Hitler/Third Reich

>>10548502
lmfao didnt even last a decade

There was one where he talked about capitalism and the jews being behind everything from banks to large corporations and it showed the modern examples of it with names of the top guys in the world right now, I haven't seen it in a while

>>10548585
wasn't it >>10548527?

>>10548510
The sone does not go with the video or the meaning behind it. Completely desgraced by whoever added it to the video montage.

Oh look, all the retards in one place.

>>10549095
Juden!

>>10549095

Great virtue signaling my man! You must get all the pussy!! You definitely got all the right opinions; you don't offend anyone!

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This shit hits hard!

Hitler was a cuckstain

>>10548502
make the title shorter next time and call it autism general

>>10549095
>>10549592
>>10549952
go back to your porn threads brainlet degenerates

>>10548502
lmfao England kicked his ass tho
Bomber Harris do it again

>>10548550
This. Hitler didnt know what he was doing.

Why do you guys idolize this guy? Hes ideology is flawed, he opressed people for nothing and started a war that killed so many people.

>>10548502

Everything he said was correct.

Peace offer after peace offer rejected, the British Empire destroyed, all so Churchill could obey Focus.

>>10548517

>>10548585 here?

>>10551196
I bet you believe in the holohoax

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>>10551196

>started a war

Invaded Poland to rescue ethnic Germans stuck there who were being massacred.

Tolerated many attacks from Britain against German civilian targets without retaliation. Britain bombed civilians far behind the frontlines, shattering the rules of war.

They wanted no more than to reclaim territory and get out from under the boot of the Bankers and the Treaty of Versailles. By Churchill's own admission "In the fifteen years that have followed this resolve, he has succeeded in restoring Germany to the most powerful position in Europe, and not only has he restored the position of his country, but he has even, to a very large extent, reversed the results of the Great War. Now the vanquished are the in the process of becoming the victors, and the victors the vanquished. When Hitler began, Germany lay prostrate at the feet of the Allies. He may yet see the day when what is left of Europe will be prostrate at the feet of Germany. Whatever else may be thought about these exploits, they are certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world."

What Hitler did with National Socialism was not only elevate Germany from the most beleaguered nation in Europe to the greatest, and this was not despite his circumvention of the International Banking Cartels (IBC's), but because of it. He showed the world you did not need to be beholden to the IBC's to have a strong nation, and he also became their competitor.

>“We painted Hitler as a monster, a devil. And that’s why we could not move away from that portrayal after the war. We had mobilized the masses against the devil incarnate. And so we were forced to continue in this satanic scenario after the war. We could not possibly have explained to our people that the war had actually been only a preventative economic measure.” – James Addison Baker, US Secretary of State

>>10551467
I admit he had a reason to invade poland but what about france? norway? russia? and so on.

>>10551533
no one questions the fuhrer.

>>10551348
I honestly dont know if it happened or not. The proof has been modified/destryoed long ago.

>>10551535
This kind of loyalty is dangerous.

>>10551533
Well France and Greatbritain declared War on him but he made the first move.
Norway was necessary for the ressources and the access to the North Atlantic.

Russia was alwas the first Goal because Communism was a threat to the World and Stalin had plans to attack Europe anyway. One of the reasons for the early victouries of the Wehrmacht in Russia was the fact that the Red Army was already beginning Invasion preparitions instead of a defensive position. That made it a lot easier to Blitzkrieg through.

>>10551605
Its never okay to invade a country just for resources, its stealing. Stalin never had any plans to attack europe. And the germans had better equipment and strategies than russians, that was the reason they invaded russia so fast.
And why is communsim a "threat to the world"?

>>10551680
>And why is communsim a "threat to the world"?
You cant be serious....
>Its never okay to invade a country just for resources, its stealing

You sound like a 12 year old

And i said ONE of the reasons why the germans had these early victorious was the offensive position of the russian forces, there were several others like the cleasing of tenthousand officers by Stalin years before.

" In the 1980s Vladimir Rezun, a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence and a defector to the UK, reiterated and explored this claim in his 1987 book Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War (written using the pseudonym Viktor Suvorov),[4] and in several subsequent books. He argued that Soviet ground-forces were extremely well organized, and were mobilizing en masse along the German-Soviet frontier for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday, July 6, 1941, but they were totally unprepared for defensive operations on their own territory.

>>10551702
>One of Suvorov's pieces of evidence favoring the theory of an impending Soviet attack was his claim regarding the maps and phrasebooks issued to Soviet troops. Military topographic maps, unlike other military supplies, are strictly local and cannot be used elsewhere than in the intended operational area. Suvorov claims Soviet units were issued with maps of Germany and German-occupied territory, and phrasebooks including questions about SA offices — SA offices were found only in German territory proper. In contrast, maps of Soviet territory were scarce. Notably, after the German attack, the officer responsible for maps, Lieutenant General M.K. Kudryavtsev, was not punished by Stalin, who was known for extreme punishments after failures to obey his orders. According to Suvorov, this demonstrates that Kudryavtsev was obeying the orders of Stalin, who simply did not expect a German attack.

Suvorov offers as another piece of evidence the extensive effort Stalin took to conceal general mobilization by manipulating the laws setting the conscription age. That allowed Stalin to provide the expansive build-up of the Red Army. Since there was no universal military draft in the Soviet Union until 1939, by enacting the universal military draft on 1 September 1939, and by changing the minimum age for joining the Red Army from 21 to 18, Stalin triggered a mechanism which achieved a dramatic increase in the military strength of the Red Army.

This specific law on mobilization allowed the Red Army to increase its army of 1,871,600 men in 1939 to 5,081,000 in the spring of 1941 under secrecy to avoid alarming the rest of the world. Eighteen million reservists were also drafted. The duration of service was 2 years. Thus, according to supporters of the Soviet Union Offensive Plans Theory, the Red Army had to enter a war by 1 September 1941 or the drafted soldiers would have to be released from service.

>>10551680
>Stalin never had any plans to attack europe
>why is communsim a "threat to the world"?
What the fuck am I reading

>>10551533

Invaded Soviet Russia because they discovered the Soviets were planning on invading Europe.

Nazi Germany stole that opportunity from them, and the iron was never so hot again. The Nazis literally saved Europe, and possibly the world, from falling to Communism.

Failed ideology, failed regime, absolute failure of a leader. Even if you're a denier, which is asinine, he had many millions of his own people killed in an unwinnable war, millions of people who were our age - the Hitler youth.

>>10551723
This guy gets it.

>>10551702
>And why is communsim a "threat to the world"?
You cant be serious....
I am serious.

Stalin was ready to fight Hitler and save europe, not to conquer it.

>>10551723
>our age - the Hitler youth.
>our age

The Hitler Youth was for everyone between 10 and 18....

>>10551740
>Stalin was ready to fight Hitler and save europe, not to conquer it.

Let me guess, you have your first semester in human or social studies right now and belive communism is something great while you own at the same time a smartphone and psot this stupidity from a device which you could never have or afford in a communist society.

>>10551753
>Implying that most 4chan users are more than 14.

>>10551761
At least this would explain this guys historical analphetism

>>10551760
>Let me guess, you have your first semester in human or social studies right now and belive communism is something great
I have never studied human or social studies in school, and i believe communism can be great.
>while you own at the same time a smartphone and psot this stupidity from a device which you could never have or afford in a communist society.
This makes no sense. In a communist society you can buy a smartphone. In dprk people have smartphones.

>>10551777
You really are 12 years old, amazing.

>>10551814
What makes you think that?

>>10549071
yeah i was thinking the same thing

>>10551827
>and i believe communism can be great.

This must be bait.

>>10551199
he also sent a peace offer to russia and itally. then proceeded to stab them in the fucking back. i wouldnt have agreed to one either.

>>10551866
Why do you think so?

Is there a youtube channel with hi res versions of all these?

>>10551882
Try trolling somebody else Kiddo, i am out

>>10551888
Kek, the nazi scumbag is too scared to argue with me so he decides to call me kiddo and quit.

>>10548502
this song has been killing me. I know what it is but can't place it. Help anyone?

Source?

>>10548517
what is the song in the background? it kind of sounds like a them from the dark knight rises

>>10552785
NVM, found it
Sad Music from Bleach

>>10551852
>>10548510
Yeah. The song is about Sacco & Vanzetti, two Italian anarchists who were condemned to death in the US for a bank robbery they could never have done. The person who put this on a nazi promotional video is a moron. But yeah, they're nazi's, so what can you say.

>>10551740
fuck of nonwhite

>>10551906
If you truly think communism has ANY redeeming qualities it is a waste of time talking to you.

The essence of communism is: from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Sounds great, right? But who determines ability? Who determines need? Will it be fair because you expect it to be?

Everyone gets all kinds of free shit too, huh?
Not so much.
Would you want to have your appendix removed by a guy that makes as much as a street sweeper? What would his attitude and care for his job be? If you went to school to become an architect, would you be satisfied making what the hod carrier makes?

What if you're a farmer. You work all year to produce a crop. Farmer Joe down the road is busy fucking off and produces shit. How would you feel being left to starve with your whole family when they take it all, everything, because the needs of Moscow outweigh your needs and Joe didn't do his part?

>>10553404
You sound like a very tedious person.

>>10548502
My family members died to eradicate the earth of Nazi scum. Maybe someday we get the chance to do that.

>>10548502
but he lost the war lol

>>10553404
You clearly dont know how communism works.

>>10553404

Amen

>>10553507

Please explain your definition

>>10551196
>Hes ideology is flawed,
And yours isn't?
>he opressed people for nothing
He oppressed Jews because they were responsible for much of the economic trouble and cultural degradation laid upon Germany, not to mention fascism rose to counter violent communists in Weimar.
>and started a war that killed so many people.
You think he started it? You think there really would have been peace if not for Hitler? You're deluded, believing in high school and history channel history. The USSR would've conquered Europe if not for Germany. Besides that, think of how many wars America has started that have killed so many people. Especially recently, at the behest of the very Jews Hitler sought to remove from his country.

>>10553490

Your family members were pawns in a game of elites and we're easily brainwashed because no Internet or televisions back then. Only a couple of cinemas were they showed propaganda

I forgive your family, they couldn't know better. You, on the other hand

>>10551723
>failure as a leader
>actually one of the most remarkably successful leaders in world history
Stay mad, cuckold.

Were / where

I'm also a language-Nazi

>>10553507
It's actually impossible to know how communism works because communism does not work at all.

>>10551740
>save europe
hahahhahahhahahahahhahahaha

Even assuming stalin had totally pure intentions and wanted to save europe from le evil hitler boogeyman, i'm still glad hitler stopped him. The areas the soviets did manage to grab up before the allies could get to them are shitholes to this day

I don't even like hitler or fascism in general but it truly is the lesser of two evils.

>>10553532
>>10553536
These can be answered with the same comment.

I really feel sorry for you people. You're so angry at the world that you want something that feeds into that hate. So it's understandable that you would choose something that is the purest hate and anger in the world: Nazism.

It's funny how you imply that you are of an enlightened kind because you read your history from the Internet... At the same time saying that all other sources are "brainwashing". I honestly believe, you aren't that developed mentally to see how your very argument circles right back to you. In either case, you can find whatever you want on the Internet. You can even find statements that water isn't wet if you were so inclined. Just keep in mind that what you think you "know" about WW2 and "what the Jews did to deserve it, derp", might actually be just confirmation bias.

You are sad anon. I pity you.

>>10552989
Yup. You are right on that.

>>10548502
Poor Churchill later came to regret not fighting against the Soviets instead. Stupid Brits probably ended up ruining the West and putting in motion the events that now leads to its downfall, leftist indoctrination and giving up their countries to msulims. London has already fallen; and the nazis didn't have to step a foot onto British soil. By fighting against Germany, the Brits have ultimately destroyed themselves.

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Didn't see this classic yet.

>>10553587
kek

>>10553692
>London has already fallen

Read something.

>>10550280
im all for hitler threads but why make them here? almost everyone here is degenerate, addicted to porn, or trying to wain off their addiction. what type of response did you expect?

>>10554028
England has fallen. Full of third world degenerates who rape and murder everything they see.


The eternal anglo had it coming.

I still think its funny how the EU was basically the Nazis after the war and europe just accepted that they won anyway.

>>10554119
>>10554119
Yeah, 4chan is for the elite intellectuals who respect hitler, reich?

>>10554186
Thanks for the gibberish, /pol/tard!

>>10551467
>unironically believing this bullshit
>kys

>>10553541
Getting your country bombed into ruins and partitioned less than a decade after taking power and having to kill yourself.
>successful

WEW

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>>10551723

>don't do anything if it will too hard

You are the kind of pussyfaggot who sits on his ass playing video games because anything greater is too difficult. You pussy out at the first sign of any opposition that's not on a screen. You'd rather have your 5 minutes of comfort, carbonated sugar water and bideo gaemes followed by a lifetime of slavery, than put some effort in to avoiding that slavery.

You blame a great man for the International Banker's opposition to him. You beg for chains, just so long as they don't hinder your use of the remote and the controller, and they're long enough to reach your bag of whatever-itos.

The fact is that ethnic/national/cultural identity has been usurped by CONSUMERIST identity. People define themselves and their "tribe" based on the products they buy, the video games and game platforms they play, the clothes they wear, the phones they use, the movies they like, the comic book publisher they prefer, ad nauseum.

Would you rather identify with that, or your ancient bloodlines and everything great your forebears did? The architecture, the books, the history, the wars, giving you a standard to live up to.

Or would you rather post pictures of the new surveillance device you purchased and the Marvel character t-shirt you're wearing?

You're a shapeless mass with no meaning and no purpose aside form what you own, or worse, what you're in debt for. The worst thing is you don't even know it.

There were many despondent, hopeless people in Germany before they voted Hitler into power. They voted for him because he made it clear that the road was hard and there would be tribulation, but if they all combined their collective energies in one massive, sweeping, cohesive effort, Germany could become the greatest nation on Earth. For a time, it was exactly that. It came about not in spite of the absence of Bankers, but BECAUSE of their absence.

You wither away in a stupor. You're already effectively dead.

>>10554295

Not an argument.

>>10554311
>somehow that is his fault even though america and all the other countries wanted to destroy his utopia
wow really made me think there

>>10554767
Your ancestors were faggots.

Also youre a pussy for defining yourself on what you want to believe about other people. You literally dont have your own legs to stand on so you imagine that youre low-key glorious but the worlds derailed you. Truth is youre just mediocre. Maybe you should just admit the truth instead of lying to yourself.

Also, more pathetic than anybody are the ones who extoll the virtues of war and patriotism from behind the comfort of a computer screen. Nobody has any reason to think youre doing anything but LARPing.

You idealize your ancestors so much without realizing that your own lifetime has seen more technological advancement than the combined efforts of >75% of your progenitors.

Keep idealizing things. Keep thinking the men of the past were handsome and virtuous and the women were beautiful and virtuous. Keep thinking that everyone whose seed resulted in you lived lives of good faith (at least one of your grandmothers was raped). Keep thinking you dont have more potential than any of the people who've lived before you; Whod slap the shit out of you for extolling their virtues and lifestyle when, for all you know, many starved to death.

Funny, you deride the other anon for having no purpose when yours is concocted and innane.

>>10554767
FACT: Hitler's Russia campaign was fucking retarded. He advocated for it against all advice; He was high off of his own Kool-Aid that he wouldnt let his people hesitate. Its funny, because it shows that his pride and vision meant more to him than the lives of his people. There are necessary sacrifices (Id put sacrifices that have a chance of success in this category) and unnecessary sacrifices. He was a delusional man but even a dedicated mass behind a delusional man can make great things happen (especially when the mass has a half of a century of frustrations, insults, and wounded pride at its back)

>>10554849

Not an argument: cultural pride is not a substitute for personal accomplishment, but rather an impetus to it.

>more pathetic than anybody are the ones who extoll the virtues of war and patriotism from behind the comfort of a computer screen

Where have I extolled the virtues of war? I have condemned war. Hitler himself did not want war.

> your own lifetime has seen more technological advancement than the combined efforts of >75% of your progenitors.

And it is thanks precisely TO those progenitors for carrying us along as best they could.

>Keep idealizing things. Keep thinking the men of the past were handsome and virtuous and the women were beautiful and virtuous. Keep thinking that everyone whose seed resulted in you lived lives of good faith (at least one of your grandmothers was raped). Keep thinking you dont have more potential than any of the people who've lived before you; Whod slap the shit out of you for extolling their virtues and lifestyle when, for all you know, many starved to death.

Show me where I have said one fuckin word of your garbage, you strawmanning pussy. I openly acknowledged the struggles of the past, and openly acknowledged the determination required to suffer through it.

Can you fucking read? Do you have one god damn argument? Is this the best you can do, strawmen and ad homs?

Start making an argument, or go jerk your little clit and play video games while we have some fucking argumentation, you inbred busted cunt.

>>10554873
Wasn't it shown that the USSR was going to attack eventually and that Nazi Germany needed the resources the USSR had?

>>10554873

Not him, but are you saying the idea of invading Russia was retarded, or the campaign itself?

If it's the latter, I'd have to say I understand. Russian Winter fucked them over after a while.

To say that invading was wrong, is abject falsehood. They saved Europe from becoming Communist.

>>10554887
Yes its true that it was necessary as a precaution. However, the depth of the attack was unnecessary; His advisors were unable to persuade him to attack Stalingrad, which would not only have been a strategic victory but, perhaps more importantly for megalomaniac-Hitler, a symbolic victory since he'd be taking the country that bore Stalin's name.

>>10554879
>When have I extolled war
When you talked about how necessary it was for German youth to waste their life. Thats the glorification: That Hitler's war was worth fighting because the Germans couldnt of lived any other way.

>Our ancestors have carried us this far

Thats not my point. Point is is that youre stuck ruminating about what is irrelevant (in the sense of actually accomplishing something) when there's far more ahead. I dont think history is useless, but to base your identity on what has been done rather than what will be done is a cop-out.

>Show me where I have said one fuckin word of your garbage, you strawmanning pussy. I openly acknowledged the struggles of the past, and openly acknowledged the determination required to suffer through it.

>Would you rather identify with that, or your ancient bloodlines and everything great your forebears did? The architecture, the books, the history, the wars, giving you a standard to live up to.

Yup lots of acknowledging of suffering there. Definitely doesnt look like youre idealizing the past. Yes, sure, you acknowledge the past was shit but you glow when you think about how much they accomplished despite how shit they were. Thats all fair and well, but you DEFINE yourself by everything GREAT they did (does that sound retarded? because it's exactly what you wrote!).

>hurr durr dont strawman me

Maybe you should make your posts more self-contained.

>>10554897
Tactically unsound at times with generally bad strategic oversight; They had locked up no other way to fuel the war machine than the bloodiest battle in human history. Sad!

>>10555009
>exctly what ubwrote xd
Well, wasnt exactly what you wrote but was a bit of a simplification. Ill save you the trouble and acknowledge my idiocy on that one sentence

>>10554879
Hows it an impetus to personal achievement to identify with slanted visions of the past? It doesnt improve it in any way. I think youre just day-dreaming.

>>10554972
unable to dissuade*

>>10555009
>but to base your identity on what has been done rather than what will be done is a cop-out
Not him but I disagree completely. "What will be done" is an amorphous, nebulous thing. You can't base your identity around it because it doesn't exist. The future is just a set of potentialities and possibilities.

The literal present, as in what is happening exactly right now, is similarly unable to be understood. Actions are happening, effects of actions in the very recent past are taking shape, but there hasn't been enough time to properly understand them. In the present it's difficult to know exactly what is happening, and even more so to know how or why.

But the past is somewhat solidified. Obviously both our perception of past events and the amount of information we have about them changes all the time, but the things themselves are fairly "settled" in a causal sense. If you want to manually construct an identity, the past is the only thing concrete enough to judge it from.

That's the main underlying weakness of progressive politics and to a lesser extent modern politics in general. The past is framed in terms of the present and future rather than the other way around.

>>10555044
>slanted visions of the past
All accounts and retellings of the past are slanted. I wish this meme of thinking some historical accounts are "more objective" than others would die quickly.

>>10551777
>In a communist society you can buy a smartphone
>Buying

Disgraceful, comrade. You get 40 years in gulag.

>>10551467
>Invaded Poland to rescue ethnic Germans stuck there who were being massacred.

That's a fine example of german propaganda. Poles and germans lived in peace after 1918 under new borders, but suddenly in the 30's poles said "hey, let's massacre some germans, just for the fun of it, yea?". Get a fucking brain, polish people never massacred anybody in their entire history, it is always they who got massacred.
Don't get me wrong, poland had it coming after they allied with french and british instead of hitler, but don't believe a mindless propaganda, that was just a pretext to attack poland.

>>10555009

>to base your identity on what has been done rather than what will be done is a cop-out.

That's not what he said, he said that cultural identity give you an impetus and a sense of something to live up to.

Maybe you're looking at the same thing and interpreting it differently. He sees the past and it gives him an ideal to strive toward, you see it and say it doesn't matter, but you arrive at the same conclusion, which is that there's more to be done and more to uphold.

Life was suffering, and the meaning of life was to give meaning to the suffering. He openly acknowledged that from what I'm reading.

>>10555745

Great post, we see the past through a modern lens and it skews our perception, and thereby skews our beliefs which we derive from our perception. Feminism is a great example.

>>10559282
>polish people never massacred anybody in their entire history
jewishpeasantlaughing.gif

Seriously, you can't be this retarded.

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>>10560452
Gas yourself kike.

>>10560464
I don't give a fuck. He just said poles never massacred anyone, and they literally did.

>>10560531
Who ? Proofs ?

>>10560561
google "pogrom" you stupid fuck

>>10560575
Absolutely nothing on polish people, russians did pogroms, sometimes on former polish clay you fucking inbred. kys

>>10560464
He came back from the dead, after he was beaten to shit by Bear Jew! :D

>>10551535
Not even himself. Then people ask why he lost.

>>10548585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

>>10551467
>They wanted no more than to reclaim territory and get out from under the boot of the Bankers and the Treaty of Versailles.

So why attack all the Jews?

>>10560614
I guess I have to do all the work for you. look up Lwów pogrom.

Also, implying there weren't Tsarist/Nazi collaborators who couldn't wait to pogrom some juden

>>10549095
Schlomo wants to shame these threads.

>>10560794
They saw the Jewish elite as very connected to the problems they faced. Many people seem to believe the party thought literally all jews were part of some anti-german conspiracy, but the reality is that the Jewish people as a hole were an acknowledged symbol of this elite, their interment and forced labor was symbolic of the larger perceived struggle (plus cheap labor which is all dissenters are good for in a totalitarian regime's eyes).

It should be clear I'm not a Nazi, I just think people are so itching to list as many ways the Nazis were the evilest people ever to exist they deny themselves the opportunity to understand them and precisely how and what kind of evil they were.

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>>10554119
Because /gif/ is were you post webm and gif threads you retard

>>10548502
IS THIS THE THREAD WHERE ALL THE INBRED WHITE TRASH UNEDUCATED FACTORY WORKERS TRY TO TAKE CREDIT FOR ALL WHITE ACCOMPLISHMENTS?

>>10560855
So they attacked all Jews because of symbolism but they were really after a few elite ones? Not sure how symbolism excuses the oppression they and others faced.

That alone is an evil. The very deranged idea of persecuting a people for the actions of some that you associate to be part of them.

>>10551467
Britain and France made an Alliance with Poland. Invading Poland was inevitably going to lead to war with Britain. It also lead to war because Hitlers desire was war. Britain and Poland were open to continue talks but Hitler only wanted to talk in ending Britains agreement with Poland so he could go to war. He did anyway hoping Britain wouldn't honour its agreements.

He did make a pact with the Soviet Union though so they wouldn't back Britain and Poland. They did ally with him and they attacked Poland together. Unlike the British thought he broke that pact and attacked the Soviet Union later.

Also this virtue signalling of Hitler just wanting to save ethnic Germans is laughable. He slaughtered the Polish people. If then harming German people is bad he did way worse in his invasion of Poland against Polish people.

man this is some degenerate shit

>>10561551
>So they attacked all Jews because of symbolism
No, they attacked them because any of them were not exactly assimilated into the native culture and thus were seen as invasive foreigners. The Jews just got more popular attention from the Nazis because of the additional stuff with the jewish elite. Other ethnic and religious minorities were also targeted in a similar way, just not publicized in the same way.

>Not sure how symbolism excuses the oppression they and others faced
Again, I never said the only factor was symbolism. Also, nothing I said was meant to excuse anything, I simply seek to understand and explain their actions. Condemnation is assumed and thus irrelevant to state.

>That alone is an evil
Yes

>The very deranged idea of persecuting a people for the actions of some that you associate to be part of them
It wasn't in retaliation, again as I've said they just received extra attention because they lay closer to the issues at the heart of Nazi ideology as a culture and in many cases as a class. As far as the actual laws concerning their persecution they were not particularly unique from other minorities like the roma.

>>10561645
>Also this virtue signalling of Hitler just wanting to save ethnic Germans is laughable. He slaughtered the Polish people. If then harming German people is bad he did way worse in his invasion of Poland against Polish people
I don't understand your point. He cared about ethnic Germans and Germany, why would killing Poles and annexing their country be at odds with that? He never said harming people is bad, he simply wanted to defend his people. The Allies and the soviet union killed many Germans and caused much devastation in the invasion of Nazi occupied territory, are they hypocrites as well?

>>10561693
>I don't understand your point.
It is in no way a justification for starting WW2 or even invading Poland itself and you cannot complain about Britain honouring its agreements. If Hitler didn't want to go to war with Britain he should not have invaded Poland.

>He never said harming people is bad, he simply wanted to defend his people
He also wanted more land for his people. He failed in defending his people then by starting the war. He was even allied with the Soviet Union at the start of it and attacked them leading to more war and many more needless deaths of German people. He was a massive failure in trying to defend the German people. If he didn't want the devastation caused by the allied nations invading the occupied territory he could have surrendered. The allied goal was after all to end the Nazi regime which is what it did and could have happened if it is surrendered saving many German lives.

>>10561693
>No, they attacked them because any of them were not exactly assimilated into the native culture and thus were seen as invasive foreigners.
Which isn't true. I also said others as in not just Jews. I said "persecuting a people" not "persecuting the Jews". It is a deranged idea no matter which group of people you want to use it on.

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Norway was necessary because of sweedish iron ore from Kiruna through the port of Narvik. Hitler was not stealing it, more like securing the access.

Anyway one could question the outcome of the invasion of Norway, since it didn't really have any great strategic advantage. It only made the Kriegsmarine suffer great losses and bound up around 300 000 men which could have been at better use elsewhere

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>>10552989
this thread should be called spot the cuck

>>10561792
>If Hitler didn't want to go to war with Britain he should not have invaded Poland.
Right, because Poland=Great Britain. He said he didn't want to go to war with the UK and the US but the banking industries of those countries wouldn't listen, the media was controlled (like today) and the politicians were in line with the powers that be.
>>10561792
>the Soviet Union at the start of it and attacked them
they were amassing armies on the borders of Europe. They were going to attack anyway.

>>10562202
>Right, because Poland=Great Britain
It does when they have a military alliance and you invade one country.

>they were amassing armies on the borders of Europe. They were going to attack anyway.
Do you discount Germany doing that before the war even started?

>>10553493
With most of the world fighting against Germany, it's not really hard to understand why. However, Germany managed to occupy Norway, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Poland, Denmark and vast stretches of the Soviet Union at their zenith. Then came the massive output of the Jews in America.
Quality can fight quantity to a certain extent. The Allies simply threw soldiers at the Wehrmacht, who couldn't keep up.

>>10562093
Found him! What do I win besides fucking your wife?

>>10551702
"You sounds like a 12 year old." Does not explain to 12 year olds why it was worth killing millions of people and ruining hundreds of millions more people's lives, subverting democracy by assassinating elected leaders and their families, funding terrorists and rebels, plunging entire countries into poverty by force for half a century, while claiming moral superiority, all to Dave these people from what, trying out an economic model whic, according to you, as bound to fail anyway in short time.

So far the best argument I've heard to justify the Britis & Americans actions in the 20th century is: we plunged them into unrest and ruined their lives and destabilized their countries and kept them in poverty, to save them from making a mistake they're too dumb to understand could have ended up with them in poverty.

This is why the world will not weep when the ime finally comes to stab Caesar.

>>10554186
lol you fucking tool.

>>10549518
The Jew. The true evil of this world.

>all these webms of nazi speeches
>no originals
>everything just taken from GSNT
I just want to listen to some originals without that cheap music in the background that makes me think of some Naruto hype before a fight or some starving kids in Africa commercial, goddammit.

>>10548550
Maybe because quite literally the whole world was against him you fucking degenerate. Jesus christ, natsoc didn't collapse by itself. Communism did though

I like how every argument against NatSoc is refutable. Try to keep finding flaws, you can't. It's perfect for europa.
88 from Eastern europe. Gott mit uns

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>>10561792
>It is in no way a justification for starting WW2 or even invading Poland itself
According to whom? I would agree but he wouldn't. I'll get to why in a second.

>If Hitler didn't want to go to war with Britain he should not have invaded Poland
And if Britain didn't want war they should not have invaded Poland. WW2 is a weird case because there is no instance of one of the major players in the war attacking another without even vague provocation. Britain guaranteed to defend Poland to oppose Hitler, it's not as if they had a prior alliance. Hitler believed, and the historical record backs this up, that Stalin was preparing for an invasion of Europe and chose to strike preemptively. The Japanese believed they could get the US to back down from sanctions with a decisive show of force. I'm not saying I would have made these decisions but they were not random acts of aggression. Not that no attack was made with pure aggression, just not one major player against another.

>He also wanted more land for his people
There is no "also" there in Nazi ideology. Securing a strong future for their culture was one of their ways of protecting it from destruction, which ties very directly into the Triumph of the Will concept, to survive you must become strong, and stronger than your enemies.

>He failed in defending his people then by starting the war
Not until later. If the US hadn't aided Britain and later entered the war I firmly believe they could've beaten the Soviets and Britain by themselves, or at least stayed around for decades before collapsing to some sort of Reich-wide uprising. Obviously thank God that didn't happen, but it's just ignorant to insinuate Germany was doomed the moment it attacked Poland.

Cont.

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>>10561792
>If he didn't want the devastation caused by the allied nations invading the occupied territory he could have surrendered. The allied goal was after all to end the Nazi regime which is what it did and could have happened if it is surrendered saving many German lives
This is how I know you really have no fucking clue about what the Nazis really believed, exactly as I said many posts ago. In short, surrender to the Allies was the same as the destruction of Germany to them.

Their war was a war for the future of the German people. The Nazis and their ideology was the last bulwark against the wave of internationalism that seemed to be consuming the world, almost a monster. Imagine trying to surrender to a monster that wants to consume you, it'll eat you anyway so why not make it suffer for it?

This wasn't even exclusive to the Nazis, each side saw the others (and I am counting the Allies and the USSR as different sides) as existential threats to their ways of life and the futures of their nations . Why didn't Hitler just surrender? Same reason Britain didn't, same reason Russia didn't, and same reason the Japanese wouldn't have if not for what would seem like the wrath of God being able to wipe out a million souls at a time. The Nazis fought until they no longer could, and I guarantee you everyone else would have done the same.

>if it is surrendered saving many German lives
But in their eyes it also meant the death of the German nation, and that was the thing they were protecting.

>>10561822
>Which isn't true
Why not? They defined their nation as the nation of ethnic and cultural Germans. By that definition someone of a relatively insular subculture who holds different values, has a different cultural identity, and has a different history is a foreigner. I'm not saying I think that logic is "good", but it's totally internally consistent. Under their definition of "foreigner" or "non-German", the Jews and other minorities qualify.

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>>10553490

Mine to. They died for the jews to keep ruling us from the shadows, they died allied with the communists who killed 50 million Russians, they died to flood our countries with hordes of foreigners to genetically destroy us.

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>>10563453
Should've replaced Buzzfeed with Buϟϟfeed

>>10549952
(you)

>>10551196
>this is what normies actually believe

>>10551777
>when your utopian society fails and kills a million people but it's okay because it wasn't real communism so you can rebuild a utopian society
>and it fails and kills a million people but it's okay because it wasn't real communism so you can rebuild a utopian society
>and it fails and kills a million people but it's okay because it wasn't real communism so you can rebuild a utopian society and

>>10551740
So by "save" you mean "rape to death and massacre"? Because that's what Stalin did to Russia and Germany and Poland and every other square patch of dirt the soviets set foot on

>>10553507
>Communism
>work

>>10553587
top banter

>>10551467
kek if Hitler didn't want a war he would have waited with the war declaration on Poland for Mussolini to have his forces ready (which he told him not before 42) but he had to start a war in 1939 else he could have never repaid the debts he took to make Germany the country you decribe it. Because at the end of the day it was money who made it great again, not Hitler.

>inb4 boo the others were evil too
yeah I know and you don't see me idolize Churchill, Stalin or any US president retards

>>10553630
>Nazis
>hate
It it natural to hate what would attack what you love. But while hate brings us here, it is ultimately love that keeps us.

You seem surprised that accounts and evidence which are banned from schools and outlawed in certain countries are considered to be highly valued information and perhaps carry more weight than what the victors of a war give you. After all, were you not raised reading accounts of the holocaust? Were you not given years of history instruction in how the Jews were mercilessly massacred by the big bad evil nazis?

Of course in this time you probably read works such as that of Elie Wiesel, or as we know him here, Elie "Just because something didn't happen doesn't mean it isn't true" Weasel.

Or perhaps they skimmed over the Nuremberg trials; a gross miscarriage of justice that even attending Allied dignitaries found to be a complete farce and a witch hunt.

I find it astounding how people receive a high-school level education on WWII and the Holocaust and then run about pointing fingers at everyone who pursued the subject any further, screaming "Ignorant! Ignorant! You know nothing!" as if they'd been doing any research of their own. I can tell you when Treblinka II was built. I can tell you Auschwitz had a whore house and a swimming pool, and I can tell you that all this nonsense you've been fed about 'hate' is the product of a victorious propaganda machine as old as history.

>>10548502
unfortunately he tried to win the war by appealing to Englands sense of ethics (by bombing civilians instead of supply depots and weapons caches) which took too many resources and only empowered them in terms of morale. One of his few mistakes, a misunderstnding of the human condition.

>>10566543
Everyone always talks about Nazi propaganda, but they forget that the Allies and the USSR were just as big on it. The Nazis were just slightly better at it at the time, but post-war the victors continued to advance in their information warfare capabilities.

You don't have to like the Nazis to not believe the many lies about them. And as I've said ITT and elsewhere I think the lies actually rob people of a true understanding of history and thus an understanding of actual Nazi wrongdoings.

>>10548527
I see his point but it's so hypocritical in so many ways. He forcibly silenced his opposition as well, burning books and disbanding media that had anything to say contrary to his narrative, not to mention the whole genocide thing. There's a way to show people the path without terminating their ability to speak their mind or ability to exist. But it also does not come from tacit compliance.

>>10566614
To be a lover of peace but accepting of the human condition.

quit idolizing nazis you fucking dweebs

Why don't you Nazi loving cunts literally just kill yourselves already?

>>10562907
If he'd stopped at annexing ethnic German areas of neighboring states, it could've all been avoided. He got greedy and that's why he had the whole world against him.

Make Germany great again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7DnHmQ8tE4

>>10551196
fucking jew!!!

>>10566677
The Nazi economy did need the war due to the state finances being unable to support the policies. That's why the Nazis pillaged so many nations. Nazi Germany needed to win World War 2 and take the Soviet Union in order to survive.

>>10561014
kek
I love NileRed :D

it's nice to see this thread after the interracial cream pie

I can randomly remember this in the middle of the day and just start laughing.

Can't find the one where they added the "Why dose it feel so good, So good to be bad"

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Didn't work the 1st Time

>>10549897
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>10554186
Londinistan is a joke. Nice Kahn they have installed as the mayor. The lion has been gelded by the scimitar. England is done.

>>10551199
What about the Russian peace offer, or was it lost in Siberia somewhere

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>>10560452
niBBa stick to the primary point

>>10553404
niBBa life aint 'bout JOE. WE really couldn't give a fuck less about the individual known as Joe

I'm not deliberating anymore. Have fun with the little information I gave you