Lets argue about hypnosis

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No sissy stuff please. I'll willingly try to succumb to anything else you want to post.It won'r work as I have my boundaries!

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This one has no impact what-so-ever

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Not sure how this is supposed to work

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And...........there's something here that is suggestive, but............

Get yourself a self-hypnosis tape and try looking at these images whilst you play it. Only two work for me, but losing control....never......

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And this is just rediculous

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And this isn't going to do anything to you that you haven't already done to yourself before :-)

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Be honest..you wouldn't need to be hypnotized to want to touch her......you'd do it anyway!

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>>10222374

I mean brainwashing, indoctrination, Stockholm's syndrome, propaganda and social programming could count as a type of hypnosis that makes you do what you don't want to (or teaches you what to want, so technically no?)

>>10222489
I would not class those as hypnosis - they all have their own classification (the ones you gave them). By-the-way, don't get me wrong, I know for a fact...hypnosis does work and i do practice it often (even sexual hypnosis)...but it can only work if the person or person(s) want it to.

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This one may get you staring at the spirals, but it is not going to affect you in anyway...if it does...let me know

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LOL

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This is just annoying - hard to go into a trance when it makes you pissed off

>>10222388
>no sissy stuff
What's the point then, the fun is doing something that you would not do if you were ok

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:-)

>>10222672
Nope, the fun is that you can experience stuff you like doing but like never before. For example I am now able to control some of my dreams (you can guess how that goes, includes flying of course). If you get it right with sex it is mind-blowing!!!!!

>>10222700
You are not supposed to dream about it, after watching a lot of sissy hypnos i found myself normal most of the time but...

>get hooked up with ex college gay friend
>purposedly go there on a hot day with shorts
>tells me is ok to be shirtless if its too hot
>pretend to play dumb most of the time
>goes to the kitchen then comes back naked and hard
>doesn't say anything i just go down on his cock
>"wow i didn't even have to say anything you horny slut"

i realised that the hypnos got me a little bit more than i realised. Its not about "dreaming" about it, its about doing something automaticly the moment you get a trigger for it

>>10222733
You missed the point....I WANTED to control my dreams and there are proper hypnotherapists out there who can help you do it. They did it for me.

I've watched the so-called sissy stuff - just makes me think how stupid they are and they can't hold my attention at all. Have seen and listened to some proper, hetero-sexual stuff and done this with my partner, so yeah....great results!!!

>>10222374
Is hypnosis even a real thing, seriously?
Ive had six people try ut on me, and all that has haplened is me listening to their half-retarded voices for half an hour.
I dont drift off, I don't lose awareness of my surroindings, or where/when I am. This shit is about in the same camp for me as homeopathy.

Yeah, calling this "hypnosis" makes no sense. It's willful conditioning, but you can have fun with it anyway.

To enjoy "hypnosis," you have to want it in the first place, and you also need to like the video, so spend time looking through the dreck until something really grabs you. That could take awhile because so many of these videos focus on one fetish or another and they can get real weird. Keep looking.

Once you find the video that excites you, go into it like this: Let your mind relax, allow all outside suggestions to enter your thoughts. For the video's duration, accept everything it says as fact while you watch, even what it says about yourself. Concentrate on the material so it fills your entire mind, and let it stay full. Really zero in on that shit. Remember that these facts only apply to you during the session, and you choose how long a session lasts. Once you've had enough, however long that takes, just close the video, and move on with your usual day.

Give that shit a shot. You might like it, it's cool if you do or don't. I'm a visual person and super picky about audio, so I mute the videos and put on some music.

>>10222889
>>10222855

because you've never had a trigger before, for example sissy videos would have the cock as the "signal". You just need to try it out, it worked for me when i tried it

>>10223088
How do I find what ny trigger is?
Jesus Christ on sticks, I sound like a Tumblerite now, fuck.

>>10223088
Has nothing to do with a "trigger", it is an altered state of mind ....here's the quote "Hypnosis is an altered state of consciousness that has been in use for thousands of years. The ancient Egyptians used altered states of consciousness in their sleep temples, for healing. It is a very ancient healing method. Hippocrates, the father of medicine (460 - 377BC) recognized the power of the subconscious mind." And yes, you have to WANT it...going into it with a sceptical mind set will guarantee it doesn't work. All hypnosis is self-hypnosis. The images are fine, but it is the audio that really works. I'm searching for gifs I can use with audio I that I know works, and stuff I am making myself. Here are some good names to try Glen Harold, Jody Whitely, Paul McKenna, Fiona Clearwater, Mark Bowden. In the "wrong" frame of mind though you will be wasting your time and money (if you buy anything)

>>10223768
LOL see post after yours. Get yourself a good recording that addresses something you really desire (best to keep away from sex topics as these will tend to bring you out of trance when you get excited, until you know how to handle it).. Maybe one on getting fit, giving up smoking, sleeping well, lucid dreaming etc, something you REALLY want but find it hard to do. Then just follow the suggestions made on the recording. It really is amazing when it works.

>>10222374
why you may not be able to force some one to do something they don't want too. its fairly easy to fool them under hypnosis.
with a really good hypnosis subject it wouldn't take long to get some kind of sex out of it just depends how ruthless you are.

>>10222606
When you get the star in Mario kart

>>10224541
OP's kinda right, I don't think you could make someone commit murder or something crazy. But being hypnotised is like being drunk, or really high. Your inhibitions go, and suggestions feel like great ideas.

you have to agree on what hypnosis is before you can provide credible and acute insight on it

>>10224777
i think with the right subject you could completely convince them they could fly, then lead them up to a rooftop some where and tell them fly be free and they would run right off the roof fully thinking they were going to take off.

>>10224668
Kek

>>10224860
Of course you can't. The subconscious mind does not work against its owner. You WILL come out of trance or react against anything that you do not want to do, or against anything that is going to hurt you. I've had a hypnotherapist tell me that I will forget what day it was - went against the grain and I just dropped back into "normal" state. Same goes for trying to make me forget numbers. However, exercising, weight loss, lucid dreaming, all great fun and worked for me.

>>10224541
Impossible. Just doesn't happen. Hypnotists are only making suggestions to you and YOU are the one that puts yourself under. All hypnosis is self hypnosis.You can't "fool" anyone in hypnosis as they are still completely aware of what is going on. You need to try it yourself and then you will understand.

>>10222374
bullshit

>>10222374
Its easier than you think if you fuck with perception rather than motivation
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsmb2c_derren-brown-how-to-make-a-mind-controlled-assasin-was-james-holmes-created-this-way_tech

>>10225039
when i first started i used to believe all the stuff you've obviously been reading but not so much anymore.
i would never try and convince some one to harm themselves or some one else but i think its possible with the right subject a Somnambulist

>>10225118
When did you first start. My experience is not only reading but practical and have been at it for years.

>>10225053
You mean deception and that has nothing to do with hypnosis (you CAN make people do things or react in certain ways if you deceive them "Candid Camera"). You don't need hypnosis for that.

>>10225118

well yeah, find yourself a karl pilkington and he'll probably do anything you tell him, fully aware

This threads fucking retarded

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Anyone have anymore images or even a webm - hard to find some relatively "straight" stuff, so relying on you guys and gals

>>10222374
>>10222855

Hypnosis doesn't exist. It's just people doing stuff because 'being hypnotised' gives them cover to do bizarre stuff. The stage hypnotist tells you to eat an onion like it's an apple and you do it because you're on stage and you think you're hypnotised but really you're just doing what you're being told to do because you're all in on the same act.

It's the same way people all develop glossolalia in pentacostal churches - you're just doing what you think you're supposed to

Also occurs with people 'acting' drunk. Drunkeness is definitely a physiological phenomenon, but there's loads of evidence that a lot of the behaviour you see from drunk people is part of a social act, an over emphasis of drunken effects purely because it gives you cover to do shit you're not usually supposed to do. Alcohol *does* lower your inhibitions, but people act out even more than that as well.

>>10225053
Derren Brown is a performer and magician. Even he admits everything in that show is made up garbage.

>>10222374 >>10222388 >>10222399
Jesus, did you get these from a 90's webpage?

>>10228640
>Hypnosis doesn't exist. It's just people doing stuff because 'being hypnotised' gives them cover to do bizarre stuff.
It does exist, and in fact has a scientific name: The Placebo Effect.

My mom quit smoking by seeing a hypnotherapist, she tried patches, gym, cold-turkey, none of that worked but now she hasn't had a cig in close to ten years. It's fascinating, the placebo effect can be quite powerful.

Similarly with alcohol, most people don't intentionally use it as an excuse to act like a retard, it's subconscious.

>have hypnosis fetish
>so hard to find anything on the internet because 98% of "hypnosis" stuff is gay faggot garbage like what OP is posting

Yes hypnosis does exist and it's real. No, it's not what most of the popular media describes it as.

It can actually be used for kinky stuff too. I have hypnotized girls before (both online and IRL) for some sexual things. Obviously, she was always a willing subject and we discussed before what sort of things I'd try to have her do while she's under. Otherwise it wouldn't work.

What OP posts is not hypnosis in the slightest.

>>10229527
Have a look at Entrancement

>>10229495
Hypnosis is not the same thing as the placebo effect, though they are somewhat related in that they operate bellow the level of conscious awareness.

>>10231332
I know about Entrancement. Also about others like Hypnolust, Robopimp. And JAVs. But still you need to know how to search for them to avoid the gay faggotry stuff.

I find it fucking hilarious there's a bunch of retards mad about sissy hypnosis since that is pretty much how this shit started. Yeah there was some fuckin' hentai and retarded staged "pornstar stares at a pendulum for 5 seconds and becomes a fuckslut" but hypnosis as an actual thing like you faggots are posting DID NOT START till straight/bi dommes started using it to get inside the heads of closetcases. Like you. Like you whiny little faggots. You're smart to avoid the sissy hypnosis but you're not going to avoid it forever. Go into your cryshed and bitch some more retards, the sissy stuff is way better made and way more fappable. Get ready for dreams of sucking dicks ya fuckin' babies

Hypnosis works. This thread is trying to trick people into thinking that it only works if you want it to, that way when you start to have the feelings you've been hypnotized into, you'll think you want it rather than blaming the hypnosis and seeking help.
OP is all part of the ploy.

They're trying to trick you into thinking you want it!

>>10232852
vanilla pleb

>>10229549
OP agrees with you...if you read the words on the thread as well as looking at the pictures. However, I have found that if you get the "right" image and combine it with a good audio commentary from a good/known hypnotist it can enhance what they are saying (if its a related topic). Once going under I tend to end up with my eyes closed, waking up with the usual count-down and feeling good of course.

>>10232862
>found the buttmad gayfag

At least try to make your lies a bit more feasible. Sissy "hypno" is a very new fad that some faggots only started vocally spamming in the last few years. Actual, non-gay hypnosis has been around forever. Just lately, sissies have hijacked the term, and shat on it, like they do with pretty much everything else. It's a very small but vocal community.

>>10232862
I know this is low quality bait, but the classic b&w film Svengali was made in the good old days when it was still a criminal offense to be gay.

>>10232878
you're a very small but vocal human being.

>>10232864
No the thread is not trying to trick people (since it is my thread I should know). A lot of people have this worry that they will "give control" to others....impossible. A response like yours shows you have not even tried it for yourself. If you have and you felt someone else "controlling you" then I suspect you have some deep desire for that can of situation. If you don't believe me, find another hypnotherapist, ask your doctor or anyone else who is a professional. Why would this thread try to trick anyone when clearly none of us are ever going to meet each other? My search is for some genuine imagery - don't like the stuff on the internet so much, but one or two images are useful. Thus far only one person, other than myself has posted anything, so my quest continues - and most of the images I've posted are rubbish as far as trying to be used with self-hypnosis. Any info from anyone appreciated :-)

>>10232900
If you want to have an actual discussion about hypnosis, surprisingly enough there is usually a thread up on /d/, while it's obviously /d/-themed also has discussions and people with actual hypnosis experience. Sometimes /soc/ threads also have people with hypnosis experience, usually in the kink/fetish threads, and sometimes even threads of their own.

>>10232918
Sounds good to me, I'll have a look. There are people on this thread with actual experience too :-) I thought coming here might also bring out some useful images.....not happening though.

>>10222374


hello,

Master trained and certified hypnotherapist here.
Multiple accredited degrees, of which, one is psychology. Grad school courses are taught on hypnosis. The AMA and APA both consider hypnosis a therapeutic psychotherapy. They double down by paying into insurance for a session. It's as real as your meds, with just about as much understanding about how the process works . .

So, lets talk about hypnosis. It's a state of 'trance' by which an individual is put into, or a practitioner elicits. It is any state by which the sympathetic nervous system is active, and the attention of the mind is fixated -as is the gaze pf the eyes. In fact, I was trained to hypnotize animals, along with people, as it has just as much to do with modelling behavior as it does with understanding psychological processes. You can hypnotize animals with breathing patterns.

Stage hypnosis has nothing to do with hypnosis. Therapeutic hypnosis has been studied by everyone from 17th century Ben Franklin, to Freud, to the CIA, NASA and the APA. Milton Erickson really set the standard, but, anyone can be trained to habitually go into physiological/perceptual states of biopsychosocial adjustment, from anything to decreasing blood pressure at will - i saved my own life doing this once, along with helping lots of others who were bleeding - to speeding up metabolism. You can change our physiological states!

being a psychological functionalist at heart, this means you can change everything to me, and habituate to any behavioral pattern if its fractionated in experience enough.

The

>>10232959
same guy,

and all this homosexual hynosis sissy training shit is just that, it's shit.

Half of hypnosis is participation, and if you dont want to see 'gay' stuff, dont participate. Alternativly, is it the hypnosis or the desire to watch shit in the video that brought you to originally watch what ever sissy nonses someone is peddling?

I.E. is the result as strong as the hidden intention.

participation in the process shows us such. period.

Stop worry about if 'this'(X) is 'that'(Y). Make a decision upon what you want to allow into your perception and stand by it. If you watch gay shit with some half-assed NLP phrases: "it's NOT blah blah blah", then so it. If youre worried someones shitty gif will make you gay, chances are, you're thinking about dicks in the back of your mind already.

If this bothers you, turn it off. That's ending participation.

>>10232959
Can't disagree with anything you say :-) Sooooo...........any imagery you suggest? You've probably seen Paul McKenna's stuff - some good things there (used his videos...few years ago...still have them, but quality is a bit low now). Aware of all the more "powerful/suggestive" icons - the eye, spiral, pendulums, never-ending-stairways..all designed to relax etc.

>>10222374
you obviously don't know anything about hypnosis. Some people are more suggestible than others, and can be made to do anything, including things they would never do or even imagine in real life, such as killing someone. As long as the persuasion is deep enough, and they are the right subjects. good sex fetish though, nothing to argue there

>>10233212
Don't be so antagonistic! Between the two of us it is clear who has the experience and who doesn't. You miss the point entirely....NO ONE CAN BE MADE TO DO SOMETHING THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO UNDER HYPNOSIS. Read the sentence a few times, try to understand what it is saying. If someone carries out something under hypnosis, they already have the desire to do so. People who are "more suggestible" as you say, don't need hypnosis to be persuaded to do something, they are already open to suggestion and can be persuaded. And if you really think hypnosis can be used to make a normal person kill someone then you really have been watching too many films and immersing yourself in none-reality....have you ever tried self-hypnosis (or are you too scared because of your false beliefs?)

A hypnotic *suggestion* is that: A suggestion. It can work or not. But if you're trying hypnosis, at least on the conscious level you want it to happen

Off course if you try several files from the same person you'll more easily accept what she says as true, including that what she says is what you want.

You can't do anything you don't want, but you can be suggested to want it.

Any sites with good hypnosis? I only know of p0rnhub and pornbimbo and tub3s4f4r1 for videos, and w4rpmym1nd for audio files.

>>10233340
Ahhh, finally a new source I can look into - some interesting audio content, thanks !

>>10233340
Followed some links that originated from your last suggestion and have downloaded the "Spiral of Reduction" webm. Will give that a go later. Stuff on pornhub and pornbimbo is not really that good though (nice way of saying it tends to be rubbish :-) )

Where to find good torrents with hypno files, audio or video?

>>10222374
When I watch these I get multiple sources of stimulation. To an extent I get off to the idea of fucking submissive women or shemales, but I can just as easily flip the role and see my self the submissive woman/ shemale. It really doesn't matter it all just depends on my mood. No these cannot brainwash you into being gay, most people who watch these already have some homosexual tendencies which is normal.

>>10222653
Why does it piss you off? Anger is an emotion and it often isn't logical. There are logical reasons why people like things including this kind of porn, which is what it is....PORN, which is often steeped in fantasy, allowing you to explore things that you wouldn't normally feel comfortable with under the judgement of other people in the real world.

>>10233199
well, one might think, depending upon your learning stlye you might be more inclined to a certain sensual modality, BUT, psychology has shown us that all modalities are basically accessible, and it's more about the process of investment, in the learning, that makes all the difference.

for example, I have three degrees, spent a lot of time in university. The only shit I recall as clear as day is the stuff that interested me, or the stuff i invested parts of every day in learning and recovering from learning, and learning not by my preferred modality, but by forcing myself to write out basically everything I know.

In effect, the best way to learn is to transcribe whatever info you receive through the senses into symbols on a page of paper or text format. This way, the synapses that store the information are being 'built', and not just 'made'.

You in effect make a passive and constant process, that of learning (in part how hypnosis works, as your unconscious is always 'learning' and associating), an active process, by constructing conceptual maps of the 'reality'.

As for material, stay away from videos unless you're looking to model behavioral patterns in the hypnotherapist. Books are where professionals spend their life's work. Youtube videos and DVD sets are nothing but merchandise.

You will not understand all that you see by learning from watching alone, you need to be instructed, and that is basically what a book is doing. Also, you dont miss much of the nuances in a book, unless you skip a page. where as, I can watch Erickson or Zeig videos with a noob and I have to stop the video because there are so many things not being said that are just as important as the things a practitioner thinks you should know in their forty minute video.

>>10233212


Hello,

This is actually more my area of expertise.

Here are two propositions:

1.people can not be hypnotized to do things they don't want to do.

2. Some people are so suggestible, they can be hypnotized to do things they don't want to do.

Then we ask Godel what his theorem is again:
"that no system can be complete and concise".


So, im forced to assume both as somewhat correct, or can be. And this is where i begin with an explanation:

People cant be hypnotized to do things they don't want to do. The mantra in hypnotherapy. it's also true, we have parts of the mind directly connected through grey matters of all sorts, to those perceptual parts that can be guided by suggestion and imagination alone. It's called, 'the critical faculty'.

When you NEED to make someone do something against their will, assuming its legal in some context, you cant just suggest the3y do thie thing you want.

NO. You must take them down the rabbit hole, and BYPASS the critic faculties. Notice I said 'BYPASS', and not 'BREAK'. To break the critical faculties you need lots of scopolamine (Hyoscine).

OR, you start with a suggestion that instead seeks to make what they perceive something other than what they would normally object to, but still do what you want them to do.

Goal: take shirt off

An example: secretaries working at the CIA would not undress when suggested, breaking any attempts at testing a 'hypnotic messenger', since their elicited higher-faculties will override the message, and thus, the mission.

The solution, Estabrooks knew that making the secretaries uncomfortably warm feeling while under trance, along with imagery of fire or heat (glowing) and a metaphorical tale of spontaneous combustion, he made the suggestion that their shirt is smoking and "can you smell the smoke". Which quickly made the CIA secretaries remove their shirts, almost every time.

Why? because no one with a critical faculty would keep a burning shirt on their body.

>>10235396
Source: you ass.

>>10233340
Spiral Seductions is a good site, with it's own list of free files that get updated regularily.

Soundgasm is a good site, but for one or another reason, it's hard to find the files on the front page itself, it has to be directly linked from another site, as far as I know. Don't take my word for it, I might be an idiot.

Here a few links:

https://soundgasm. net /u/justtolisten/F4MHFO-by-gutetuten2-Hypnolisten-to-my-voice-and-cum-for-meSloppy-wet-blowjobHand-jobDeep-throatFill-my-belly-with-your-cum

https://soundgasm. net /u/Trinity_X/Hypnosis-with-a-hands-free-orgasm

https://soundgasm. net /u/justtolisten/F4M-Let-me-Jerk-off-your-cock-using-nothing-but-the-sound-of-my-voice-By-gutentutenErotic-Hypnosis-Hands-Free-OrgasmHypno-HFO

https://soundgasm.net/u/ClairesNSWF/My-HFO-bi

I used to have a lot more, but one day I realized I watched to much porn, and read somewhere that hypnosis has the same effect on the brain as porn, so I deleted all my files and links. It's not hard to find good files thouhg, just don't expect to find them at once.

Now I believe that hypnosis is different than porn though, even erotic hypnosis. It has helped me a lot with self exploration and relaxation. As long as you don't sit 3 hours a day watching spirals on a screen, I think it's fine. There is a balance to everything.

And to add to the discussion of what erotic hypnosis is, I should mention that I read somewhere how a hypnotic trance activates a part of the brain that controls how open you are to new ideas and facts. This is why you respond to suggestions better. It doesn't completely eliminate restriction though, it only stretches boundaries. I don't think you can make anyone do anything in a trance without them wanting through. Whenever a hypnotist mentions something I'm not comfortable with, I get thrown out of trance emmediately.

Does anyone know how to get into contact with someone who practices erotic hypnosis? Would love to have a session with someone in person.

>>10235446
Forgot to mention, both pshychedelic substances and sexual arousal will determine how much you can stretch your suggestability. Which is why erotic hypnosis is so effective, and why some people todrugs before a hypnotic session.

>>10235445
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol4no1/html/v04i1a05p_0001.htm


http://ahrp.org/1963-hypnotist-george-estabrooks-admits-creating-multiple-personality-assassins/

https://www.amazon.com/Brainwash-Secret-History-Mind-Control-ebook/dp/B00ANI9EGA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1489352407&sr=8-2&keywords=brainwash

-Chapter two "Drugs", talks about scopolomine and suggestion.

-chapter five, "Building the manchurian candidate", talks about estabrooks, the CIA, operation 'gladio', 'CHATTER',Project MKUltra, Project ARTICHOKE, ect. . .


Also, saying 'source' as a rebuttal is not an argument, it's an attempt to dismiss info you for some reason feel uncomfortable about - enough to call or claim 'you ass'.

I think, I have shown that your game is inept, and your request for information is granted.

you can be made to not want to do things you otherwise would want to do

the those effects can linger long after the session is complete

I had a phych friend in college practice on my once, with the purpose of ending my peanut butter cravings (silly i know, but it used to be a real problem and it seemed reasonable for a hypnosis session with my buddy)

I didn't crave peanut butter for like 5 or 6 years after that. even still I don't crave it nearly as much as I used to.

>>10222374
I cant believe people exist that do this shit.
It's not a power. It's not a real phenomenon. It's suggestion. Placebo. You want to believe it happens.

But why? Why do you "want" to be "hypnotized"?

>>10235517
But in the end, you did want to end those craving, didn't you? You are saying you can be made to not want things you normally would, but you did want it. You did want to end those cravings. Hypnosis is a kind of placebo, as another anon here has said. No, not the same thing, but it is heavily related. If you didn't want to end those craving, it wouldn't have worked.

>>10235566
Oh I thought this was the /sci/ board.
My bad.
Carry on neanderthals, didn't mean to interrupt the discovery of fire.

last time im clicking on a image from /home/

>>10235566
To me it's a fetish.
I'm into submission and bdsm, so being controlled turns me on. I know that hypnosis is placebo, but placebo is very real. Hypnosis is a fantasy being made true, and that works for some, including me. For others, it can be sued a s a pacebo to have a better life. This can be to quit smoking, or start training. The only rule is that you have to want it, and you have to believe in it. Some hypnotists even put in some small sexual suggestions into everyday situations, to give people a small amount of sexual satisfaction when they do something completely unsexual.

The human mind is extremely comlplicated, and still somehow simple in a way I can't explain.

>>10235582
Used as placebo*

>>10235582
You left out the crucial detail: are you a guy or grill?

>>10228640
this basically, its good for porn because whoever decides to listen to them wants them to work.
i tried a bit of femdom hypno audio about a year ago, because i thought the idea was hot, i dont think it ever really worked but some were really comfy where id basically fall asleep fapping and wake up feeling warm and fuzzy.

>>10235343
Never understand that - I have a doctorate, remember all the stuff I did and could reproduce it if needed. Loved the area and still do a lot of technical stuff....and still love it, still learning all the time. Hypnosis is a side-hobby and I use it for all sorts of stuff (relaxing, sports, and of course sex/fantasy). My belief is that if you study something you enjoy you won't forget it in a hurry. On the other hand, if you study for any other reason (to get a good job, because there was nothing else on offer etc.) then you probably will. I'm pretty good at learning on my own - found a lot of lecturers and Professors not really that good at what they are supposed to be good at - having said that I have met a couple who are clearly brilliant. The lack was mainly time (I have little time to write my own hypnosis scripts) and source material....but a couple of the posts on here have given me more to work with. Thanks to all for the positive contributions and I hope you also get the successes I have already had. :-)

>>10235453
If you are doing drugs you've already moved away from hypnosis - which is an "increased" state of awareness. I don't believe it is possible to hypnotize anyone who is high or who is drunk as they would be unable to focus their attention adequately enough. That said, under chemical influences such people are probably highly susceptible to suggestion in any case, or the opposite (simply aggressive), so no point in going anywhere near hypnosis then.

>>10235517
Well yes.... You WANTED to give up, and he helped you do it, so he helped you do something you WANTED to do.

>>10235566
Until you've tried it you will always be in the dark. On the other hand, maybe you are happy with all you have in life already, you are fit, strong, able to sleep with no problems, don't get stressed, have no nasty habits you would really like to kick, have no desire to excel in certain areas (sports maybe)...then if you are happy with all things like that then, no, you do not need hypnosis. I started with sports, years ago - heard how some top athletes use it, and, yes it seemed to work (although I was never 100% sure at that time as I was enjoying all the work outs and, of course, getting high from them - another effect you might want to look at).

>>10222374
Professional here. You can. There's three ways: via friendship, religion (superstition), or psychological abuse.

>>10222489
Whether they qualify or not depends entirely on how we're defining them. Most of them rely on hypnosis as understood in neuroscience, yes.

>>10222756
Yeah, lucid dreams are great.

>>10222855
>all that has haplened is me listening to their half-retarded voices for half an hour

What did you do in order to go into hypnosis?

>>10223916
>In the "wrong" frame of mind though you will be wasting your time and money (if you buy anything)

Only if their materials don't come with an explanation of what to do.

>>10224777
>I don't think you could make someone commit murder or something crazy.

Check out Estabrooks and MK ULTRA. Apparently they'd succeeded in that.

>>10225020
Kinda. The way to making harmful suggestions work is rather simple, though it does require hooking into pre-existing complexes.

>>10228640
>Even he admits everything in that show is made up garbage.

Except not. Read his books, maybe, try his methods, and see for yourself.

I can assure you that a large part of what he does is real.

>>10229495
>It does exist, and in fact has a scientific name: The Placebo Effect.

I'd put it in reverse. The Placebo Effect is a subset of hypnosis - the suggestion is delivered in context and the meaning of the interaction.

>>10232900
I'd argue it's less desire, and more "emotional drive". Any emotion can be used to manipulate a person, which is why therapy is such a great way of preventing manipulation.

>>10235396

Interesting.

>>10235396
Why is it always the CIA first you can be more than just them

>hypno thread

>only gay spirally shit and countless non-webm replies

This thread sucks balls.

>>10238472
What would you like to see?

I don't do images, but I write scripts for "recreational" purposes on commission.

>>10235591
I don't think you would like the answer. I mean, where do you think you are?

>>10236103
Well, I get your standpont, but I have to disagree, Of course, if I took 300ug of acid before listening to hypnosis, I would be way too blasted to realize what was going on. But I'm talking about average or lower doses. I ate a space brownie the other day and listened some. It helped me relax, it helped me visualize, and it helped me stay on track until I drifted into my own fantasy. It was amazing.

There is no rule on how to do it. If drugs is the only way you can reach that place, go for it. I don't have to, but it was a fun experiment.

I don't really understand what you mean by "moving away from hypnosis". To me at least, those kind of drugs only make my current emotions more powerfull. How I choose to spend that increased emotion is up to me.

Also, if you get agressive when taking a substance, I don't know why you would take it again, or while listening to hypnosis.

>>10239898
Well, "practicing what I preach", I have tried hypnosis whilst under the influence of alcohol.....thought also that it might give a different experience, but it was a waste of time. Don't do drugs, so can't comment on that, but do think it would be the same and that really hypnosis would play no part in what you experience. Best 3 hypnotists for me are Paul McKenna, Glen Harold and Mark Bowden.

>>10240069
Alcohol is different.
While psyhoactive drugs, such as weed or acid contains chemicals that interract with dopamine and serotonin reseptors, alcohol is literally a toxin that halt parts of the brains process. So yeah, I probably should have mentioned this, but unless you take a single glass of wine to relax, alcohol is not going to make it better, quite the opposite really.

I've done acid and weed both fully conscious and under a trance. It does make the experience much more vivid, at least for me. Not trying to be a smart ass, but there is definately a noticeable difference. Since you haven't really tried anything else than alcohol, I understand why you don't think it plays no part in the experience, but these drugs are very different than alcohol. It doesn't mean it will help everyone. The first time I tried to listen to hypnosis while tripping, my mind went into full resist mode when I started slipping. You have to learn that process all over again.

But psychedelic drugs is not for everyone, so I wouldn't recommend buying some just for hypnosis. Remember that all this is just my experience with it. Psychedelic drugs is different for everyone.

>>10235343
any books you recommend?

>>10240322
Don't intend to try drugs, never felt the need. Have had excellent experiences without them - now at the stage of tailoring material gleaned from wherever as, unfortunately, one-to-one sessions with a "professional" are just too expensive! I thought this thread was going to be a dead end, but some links will be good for basic source material - so thanks again to those who've given positive input (including yourself of course). Got to go to Italy for a week, and will not have access to this site, and I doubt the thread will survive, so "arrivederci" as I believe they say in Rome. Will check the archive on my return, so any more useful links will be pursued.

>>10240866
Drugs is absolutely not necessary. I didn't intend to pressure you, it is just my experience with it. The reason I'm not high most of the time is the fact that the world is an adventure in its own if you just look at the right places. Drugs are simply interesting and fun to experiment with.

Have a nice trip to Italy man.

>>10222374
I'm new to this hypnosis stuff... How is it supposed to work and also what does it even do? Do i just stare at the spiral? Even if I do, what happens?

I entered this thread anticipating a cavalcade of inexpert opinions to lead to a whole lot of nowhere.

I haven't been disappointed...but it would have been fun to hear more dirty stories.

I always really want to try this stuff but I never seem to ever be put under with hands free videos and the like. I Do my best to follow the instructions to a T but it never seems to work. Is there a way I can make myself more susceptible to hypnosis?

>>10243101
Honestly, stop trying to hfo. I don't mean to stop listening to the files, but don't go into the sessions expecting to orgasm. Just let go and don't stress or worry about cumming. Just let go and listen without a care in the world.

>>10232959
>>10232984
ur gay

>>10244410


you wish,

but wish denied.

>>10242687

I'll bite; as a hypnotist, what kind of thing would you like to hear?

>>10240400


yes,

With a glance over my shoulder, I see a few of favorites:

https://www.amazon.com/Hypnosis-comprehensive-guide-Tad-James-ebook/dp/B005GDZH7M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489491492&sr=8-1&keywords=hypnosis+james

https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Clinical-Hypnosis-Steven-Lynn/dp/1433805685/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489491549&sr=8-1&keywords=handbook+of+clinical+hypnotherapy


https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Contemporary-Clinical-Hypnosis-Practice/dp/1119057272/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1489491549&sr=8-3&keywords=handbook+of+clinical+hypnotherapy

Hypnosis: by Elman. The best book on the Elamn approach, obviously.

'collected works of Milton H. Erickson', or I like, 'Creative choice in hypnosis', for good Ericksonian attitude modelling/exploration.

>>10238207


im not sure how to interpret this statement.

The CIA began it's invovlment with Hypnosis follwing mock soviet trials, in which, captives willingly allowed their executioners to kill them.

Then, following the capture of Korean war vets, and their philosophical siding with the enemy upon capture, the pentigon got worried the soviets had some new brain washing technology.

They assumed it was drugs or some form of perverse psychology. So, naturally, they started looking at all the most taboo or 'mysterious' means they could find to figure out how the soviets where mind bending people.

In the end, the pushed LSD on hippies, Hippies on native peoples looking for mushrooms, Agents out 12 story windows, and all together created the fear of 'the Manchurian candidate' out of a fear of communism.

>>10239898
>>10240322


If I can chime in,

Learning is state dependent.

If you drink alcohol or smoke pot, you will have the same bodily reactions of digestive discomfort or possible anxiety, that those substances induce on the body, while the body is trying to relax into a state of 'not being aware of its parts - to be fully aware of itself'.

That is hard to achieve with mind alreteing substances, that can cause physiological senatons that might be novel.

That said, if you habituate to feeling these states, and develop a comfort in them, then it wont be any different then doing something in your most common state(s); maybe even better, as these substances are often abused for their therapeutic effect. I say abused, as, you should not be habituating to these [dependent learning] states.

That all being said, when you learn, which is passive and associative - and the basis of hypnosis, as in trance and following directions as much as the feeling of trance, is a skill or knowledge - your ability to recall the learning might be disrupted if learned in a different state than the state your in attempting remember in.


For instance, it's impossible to hypnotize someone blackout drunk. Why? there brain is not 'making' new memories.

it might be harder to hypnotize someone whose really stoned. why? Their attention span will be fractionated between paying attention and the novel state of 'high'.

But ultimately, if I anchor a client/patient/mark in a drunken state, when I go to elicit that anchor in a sober state, theoretically - according to state dependent learning theory - it wil not be as strong a response, as it should not be as strong a stimulation.

>>10243692
Tried to. But kept running into too many gay shit when listening like sissy talk and gay shit.

Don't want to listen to that shit. Straight hetro pls.

>>10222374
You need Jesus.

Fuck me.
I'm tripping balls here.

Are you guys legitimately trying to hypnotize eachother or not ?

>>10244910
Huh? It's really easy to avoid sissy shit. Listen to Nikki Fatale, shelle rivers, Charlotte grey, kinkyshibby, Joanne, dark Freya. I could go on but like 95% of their sessions are hetero. Check the thread on /t/ for the magnet and give them a whirl. Shibby is on Reddit/soundgasm and I've had a lot of luck with her hfo files and they're all free with zero sissy stuff (although one in the works). I don't go in for it either and I have no problem avoiding it.

>>10244671
You might be right, I'm not educated in this matter.

I'm just sharing what I have learned by myself through trial and error. I should mention that I tried weed much later than I started to listen to erotic hypnosis. And I didn't try to listen while high before way later, as late as about 1 year ago. I learned how to get under trance by itself, and I got used to being high by itself. And then I combined it.

I also had my first handsfree orgasm without any drugs involved. But being high made it much easier, since the detailed experience would be much more vivid. I still listen to hypnosis sober, and I still have handsfree orgasms sober, easily.

I understand that being constantly high while listening to hypnosis might be bad, but being high all the time is bad anyway. I don't get high often, only once a month to once a year. I listen to erotic hypnosis much more than that.

I can't say anything about acid and hypnosis though, since I've never got it working.

Anyone here been able to orgasm through hypnosis? I can orgasm through PC muscle clenching, but I haven't managed to do it while being completely relaxed. I.C.U. got me very close, but then it faded again.

>>10222415
I like the colors, but I don't really get what i'm seeing :\