Gloryhole Thread

>>7884626
proxy is so fucking nasty, but this webm is hot as hell

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>>7881793

bump, I regret that I have nothing to share, ty based OP

>>7881793
Litteraly the only gloryhole video i like

>>7885746
OMG! Who is this girl? More of her?

anyone who knows any decent glory hole in NY?

>>7885746
Guys, I have a question related to this one. Is this guy's dick normal? I mean, it's pointed downwards instead of upwards. Is it normal? And, if it is, does he have any problems during sex? Thanks.
(I'm asking because, yeah, mine is just like this as well [just not that big]. And my gf complains that it hurts her :/ )

>>7886472
mine goes in a circle backwards and then out. sex really hurts for me 2

>>7881793
sauce

Anyone have the one where the dude jizzed the second the girl put her mouth on it?

>>7888132

holy shit please let there be some sauce

>>7885746
sauce?

>>7888132
i need a bitch to suck my dick like this. got damn

>>7886472
its fine, mines the same way. Regrettably its due bc when i was a kid id bend it down bc i thought something was wrong/didnt want my parents or anyone else to see. it just happens m8.

also, it depends on the girl, whether it hurts them or not desu

The usage of that font disturbs me.

Where can I torrent all the gloryhole secrets episodes?

>>7885858
>>7888718
gloryholeswallows Ashley B

>>7888124
REMY LACROIX TAKES ON 4 DICKS IN GLORYHOLE_8.1

>>7888735
go to japan, man they worship the dick there, you will know the feeling of nutting and the girl aint stop sucking

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technically on topic

>>7886472
Probably doggy for her feels better

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>>7881793
My wife.

>>7890143
woah
I wouldn't let her suck my own dick either

roll that whale back into the ocean

>>7886472
Mine has that curve because it's pretty long and thick, making it heavy.

>>7890143
You know bestiality is illegal right.

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>>7881793

>>7890143

Why do people post their wives or girlfriends like anyone gives a shit what tub of settled down with another fat tub of shit?

>>7890411
It's better than watching a fake cunt made out of plastic who is acting like she enjoys it because she is getting paid. Children don't get it, I guess.

Once you grow up you'll realize stuff like this.

>>7881793
>>7888124
https://openload.co/f/bZlFu56Kbnk/Remy_LaCroix_-_Gloryhole.mp4

>>7886472
Vaginas are extremely flexible, this rings more true depending on how wet and aroused she is. Find the position that uses the curve best. My guess is doggy.

>>7883580
sauce?

>>7886472
Mine is curvy like that, never had a girl complain about pain because of that, only when I\ve gone too deep. Doggy feels good for her. I've also noticed that girls seem to have easier time to deepthroat a downwards curve fyi.

>>7890431

you sound pretty mad there just because only boars would want to deal with you.

>>7886472
If you haven't gotten the hint yet, that's well within the (actually quite varied) bounds of the human penis, yes.

>>7889730
Jesus I need sauce on her!

>>7892719
Jenna Haze sucks every dick the same way. That damned hand motion of hers. I'd like to know where she ever learned that. If the dick isn't slick, that shit would hurt like a mofo.

>>7884630
need moar or sauce

>>7886676
>obviously a dildo
for what purpose

>>7893317
My wife sucks me this way sometimes. The hand pushes the saliva down and the spin feels fucking unbelievable. I recommend coaching your girl to do the same.

My wife will go back and forth between doing the hand spin and deepthroating me (best she can) to wet the entire dick.

>>7893295
'him'

>>7890431
Be objective and don't delude yourself. Your wife is fat and not pretty. You could have a hobo suck your dick at that point and it wouldn't make a big difference.

If you're happy that you can stick your dick into a wet warm hole, man, good for you, but for fuck's sake, don't delude yourself and post that shit online.

where's a good place to get amateur stuff of this? I have come across it now and then, but only randomly. I hate the fake ones.

>>7885746
that noise hnnnnggg

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One of the very best due to the great audio. Chug! Chug! Chug!

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suace plz

>>7886472
Have her lay on her belly, then lay on top of her. It's kind of like... "Reverse Missionary"? Don't actually lay on her, prop yourself up on your elbows. Wrap one arm under her (or both) and play with her tits. Have her suck your fingers. Kiss her neck and nibble her ears. You'll rub right into her g-spot plus all of the other stuff will have her cumming her brains out in no time. Be careful not to pop off too quick, though; this position feels really fucking good. Use the angle of your dangle to your advantage.

>>7895045
Plus if you're both skinny and she's shorter than you, you can probably rub her clit at the same time.

Do most people just not know how to have good sex? Is it a lack of imagination? This shit always amazes me.

>>7890431
It isn't better though. Porn is made with attractive skinny women because that is what most men are attracted to. Hence no one here likes your whale wife.

anymore creampie stuff?

>>7895070
There are plenty of chub threads for those who would greatly ENJOY big women.

If a preference exists, it is represented on 4chan. For example I like to fap in front of my PC while I torrent but do not seed, taking those delicious bytes all for myself!

>>7894860
sauce?

>>7884630
for the love of jesus sauce

>>7894607

She may not be the best looking girl on GHS, but god damn can this fat Mexi suck a dick.

>>7894860
>>7896142
http://www.cumswallowingmovies.org/2015/08/31/gloryhole-swallow-bridget-2nd-visit/

>>7890143
besides just being a fat fucking disgusting pig she is ugly. that jutting pig chin and ham jowls. she looks like gabe... kill yourself dude so you arent tempted to post this shit her anymore...

>>7886472
Mine is like a downward banana. I've had rave reviews (2 of 2 women dig it). Though it does make getting it in there tricky, especially from the back. Dunno bout the hurting bit, is it a DRASTIC curve or what?

>>7890225

wtf

Do you have a 20 pound dick?

>>7890143
You done goofed.

>>7895045
>the angle of your dangle
I'll write that one down

>>7895326
You sick bastardo seed your torrents

>>7894519
Not that anyone cares. Tits and face look good enough to me.

>>7884630
>>7894165
>>7896161
https://openload.co/f/UzKkXPwRS4s/Gloryhole_Swallow_Samantha_B_1st_Visit.mp4

>>7890143
Tell Shelby that this was disgusting

>>7890143
Holy fuck what a hog

>>7890431
>It's better than watching a fake cunt made out of plastic

NO it is not. I'd rather titty fuck two bags of silicone than princess Fiona's natural pair.

>>7895326
There are also people here who enjoy child porn and water sports. Pointing to mentally ill people here and going "look everyones got a preference" doesn't negate the fact that you're wife is a fat disgusting pig.

>>7890392
>>7890399
>>7890403
>>7890407
Look at all these harbor seals!

>>7881797
sauce?

>>7894860
anyone got more cum down throat webms?

Anyone remember that webm where a really fat chick goes all crosseyed while sloshing the cum around in her fat mouth?

I really didn't enjoy that one.

>>7881797
>>7901163
http://www.cumswallowingmovies.org/2015/10/31/gloryhole-swallow-lucy-1st-visit/

>>7894919
her name is misty or missy woods i think.

>>7884621
Salsa please? Can't quite seem to find actress/scene.

>>7884621
anyone has a name on her?

>>7890463

my virus scan blocks me from downloading that for so many reasons

>>7884621
>>7901565
>>7901686
https://openload.co/f/2koDCP3JsgM/Gloryhole_Swallow_Skylar_B_1st_Visit.mp4

>>7902391
I want to fuck Tiffany so badly

Does anyone remember that video of the chick with pink hair and at the end she said the only reason she did the gloryhole video was because her boyfriend wanted her to learn to swallow?

>>7902562
I don't have that vid, but it is the best one. So hot, because she just keeps doing it too.

>>7890143
Nice gif, that reminds me of the fact that there can be any1 behind that hole, bet the guy would back the fuck off if he knew whats on the otherside :Dd

>>7895169
We can only hope.

>>7902640
I know its glory hole swallow celias 1st visit, but i can't find it other than the actual gloryhole website

>>7890143
fuck, dont listen to all these virgin plebs, I d face fuck her and cum on her glasses.
>>7890185
>>7890284
you are the kind of guys who will be posting about being kissless virgins at 40 because you grew up jerking off to porn and have such high standards that your inferior selves will never get.

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>>7890411
>>7891302
>>7894532
>>7897212
>>7897948
>>7898684
I found a gif of you guys and your girlfriends.
in the future dont talk shit unless you can back up your claims.

>>7902562
>>7902640
Everything fucking thread someone asks. It's Celia. It's not difficult to go to the website and find source there

>>7902715
there's having standards and there's having no self respect anon.

Any woman willing to suck a stranger's dick while filmed is beyond acceptable as mariage material. Bieng obese and near sighted on top is just too much.

>>7901736
Thank you kindly.

Anybody have the one where the girl has light brown hair with blonde highlights or some shit and she just smiles with the cum in her mouth? I think she's wearing a pink top.

>>7881793
>posting niggers

>>7881797
Very nice.

>>7903429
>being a faggot

>>7886435

You'd cum so hard in that situation, I mean you're ready to cum while fucking some girl you don't know at all, not a name not her face, nothing, totally anonymous, you tell her/knock that you're going to cum and she just says "yes" and keeps going.. she doesn't care if she gets pregnant at that point, and she'll never know who you are for the child support

You just flood her and not have to worry about the consequences.

Yeah I know it's probably staged but still, the concept is hot.

>>7904501
>probably staged
>probably
So they just happen to be in a book store located in a town where all the guys have abnormally large dicks?

>>7904539

>that
>abnormally large

no anon you're abnormally small.

and I've seen some pretty small dicks in gloryhole site videos.

>>7881797
Why does she wear the mask?

Anyone have one where it's from.the guys point of view at the gh fucking a pussy?

>>7904570
for you

>>7906588
>you_dense_motherfucker.webm

>>7890542
cheryl ghoryholeswallow

>>7906580
sauce pls

>>7904539
There's plenty of small dicks on that site.

>>7906811
You may think he didn't get your joke, whereas you are the one who didn't get his meta-joke.

>>7906580
I really need this source. Please?

>>7904570
She was born in it, moulded by it.

>>7904570
because nobody cared who she was until she put on the mask

>>7906580
Dying to know the source on this. Google search shows nothing.

>>7908057
>>7908353
>>7906902
Ariana Marie - Petite Cum Guzzling Brunette DeepThroats 3 Big Dicks

>>7908364
Thanks. You're a hero.

>>7906580
>>7908057
https://openload.co/f/sBFTadUfbiY/Ariana_Marie_-_Petite_Cum_Guzzling_Brunette_DeepThroats_3_Big_Dicks.mp4

>>7910515
sauce

>>7903228
This. This right here.

>>7910146
i know its alina li but any links to the full video ?

>>7890463
>such cum

Any tips on how to find a glory hole in your area?

I'm in Boston if anyone knows any.

>>7910569
Edens 1st visit.

>>7910146
>>7911273
http://www.cumswallowingmovies.org/2015/11/10/gloryholeloads-alina-li/

>>7886435
source?

>>7902730
>Don't talk shit unless you can back up your claims.
They had all the evidence they needed, a gif of your whale eating the only dick she's likely to ever get. Calm down, nigger.

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>Gloryholes
Man if STD's weren't a thing I'd be there every day.....

>>7886435
>>7913192
https://openload.co/f/rh04Vt-KyRg/Gloryhole_Swallow_Savannah_C_3rd_Visit.mp4

>>7904539
>>7904501

It's staged to the extent where dudes apply to show up and as long as they give them a clean STD test they're good to go...However they're not liable if you happen to catch something. And like the previous anons have explained...there's plenty of small dicks in those videos.

http://www.xvideos.com/video11789255/gloryholeswallow_-_celia_s_1st_gloryhole_visit

>>7909081
You're a pretty cool guy, anon.

>>7901733
u have to deinstall ur FAG antivirus then it will work

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>>7910146
staged but not bad

>>7893317
She has one of the best techniques ever...that shit feels amazing. all women should do this

I live in Atlanta... it should be fairly easy to find a GH there but I fucking CAN'T.

Am I looking in the wrong places?
>help

>gloryholegirlz
>bangbros
>anything but GHS or GHS
What's the point? They all finish with their hand and only have limp microdicks through the hole or black guys with average dicks and equal amounts of ED.

>>7881806
name/sauce?

>>7913094
>http://www.cumswallowingmovies.org/2015/11/10/gloryholeloads-alina-li/
jesus fuck after 14 ads I finally managed to download it. If people are interested I might upload it elsewhere

>>7884626
Jesus crhist i need the sauce!

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Anyone find the gloryhole swallow videos really boring?

When you've watched one of the girls suck a dick in the video you've seen it all.

Only becomes interesting if they let one of the guys come into the room with the girl or she titty fucks - even fucking through the gloryhole gets stale.

Will still post what I got.

>>7910515

name? shes a cutie

>>7920535
>>7920781

gloryholegrilz is my favorite of all the glory hole sites because its the only one that's real. You can tell its legit for several reasons:

1) Most of the girls are clearly not pros, instead of lumping 10 pounds of makeup on them to make them look hot like they do with most pornstars, they just let them do it as is.
2) They can't always finish the guy off. Yes it would be ideal if they did finish every guy, but it adds to the realism when some guys can't finish.
3) Many of the guys have tiny dicks
4) Many of the black guys have average or tiny dicks.

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>>7921545
I like reverse BangBus episodes for these reasons even though it is staged.

They keep in things like guys not getting hard or not being able to cum. The acting is very believable too.

I guess the only staged part is that the guys know they're being picked up for sex and they just let it go from there.

Any kind of porn where it's girls picking up 'random guys off the street' sort of scenario is my favourite thing and there really isn't enough of it.

>>7886472
Mine is like that too, no need to worry. It probably hurts her because it's easy to hit her cervix with that dick shape. Have the same problem sometimes. Just use a lot of lube and avoid going balls deep super fast which hits her cervix.

>>7906318
Does this bother anyone else, where she's obviously looking up at him even though there's supposed to be a wall?

>>7922090
that studio is set up so there's a camera looking down at her and a monitor in the room with the guy.

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>>7902715

>not wanting to fuck an obese slut who sucks dicks through holes in walls is now considered "such high standards"

So uh, just outta curiosity, what's your idea of LOW standards?

>>7919759
sauce pls

>>7925942
Faith 3rd visit

>>7923442
The whores you see at truck stops.

Though I suppose you'd call him "Dad".

>>7900463
name??

>>7926207
BURN!!

>>7886472
mine is like that too. my gf loves it, just find the right position

>>7894532
BTFO

obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYS8jyOcFc

>>7890899
What's the name to this?

>>7910146
That 's one hot fucking cutty asian slut !

Sauce anyone ?

>>7903424
I'm curious, too. Sauce please.

>>7885746
FionaGettingShrekt.webm

>>7886472
You aren't alone, anon. Mine curves down like that. Haven't had much of any problems. 2/3 girls I've been with have said it hurts from behind, the other one loved it most from behind. Still 7.5-8", so I'm sure it has something to do with it, but don't worry, anon. Your dick is normal.

>>7926207
>>7926218

Call who dad? This doesn't even make sense, son.

>>7884626
https://openload.co/f/hAJyLCHoM6M/Proxy_Paige_%28GloryholeSwallow_-_4th_Gloryhole_Visit%29.mp4

>>7927106
you think you have problems - mine is curved to the left and down. when it's fully erect it's pretty much facing 90 degrees to the left.

>>7902554
fuck love how she is squeezing that small cock and he is cumming inside mouth and she just keeps sucking and squeezing. She gave a nasty wink at end in full video, too.

>>7927106
Hey dude we have the same dick.

DESU most girls will LOVE it if you lay them on their back on a bed and pull their legs up to your shoulders and sort of fall-fuck them. Our dicks angle is perfect for squirting orgasms if you're into that.

Also, dudes love it from behind, since we curve down and put more pressure on the prostate, also good for a different kind of squirting orgasm. Basically we have better dicks than any straight dicked beta out there.

>>7890858
can never find this one. anyone have link?

>>7888785
sorry to burst your bubble but you can't affect your penis growth like that

>>7927106
>2/3 girls I've been with have said it hurts from behind
I have a downward curving one as well, and same thing with my gf. Dunno why, I'm not even big, but she can't take it at all from behind. Every time i read that a downward curve is sooo great for doggy because you can hit the gspot, i cringe

>>7900463
She kind of looks like quiet from MGSV...

>>7929836
https://openload.co/f/OwnNMwOnOTA/Gloryhole_Swallow_Melissa_1st_Visit.mp4

>>7894860
yeah this shit is awesome, fapped to this

>>7904551
can confirm, small dicks in gloryhole videos are a norm

are the men and women tested for HIVs before this

>>7894860
I wish that had been my dick. Wow, that had to feel awesome.

>>7920558
>http://www.cumswallowingmovies.org/2015/11/10/gloryholeloads-alina-li/

I'll take "What is Adblocker" for 200, Alex.

>>7884635
sauce?

>>7935190
http://www.videoxpornos.com/en/video/rachel-raye-glory-hole-loads-fucking-sucking-5-cocks/

>>7888132
Anyone have the continuation of this webm? The previous thread had it.

>>7886472
you're a monster

>>7897890
>gloryhole thread

>>7888132
>>7935496
http://www.cumswallowingmovies.org/2015/06/04/gloryhole-swallow-allie-2nd-visit-with-catherine-part-1/

>>7931701
Their g spot is more sensitive than a man's testicles and your grinding your cock back and forth along it fairly hard....makes sense

>>7910146
omg, i have her on snapchat u matched with her on tinder i have so many storys of hot snaps she sent before she quit porn

>>7922417
the hell does he need a monitor for?

does anyone know of any glory holes in northern california?

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>>7920781
>Anyone find the gloryhole swallow videos really boring?

Only if they don't get naked or express any enthusiasm. You can tell from the non-verbals.

For example, go watch any of the Claire videos. Her nipples aren't even hard.

>>7938809
Goddamn those Claire vids are the best ones though

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>>7921545
>1) Most of the girls are clearly not pros, instead of lumping 10 pounds of makeup on them to make them look hot like they do with most pornstars, they just let them do it as is.

Doesn't mean it's gonna be good though. (vid related)

>>7938821
Whatever floats your boat.

>>7910146
is that what happens when your nair your dick? His dick is pink

>>7942591
you've never seen a dick before

>>7881793
sauce?

>>7938856
>5
>>7938858
>>7938862
>>7938868
>>7938873
>>7938880
>>7938882

<3

>>7906318
She has such an ugly nose.

So many gloryhole videos are ruined by them having black dicks in it, it's fucking disgusting

>>7896560
amen.

>>7894919
http://www.spankwire.com/Missy-Woods-nasty-gloryhole-fun/video724688/

>>7884621
meth, not even once

>>7886676
>>7886673
>>7886669
>>7883580
>>7881793
is anyone else totally skeeved out by black dicks, they look like logs of shit

>>7890185
>I wouldn't let her suck my own dick either
as you jerk off on 4chan, lol forever alone

>>7896560
fat girls give THE BEST HEAD, thats just science

Can someone post nekos first visit gloryhole swallow Webms? I think I know her.

>>7897212
> forever alone autist virgin rage
> valve reference
GB2 /r9k/

>>7920852
Dude, that's Eden.

>>7943529
Agreed. Absolutely disgusting

>>7916384
don't they test the women, too?

>>7943553
Bump for this
http://gloryholeswallow.com/tour/trailers/neko-1st-gloryhole-visit.html

>>7901071

>you're wife

>>7916384

Maybe nowadays. Back when Shelby was the queen they were just going to Modern World in Phoenix and sucking off random dudes.

they used to have to wait for long periods for dudes to show up. I'm sure now it's a sterile operation

>>7902562
that the one where the bf shows up and she starts bawling because the bf gets pissed she actually did and breaks up with her and she sits there sobbing that the only reason she was doing it was because he asked her too

>>7881797

the mask ruins it, i hope she got paid less

>>7886435

Don't know why but when he knocks on the wall the tune made me kek :-D

>>7920781

Some are boring but it's just how they are. I could watch Shelby all day.

>>7937861
Her name, please?

The only thing that stops me from enjoying this in real life is the fact that some nigger would spreed aids among the ladies and ruin this for every other race

>>7937861
>>7947090

BJ. Yeah, just BJ.

>>7920781
anyone have a link to the full vid? i can't even find shit clips with this chick (if she did more than one scene, i'll be happy with any)

>>7948606
scratch that, found it

https://hqcollect.me/pack/430-gloryholeswallow-com/169555-samantha-s-1st-glory-hole-visit-11-12-23-720p-wmv/

>>7906902
>>7908057
>>7908353

You guys are literally retarded.

Theres a big ass watermark on the fucking vid for sucks sake!

Anyone with one half of a brain could go to Bangros, see their GloryHoles series and find the fucking name of the scene.

Jesus fuck I hate this generation of spoonfed faggots.

>>7946697
Plz zone kind anon do this for me.
No comp to torrent the video, and as far as I can find the video isn't posted anywhere anymore.

>>7948875
I know... I've found videos from nothing but a still image with no watermark on it, WITHOUT google reverse image search, and these assholes can't read filenames or see OBVIOUS watermarks 90% of the time...
Hell, I've even seen clips where toe girl's name is CLEARLY stated, or even displayed in text at the beginning of the video, and 20 idiots still ask "WHO IS THIS!?!?!?!?!?"

God DAMN, I hate stupid kids

Sure, OK, learning how to be a fucking magical internet detective can be a pain in the dick, but it's really not THAT hard if you apply yourself a little bit. And skills gained in one area really can be used in others.
Most of my own internet scouring skills were gained from tracking down "rare" roms way the fuck back in dial up days, with no google at all. And those skills translate perfectly to tracking down obscure ass porn.

>>7948875
People here are so retarded.

I've had people ask for source in videos where it's had the title in the filename (with the actress's name), is clearly a BangBus episode and has the BangBros watermark on it.

SEE IF YOUR DETECTIVE SKILLS CAN FIGURE OUT THE SOURCE.

>>7946697
Bump for this poor anon to fap to that person he knows.

>>7949639
Yeah, man, I think she went to his school or something.
Fucking faggots

>>7936432
Really eager to suck that first dick, huh?

>>7881793
Anyone have the gloryholeswallow vid where a blonde girl comes in with her boyfriend and then gets fingered and squirts?

She wasn't an actress to be clear, she just came with her boyfriend (supposedly). I don't know the real actress' name.

>>7950361
Christ, imagine the paper cuts.

>>7894860
Whenever gloryhole threads pop up this is the gif I look for. She's the only bitch who knows how to get to the base milk every drop, turns me the fuck on.

>>7902550
her little claw hand is such a turn off, so weird

>>7894606
Sauce?

>>7920547
priscilla GHS

>>7904501
There's something unbelievably hot about the idea of knocking a girl up without either of you ever knowing each other or what the other looks like.

>>7935540
>getting aroused by gloryhole threads

>>7901071
>water sports
lel

>>7937861
>>7947090
https://openload.co/f/pgXnNzMbQpE/Gloryhole_Swallow_BJ_3rd_Visit.mp4

>>7950651

>watching a woman go to town on a cock where you don't have to see the rest of the dude at all doesn't arouse you

what are you 13? Do you only like female solo videos and lesbian porn?

these downys talking about that guy's wife like they know anything about relationships or sex or marriage

hahahahahaha

>>7946697
Fucking bump

>>7938856
>>7938858
>>7938862
>>7938868
>>7938873
>>7938880
>>7938882

These girls deserve a round of applause.

>>7954560
100% agree with ya. Job well done ladies
>Applause.gif

>>7954490
Anyone know who is she? Google says nothing...

dont die yet