*scratch scratch *fails*

>>62455530
Still running off my drives from 2008, what the fuck are you talking about memelord?

>>62455530
Yeah maybe if it's a Seagate external.

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>>62455530
*shatters violently*

SSD: silence and then it

FAILS

>>62456519
This isn't the early 2000s.

Good SSDs these days come with 10-year warranties, and are still usable far past when their S.M.A.R.T. wear indicator runs out.

>>62455530
Just use RAID, monthly/weekly offsite backup, and cloud delta backup.

>>62456466
This. In fact I've been reusing drives out of my older or project computers since 2008 and they still work perfectly fine. How the fuck do you scratch you hdd?

>>62455530
>scratch scratch
>freeze frame
>you're probably wondering why i didn't back up my data...

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>>62455530
*harddrive scratch*
Yep that's me, you might be wondering how I got here.

>>62456531
had a lady come in the shop a few days ago with a dead SSD, probably about 4-5 years old.

just died suddenly. completely inaccessible.

I mean, mechanical drives can suddenly kick the bucket but they usually die more gradually than SSDs and can have the data saved with ddrescue, but really you should always have redundant copies either way.

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Tbh what's the point of HDDs anymore that you can get cheap "cloud storage" for a couple bucks?
You're going to be backing up the data if you had a HDD anyway, since you can't afford to lose it.

The way I see it, just use and SSD for data you actually intend to operate on in RAM, and upload the rest to a cloud desu.

>>62456603
Mom came into my room and started kicking my PC around in a histrionic rage, something about me being a useless leech or something.
The HDD is the only thing that failed.
I think she had PMS

>>62456873
10TB of cloud storage runs $1200/year.

It's not cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

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>>62456516
*CRECK*

>>62456873
all what you wrote is retarded

>>62456994
>PTSD INTENSIFIES

>>62456873
>tfw 1 Mbit/s upload

Yeah cloud storage isn't viable for me. Still waiting for fucking FTTH.

i have an old 20g noisy af drive and it still works like a charm

What's a reliable home based data storage solution?

Should I buy a blu ray drive and a huge stack of disks?

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>>62455530

>>62457148
lol no, disks are trash
You need 3 copy of everything you hold dear on hdds

>>62456873
You have a terrible mother.

>>62457148
There are various home NAS solutions out there.

The most extensible and flexible will always be to make your own dedicated server, e.g. with FreeNAS. It's a lot of work to learn, setup, and debug though.

There's also easy pre-built solutions like Synology and QNAP, but sometimes they do shady shit (e.g. Synology still selling Intel Atom chips that have a fatal design flaw causing degradation after a certain amount of use).

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>>62456873
>le cloud meme
>storing personal data on somebody else's computer
I wonder who's behind this post.

>computer is making a hissing sound
>open up computer, sound is coming from HDD
>open up HDD, pet the platters for a few minutes and put some food in its shell
>hdd resumes purring
>go back to watching midget porn
>computer crashes
wtf /g???

>>62457248
Just encrypt it lmao

My experience with magnetic hard drives has been very different. For one, I've never had one fail on me. I still have a WD 2GB drive in my very first computer from 1997 chugging along (although I do have my suspicions that it's slowly failing on me). All the other drives are still very much fine as well, even (surprisingly) the laptop and netbook ones. I've recently fallen for the SSD meme and now have a 120GB Kingston V300 as my boot drive and my 1TB WD Blue mounted at /home.
And before you ask, I've never made a single redundant backup in my life.

Kthx for reeding mai blog guise, pls updiddle

>>62457275
>juts encript it lmao
>implying there are no backdoors in encryption software
>implying they're not just another one of goy's proprietary botnets
Lmaoing@urlyfe

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CLICK CLICK

*whirrr*
*click*

>>62456873
>I think she had PMS
No,you're just a useless leech.

>>62457443
*beeeeeeeeep*

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>>62457471

>>62456516
what happens if you cover the hole?

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*VRRRRwooshhhh* *VRRRRwooshhhh*

>>62457571
something to do with air preasure i think??

>>62457584
I let my computer's BIOS control my fans, two front fans and one on top. Right before Windows has loaded I always hear a slight "whoosh", I'm not sure what causes that, is it all the fans spnning down from 100% to whatever%?

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>stops working

>>62456880
u wot mate? You could buy like 100+TB of cloud storage for that cost. I have 4TB myself and I pay $60 a month for it.

>>62457616
Most modern bios firmware make fans spin up to 80% to blow away dust and to make sure fans are turning. Afterwards they spin down to their normal operating mode.

Maybe its that.

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>>62457628
SATA ssd

You people make me sick

>>62457693
>laptop

>>62457681
>You could buy like 100+TB of cloud storage for that cost.
Tell me where.

> I have 4TB myself and I pay $60 a month for it
That's $720/year.

>>62457628
>samsung ssd
>best-in-class NAND on account of owning one of the last 4 leading-edge fabs in the world
>ridiculously long warranties and a return rate that rivals Intel's: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/962-7/ssd.html
>"stops working"

ayylmao

>>62457693
>currently zero improvement over SATA SSD outside of niche tasks and large sequential operations
>costs 30% extra
>but der nummers are bigger i gots have der bigger nummers xDDD

NVMe is the biggest babby's first desktop meme ever.

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>>62457693
Non-enterprise ssd

You people make me sick

>>62457912
lol stay mad poorfag, its not just R/W speeds its latencies too (do you know what that means?)
sata was designed with HDD latencies in mind

>>62457912
The funny part is if real-world applications need more sequential I/O they just use SATA3 in RAID

>inb4notrim
https://serverfault.com/questions/776564/what-is-the-current-state-2016-of-ssds-in-raid

>>62458022
>do you know what that means?

Do you? What do you do where it makes a perceptible difference in comparison to a SATA SSD? Keyword being perceptible, not measurable. Try being honest.

>>62456792
lel

>>62456824
This may be a rare case.
I've feared SSDs because of their rumoured failings, etc.
But I've been using a Samsung one for about 3-4 years - its been through countless OS installations (windows AND Gnu/Linux), encryptions, etc and it works like a charm.

>>62457912
>every ssd is running near complete saturation of sata cable
>Not wanting technology to advance past legacy limitations.

Even consumer grade m.2 ssd's are nearing the saturation of 4x 3.0 pcie bandwidth. This is one of the reasons pcie 4.0 spec has been put in the fast track.

>>62458022
Thank you.

>>62458032
>Not understanding how different workloads affect cost-effective solutions.
Sata maxes out at 600MB/s yet if you somehow dont need to use the full 4GB/s pcie based ssd's can offer then striping sata ssd's could be more cost effective. (Yet I dont see how that is futureproofing or cost effective unless you're using some kind of hdd backup incase of faillure.)

TLDR;
>I use HDD's for streaming movies, Clearly they are the best kind of ssd's

>>62457571
The drive may melt?

>>62458068
copying tons of small files, which is why people use nvme for scratch disks

>>62458022
The latency improvements are more due to better NAND in later models, they have little to do with SATA vs PCIe/NVMe.

>>62458204
I wasn't advocating the use of HDDs in RAID over SSDs, just that actual enterprise workloads use enterprise SATA3 SSDs in RAID to scale, not M.2.

M.2 is more of a stop-gap small-form-factor consumer format that became popular because laptops needed a smaller form factor than 2.5" as they got thinner, and most laptop users only want one drive.

The difference is just where the controller lies. With M.2, they multiplex on the drive and pack the NAND chips densely. With RAID, they let the RAID controller take care of the multiplexing.

>>62457616
>2017
>using BIOS not uEFI

*hard drive scratch*
*freeze frame*
Yep, that's my workstation. I bet you're wondering how it got into this situation.

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>>62458603
With laptops you can also software RAID M.2 drives if they have multiple bays, e.g. with
http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Precision-7720-Spec-Sheet.pdf

Although you'll be limited by DMI 3.0 (~4GB/s) if you're transferring to RAM.