that's all the proof i need man. cut cocks are like the unicorns of the cock world. majestic, beautiful and rare (internationally anyway).

uncut is cool too i guess, i bet cumming in a condom is a breeze (when i put one on it has to hang a little loose, otherwise it feels like shit)

we should probably just let parents choose how they want to present their son to the world and let it go.

>>8847290

>yeah, that author clearly doesn't think circumcision is a good thing.

Both Cold and Taylor are (were, in the case of Dr. Taylor) physicians and pathologists who have studied the foreskin in greater depth than possibly anyone else on earth.

Dr. Cold actually used to perform circumcisions--before his histological research he didn't even understand what he was cutting off.

It is an objective fact that the foreskin is highly innervated sensual tissue.

>male circumcision is a valid medical procedure, people are trained in hospitals to do it and do it with pretty regular frequency, men have grown up, lived, and died with no ill effects in the OVERWHELMINGLY vast majority of cases. it's a perfectly normal procedure. it's not barbaric, it's modern and streamlined.

No ill effects?

Circumcision removes countless specialized nerve endings from the penis, many of which are located in the ridged band (which circumcision almost invariably destroys). It also removes the majority of penile dartos muscle from the penis and histological analysis of the circumcision scar shows the presence of abnormal neural growths.

It is objectively harmful.

Just because doctors do it and men don't understand what was taken from them doesn't make it right.

Doctors in many countries (including formerly the US) used to perform female circumcision and many women lived and died that way without understanding what was done to them.

Many of the strongest advocates for female circumcision say "I'm cut and I'm fine. Besides, the doctors do it. They know what they're doing".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHcC0TLCvfM

>if circumcision was a detrimental operation then doctors wouldn't perform it.

Just because SOME doctors perform it doesn't mean it's good. Drs are human and can be mistaken. Many doctors don't understand the function of the foreskin. A lot of the information on it was only published in the mainstream medical journals within the past 20 years.

>>8847290
>if circumcision was a detrimental operation then doctors wouldn't perform it. yeah it's got drawbacks in terms of sensitivity and it changes certain thing in your natural anatomy, but it's safe and you'll lead a perfectly happy normal life. plus, chicks like it more.

Yes they would. Money is a helluva drug. Surgeons today would look back at different medical procedures of even 10 years ago, and cringe. But cutting boy dicks is untouchable.

Why not put fake breasts on your female children, while you're at it?

>>8847290

>if circumcision was a detrimental operation then doctors wouldn't perform it. yeah it's got drawbacks in terms of sensitivity and it changes certain thing in your natural anatomy, but it's safe and you'll lead a perfectly happy normal life.

I'm not happy about being circumcised.

I'd like to have my foreskin back.

>plus, chicks like it more

I'm not a toy for women. I'm my own person.

>i love having a circumcised penis

I don't.

>>8847207
It doesn't "result in dead babies". It's safe.

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/circumcision

http://www.medicinenet.com/circumcision_the_surgical_procedure/article.htm

>>8847381
aw, dude! love your dick!

>>8847368
because we don't do that as a society...at least not with infants...
and i don't buy the money is a drug argument, doctors get paid plenty well without needing to do circumcisions

What a disturbing fetish.

>>8847426

Would you tell a circumcised girl who was angry about it to love her vulva? She probably already does love it and that's why she's angry part of it was taken from her without her consent.

That's how I am.

Not that hard a concept to grasp.

>>8847358
>Many of the strongest advocates for female circumcision say "I'm cut and I'm fine. Besides, the doctors do it. They know what they're doing".

lol many? you've gotta be kidding me! some backwater ultraorthodox muslims constitutes many? give me a break dude, we're talking about infant MALE circumcision not FGM.

>>8772097
KIKES. KIKES EVERYWHERE LMAO. PURE DEGENERACY.

>>8847455
no i mean i get it man, i don't mean to be insensitive... i don't think it's an appropriate comparison, a circumcised penis' functionality and health is waaaaaay better than a mutilated vagina... but yeah, i get it, you're mad that the decision was made for you. i can understand that.

>>8847490

>lol many? you've gotta be kidding me! some backwater ultraorthodox muslims constitutes many? give me a break dude,

They're not "backwater ultraorthodox" Muslims. Over 90% of Egypt's female population has been circumcised. It's almost universal in Egypt--it's mainstream.

The views expressed by the women in this video are not unusual views among cut women. They often are some of the strongest advocates for female circumcision.

Fuambai Ahmadu is another cut woman (an anthropologist) who is a strong advocate for parents to have the "right" to choose to circumcise their daughters

http://www.fuambaisiaahmadu.com/

She talks about how in cultures that perform FGM most of the women say they are very happy with their situation.

The parrallel is how most men in cultures that cut males also say the same thing.

>we're talking about infant MALE circumcision not FGM.

Two sides of the same coin. And my main point was that there are doctors do FGM--just because doctors do something doesn't mean it's good.

Even in the US doctors used to circumcise baby girls for "health" reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvX5J7lAv4g

>>8847511

>i don't think it's an appropriate comparison, a circumcised penis' functionality and health is waaaaaay better than a mutilated vagina.

Overgeneralization.

>>8847490
>>8847522

Forgot to add, now some American doctors are advocating for legalizing "ritual nicks" to the genitals of unconsenting girls if their parents' culture or religion calls for it.

"Female genital 'nicks' should be legal: gynecologists"

>LONDON (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Countries that have banned female genital mutilation (FGM) should allow less invasive practices such as small surgical nicks to girls' genitalia as a compromise, two American gynecologists said on Monday.

>But campaigners against FGM strongly criticized the proposal, saying it would undermine global efforts to eradicate the internationally condemned ritual.

>At least 200 million girls and women have been subjected to FGM in over 30 countries, according to U.N. estimates.

>The ancient practice usually involves the partial or total removal of a girl's external genitalia. In some cases the vaginal opening is also sewn up.

>But some communities practice less invasive rituals such as pricking or nicking the clitoris.

>The U.S. gynecologists, writing in the Journal of Medical Ethics, argued that permitting more minimal procedures could allow families to uphold cultural and religious traditions while protecting girls from more dangerous forms of cutting.

>Communities which support FGM often consider it a prerequisite for marriage. Many also see it as a religious obligation although it is not mentioned in the Koran or Bible.

>But FGM can cause a host of physical and psychological problems.

>Gynecologists Kavita Shah Arora and Allan Jacobs said procedures that slightly changed the look of a girl's genitalia without damaging them were comparable to male circumcision or cosmetic procedures in Western countries like labiaplasty.

>Laws against mild modifications were "culturally insensitive and supremacist and discriminatory towards women", they wrote in the specialist journal, which is published by the [BMJ]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-fgm-law-idUSKCN0VV2LE

>>8847522
>>8847522
wow, i didn't realize the percentages were that high.
honestly what this argument is making me realize is that we're all subject to cultural normatives. human beings are pretty strange, we might look at a picture of an african tribesman and think we've evolved out of that behavior, but we've really just found different mediums to express some relatively universal behavioral tendencies.

i think if i went into the ethiopian bush i wouldn't tell the indigenous people to stop putting plates in their mouth because it's disturbing their natural anatomy, hurting them or whatever. but it's interesting that i have strong anti-FGM feelings alongside strong male circumcision opinions. we're all products of our culture i guess, so we're never going to agree on what's "best" because it seems like it doesn't exist. it seems like there's only culturally held standards of truth and proper behavior that are agreed upon en masse by different groups of people.

so really, we're just pulling our own dicks here.
i'll never agree with you, you'll never agree with me, and it's because our cultural conceptions are different, our opinions of and reactions to our societal constraints are different and in a completely different language than some fucker halfway across the globe.

it really does end up being agree to disgree

>>8847511
>circumcised penis' functionality and health is waaaaaay better than a mutilated vagina

Wow. Are you able to speak authoritatively to that effect?

>majority opinion of the medical community
>FuckingLOL.JPG

Another nugget pulled from the dephts of your ass! There is -zero- medical consensus that there is naught but marginal, negligible health benefits to circumcision meanwhile the risks (ie: up to and including death) from this medically superfluous procedure are well documented.

What's really going on here is you're justifying the practice in order to soothe your own insecurity.

You cutfags keep saying that women prefer cut dicks. Look here, >>8830478. The majority of women do not prefer cut dicks.

Understand that if you ever travel outside of the United States, where infant boys are cut in order to look like their fathers; if you ever travel to just about any other country, it is you who will look and be different. Americunt cutfags are in the minority of men who have cut dicks and find themselves in a position where women's preferences turn against them world wide.

... All so that men like Dr. Kellog and a handful of others could brainwash, coerce, threaten, and finally mutilate you into not masturbating.

If it weren't for the abomination of infant MGM, this shit would be comedy gold! I would laugh but I know that 98% of you didn't have a choice in the matter.

You do have a choice to make for your sons, however. You can give back the freedom that was so viciously taken from you and end this barbarism within a generation or two.

>>8847522
>They're not "backwater ultraorthodox" Muslims. Over 90% of Egypt's female population has been circumcised. It's almost universal in Egypt--it's mainstream.

Yeah, but they actually refer to it as "Khitan Firawni" - Pharaonic circumcision.

They were cutting their women long before Islam came along.

>>8847383
Those sources only say that it is "generally safe". That does nothing to refute the study published by Dr. Dan Bollinger, cited in the article above. In fact, they don't even mention the study in either of these articles.

Rather hilariously, they do mention the risks involved, stating,

>What are the risks of circumcision?

>Like any surgical procedure, there are risks associated with circumcision. However, this risk is low. Problems associated with circumcision include:

> Pain
> Risk of bleeding and infection at the site of the circumcision
> Irritation of the glans
> Increased risk of meatitis (inflammation of the opening of the penis)
> Risk of injury to the penis

Not only does it appear that you more than likely went to Google searching for, "Is circumcision safe," and cherry picked from the first top 10 hits that you found and liked the most, it also appears that you didn't even read them.

Which brings me to this article in the New York Times, August of 2006, in which a Jewish infant died after the "metzitzah b'peh" rite performed by his parent's Orthodox Synagogue.

> www.nytimes.com/2005/08/26/nyregion/city-questions-circumcision-ritual-after-baby-dies.html

Just so you don't go and say, "Well, it was those dirty Jew's fault for not practicing sound medicine!" More recently (2013), in Ontario, Canada, a baby died in hospital after he bled to death following a circumcision that neither of the parents wanted but were coerced into having performed at the urging of their attending doctor:

> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/newborn-bleeds-to-death-after-doctor-persuades-parents-to-have-him-circumcised-in-canada-a6710061.html

While I'm strongly persuaded that you won't read either of these articles, at least they are here for others who might read them and recognize the falsehoods that people like you continue to promote about the supposed safety of this unnecessary practice.

>>8847065
I'm not this anon >>8847117
>Why is it insecurity to call out Western Society's foibles (particularly in the US as it relates to this topic)?
Because you're in a fucking 4chan thread on a board about moving pictures that arouses you enough to masturbate to it. So if you need to debate your sexual superiority for having or not having a flab of skin of your dick on a thread like this yes it is full on insecurity.
And just in case you missed it because i know will
>having or not having a flab of skin of your dick
Both cut and uncut in this thread are being insecure little shits.

>Don't you think that infant circumcision is morally and ethically abhorrent?
Again, look at your question, look the thread you're in, the board your in, re-evaluate your life, ask yourself if you really care about my opinion (pro tip, you don't you just want to validate your dick by arguing with anons).

>>8847832

>having a flab of skin of your dick

The foreskin isn't a flap of skin.

That's just a lie that people keep repeating. It's already been disproven--it's not just skin.

>>8775031
that's not cut

I'm restoring and that's what healthy glans look like, not keratinized.

>>8847646
This is reasonable, provided that we can agree that adults making adults decisions with their bodies are entitled to do so and that the practice if circumcision on infants has to end for the obvious reason that it robs them of that fundamental freedom to choose their own path.

>>8847844
Best wishes with that, anon. Sorry it happened to you! :(

>>8847857
nope, i don't agree, circumcision on infants is a cultural necessity for some, and an acceptable option for others. it has to be done on infants, the risks go up for older men.

ill never agree that infant circumcision needs to end.

>>8847823
>Just so you don't go and say, "Well, it was those dirty Jew's fault for not practicing sound medicine!" More recently (2013), in Ontario, Canada, a baby died in hospital after he bled to death following a circumcision that neither of the parents wanted but were coerced into having performed at the urging of their attending doctor:

dude, im a jew, so knock that dirty crap off. i know all about ritual circumcision. metzitzah isn't a universal jewish custom, mostly just ultraorthodox, plus mohels usually just blow on it from a distance or dont do anything at all. it sucks that the baby died, but that doesn't mean it's this horrific practice that'll usually result in harm. it's an incredibly small percentage, that said, all life is precious.

>>8847991

So you oppose the equal protection clause of the Constitution.

Good to know.

>>8848039
sure buddy, sure. one necessarily must follow from the other, it's clearly the only thing that makes sense.

>>8848050

Yes, it does.

You believe that regardless of religion, cutting girls is wrong. Even the forms of female genital cutting that are less severe in terms of erogenous tissue loss than common forms of male circumcision. And indeed, all forms of involuntary non-therapeutic female genital cutting have been illegal for non-consenting girls since 1996--even forms that just involve "nicking" the vulva or even just symbolic forms that involve pricking it with a sterilized needle.

Yet you don't support extending the same protection to males--in fact, you think people should be allowed to remove the MOST sensual part of a boy's penis, without his consent.

This is a violation of equal protection. It means you think female children should have a special right that male children shouldn't have.

>>8848065

so how come after 2 centuries all the constitutional lawyers in america havent outlawed circumcision based on equal protection?

i have a huge problem with FGM, but it's not my place to say it shouldnt be allowed. i don't want to force my cultural opinions on different cultures

but im pretty sure equal protection isn't about circumcising infants
"
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
"

yeah, not seeing it. sorry. agree to disagree?

>>8848065
the EPC of the 14th amendment is about voting rights and school integration etc.

>>8848065
read the wikipedia article about it, let me know if there's anything in there about circumcision and FGM

glad they outlawed FGM, interesting that male circumcision isn't considered the same thing. i definitely agree, it isn't.

at any rate fuck this thread, im going to sleep

>>8848096

>so how come after 2 centuries all the constitutional lawyers in america havent outlawed circumcision based on equal protection?

Two decades, you mean? Female circumcision was only banned in 1996. There are women who were cut by American doctors alive right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpB13KG0gZ4

>i have a huge problem with FGM, but it's not my place to say it shouldnt be allowed. i don't want to force my cultural opinions on different cultures

From this it would logically follow that, from your perspective, banning it would be wrong. I'm not sure what else I could make of this statement.

>but im pretty sure equal protection isn't about circumcising infants

Let's see.

>....nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This gives equal protection under the law to each person, regardless of their race/sex/class.

You can't have one class protected from involuntary genital cutting and another class unprotected. The current interpretation of the law (that FGM is illegal and MGM is legal) is untenable.

This has been brought up repeatedly over the past two decades. And now, more legal experts are bringing this matter to attention. Only days ago an article expressing this was published in the Journal of Law, Medicine, and Ethics.

>Under existing United States law and international human rights declarations as well, circumcision already violates boys› absolute rights to equal protection, bodily integrity, autonomy, and freedom to choose their own religion. A physician has a legal duty to protect children from unnecessary interventions. Physicians who obtain parental permission through spurious claims or omissions, or rely on the American Academy of Pediatrics' position, also risk liability for misleading parents about circumcision.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27338602

>>8848022
You may have misread my intention there, Jewfag, if it is your belief that I was implying that the the mohel was engaged in diddling little boys. I wasn't, which is precisely why I raised the second article where the infant died in a modern hospital setting in order to provide context. Specifically, despite what the earlier anon had falsely believes, that infants can and do die as a result of these procedures while in the hands of those who are (or ought to be) the foremost experts in their field.

Relax.

Pmub