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Stoya thread

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>>7775726
plottwist
stoyas savewords are fuck shit and yes
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>>7775726
how about post some where we can see her properly naked. none of this tumblr shit
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Anyone got that new scene with her and James Deen I keep hearing about. Supposed to be really controversial, should be good.
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>>7775726
>>7775727
>>7775730
>>7775733

look. she's clearly getting raped. poor thing.
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softer, but she's so pretty..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQuT-Xfyk3o
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>Tumblr gifs
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>>7775823
that was off screen casual sex. or suppose to be. bottom line there's no recording.
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>>7775841
So wait, they are serious with all this rape shit, and it isn't some kind of viral marketing technique. Damn, they missed a huge opportunity with that one.
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>>7775849
Stoya retired from porn a couple years ago, she doesn't do new scenes.
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>>7775920
not that guy, but isnt that more of a reason to advertise something else then? perhaps her writing or some shit, I dunno.
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>>7775823
She claims he raped her even though her site still hosts videos of him. Yeah, sound like how you would react, right? Plus she didn't even go to the police. That's not even victim blaming, that's just stupid to not report a crime but instead blast it on Twitter.
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>>7775920
No she didn't. She still does stuff on her Trenchcoat site
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>>7775935
she will advertise her patreon soon
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>>7776096
There's no point in Rape/Sexual Assault Cases, as it SO HARD to prove in court, it just wastes time and money. Besides Deens' Career is in tatters anyway.
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>>7775849
she wasnt raped or she would have come forward long ago when it happened. She just wants publicity
and if its real then i dont feel sorry for her since she didnt come forward when it happened
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>>7776096
>her site still hosts videos of him
Because rape doesn't automatically mean someone loses their mind, or can't remain in perspective.
They still make MONEY, and it would be stupid if she cost herself money to an asinine point.
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>>7776096
Or .... she's got a legal agreement with the owner of those scenes (not her) to distribute them on an agreed schedule on her site.
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>>7776201
Yeah, because in our male society, that would have gone over well.
"Police, this other pornstar raped me".
"You're a pornstar, you can't be raped, slut".
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>>7776230
with the way they deal with STDs any whiff of rape would be dealt with severely

just look at cytherea- gang raped by blacks and she received plenty of help
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>>7776230
if you honestly think thats how rape reporting works or how the porn industry handles rape then you need to study up
in porn(big groups not amateurs in motels) rape cases are taken very seriously since the entire company can be sued and they will get fucked.

bottom line is only time not to report today is if theres a legitimate danger to someones life(your own, your kid etc.)
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All the links I get about the stoya rape take me to pornhub.
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>>7776260
If you honestly are trying to find it just search "stoya james deen" comes up with plenty of results.
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>>7776246
>if you honestly think thats how rape reporting works or how the porn industry handles rape then you need to study up
In the Christy Mack-War Machine trial happening right now they're arguing whether or not she could have been raped since she's a pornstar
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>>7776292
Hollywood>Porn Industry
If he wasn't war machine that wouldn't be happening
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>>7776317
Won't matter if he's war machine or not if it sets a legal precedent.

If they claim that a sex worker cannot be raped, then that will be held as a legal precedent in every other case that comes forward afterwards. Take an adult film star out to dinner and a show and if she doesn't put out, you'll be able to forcefully take it, since you paid for a service and were then refused without refund.
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If you rape a whore, is it stealing?
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>>7776345
considering there have been escorts/hookers being raped and the courts ruled it was rape means they wont say pornstars cant be raped because they are pornstars
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>>7776201
that's how it works, stop speaking like you know what it is like. People spend a lot of time trying defend their attacker and then coping with their issues before coming to terms with it and admitting it, it's Psych 101 faggot.
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>>7776412
there have been escorts and hookers that have been raped and courts have ruled that it wasn't rape....sooo yeah...what's your point

One chick was even killed and they ruled that it was justified because she denied the john sex and therefore she committed theft.
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>>7776631
>Undergrad SS bullshit 101
>argument

Pick one...
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>>7776635
in the US only extreme cases happen like that. most rape cases involving hookers end in deals.
As it stands rape is rape regardless of the profession the girl or guy has. If sex workers couldnt be raped that is a step away from erasing rape as a crime completely.
sex goes with hookers and pornstars work but to argue that means they cannot be raped is the same as saying a cop killer isn't guilty because death comes with the job.
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What the hell happened to this thread?
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Reading this legal bullshit talk I almost forgot to fap
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If it's not a dude with a bra, or fucking japscat, you fucks turn on eachother
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>>7776687
you guys are worse than fucking Jezebel
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>>7776684
I derail it, you are welcome
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>>7776233
>gang raped by blacks
>blacks

ofcorse she got offered help. everybody knows dont nobody wanna fuck no niggers,
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>>7776635
You're lying through your teeth. The justifications you attribute are completely fictional. Dirty fucking liar.
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>>7777777
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>"James, no"
>"James, STOP!"
>"GERONIMO, GERONIMOOO"
>"GeroniNO, Stoya"
>cums
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>>7776233
>cytherea- gang raped by blacks


story?
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>>7778529
>went to rob empty house
>house isn't so empty
>recognize the owner is a pornstar
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>>7776230
>male society
fuck off to tumblr, roastie
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>>7776201
What a great human being you are. Someone who's gotten rape should know of all these things she/he should do right away when it happens, otherwise they deserved it and fuck them. Go die.
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>>7776687
same here lol
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Stoy..ahh not in my popper James!
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>>7776246
>they will get fucked
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>>7775784
Go fuck yourself with a rake buddy.
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>>7776096
>She claims he raped her even though her site still hosts videos of him.

Legal reasons most likely.

>Yeah, sound like how you would react, right?

Have you ever been raped? The only people who can properly explain reactions to rape are people who have been raped.

You're basically acting like a child who says "I don't like broccoli" even though they've never had it.

>Plus she didn't even go to the police.

Not all rape victims do, and there's a huge stigma against porn stars anyway.

>that's just stupid to not report a crime but instead blast it on Twitter

Yeah I wish she had reported it but blasting it on Twitter will ruin his career too.

That 3 other women have said that Deen has assaulted them is a pretty good indicator that he's guilty. Similar to how Cosby had had allegations against him from like 20 different women.

By the way, Deen was dropped from multiple sites' rosters.
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>>7776200
Yep, he's toast, thankfully. Nice dubs.

>>7776246
I don't think the company can be sued for the actions taken by employees outside of work.

It'd have to be rape during a taping, and that didn't happen. If Stoya had used a safe word in the middle of a scene the production crew would have shut it down in a heart beat.

Besides, predators like Deen are not stupid enough to rape on a camera.

>>7776684
This is a REALLY recent development that Stoya got raped by James Deen, her ex boyfriend and frequent coworker.

In fact, you just posted a scene with him in it.

It's really fucking sad because A) it's rape B) it's Stoya, the fucking Princess of porn and C) it's Deen, the fucking boy-next-door of porn.

It's a huge shit storm.

Also I would've contributed to this thread because Stoya is the best adult film star but right now it needs to be known that Deen is a rapist.
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I'm kinda glad he turned out to be a raper. I was so tired of hearing from every fucking girl that he was so different and was that boy next door type. Feels good to be right about him being a fuckin bastard
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>>7782267
>That 3 other women have said that Deen has assaulted them is a pretty good indicator that he's guilty

You are fucking retarded. And mind you I always thought he was a giant piece of shit, I wouldn't give a fuck if he had to spend the next 10 years getting culturally enriched by Tyrone in prison. But if you think the word of random sluts with daddy issues are proof of anything you are fucked in the head.
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>>7775784
too soon
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Who knew so many feminists and beta white knight faggots lurked /gif/?
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>>7782571
Because mootles tried to turn 4chin into tumblr 2.0, and lots f sjws came over to complain
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>>7776230
yeah that sounds like a totally realistic
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>>7782267
>That 3 other women have said that Deen has assaulted them is a pretty good indicator that he's guilty

It's more than that - Stoya, Tori Lux, Ashley Fires, Nicki Blue, Amber Rayne, and Kora Peters. Joanna Angel said he was very controlling and borderline abusive when they were together.
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>>7782267
>>7782282
>giving a flying fuck about the personal lives of celebrities, let alone fucking porn actors
just fucking kill yourselves already, christ
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>>7782682
You too>>7782684
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>>7776362
shoplifting, retard.
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>>7782688
LOL why are you so mad little boy? I just pointed out that it's more than 3.

I'm following this story because it's amusing to see this guy's nice guy feminist image end up in tatters. Frankly I don't really give a shit if he beat up some whores.
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>>7782682
so sometime years after she not only worked with him but was his gf,out of the blue wo telling anyone else (in the industry, her friends talk it out) she just jumps to Twitter (for fuck's sake) to oust him. wo proofs wo details,just hey one of all the times we had love or worked together, he raped me.
well,I guess we should all be alarmed.
If he has, fuck him, but this ain't the method or the means to attain justice or even discuss it.
No this is trying to gain some popularity as a victim so she can have a mainstream future as a columnist or feminist spokeperson.
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>>7782708
>called him little boy
No class whatsoever.
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>>7776230
>Yeah, because in our male society, that would have gone over well.

>>>/Tumblr/
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>>7783393
Pretty sure she is being raped here.
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"take me back"
"no"
"u just used my body!!!"
"yea. fuk off u crazo"
"im gonna tell everyone you raped me"
"lol ur batshit"
"GUYZ HE RAPED ME."
"...okay im just going to wait for you to calm down and publicly admit that you're full of shit."
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If it was just Stoya alone saying Deen raped her, I admit I'd be a bit skeptical too. But with several others saying the same thing, you have to at least admit that it's enough smoke to wonder if there's a fire.
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so can someone please sauce or give the title of the actual porno where she gets > raped
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how could it be that one website attracts so many misogynists
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>>7784271
It was off camera, during their relationship.
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Here's input from someone who worked as an assistant to James and Stoya when they were dating: http://www.nevermorecollective.com/upset-and-plenty-of-vomit/
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>>7784325
Obviously an incredibly biased article. However it does make you question if this whole thing has to do with spite on stoya behalf. If she did do it out of spite fuck her, however she also makes good porn so I hope she gets away with it so she can make good porn and the shitlord that is james deen can get out of the porn industry.
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>>7782282
>it needs to be known that Deen is a rapist

[citation required]

Seriously, in this day and age where a comment on your private facebook can get you fired from your job, consequences of speaking out in a public forum like Twitter need to be equal. Unless she has proof that would make a district attorney wet himself in excitement over, what she's doing is Libel.

inb4 other people say he's a rapist - That's nice, Are they friends of Stoya but didn't actually witness Stoya's "rape"? Not a witness level testimony/Conflict of interest. Did they also claim they were raped? Circumstantial (Just because Tyrone once stole YOUR car didn't mean he also stole your friend's car).
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>>7784325
I saw exactly three words in that long rambling story about what a crazy bitch she is that are relevant to whether to believe her about a rape accusation:
> falsely claim abuse

Maybe this person could spend more time talking about that one relevant part and less about how drunk she gets on airplanes or what a pain in the ass she was to work with?
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>>7784229
That's the problem, there's too much smoke. If it was just stoya it would be more believable than it is with every single person he's been with coming forward oh so conveniently
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>>7782258
TRIGGERED
Go back to tumblr faggot
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Best rape thread ever
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>>7784472
I heard a few years ago a performer said he was a real bastard and would mutter fucked up shit to her in her ear and would never work with him again, for some reason this never made the rounds, probably because he was porns (and tumblrs) golden child
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>>7784954
those landscaping guys watching them fuck (look behind the dude)
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>>7785220
KEK
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>>7784954
obama?
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>>7775849
Of course it's a marketing campaign. Her website has a porn vid with him on top and her twitter where she accused him had a link to that website above and below it.
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>>7784954
Is that James' face? He looks like he's mentally handicapped.
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>>7785403
That is not james deen
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>>7784472
There have been multiple ardent feminists of the "just believe the woman" type, who personally know both of them and call bullshit on the rape claim.

archive.is/sCvUq
archive.is/DssQO
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>>7785305
kek
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This whole thing is stupid anyway, it will never go to court because there is literally no way to prove it, it would all be he said she said, and the fact that if he did get away with it if it did go to court could potentially destroy either or both of their careers means stoya won't do it. It won't be worth the risk. She has her couple minutes in the spotlight, maybe writes a couple articles about rape culture, becomes a protofeminist icon for a couple months, maybe a year, then it all returns to normal.
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has she done any rape porn?
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>>7778501
Oh fuck my sides. I'm going to hell, thanks anon.
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>tfw found out today Deen is dating Chanel Preston
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http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/272591/nicki-blue-james-deen-assault-silenced-kink-com/
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/james_deen_stoya_rape_accusations_the_porn_star_was_never_a_feminist_idol.html

>8 counts of sexual assault
>Dropped by Kink.com
>Dropped by Evil Angel
>WWJDD cancelled
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>>7785898
I am pretty conflicted about Kink. I get that it's all consensual, but fuck most of it is so rough. You've gotta think watching that will have an effect on young boys.
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This is just like the Christy Mack thing...

Theres an interview where shes crying and recounting the events and she said

"He was going to rape me" while crying.

I cum everytime.
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Interview post rape
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/dec/04/how-stoya-took-on-james-deen-and-broke-the-porn-industrys-silence
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>>7782267
This whole thing thought just goes to show that they shouldn't do porn with fuck'n niggers
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>>7785912
Really, porn in general kind of fucks people up. Because people are getting exposed to more and more extreme shit at younger and younger ages it really has to have an effect. It desensitises people and lots of people get addicted to it. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. I would say quite a few people who frequent this board are at least partially addicted to pornography, I know I am to some extent. I know that the hardcore shit cannot be good for young people. Softcore shit is fine, but the hardcore and super hardcore shit fucks with minds.
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>>7785940
Yeah I totally agree with you on that. I willingly admit I am a huge degenerate porn addict. I remember when I was 13 and could jerk off to a Sears catalogue, and over time it has devolved into needing trannies fucking girls and girls getting DPed just to get off. I'm aware of NoFap and that whole subculture, but in the few times over the past 7 or so years I have been a huge addict that I've stopped for at least 7 days, I really have noticed a huge difference in my ability to focus, to string together words in conversation, and my confidence around women. Not saying there is an absolute linkage, but for someone with as big of a problem as me, cutting porn out helps a lot.
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>>7785951
yet here I am
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>>7785954
Hence porn addict, I am in the same boat.
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>>7776096
Unless you have physical proof a rape took place (ex.: bruising, fresh semen in vagina, common date rape drugs found in system), the police can't really do anything. You can't press charges through accusations alone.
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>>7776201
I was raped nearly ten years ago, and only recently have I had the balls to come forward with it (I'm a guy BTW). Shit's pretty hard to do. Mostly because people on either side of the fence have hostile and vehement reactions to rape as a subject. Once you drop it onto the table, it's a near instant firestorm of debate and argument.

People, of any gender, also get really up in your face on whether what happened to you qualifies as a rape (I consented to it at first -- just not during or after -- and couldn't get away until it was finally over). And once you even hint at it, you're immediately bombarded with millions of questions; some genuinely curious, others sceptical and looking to call bullshit out on *something.* Plus, I mentioned it to virtually no one until this past year. But when I did, I could only utter out vague hints. Because of this, even my closest friends and family, some whom I've known much longer than a decade, had a hard time taking my word for it because I didn't mention it sooner.

It's harder for women, though. Since once the stigma around rape victims pop up, people automatically think of the victim as some poor girl who was either weak and deserving of it, or an unfortunate product of circumstances who should be ceaselessly put on a pedestal (no matter when you bring the topic of rape up -- all sides involved have the tendencies of taking it further than it rarely warrants). And it's even harder for sex workers like escorts, strippers, and pornstars because it's their job to be sexual being. Making idea of having it used against them are difficult idea to fathom for a deplorable amount of people out there.

It's really easy to be dissuaded to do, well, anything about rape. Since the amount of backlash and effort that comes with the territory merely makes it, well, just not worth bothering.
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>>7782425
I thought i was the only person that feels the exact same way about this situation
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>>7782802
Just remember that years later your ex might decide to blast you on Twitter too
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>>7782258
faggot
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>>7786624
>first off
a pornstar who gets raped is like a pilot who flies a plane but not paid.

you cant walk away from something that you do *all the time* and then one specific time act like the event traumatized you.

that pilot might walk away like 'aw wtf i got gypped' but he should be slapped if he tries to play the 'im distraught' card.

>secondly
you cant consent and then unconsent, thats not how that shit works lol. thats called buyers remorse. when you buy a car 'as is' you cant drive it home and then go 'aw damit theres jizz under the seat!' and get out of the agreement. it just doesnt work like that.

learn from your mistake, dont do it again. just because 'its so hard' for you to admit doesnt make it any more tragic, which its not. its the equivalent of some guy kicking your ass. yeah it sucks, you wish it didnt happen, youre sore afterwards but oh fuckin well, dont get yourself in that situation again.
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>>7784229
>if there's smoke, there might be a fire. So there's definitely a fire, based on my previous observation.

Bad at logic
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>>7782282
You are fucking stupid.

Society would be better without your existence, you mouthy, ignorant shit.
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Like half of this thread needs to fuck off back to Tumblr, where every man is evil, and every blubbering woman is a blameless victim of a totally unfair reality.
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>>7775784
That made me laugh.
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>>7787118
>you cant consent and then unconsent
Yes you can. If you no longer want to have sex in the middle of it, then you're free to no longer have sex. You're free to end it and then leave it at that. That's up to you. And if you the other person doesn't comply... well it's no longer consensual sex at the point, so it's pretty obvious the result.
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>>7787118
>you cant consent and then unconsent, thats not how that shit works lol.
since when is it not? once you want to stop doing something, then you don't want to do it. that's pretty fucking simple.

that's what consent basically is. willingly and wanting to do something. and giving others permission to do it to you. once you cut that off, once you stop wanting to do whatever you fucks are partaking in, then they're automatically forcing it onto you (despite if they're aware of it or not). which still means that said act is no longer consensual or with your permission.
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>>7787245
>>7787355
no, i totally agree with both of you thats how it should work, in a perfect world where people dont... get started and 'get into it'... and can stop nbd.

but we dont live in that perfect world and its sort of like lighting a firework's wick. you are going to have a duce of a time stopping it once its lit, but yes you are absolutely right. you have every right to back out of that firework doing its thing.

but thats the difference between technically and reality.the reality is, thats just not really how it works. if you are worried about not getting into something you *might* not be up for finishing, dont get yourself in a situation where you might not be able to stop what is started.
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bemp. because why not?
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>>7787355
>>7787369
this
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>>7787355
yeah but you can't unconsent silently in your mind and then decide "it was rape" YEARS later after you've been interviewed by soft-feminist icon neil gaiman and sold your name to be used for feminist blog articles you barely wrote

right before coming out in a film as an ACTOR playing the role of a rape victim

truth is you can't rape stoya because she is a sociopath. there is nothing human inside her to rape. that is why she was with james deen so long. they were a power / sociopath couple. but she knows she's getting older and now she has to milk the feminist dollar, just like lovelace did
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>>7790084
amen to that brother
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>>7782282
>Deen is a rapist.
No, he's an alleged rapist. We have no reason to believe either party is in the right in this case, just assuming that it's her is complete bullshit.
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>>7787355
Not if they get their way. I had one of these feminists tell me (in person, not even on the internet) that sex was rape if the woman regretted it later. Or even just if she says she does, because they also don't ever lie about this stuff. That's the world they want to make for you to live in. You couldn't even fuck somebody with a contract without them just handwaving it as coerced.
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>>7786624
lol you pussy
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>>7786624
You mean the stigma of everyone assuming you're telling the truth and instantly assuming the man is guilty, and controlling the entire conversation just by virtue of being a woman? Or is it harder for them because they don't even have to actually make a formal accusation, just toss shit out there on social media and let the femdom posse wreck the poor sap's life? Idunno what decade you live in, but what you describe is about the opposite of the culture we live in.
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>>7775784
lmao
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>>7778501

underrated post
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>>7790084
>claiming Stoya is a sociopath
>"getting older" so milking feminist dollar

Stoya is clearly not a sociopath. She has clear and pronounced emotional responses to things. That's not how that works.
Also Stoya's got a bangin bod she could probably last in porn into her 40s
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>>7791221
>Stoya's bangin body
True. Alas, her face is decaying so badly.
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This should be called porn stars who cried rape thread.
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>>7787128

not him but, your position it seems is "if theres a smoke there might be a fire. but probably not so i won't even check whats going on with the smoke"
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>>7782682

All of which blocked me when I questioned Stoya on twitter. especially that manipulative twat Kora Peters.
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>>7791306
Probably because you're a douche canoe, bro.
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>>7791331

Na,it was because I questioned the validity of the accusations because I don't believe any claims without strong evidence.
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redtube dot com slash 8540
one of my favorite scenes she did
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>>7791532
she did porn?????
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>>7791546
hey it might not be much but her actual porn kinda sucked in my opinion
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>>7775784
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>>7786940
But wait.. Can the wolf cry wolf?? The fuck??
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>>7775920
She works for vox. Has some stupid ask stoya thing at the verge.
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just rape my shit up senpai
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>>7784954
>dat pale complexion
>dat pitch black hair
>dose legs
>dose itty bitties
>dar arched back
>dat head leaning back

god, what i wouldnt gib to screw her b-hole over and over until I can't get more wood
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>>7783794
oof a 'new' younger vid. sauce?
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>>7782282
>Deen is a rapist
>Deen has been accused of rape
know the difference.
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>>7791661
So, 2 minutes?
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>>7791785
go screw yourself, Mustafa
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>>7791785
topkek
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>>7790670
Ten women have accused him of rape and/or abusive behaviour:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-deen-rape-explainer_566063f8e4b079b2818d68f4

Two people have corroborated at least one of those reports:

http://www.vocativ.com/news/256579/james-deen-new-allegations/

I have no doubt that some of these accusations are bullshit. In particular, Kora Peters's and T.M.'s stories sound like crap to me. But really I think it's extremely unlikely that all of them are lying.
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>>7782267
>Have you ever been raped? The only people who can properly explain reactions to rape are people who have been raped.
LMAO. You need to get off tumblr m8. Rape isn´t complicated and there are things far worse than it.
Would you rather be raped 10 times or have your finger cut off? Yeah, me too.
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This thread has way fewer gifs of James Deen fucking the shit out of Stoya than I expected it to.
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>>7776635

Bullshit-meter just went off the scale.
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>>7775784
kek
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>>7787118
This.

If you didn't go to the cops IMMEDIATELY then it wasn't rape. Period.
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>>7794715
>what is shame
>what is fear
>what is guilt

People aren't logical robots. There's tons of reasons people don't go to the cops and none of them mean it wasn't rape.

If someone says "no" and you don't stop, it's rape. Carnal knowledge without consent, plain and simple. Everything else is people being stupid or cruel.
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>>7794917

Tumblr needs to go away.

The heuristic he proposed is good. We need less rape hysteria, not more.
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>>7794917
>There's tons of reasons people don't go to the cops and none of them mean it wasn't rape.

We don't care.

Courts have rules because people are shit and will falsely accuse others of anything for an advantage or revenge. That being reality, nobody can take a woman who cries rape on Twitter seriously UNLESS she has filed charges and at least tried to win under the rules of evidence in court. Same would be true man vs man.

Don't want to report it and fight in court? Then keep your mouth shut about it publicly. Human beings are not Jedi Knights or Wizards. We cannot read minds to confirm/deny claims. And it is WRONG to ask the public to judge someone on exactly zero evidence other then "muh feelz!"

tl;dr - if you don't take your rape seriously, don't expect anyone else to.
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>>7794943
No its not. Pornstars have sex in pre-arranged environments with people scheduled to do it, know what they're getting into and agree beforehand.

A pornstar who gets knocked down and forcibly penetrated has been raped. Having sex otherwise mean that they are obligated to accept every attempt at sex. That's ridiculous.
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>>7794963
>Don't want to report it and fight in court? Then keep your mouth shut about it publicly.

Sure, I can agree with that. You shouldn't be able to destroy a person outside court. Those who try should be held accountable for slander/libel.

But not immediately going to the cops isn't a good metric, because traumatized people don't make good decisions and more often than not choose to isolate themselves to try and deal with what happened.
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>>7787355
>>7787369
>>7790084

This tricky gray area is why generations before us had the rules they did.

* Virginity until marriage.

* Dad/brothers vet any suitors.

* Society expected men to commit their finances and hard work, and women to "take care of" their men, "...till death do us part."

Feminists REEEEEE at the thought that a woman would have to wait until marriage; seek parental approval; or "service" her husband in marriage.

But you know what's missing from this picture? Ambiguity. No one has a chance to rape her before marriage. And the expectation that she hold up her end of the marriage contract means rape is highly unlikely in marriage. (Only an insane man would attack/abuse/rape a woman who is going to give it up tomorrow night if not tonight. And in those rare cases there's still dad and brothers.)

Go ahead and tell me that was worse then today when women willingly get shit faced drunk every weekend around men they don't know; listen to feminist shit about how all men are rapists; feel shame for their shitty lifestyles; cry RAAAAPPEEEE; and no one cares unless it's blatantly obvious because women are sluts and dads have given up.

Good job feminists. You've made women more vulnerable to rape and men more vulnerable to false claims.
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>>7794986
>But not immediately going to the cops isn't a good metric, because traumatized people don't make good decisions and more often than not choose to isolate themselves to try and deal with what happened.

Fine, but the window can't be years and decades later unless it's kids with corroborating evidence.

Stoya should have kept quiet unless she was willing to go to police.
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>>7795014
Statute of limitations varies from place to place, and as time goes on evidence (if any was collected) degrades. Proving rape long after the alleged attack can be very difficult.
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>>7794715
In the event of just a mere accusation, be it rape or murder or theft, the police can't really do anything about it on words alone. It's against US law. And rape rarely leaves conclusive enough evidence to make a prosecution, as your attacker can simply claim or make an excuse otherwise. And the legal system is obligated to being just as fair to the alleged perpetrator as they are to you and everyone else.

Also, not everybody goes to the police when a crime takes place. Whether it's rape, assault, burglary, etc. Dealing with the police in general, even when they're on your side, is a just an exhausting and monotonous process that you end up being obligated to complete with or without your say. You have to repeatedly come down to a local station to make a formal report or screen somebody. Then you have court dates being set up for you in order to push forward whatever charges you made in the first place; and your bosses aren't always going to be forgiving or lenient to the fact you had to miss a day or two of work due to court. The chances of the person you're pressing charges against winning the court battle can be pretty damn high; or the sentence the judge gives them is too benign for what they did. And regardless of the crime, you have to put up with assholes who still think your accusation is either false, or you went too far in prosecuting them. Plus you're living in an age where reports of police brutality and corruption have skyrocketed; leaving one more reluctant to go to law enforcement.

After a while, it just stops being worth the trouble; and you just pray to simply not see that criminal ever again.
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>>7795004

yeah, because rape just didn't happen in the past
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>>7782258
lol faggot she wasnt raped
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>>7790670
> proving rape
How does that even work unless you film that shit or what?
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>>7794963
Quit mansplaining.
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>>7776635
>One chick was even killed and they ruled that it was justified because she denied the john sex and therefore she committed theft.
Yeah that... that didn't happen, come on. That's just stupid. Source or GTFO.
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>>7778529
Another Porn star ranted about the crime here:
http://efukt.com/21217_Porn_Star_Goes_Ballistic_on_Modern_Feminists.html

http://therealpornwikileaks.com/adult-star-cytherea-attacked-in-home-invasion/

http://mediatakeout.com/266054/popular-adult-film-star-was-gang-raped-in-front-of-children-by-a-gang-of-teenagers-shock-details-and-pics.html


She has talked about it on her Twitter long ago (maybe 12 months):
https://twitter.com/realcytherea
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>>7783838
>u just used my body!!!
>yea
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>>7775784
>underrated post
He didn't rape anyone, stoya and whats-her-whore-face are just crying cause one got fucked in a way she didnt like
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>>7778360
https://www.reddit.com
Go home and stop bitching, everything hes said is true
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>>7787118

Your first point is fucking ludicrous. A pornstar or a prostitute can definitely get raped, bro. They could be off the clock when it happens?
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>>7795075
When it happened it was far less ambiguous. I mean you had to rip off tons of clothes, the girl was sober and so could fight back really well, yes women are much weaker but they can make it tough to rape them, and so you might have to punch your target out or cut them with a knife to get them to stop resisting.

Now in todays world, its easy to meet a girl on Tinder, drug her drink, rape her. Or get a girl drunk and go further with her, then she sees semen stains and knows she was raped, or makes some claims like Stoya has done where there was apparently some consensual action at first then Deen continues even though she wants to stop.

All of these things weren't possible during the Christian sexual era when you had so many more barriers put on you before having sex with a girl.
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>>7796267
Yeah, they would just hold them down and fuck them, but the woman wouldn't go the police because back then the world actually was really sexist and the woman would likely have been blamed the way modern feminists claim women today are.
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>>7796240
>got fucked in a way she didnt like
>he didn't stop
Literally the definition of rape, autist.
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>>7796264
yes it'd be rape in the technical sense but its not the "omg im traumatized for life" kind of rape like it would be for a non-pornstar
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>>7787118
bump
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>>7794288
...hold up, yo what
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>>7796267
I like you.
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>>7794288
The finger. Would be substantially less painful or psychologically scarring.
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>>7796320
you know nothing and it annoys me that u say this out of ignorence and now i stop fapping for now until i fap over your ignorence.
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>>7796411
use that dried cum to caulk up the gaps in his knowledge
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>>7796411
>hatefucked
>buttfucked
>throatfucked
>choked
>slapped
>facial'd with a load of jizz
>paid
>repeat 50 times
All in a days work

>hatefucked
>buttfucked
>throatfucked
>choked
>slapped
>facial'd with a load of jizz
>unpaid
>once
psychologically traumatized for life GIB MONEY


youre a huge faggot
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>tfw you come in to a Stoya thread looking for hot Stoya porn and there isn't any
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>>7783838
what the fuck are you autists basing these assumptions on?

multiple women have accused james deen of raping them and stoya seems very intelligent as far as pornstars go

get back in your caves you weirdos
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>>7797933
Such a misogynist, wanting to fap over a rape victim.
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>>7797945

"Alleged" rape victim
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>>7797951
How dare you claim a woman would fake rape allegations, you are contributing to rape culture. Cis scum. Women would never fake rape allegations, ever. Period.
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>>7797958
Said every dumbass SJW ever lol
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>>7776230
>male society
Fuck off back to tumblr
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i just wanted to look at stoya porn
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>>7783643
didn't know people smiled when they get raped
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>>7795063
Except if it takes place on a college campus. Then the accused is condemned by default unless they can bring evidence to show they're innocent to a trial where they cant have a lawyer representing them.
Damn, and to think some time ago I wanted to live in the US
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>>7798548


>>the joke
>>dis nigga
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>>7782282
>but right now it needs to be known that
This is the most Tumblr sentence in existence. You faggots need to learn a bit more subtlety.
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>>7783794
>>7783794
Cover the eyes: the mouth looks good
Cover the mouth: the eyes look good

Dont cover, it looks retarded
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>>7785912
>>7785940
I am pretty conflicted about Doom. I get that it's all a game, but fuck most of it is so rough. You've gotta think playing that will have an effect on young boys.
>Really, vidya in general kind of fucks people up. Because people are getting exposed to more and more extreme shit at younger and younger ages it really has to have an effect.
I've always wondered: how does it feel fro the inside to be that retarded? From out here, seeing you feels pretty much like an ice cream headache.
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>>7797933
i feel you
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>>7775836
Hahahahahahaa

o.o

.fuck
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>>7785220
Indeed. Kek.
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>>7798666
>>7798677

That'll do.
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>>7790670
I don't think he's even an alleged rapist, there is no court case pending.
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guys where did the prety lady doing sex go i'd like her back please
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>>7798884
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>>7775726
Her expressions are so fake and change every half second so who the fuck knows with this bitch, she could be enjoying it or she could be gettin raped.
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>>7798887
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>>7798920
You queers can go back to talking about nonsense now.
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>>7776705
source on the right video?
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>>7798729
> alleged: (of an incident or a person) said, without proof, to have taken place or to have a specified illegal or undesirable quality.

So he is definitely an alleged rapist.
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more gifs.
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>>7797958
Genuinely not sure if enraging troll or severely mentally handicapped.
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>>7799859
And I think that makes you mentally handicapped.
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>>7799859
hahahai hope you get raped
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>>7797958
gtfo fag
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anyone have the one when the camera gets so close to her butthole that it seems like he's tempted to start eating it?
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>>7798630
>he really thinks this is a good analogy

false equivalence if I've ever seen it.

Doom is a pixelated shitty game. It doesn't look remotely close to real life, and plus the wrongdoings in that game are things children are taught not to do (i.e. shoot people).

When you're 12 you have no concept of what sex is or how it goes other than you know you really want it. So you watch videos of girls getting blasted in the ass and spit on and choked and getting cumshots on their face and to some extent, depending on the person, you're conditioned to think that this is how sex goes because you had no precedent. This is why your analogy is shit and you're a fag
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>>7803126
Really a lot of places educate about this shit. I agree porn can be damaging to peoples ideas of sex, however that is only for a small portion of people. I know that when I was in school (a catholic school) I was educated on how inaccurate porn is, and that helped separate what is real and what is fiction.
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>>7803408
Although, I do think there should be more education (especially in some more conservative places like those certain states in america)
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>>7776233
>plenty of help
Only in the hope to see the recording.
As soon as we realized there were no cctv, we pretty much all bailed on her.
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>>7796251
>he
>wrong for 2 reasons
>first of all : a chick said something so unbelievably true with the confidence of a child
>second of all : that chick is you, no need to use any 3rd person
>Plus : Still waiting for sauce on that chick that was killed and a judge said "We members of the evil patriarchy approve of that great deed !"
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>>7797414
>go to the airport
>climb in a small plane
>fly to high altitude
>jump
>open parachute
>land
>That's my hobby !
>repeat 50 times
All in a days work

>go to the airport
>forced in a small plane
>forced to fly to high altitude
>forced to jump
>no parachute
>manage to freefal into the ocean at the righ angle
>physically fucking painful but alive
>once
psychologically traumatized for life


youre a huge faggot, actually comparing having your door broken down by 3 niggers to being in a studio where anything you do is validated by lawyers and admin.
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>>7803468
Yeah, but what about the stoya scenario. Do you think she is traumatised because her boyfriend didn't stop when sh said stop. Sure it was rape, but she likely wasn't traumatised. So instead of telling anyone, she sat on it until she could profit the most off it.
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i would rape stoya too, who the fuck cares?
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>>7803516

>Sure it was rape, but she likely wasn't traumatised.

This is your defence?
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>>7803655
What defense. I haven't done anything wrong. I just think in the case of stoya she is milking the situation if it even happened. I don't think deen should get away free, if he did do it, but I also don't think stoya should be milking a situation and acting as though she has it as bad as those who are properly raped. She is clearly seeking the feminist points with this whole thing, if you don't see that there is no helping you.
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>>7796317
LOL WUT?
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>>7803450
Girls arent baby chickens. Check your fucking privilege shitlord.
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>>7796320

I can't think of an analogy that works for explaining why its still traumatising but it definitely can be, especially when its by somebody you're supposed to be able to trust.

I expect you have a job? Well if your best friend dragged you into work on saturday and tied you to your chair for 10 hours then I expect you'd stop hanging out with him and probably take a few days off work.

Having somebody you trust suddenly turn on you isn't nice and neither is having things forced inside your body and neither is being physically forced to work for free.

I don't know if she was raped and I can't get the information that would let me know so I'm holding back on forming an opinion specific to her, but prostitutes can find rape about as traumatising as anybody else and then they've got to go and keep having sex with strangers because that's their job and they probably don't have another means of making money.
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>>7797414

More like:
>hatefucked
>buttfucked
>throatfucked
>choked
>slapped
>facial'd with a load of jizz
>paid
>repeat 50 times
That's my best way of earning money

>hatefucked while you're begging not to be
>buttfucked while you scream your safeword
>throatfucked with no regard to making sure you can actually breathe
>choked to stop you making noise before a neighbour hears
>slapped by somebody you trusted because they apparently hate your guts now
>left bruised and crying while you try to figure out what the fuck just happened and why somebody who "loved" you would do that
>once
psychologically traumatized because that shit was fucked up and now you can't be alone with guys without hyperventilating and having a panic attack
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>>7803516
Sorry I made the parachute analogy for the 3 dudes that bust in the house of that other chick and raped her.
Dunno the stoya story but i guess, unless the guy got all creepy, it was rape but indeed, not life-changing rape.

>>7803749
fuck off, chick. i rape chicks everytime i put my penis in a girl so surely chicks are girls and vice-versa, cum-catcher.
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>>7803797
Thanks, now i'm hard.
>The patriarchy IS evil
>But god does it feel good.
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>>7803797
>you can't be alone with guys without hyperventilating and having a panic attack
Not everyone is such a weak person that they can't live a normal life after a traumatic event. Sure, be fucked up, but if that you have panic attacks whenever you are around men after being assaulted by a partner then you were probably pretty shit before the assault.
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>>7803833
It really depends on how bad the assault was. And how much she trusted the guy (from a scale of complete stranger to best friend) can really have an impact too.
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>>7804013
Unless it was someone like a father or brother then I don't think that level of traumatisation is justified. Would make more sense if it was a stranger who raped her, then she might be scared of random men.
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>>7775726
>>7777777
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>>7783393
lol shes like "bueno"
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>>7776705
These split screens are so hot
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>>7776713
WTF is this pussy shit.
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>>7782682
>>7782267
9 women now. 8 porn stars and 1 secret lady who claims she was raped at a BDSM party after AVN.

Deen claims that women have approached him saying some publications have offered as much as $5000 USD for stories of him raping them. https://archive.is/cqVXC#selection-2429.0-2429.174
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>>7782258
go away you white knight cringelord
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>>7782571
Perfect place to find silent porn you can sneak when you live with your pegwife
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>>7785304
https://archive.is/cqVXC#selection-2429.0-2429.174

Deen says their break-up was super shitty. And that he's a pretty big jerk to all his girlfriends
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>>7785562
Rough stuff with kink.com. I dont know how rapey it gets.
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>>7785912
In my day, kink.com was just pissing porn and lady wresslting and electric buttplugs. Now these girls are getting punched and shit
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>>7786570
It could be enough to finish off his career though
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>>7791532
best music i never had in a porn
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>>7794288
Just because there are SOME things worse than rape doesn't make rape seriously horrible to experience.
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>>7796240
>He didn't rape anyone

Literally 11 women have claimed he raped them. Let's say 90% of women are liars, he is still a rapist. And if you think one of them lied and the 10 others just joined in for fun, you are beyond delusional.

Look, we'll see what the court says. But this shit is leaning pretty heavily against him.
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Can someone post some webm's of her scenes with Erik Everhard? I love how other pornstars struggle to take him to the hilt, but she slips all the way to the bottom.
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>>7796320
>if you're a pornstar and you get raped, it's no big deal, you're used to that

Pornstars use consent you dumbfuck. But let's indulge in your bizarre world and say that the porn industry is just one giant series of rapes recorded and sold to people.

>I went and shot a Vietnam veteran, but it's okay because it's not the "omg im traumatized for life" kind of shooting like it would be for a non war veteran
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>>7804428
Actually not 11 people have claimed he raped them, just that he was abusive in their relationship, which isn't necessarily illegal
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>>7797414
I gave money to my friend a week ago when they needed some for lunch.

Yesterday, they came in and demanded money. I said no, they proceeded to physically assault me and try to grab the money. I screamed no, but they did anyways.

>Clearly this is okay :^)
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>>7803712
>stoya she is milking the situation

Someone committed a crime against her, and she called it out. And this is "milking" the situation

I'm going to come over and fucking kill you. Don't you dare report this threat or you're shamelessly milking the situation.
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>>7804453
Thanks for the clarification. Still doesn't change the fact that we've got multiple people stating he's abusive to women.
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>>7804466
No, she waited ages then posted it all over social media to get in the spotlight. She hadn't told anyone about this until she sprayed it all over social media. Why do that, how does that help you. Usually people who are traumatised by rape and don't want to tell anyone don't one day decide to post it to their facebook. If you don't think she is milking the situation (regardless of whether the rape happened or not) to get attention then you are naive.
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>>7804477
Except abusive to women does not equal rapist.
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>>7804479
>Usually people who are traumatised by rape and don't want to tell anyone don't one day decide to post it to their facebook

i frankly couldn't give less of a shit about women, but this is just wrong.
people are waking up and realizing they don't have to keep silent about it for their entire lives

that's why universities and the media are paying attention to it.
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>>7804479
>milking the situation
>due diligence in punishing someone who wronged you

same thing, innit? just depends if you side with the victim or the criminal.
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>>7804528
Alright, I don't know how women think. Maybe this is a normal thing for them to do. But you have to understand how it seems. It looks like she sold her story to a bunch of news websites and is riding her new found popularity into cash cash money. Bet her webite is doing much better now too.
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There is one video with Stoya (or at least a girl that looks like her). She and her friend are at a play and when her friend's boyfriend shows up, Stoya take him to the back room and fucks him. Does anyone have this video or know where i can find it?
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who the fuck let the feminazis out of their tumblr cage?
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>>7775726

Yeah. Show us how you suck a guy's cock. Show us you little cock sucker.
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>>7804580

Is that the one with or without the "muh safe words. RAPE! RAPE!" scene?
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>>7804085
r u done
nobody cares anymore, good for that guy
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>>7804580
look up Stoya and Sasha Grey
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>people being offered thousands of dollars to shit on him

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/08/james-deen-breaks-his-silence-i-am-completely-baffled.html
https://archive.is/1Q3JS
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>>7798557
Colleges tend to be private organisations like businesses and corporations in the US. They're free to exercise their own jurisdiction and policies, even if abusive.

Don't like it? Go to a different college or job. You don't have to stay there.
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>>7805132
Interesting read, nice to see the other side of the story. I am still leaning on the side of him being abusive but not a rapist though.
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>>7803468
>thinking that if you fell from high altitude into water you would live
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>>7776230
go back to tumblr landwhale
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>>7787118
>a pornstar who gets raped is like a pilot who flies a plane but not paid.

Is this bait?
It would be like flying a hijacked plane with a gun to your head: you don't want to do that, you don't like the situation you're in and you're doing it only because someone is forcing you to.
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>>7798630
But violent video games do affect young minds but I'm betting you don't believe that so I might as well not engage in conversation.
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>>7804538
Not really. Deen's own friend admitted she's keeping her mouth shut because the current political climate must maintain the "believe women no matter what," stance despite her own personal misgivings towards Stoya's motivations.

Shouting out "X raped me!" on social media in our current reality is going to immediately convict that person and render them guilty in the court of public opinion.

Whether or not you want to admit it there's no incentive to not make shit up, especially if you take into account that proving whether it happened or not is nigh on impossible this late in the game and public opinion has already swayed against him.

It literally only takes a woman shouting rape on social media to ruin someone's life these days.

I'm not entirely convinced the quantity means anything either. We've all seen how quickly ideologues fall in behind each other to keep their narratives strong. We've all seen the willful misrepresentation of political blowhards trying to turn inconsiderate behavior into full blown rape. We've all seen how fast deliberate blind trust can be abused in creating mass hysteria.

The people making the accusations can see how quickly people drop their skepticism when the victim tally goes up despite the fact small groups have fabricated things like this in the past just as easily as individuals. Salem; the poster child of "hysteria," is an example of such.

>>7805147
That poster was most likely referring to trends in the wake of Title IX which is federally imposed on any institution of higher-learning that doesn't want to lose federal funding. It's quite literally the opposite of what you say.
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>>7785361
kek
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>>7807317
They aren't alone though and the more realistic solution to media negatively affecting young minds is better education than what we're getting, not a wholesale validation of censorious "think of the children," arguments pushed by those wanting to impose their own brand of cultural politics, especially when some forms of media have no proven links to violent behavior.

I'm absolutely flabbergasted that those kinds of ideas and rhetoric are being peddled by young people and venerated institutions I used to think of a mostly rational Left when just twenty, fifteen or even ten years ago it was the domain of pearl-clutching busybodies doing the same in the name of religion and their own subjective interpretations of moral decency.
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>>7805705
what the fuck I read a post on 4chan that actually made fucking sense? What the hell is going on.
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>>7807474

>I'm absolutely flabbergasted that those kinds of ideas and rhetoric are being peddled by young people and venerated institutions I used to think of a mostly rational Left when just twenty, fifteen or even ten years ago it was the domain of pearl-clutching busybodies doing the same in the name of religion and their own subjective interpretations of moral decency.

Political horseshoe. People on either end of the ideological spectrum who think that something is deeply wrong with the world have more in common with one another -- whether or not they will admit it -- than they do with moderates who are content with the status quo.
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>>7778501
Kek
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>>7807613
You'd find a lot more that makes sense if you'd stop to read more than just the posts that agree with your opinion. Granted there is a lot of bullshit too.
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guys
wheres the porn
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>>7782282
>It'd have to be rape during a taping, and that didn't happen. If Stoya had used a safe word in the middle of a scene the production crew would have shut it down in a heart beat.

1 of the rape/abuse allegations was on set. So what is it, they'd shut everything down or at least 1 of the accusers are lying?
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>>7809066
The majority of accusations are about things that happened on set.
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>>7784325
what did it use to say?
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>>7809582
>archive.is/DssQO
ah, found it
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>>7803408
>Really a lot of places educate about this shit.
As an American, I can tell you that this isn't the case over here. Hell, we try as hard as we can to not even teach kids about sex in the first place. Our sex education is basically abstinence-only. And our sex education is among the worst the world.
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>>7809620
Yeah, I am from australia, I guess we are better at educating this shit. America really needs to grow up and stop being so shit and conservative when it comes to sex education.
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>>7797414
this is the logic that keeps you out of good jobs. I 'd say universities too, but you probably "don't care about those SJW breeding grounds who are for the elite".
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>>7799096
Bad Girls 5
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>>7809620
This is a load of horseshit. Your sexual education might have been abstinence-only, but that is nowhere near the standard for American schools. Indeed, anyone trying to say there even is a standard is lying their asses off. That's part of the problem, there aren't any standards, it's a mixed bag between nonexistent and comprehensive from state to state, district to district.
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>>7810077
While that anon is being stupid, writing off institutions of learning because they're becoming increasingly isolated and insulated groupthink factories for a brand of in vogue politics is not a bad thing.

We really do not need more people blowing their family's money on a useless humanities degree built on ideas that are hardly empirically proven, part of a societal consensus or free of blatant political bias so they can ultimately shore up a corporate robber-baron economy built on shitty service-industry jobs.

The humanities bubble is already on its way to popping and when it does completely being able to intimately discuss Foucault is not going to be useful.
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