/homeserver/

Bumping to ask a question how do you use 24 drives when server motherboards only have much less than 24 ports??

File: DSCN1196.jpg (2MB, 3456x4608px)

2MB, 3456x4608px

>>62451016
>heavy and loud

seriously, did you expect anything else?

yeah, ssds for ZIL can help a lot, I think pci-e ones used to be preferred, but I'm out of date.

Not feeling up to hauling stuff out today, so I'll fit the new network card in dalian tomorrow. Just sitting playing with the cluster thinking of things to add - you've got me thinking moving an ssd from my desktop for the clusters docker volumes might be cool.

>>62451420
sas

>>62451499
What about it?

>>62451642
you can get sas cards that can run a shitload of drives.

>>62451431
Would you mind listing all the hardware components in this picture and their purpose? I'm a learning newb

>>62451016
I just switch out the supermicro fanrow for some noctua fans every time I need a server in the house. Cool and quiet.

>>62451016
> I see that you can increase performance by using an SSD for ZIL or L2ARC
You want to use fucking ZFS for anything related to performance?

May I suggest you don't do crazy things like that and instead use Ceph on XFS or something else that actually works?

File: 20170304_104102.jpg (217KB, 1000x562px) Image search: [Google]

217KB, 1000x562px

probably going to buy a rack soon and a rack mountable usp, just havent decided in what yet

>>62451675
sure, give me a bit and I'll knock something up in PS

What filesystem's and other things (raid, lvm, etc) are you guys using on your servers? I have a 5tb drive and 2 1tb drives in lvm to create a 7tb xfs volume but I want something better.

>>62451916
If you're doing RAID, one of your best options is mdadm with btrfs or xfs on top, optionally lvm in between.

If you have more storage or want a cluster, go with ceph on xfs or bluestore (the latter isn't 100% stable yet, won't be wrong to just migrate to it later drive-by-drive if you want to play it safe).

>>62451710
another anon here considering a beefier self-build NAS in the near future, presumably ZFS-based.

If my main concern is the reliability of the storage (including the simplicity of generating and sending out encrypted serialized snapshot deltas), would throwing some SSDs at L2ARC or even ZIL be completely wasted in a mostly non-intensive environment?

E.g., do NFS writes from clients finish faster if the server can sync/flush via SSD instead of disc writes?

File: stuff.jpg (2MB, 4500x2000px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4500x2000px

>>62451675

>>62452278
> If my main concern is the reliability of the storage (including the simplicity of generating and sending out encrypted serialized snapshot deltas)
Yea, that doesn't theoretically really *need* a SSD regardless if you're doing it with ceph, lvm, brtrfs, zfs or something else.

> do NFS writes from clients finish faster if the server can sync/flush via SSD instead of disc writes?
Again, I imagine that theoretically, you shouldn't *need* such a thing.

Then again, ZFS performance is an arsepain to estimate in practice. It's typically okay until for one or another of a hundred possible reasons, it stops being okay. Maybe you'll need the SSD after all. But I figure you should purchase that later if you suspect you need it.

>>62452327
Nice, thanks anon.

>>62452634
no worries

I just have shitty 2009 late 2009 server

Fwiw Ive kept a dell r710 in my garage with no issues for 3-4 years now. It's over 100 inthere some days in the summer and gets down to around 45 in the winter (hvac is in garage so it doesn't freeze in there).

File: 20170827_190324_HDR.jpg (3MB, 3264x1836px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 3264x1836px

Posting my server. Guarantee it's baby shit compared to whatever it is you /g/us are running.
>Pentium G4360
>2x2GB ddr3
>Samsung 250GB SSD for boot
>2x1TB WD blue drives (executable files, pictures backup, music)
>2x2TB HDDs. Seagate and a used HGST with more than 70,000 hours (better drive health than the Seagate, used for Anime + TV series)
>2x4TB Toshiba X300 HDDs (movies)

All my stuff is backed up using the fire and forget Windows 7 backup utility.

File: 1266126008249.jpg (68KB, 305x196px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 305x196px

>>62452327
>Let me use photoshop to reveal that everything is a fucking Athlon 2 or raspberry Pi
>Oh yeah, don't forget the epic anime pictures!

File: image_1.jpg (10KB, 184x184px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 184x184px

>>62453670
>Mfw I have every model of the rpi except for the $5, one
>Mfw I always had these cool ideas I wanted to do with them networking wise, but always found how limited they were
>Mfw they all have cases and everything, yet haven't been even looked at in years.

Fug

File: 1409018717671.jpg (4MB, 4800x6912px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 4800x6912px

>>62453670
are you triggered?

>>62453670
seriously, if its not worth at least $10k you should not post it, I thought this was just common sense.

>14 year old orders server rack equipment off ebay with no understand of what to do with it or how it works
>WOW ITS HEAVY
>WOW ITS LOUD
No shit you fucking tit, those things are designed to be mounted into $3000 rack cabinets and locked into separate climate-controlled rooms because of how fucking loud they are.

>>62453880
>>62452327
What is the point of having all this shit?
It's not powerful enough to be used for business or enterprise work, and its so excessive that all you could possibly be doing with it is wasting power.

>>62453942
>raspberry pi
>excessive power

pure /g/ autism at its finest

>>62453966
>10xRpi's
>Not excessive

What ISP are you using

File: Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue (2).jpg (106KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 1024x683px

>>62454000
>20W
>excessive power

>>62451016
>I'm hoping putting it in a cabinet will reduce the noise some
It will reduce noise a bit, but at the cost of seriously reducing cooling. That risks killing your rig.

>or perhaps there's a way to dynamically control the fan speed based on the temperature.
Unlikely. See, rackmount servers are not designed to give a fuck about noise. They are designed to cool like a boss and noise doesn't matter at all. I doubt the fans even have that capability.

If you want to run this thing, you want to put it in a datacenter. That's what they are for.

File: servers.jpg (1MB, 2179x1080px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2179x1080px

Needs to be condensed down a bit more but it's still coming along.

AP Playground next.

File: IMG_20170915_194707_1.jpg (3MB, 4048x3036px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 4048x3036px

>>62454287
The five white ones are managed by the M300. The multicolour antenna one is a Pineapple and the Asus one is running Advanced Tomato.

>>62451016
>Second, it's LOUD
They sell super quiet fans for it. You also will want to buy the super quiet PSUs like I told you before.

>a cabinet will reduce the noise some
It wont

>Would it make sense to buy 2 small SSD's specifically for them?
as I told you before make sure you buy enterprise class SSDs

>>62451420
SAS expanders

>>62453916
people cry when you have nice things. just seeing bixnood.net triggers autists here.

>>62454109
>I doubt the fans even have that capability.
They do

>See, rackmount servers are not designed to give a fuck about noise.
You can make them quiet. I have a 4U and 2U supermicro box at home. they're not obnoxiously loud.

>>62454287
>not just having one computer with 32 gigs of ram running esxi to do all of that

>>62454069
he never said excessive power
he just said the whole setup is excessive
also rpis under load will easily use 5 watts each, so no idea how you got the idea that 10 of them only use 20 watts.

>>62454644
I have one with 48GB, and two more with 32GB each, RAM is not an issue.

>>62453916
>if its not worth at least $10k you should not post it
lol, what a loser!

>>62452327
You make cute diagrams

r8/h8 my setup /g/:
>Xeon E3-1225 v2, 4C/4T
>16GB DDR3 RAM
>120 GB SSD
>2x 500GB IDE HDDs

Runs ESXi with PfSense and Ubuntu Server. PfSense runs Squid, Squidguard, Unbound, NTop, ClamAV, Pfblocker, and OpenVPN.
Ubuntu runs Apache with GitLab and personal website, Shadowsocks, and SSH.

I was thinking about running LDAP (no clue how) and Owncloud/Nextcloud on the Ubuntu server as well, thoughts?

What do you all even do with your home servers? I honestly can't think of what I would use it for other than download anime, and I could just use a pi for that.

>>62454753
Hmmm, I was thinking of doing something similar to my old PC that I cannabalized. I just need to decide whether I want to invest in a better processor and more space.

Is this all you use your server for? Website and Git repo? Wont ISP know who you are even if you use shadowsocks as proxy? SCP is slow as fug for file transfer, might as well just bite the bullet and use nextcloud.

File: home server.png (468KB, 819x993px) Image search: [Google]

468KB, 819x993px

>>62453639

If it works for you, that is what is important.

I have an all in one FreeBSD server with tons of disks and nics with ZFS and many bhyve machines performing various jobs. One of those machines is an OpenBSD firewall.

It works really well but the setup is extremely complex specially with bridges and vlans.

I've recently ordered a pcengines APU to use a dedicated OpenBSD router and I plan to go back to pure jails.

>>62454404
>They sell super quiet fans for it.
Yes I'm going to replace them with noctua. I'll need to get some use of fans for 'something' though.

>make sure you buy enterprise class SSD
I was more asking if an SSD would be needed at all, but >>62451431 confirmed it.

>>62454109
>If you want to run this thing, you want to put it in a datacenter.
I've seen 2 anons here on /g/ with the same SuperMicro unit I have and they've had it for years with no problems(inside a cabinet at that). Plus, I don't think having it in a cabinet with mesh panels would reduce the cooling by much.

>>62455590
Mine is primarily going to act as my backups/plex. When I have all my HDD's purchased(60TB, for mirror vdev), it'll be used as my primary storage. As I learn more about it I'll probably do more things with it.

>>62453916
So far I've spent around $1k on this server. Once I'm done buying my HDDs/cabinet, it'll probably only end up being $2k, about as much as a high-end gaming rig.

I'm still looking for a nice 30'' depth+ server cabinet that supports >500lbs under $300 though. Seems really tacky just leaving it exposed on a desk.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/atom/atom-c3000-family-brief.html

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/atom/c-series/c3958.html

https://ark.intel.com/products/97927/Intel-Atom-Processor-C3958-16M-Cache-up-to-2_0-GHz

Hey /g/, would this be good for a home server?

>>62453929
>>14 year old orders server rack equipment
Don't think a 14 year old would have the funds to do what I'm doing. Even if they did, I'd imagine teen would be more obsessed about buying $1000 graphics card to run their vidya games rather than dropping that money on some server. Cute insult though.

>with no understand of what to do with it
I know exactly what I want to do with it.
That's why I bought it.

>or how it works
I've got a general idea. Only way to get a better understanding is actually buying it. I possibly could've started out with some ghetto spare parts rig, but I've really no patience for that. I need my proper backup asap.

>WOW ITS HEAVY
They are just first reactions anon. Why are you this upset

>those things
Yes, thing(s). I only have 1 4U unit, so it shouldn't need a $3k cabinet nor a perma A/C'd room. The only thing about my build that remotely concerns me right now is how much power this consumes, which I'll measure later.

Why do you autists name server equipment after anime girls?

>>62456524
Its cute. How come you don't?

>>62456545
It's not an anime girl, it's a piece of server equipment and should be treated as such. Use numbers or something. Imagine in a workplace talking about your home server with some stupid ass anime girl name - the autism would be RADIATING from your grinning faces

>>62456565
Imagine being this insecure good lord.

File: VUlap.png (201KB, 1332x604px) Image search: [Google]

201KB, 1332x604px

>>62451016
hey so did i
did i do go g

>>62456624
You should use that thing as a desktop just to spite us. Make sure it's sideways and crooked and post the shit out of it in battlestation threads.

At least for a few days.

File: maxresdefault.jpg (64KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 1280x720px

>>62456565
>Imagine in a workplace talking about your home server with some stupid ass anime girl name
I think it'd be pretty sweet, and would probably like to work for said workplace.

>Tewi's drunk anon, go check on her
>boring as fuck employee:who's tewi? you mean ARMJ523-151#BETA-C?
>Yes, Tewi.

>Not naming your server Lain

GTFO FAGGOTS, you're not kino, avantgarde and cyberpunk

File: 1504914990736.jpg (908KB, 2448x3264px) Image search: [Google]

908KB, 2448x3264px

>>62456654
what lol

Just rent a 1/4 closet at a colo you moron.

>>62451431
look at all that useless shit, people like you make no sense, you can condense most of that shit into a single machine, and your shitty rpis into vms

File: 1498519496876.jpg (39KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 500x500px

>>62456752
>renting
>will never pay itself off
Or I can just buy my shit, own it, and never worry about making another payment again.

>>62456679
Lain is overused.
Touhou has been deprecated by Kemono Friends.
I'll name my storage/backup server Arai-san, since my server is going start off being clumsy and full of mistakes for the better part of a year or so.

>>62452327
You wouldn't happen to be sys admin bro would you?

>>62451016
I fucking told you, ignorant hoarding man-child, but you wouldn't listen. Now deal with your ignorance

>>62451431
>>62451016
I want something like whats in ops pic.
Is there any way to build this without it being loud as fuck? Im looking at a couple of norco cases if thats relevant.

>>62452327
Dude I never thougt I would say that, but consuming that much power for such a little server makes you the king, if not the emperor of faggots.

>>62451016
>Second, it's LOUD.
Tower servers tend to be more quiet, like Dell's T-series. I have one.

>>62456108
It's currently just that, but I plan on expanding. Also, I don't use Shadowsocks to get away from my ISP, I use it on my phone/laptop when I'm on an unsafe network and need to proxy away.

File: 1500371816670.gif (273KB, 200x200px) Image search: [Google]

273KB, 200x200px

>>62454287
>Servers placed directly on a fluffy carpet.
How quickly do the servers get filled with dust bunnies? I prefer textile free flooring and placing the servers at least 10 cm off the floor.

>>62458499
There would be more ideal configurations however all the carpet sitters are rarely on. Most of these boxes shutdown to be woken via wake on lan.

I agree they should be up off the ground and will do so once I get the house and server closet prepared.

>>62456804
indeed

>>62456565
>Imagine in a workplace talking about your home server
OK, please tell me what your workplace is like where this is even remotely a plausible topic.

File: 20170420110736_glitch.jpg (245KB, 546x896px) Image search: [Google]

245KB, 546x896px

Been thinking about doing home server stuff as a hobby but don't know what I'd do with one. Probably just vidya.

File: 23edsxf442.jpg (179KB, 1600x656px) Image search: [Google]

179KB, 1600x656px

>>62451016
>Second, it's LOUD.
You can adjust to it, anon. For that reason, noise ordinances often tolerate louder levels of *constant* noise than intermittent noise because the latter is much more disruptive. If it's constant, you're good. I sleep in a smol cyberpunk apartment with my microwave fan on at all times to help mask the noise from animals in the hallway at 3 AM.

Also, general question: how do you do encryption on a NAS like a Drobo?

File: glug.png (2MB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1280x720px

>>62453639
That is actualy a really nice home server.

>>62458596
This workplace looks extremely comfy

>>62454287
>DE on server
>win7 as NAS OS
May I ask why?

>>62458593
>Probably just vidya.
Any tips or tuts to read up on building a server for vidya? I would love to play stellaris on my old ass laptop when I'm not at home.

>>62453880
not at all, i find these pictures hilarious

>>62459515
You might want to peruse the Rooms section of the Cyberpunk archive:
ftp://guest:[email protected]:21212/Cyberpunk/Rooms/

>>62452327
>freenas
>less than 8GB of RAM, much less than i3
>VM host
>J1900
Did you set up your servers in a way to experience excruciating lag first-hand?

>>62460884
i bet you think you need an i7 and 32GB for 'web development'

>>62460884
im running freenas with 2gb ram because im a madman

>>62456624
Those SSDs alone cost more than what you paid.

>>62456624
>$100

its trash, get a fucking job

>>62454644
People still use ESXI?

>>62461602
neck yourself hyper-v fag

>>62461602
Why not?

>>62461696
non-free

My Windows server 2012 is running a few shares for movies and backups but i also have a Ubuntu server but no idea what i want to run on it.

Any ideas?

>>62461792
>Any ideas?
buy a helium tank and kill yourself for using shitdows 'server'

>>62461819
>Being this buttmad over what someone is running

I also run Windows 10 on my PC

Ow and the server is called Treblinka and the PC Auschwitz.

>>62461703
I'm sure you are a FOSS fag

>>62456624
Terrible. G6 is the lowest you should even consider, and since they up to I think 10 by now 7's and 8's should be more achievable.

Slightly unrelated, but what type of cloud/file hosting should I be looking for if I want to mount it natively as a network drive on Linux? FTP maybe?

>>62462101
>what type of cloud/file hosting should I be looking for

You should never be looking for cloud hosting

>not buying a Mac mini and using macOS Server

>>62461703
lmao freetardness at its best

how acceptable is it to run like esxi and have a VM manage storage underneath for like a NAS?

>>62462367
esxi is never acceptable

>>62462119

I agree, but I'll be encrypting the data before uploading. In terms of safety to effort ratio, it's the easiest option in my case.

>>62462367
you theoretically can do it if you passthrough a HBA
I got it working /w Proxmox and FreeNAS but ran into some issues, couldn't trust it with important data so got a standalone box

>>62462577
yea that's what I'm thinking about doing

>>62451016
What PSU did you get? The stock case fans are actually not loud at all when adjusted. The main culprit is the PSU.

Look up the PWS-920P-SQ (pricier but super quiet.) or the PWS-920P-1R (super cheap). Some people also just mod it for an ATX PSU.

>>62461703
I would use Xenserver if it didn't suck with pfSense

>>62463054
neck yourself citrix fag

>>62463070
What do you want me to use? Hyper-V?

>>62463079
KVM/QEMU you reatrded faggot piece of shit

>>62456624
With warranty and free shipping? Not bad.

Though I did just throw out two of these with 64gb ram and 8x 300gb drives.

For anyone else looking for HP gear, the G6s should be the oldest thing you're looking at, with the exception of the SE316 / SE326.

What do you use a home server for?

>>62463157
File storage, media streaming, and personal VPN.

>>62452327
>>62453786
Use chink clones instead, much much cheaper and faster.

>>62463099
How do you hold all that edge?

File: becametheedge.jpg (118KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 600x600px

>>62463548

>>62462378
Care to elaborate?

>>62451016
>homeserver

Home servers are a meme. Just buy yourself a decent workstation and you don't need a bunch of crap systems to accomplish the same thing, except slower, while wasting more electricity.

Any suggestions for a half depth rackmount case with a fuckton of 3.5" bays? I have 12 drives I want to put in one.

>>62464449
Backups, Hosting of services that stay up even when you mess around with your T420 laptop and Z420 workstation. Having a home server is nice. Instead of renting servers when I want to host stuff for friends, I can just add a service to my home server.

>>62465805
>what is cloud storage

typical /g/ autism

>>62465944
storing shit on someone else's machine.
2/10, too obvious

>>62461792
>i also have a Ubuntu server but no idea what i want to run on it.
A separate computer or just a virtual machine?

Ubuntu is a comfy way of learning about Linux and gaining experience. Uptime is good and there are reasons why Linux servers are popular.

>>62461833
Why not use comfier names? Like SummerWine and SilverSpurs. https://youtu.be/Ib_eW9VSUwM

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-16 at 3.43.16 PM.png (784KB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

784KB, 3360x2100px

>>62456407
>Yes I'm going to replace them with noctua.
Or just not be a fan and buy some enterprise class fans like Sanyo Denkis or Deltas. Also you're going to start a fire if you put noctua fans in your power supplies. just buy the right parts instead of putting meme ga/y/ming parts in it

>>62456624
its trash

>>62456752
>closet
you've clearly never been inside a data center

>>62461602
pic related

>>62462367
perfectly acceptable. its what hyperconverged storage is.

>>62464938
>Any suggestions for a half depth rackmount case with a fuckton of 3.5" bays?
There is no such thing as half depth, as depth isnt standardized at all.
>>62462577
you dont even need to pass through a HBA, you can just do pRDMs

>spend ~$900 on a Ryzen 5 NAS build (ZFS)
>spend ~$1200 on a whitebox esxi build combined with NAS, but risk buying an engineering sample xeon off ebay

not sure which one to do

>>62466275
get a fucking job and buy a real server

>>62465992
I'd rather name them after SG-1 characters

>>62465944
Cloud storage would be a server somewhere else. Instead of paying a one time fee + electricity for a home server, you'd be paying 5-30 dollars a month for someone else to host it for you. I rather just take some old parts that I have laying around and make a home server out of that.

>>62466314
done that before, and living in a small apartment currently I don't want to have something driving my room temperature up and being loud as fuck

>>62466097
>buy some enterprise class fans like Sanyo Denkis

Funny thing is they should already come with San Ace fans and are already good. OP just needs to set a fan profile.

Also replacing them with Noctuas will require modifying the plastic housing I think. It isn't even worth it.

>>62453880
what gets me is the faux-enterprise wired setup, and then the consumer grade wireless repeaters, like really? would it kill your damn weeb budget to at least use an Enterprise AP?

>>62463281
aside from asus' clone, what has reliable gigabit?

>>62451016
So I've got a DL180 G6 that's currently being used as a massive NAS (12x 4TB drives in a ZFS pool). The noise is a problem, and being an HP server, it uses proprietary fan modules.

How do I quiet this fucking thing down?

>>62466817
"enterprise" is a meme sold to clueless execs with millions to shell out for overpriced crap. It either tosses the packets or it does not.

>>62466822
banana pi, orange pi, odroid, I think some of them should have

>>62466907
It does a lot more than that. Can your wifi deliberately jam clients or other APs? My Cisco WLC and Aironets can.

>>62456775
this may come as a surprise to you but some people build this shit as a hobby, not a business that they're making money on.

>>62452327
Rackmounts for RPIs? wat Then again I should have realized something was up with a "Zen" "Cirnos" label...

File: 1501444844255.jpg (529KB, 1685x1000px) Image search: [Google]

529KB, 1685x1000px

>>62466956
he is a weeaboo autist in the extreme

I'm surprised he hasn't been arrested yet

>>62466934
You mean can your wifi break FCC laws and otherwise do asshole things? I'll somehow learn to do without that. I use wifi for traffic on shit I don't care about, 99% of that stuff is autism.

>>62466981
That's both impressive and cringe-inducing at the same time. Who the heck makes a full rack for a single rpi anyways? I mean why is that a product?

>>62466882
take the fans out

File: 1445538870839.jpg (2MB, 6100x2672px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 6100x2672px

>>62467022
buying wouldn't be enough for his sociopathic ass

>>62466990
>You mean can your wifi break FCC laws and otherwise do asshole things?
yes mine can. enterprise class equipment can also handle a lot more clients than your shitty consumer grade shitbox. think something like a sports stadium with tons of densly packed people all on their phones.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/4400-series-wireless-lan-controllers/112045-handling-rogue-cuwn-00.html#RM

>>62456565
you think people really mention their servers by hostname? my nas is named jiji but I just refer to it as my fileserver when I talk to my coworkers

File: four-laughing girls.jpg (2MB, 2000x1357px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2000x1357px

>>62467165
> I NEED enterprise level wifi for my BASEMENT

>>62467180
you failed so hard you couldnt even name your pic properly. they arent laughing, and at least one of them is a kike (2nd from left) so she isnt even human

>>62467180
lmao if you really think the people who can afford Enterprise wifi are on the same autismbucks card as you...

>>62467200
>autism status: confirmed

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-16 at 5.03.20 PM.png (536KB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

536KB, 3360x2100px

>>62467216
where do you think you are?

>>62467251
oh its the bixnood shit poster again

>>62467165
>implying your enterprise-class equipment can break the laws of physics

A $100 MikroTik can serve just as many clients on a single device as your overpriced "muh enterprise" shit. Idiots like you are the reason IT procurement sucks so bad.

File: 1493414238936.jpg (34KB, 345x309px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 345x309px

>>62451016
Is this another episode of a wannabe IT specialist in training setting up equipment way beyond their needs at home complete w/ dated hardware because poorfag that will use shit tons of energy, be loud as fuck, and is a rackmount (cause rackmounts are uber)?
> Yes
> mfw I can put more compute power and capacity in a mid tower case that uses a10th of the power than this archaic bullshit and for which doesn't sound like a hovercraft

> home server
- serve up downloads and shit that can fit on 1 4tb hard drive
- Behaving as if you have external clients who really are going to be lining up to download from you at shitty residential upload speeds vs getting the same shit from proper servers/torrents at 100x the speed.

>>62467165
> mfw you have 3 people at your house yet have enterprise class wifi solutions

I don't think this enterprise meme'ng will ever die... My advice, get a real job where you deal with million dollar racks for a living and realize no one spends beyond their needs and most of it is automated by enterprise level solutions. No one tinkers with this shit anymore unless they're getting paid or training to get paid.. Whereupon, you don't have this stupid equipment in your house anymore as there is no need for it.

>>62467144
..again, I'm both aroused and horrified. On one hand, re-purposing a Sun Cobalt and adding weeb is always a positive in my book.

On the other hand, IT IS A FUCKING RPI WHAT THE FUCK

>>62467283
keep on larping that this is true

>>62467314
>get a real job where you deal with million dollar racks for a living
Where do you think I got half my equipment?

>>62467314
HP DL180G6
12x4TB (SAS, P240 RAID)
64GB ECC
~100W idle, ~300W under load

Connected to an LTO4 tape robot running Backup Exec on a VM.

I've got most of my media collection and other important shit running on a reliable device with redundant PSUs, compute and storage for days, and all of it's absolutely safe. Total BoM is about $2000, and that's mostly the hard drives.

File: 1493540777490.jpg (343KB, 640x877px) Image search: [Google]

343KB, 640x877px

>>62467251
Essentially a regular home network sending vidya and media back and forth over wifi over 2.4ghz/5Ghz 802.11/b/g/n/a like every other pleb on earth.. but being an edgelord and doing it over enterprise level hardware.

> btw, speaking as someone who actually develops this equipment for a living, you'd be surprised at how shitty the hardware and software is... People literally laugh their ass off about the markup that can be charged for (enterprise) level shit vs. consumer whereupon there's literally just a label switch.

So, either you got some cheap liquidated enterprise wares for consumer prices or you're really that dumb thinking you're l33t because you paid full price for (((enterprise))) bullshit.

- Give me the model number and I'll show you the open bugs that allows someone to fully compromise it -

>>62467341
keep on larping that it isn't, faggot. you're going to run out of time slots on the wifi channel long before you run into hardware/software limitations on the AP..

>>62467389
>speaking as someone who actually develops this equipment for a living
you're not. you're a neet who is jelly of people who can afford nice things and try to shit all over them that your bestbuy shitbox is just as good

>>62467400
>I wish I could apply QoS profiles to specific applications on my microtik

>>62452327
>>62453880
Cute, but at the same time why? Couldn't that be done with fewer machines? Also
>that RPi cluster
>there's actually software designed for using a cluster as a normal computer
Oh my. I've said before that something like that would be neat, given how SBCs are the best way to accomplish open hardware today, but I didn't realize it had already been done.

>>62467314
>You're not allowed to have fun

File: winbox_2017-09-16_16-17-26.png (23KB, 706x426px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 706x426px

>>62467416
>implying you can't

Any other stupid statements you'd like to dribble out of your fat, ignorant yap?

File: 1492577548489.png (309KB, 495x451px) Image search: [Google]

309KB, 495x451px

>>62467341
> Last thing I want to look at when I work on such equipment at work is such equipment at home

>>62467388
> ~100W idle, ~300W under load
> BoM is about $2000
> 12x4TB (SAS)
Solid specs. DESU though, i learned to cut away from massive data storage past a certain age. You spend too much time living in the past and not centered on consuming and living in the ever growing data of the present.

On Demand consume w/ temp archive and then destroy... For music, pay spotify $10 a month and have an always current access to a music store way beyond what you can manage... Movies/shows,etc .. Similar service and on demand grabs..

Solve your music/media needs and your rarely have a need for 12x4TBs worth of storage at home. That just sounds ridiculous to me. imagine reducing that to 4TB max and actively living in the present data flows...

>>62467484
>I dont know what AVC is

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/8500-series-wireless-controllers/qa_c67-722538.html

File: 1494546940624.jpg (21KB, 417x405px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 417x405px

>>62467416
One of the processors in one of my desktops likely costs more than half your rack. Btw, I've likely written some of the code that runs on your (((enterprise))) equipment... The shit i've seen friendo.

>>62467512
Problem with all of those cloud services is the sheer annoyance when you want a thing and it's not there anymore because some contract negotiation between stuck-up millionaires broke down. I don't particularly care about Starz jewing Netflix and Viacom jewing Dish. It's all Jews jewing Jews jewing Jews.

I hold onto the shit I want to have because it comes and goes. Also, having the important stuff on tape in a safe deposit box (really) gives me peace of mind that these cloud companies never could.

File: Speccy.png (44KB, 660x558px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 660x558px

>>62467550
>One of the processors in one of my desktops likely costs more than half your rack.
They dont, I got pic related new. The chips were $1400 each at the time.

Now after getting btfo'd you autisically say i spent too much money on my computers.

I'm going to take a nap, i'll btfo you fags some more in a couple hours.

>>62467520
Oh, so it does what my Mikrotik does re: packet inspection, marking, prioritizing, and so forth, but does it at 10x the cost with the MUH ENTERPISE name.

You paid for a meme and you're trying to rationalize it. I'd also suggest you listen to >>62467550 because enterprise coding (in fact I have my hands on the internals of a device you statistically have in your home *right now*) is a fucking horrorshow.

>>62467584
>$50 dump pile xeons

>>62451431
penis is small, but server is thundercock

based

File: shitserver.jpg (666KB, 1188x2160px) Image search: [Google]

666KB, 1188x2160px

top to bottom
modem & asus router w. dd-wrt
dlink switch
dell optiplex1 - pfsense firewall: clamav, snort, squid, pfblocker, darkstat
dell optiplex2 - win7: openHAB
printer - brother hl-4040
freenas box - 32GB non-ecc ram, 3x4TB zfs: owncloud, plex, torrents, sickrage, ups monitor
apc 1500 ups

File: 1496279034472.jpg (32KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 480x480px

>>62467557
I really don't get this mentality though... I'm an enthusiast sure and I develop this kind of equipment for a living but I don't get this homeserver meme... I've been into computing for multiple decades and have gone through a number of hard drives. 1:1 copies.. A hard drive fails, grab the backup hard drive with copy, restore it to a functional and move on. This has happened maybe twice over multiple decades.

For music, nothing beats spotify. This is coming from having lived your life of archiving. A whole world opened up once I stopped archiving shit. There's soo much good music being developed everyday. You couldn't consume the multitude of it if you spent 12 hours a day listening to new stuff. As for the old #rare stuff, I have albums form the 70s saved on playlists that I can't even remember the names of..

Music/movies.. who the fuck really rewatches stuff that often and lets be honest.. most shit isn't even worth archiving. there's maybe a handful of solid movies/shows produced every year.

So, what drives this mentality? I stop trying to live in the past/archive when I graduated college and got a job. It's far too exciting to live in the real-time stream of data being pumped out every second of every day

>>62466529
Get a Dell tower server, those are quiet. I connect my servers to the ventilation system so that they suck in cold outdoor air. You might want to add an air filter.

>>62467600
pretty much this..

>>62467584
^8 core/16 threads 95W TDP 2.20Ghz base 3.0GHz max boost
> mfw my 8core/16thread w/ equivalent TDP has a base clock higher than your max boost. mfw this shit cost me $270.
> DDR3 @799Mhz
mfw DDR4 @3200Mhz

> mfw you're calling me a poorfag because I have more recent powerful/efficient hardware because I get rid of my old shit and keep things up to date.
> mfw 8corelet

> mfw I run a couple of drives off a fucking intel nuc for data storage because I rarely touch that shit but run modern hardware for compute

>>62467640
>A hard drive fails

Multiple hard drives fail, your house gets broken into and/or flooded, your computer catches on literal fire due to shitty wiring...

All of these things have happened to me, and they've made me *quite* paranoid with regard to backups.

Spotify is nice, and I subscribe to it, but there's stuff I have on my server right now that Spotify does not for some reason that is utterly irrelevant and uninteresting to me. And it's not like this is shit I just hoard, it's all stuff I like.

(That's a rule I started following a while ago - I don't hold onto media I don't use or enjoy).

And at the end of the day, it's cheaper, mostly hands off once it's set up (and as a geek, it was fun and I learned a lot), reliable, and millionaires don't get to take it away from me when they want.

That's the ultimate driver here, anon. Stability. If I get a wild hair up my ass to go watch some movie, I don't have to go groveling through 5 different streaming sites (each with their own subscriptions) to see which one has the rights today. I fire up Plex and I watch the damn movie. If I get some song stuck in my head, I don't have to care whether it's on Spotify or not, it's right there on my own local storage.

Maybe once the industry pulls its head out and comes up with a unified front end, this will change, but for now, it works and works well.

>>62451713
I though you won't anon. I saw you defend the non-mounted way a few times and even asked you another few. Why are you going to get a rack?

File: IMG_20170905_212319.jpg (3MB, 5312x2988px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 5312x2988px

>>62451016
r8 my Java machine

>>62467635
I'm seriously surprised this homeserver/data center rackmount meme is still going in 2017... I thought this died in the mid 2000s when high power compute/storage became so cheap. 4TB hard drives literally cost $100 and you can get an 8 core build for under $500.. Yet the rackmount meme still lives. Is this for aesthetics? the feel of things? What drives this edgy shit? Build a box, slap a 4TB hard drive in it, and plug in a fucking cat cable to a 1gigE port straight out the mobo (home server/super computer complete)

> muh pfsense firewall and shit..
No one's gonna hack you fool .. and if they do, you likely lack any in-depth knowledge on how to actively defend against it.

>>62467165
>https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/wireless/4400-series-wireless-lan-controllers/112045-handling-rogue-cuwn-00.html#RM
In what countries is this even legal?

File: IMG_20170905_212810.jpg (2MB, 5312x2988px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 5312x2988px

>>62467766
Server admin

>>62467748
> Multiple hard drives fail, your house gets broken into and/or flooded, your computer catches on literal fire due to shitty wiring...
Meanwhile in the real world, this never fucking happens. This is the kind of shit enterprise data centers plan/provision for to obtain 99.9999...% uptime certification. Stop being edgy, multiple hard drives don't fail at once especially when one set is kept constantly offline. If your house gets broken into, your shits gone regardless. Flooding? Because carrying a rack of shit out of the house is clearly more safe guarded then throwing a mid tower and some hds in the backseat of a car. Compute catches fire due to shitty wiring? Stop buying cheap ass PSUs.. this shit never happens faggot.

> All of these things have happened to me, and they've made me *quite* paranoid with regard to backups.
Clearly you're living on a ghetto budget buying shitty hardware then

Further, guess what happens when you leave your primary media in the cloud where it is best served? You don't give a rats ass when anything happens because your shit is in the cloud.

> Spotify is nice, and I subscribe to it, but there's stuff I have on my server right now that Spotify does not for some reason that is utterly irrelevant and uninteresting to me. And it's not like this is shit I just hoard, it's all stuff I like.
No offense, but you must be listening to some shitty music like basement metal if that's the case... Just about every basement junky's album is on spotify. If it isn't, you're literally talking about shit that'd take 1 4TB hard drive. Start maturing w.r.t your data and think about what you're missing out on by constantly focusing on your hoard. Spotify algorithmic-ally suggests amazing far ranging music to me every week that I can hardly keep up with.. Pick a genre.. they have it.

>>62467772
>What drives this edgy shit?
Not him but having it in a rack makes cabling tidy. I don't use a rack and the cabling is an embarrassment. Even if you have a nice powerful server you still need a UPS (at least around here), a router/switch, a router for the incoming fibre connection, a separate machine for a firewall etc. It all adds up to the mess.

>>62467898
Yes yes yes, only your use case matters and nothing else does. Go away now.

>>62467748
> That's a rule I started following a while ago - I don't hold onto media I don't use or enjoy).
You got me hellbent on trying to figure out how you enjoy/use more than 4TB of media .. You must be young and (in that phase). We all grow through it and then you buy a desktop or two, a handful of hard drives, a consumer grade wifi router, and run nothing but your OS and some apps. Too much other shit going on and happening in the world to be stuck on your hoarded likes.. not to mention your likes eventually change and change often at a certain age. I don't listen to the same shit I did when I was a teenager or even a year ago.

> Maybe once the industry pulls its head out and comes up with a unified front end, this will change, but for now, it works and works well.
How old are you anon? I'm genuinely curious.

File: tidy_deez_nutz.jpg (93KB, 489x733px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 489x733px

>>62467921
> cable tidying for a handful of desktop equipment
How old are you?

>>62467944
1080P movies with 5.1 audio aren't exactly kind on space. I've got the machine powered down right now or I'd give you a number, but you can generally assume 1 movie is around 10-15 gigs (lots of bluray rips). You can also treat feature-length things like GoT as individual movies *per episode*.

It's going to get even more insane once 4K is a thing.

Lossless music chews up a lot of space too.

As do ISOs, virtual machines, .RAW photos that I really do not want to lose...

>>62467944
I turn 30 in a few months, why?

File: 1496276668512.jpg (22KB, 533x477px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 533x477px

>>62467937
I just want to understand this edgy meme like behavior. My solid hunch is that you're a bunch of young edgelords who are reveling in the idea of being involved/surrounded somehow by enterprise level data center hardware even though the whole craft of such centers and equipment is to serve the max number of high volume users in the smallest equipment footprint w/o any noise concerns and along hot/cold aisle configurations for which heat is actively pulled out of the room. Meanwhile you guys celebrate shoving this shit into residential spaces claiming you have a need when a residential space has no high volume of users and/or simultaneous throughput needs, no critical need for 99.99999% uptime, and doesn't have proper cooling for rackmount equipment.

So, this all seems like a meme to me. I and others press you harder for what the fuck exactly is the need for this equipment and you come up with bogus brainlet excuses.. Meanwhile, you likely have nothing more than shitty 128kbps mp3s that are all available on spotify at 320kbps, beat ass divx encoded shit tier movies from the 90s, and some crusty ass porn flicks on drives that are decaying in power inefficient industrial rackmount shitboxes from ebay.

Meanwhile, you feel the need to configure a software firewall with rules and configs your brainlet ass doesn't understand rendering your home network more exposed than someone running some consumer level router with the default passwords... And all for what? to protect what? stale ass media that isn't being served outside your house (can't on your shit 120k upload broadband connection)...

If you think this will get you a job in the future, automated software manages data centers. There's literally no one in them most of the time. Instead of LARPing, pick up a book and learn how to develop the software and hardware that runs on your shitboxes

>>62467944
>You must be young and (in that phase)
When you get older and don't have a family, friends or spouse, you tend to find things to fill the void. In my case, it's my data. Not that anon, but I'm 27.

>>62468125
Yes yes yes, only your use case matters, nothing else does. You are psychic and can see what everyone here has on their hard drives and what their needs are.

Go away, child. Adults are speaking. And take your nazi memes with you.

>>62456565
In a past life I named the lab Fanuc robot "Lula." You've reminded me that I need to go back to calling her that.

File: phoebe-ann-according-to-my-research.jpg (50KB, 408x300px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 408x300px

>>62467772
>Is this for aesthetics? the feel of things? What drives this edgy shit?
it was free..where would you prefer i put all this shit?

>No one's gonna hack you fool
yea i know, its a hobby. relax.

>you likely lack any in-depth knowledge on how to actively defend against it.
this is the point of having the setup, learning stuff.

>>62468009
> 1080P movies with 5.1
> 1 movie is around 10-15 gigs
> lots of bluray rips
What is this 2007? It's called highly efficient codecs .. Who the fuck downloads blueray rips anymore. The max a proper 1080p rip runs is about 3-4gigs.. literally 1/3rd of the shit you've downloaded. Furthermore, again, how often do you revisit this shit? Also, I love people who dl' these near source material rips and watch them on $300 Samsung beige box TVs from walmart. If you're watching them on a high end TV and hifi setup, then i'd understand...

> 4k
If you're dumb enough to archive 4k material on room fulls of HDs, kys.

> Lossless music chews up a lot of space too.
Yep, you're one of these Larpers.. Lossless media memesters. Meanwhile, you likely are replaying it on shit tier equipment.
> mfw you're listening to 320kbps spotify on $800 Sennheiser cans.
> mfw you have hifi speakers that cost north of $1.5k a pop
> mfw you have an oled and 3/4gb 1080p is good enough

>.RAW photos
Dear lord.. the meme never ends

>>62468022
trying to group your 'type'

>>62468146
> 27/30
> attempting to fill the void

>>62468177
> mfw still hasn't learned not to pack their house full of free junk
> yea i know, its a hobby.
K, that solves that mystery
> this is the point of having the setup, learning stuff.
hobby....

K, i'm solid with my understanding of what the homeserver meme is all about. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers, I just wanted to probe deep and hard to understand what in the world drives this.

>>62467705
actually looking through ebay for these now and it's not a bad idea

are they actually quiet? I was looking at a T610

>>62468209
>If you're watching them on a high end TV and hifi setup, then i'd understand...

Glad to see you're not a complete dickbag. I'm not doing any audiophile tier bullshit, but I've got something I'm comfortable calling a "home theater". Large projection screen, 7.1 audio, comfy seats, the works.

>4k

You have another way to watch 4K without compressing the shit out of it and defeating the whole purpose? Absent a god tier internet connection you're stuck either holding onto the media or going where someone else does. And you'll note I said "when" - I don't have any 4k yet.

>RAW photos

That I shot myself, fuckhead. I know that this might be hard for vir/g/ins to understand, but when you get a family, you find memories of them to be irreplaceable. Those and some paperwork are some of the only things I own that I consider truly worth saving and not degrading them down to JPG just to please a bunch of storage autists (hence the aforementioned tape backup / safe deposit box setup).

>>62468264
Learning is a lot of it too. I originally got this box to have a VMWare environment to play around with. After I got comfortable with that, I rebuilt it into a proper storage/server/thing.

>>62464392
He needs access to the source code that he will never be intelligent enough to understand.

>>62468274
>I was looking at a T610
They're not bad. Mine was quiet enough that I was able to put it in the living room and not hear it when the TV was on.

Though I'd look at a T620 if the price isn't much different, but that's just me.

>>62459648
>DE on server
VNC into the server makes doing random shit easier. These environments do not load until you connect and unload when you disconnect.
>win7 as NAS OS
An unfortunate circumstance of being stuck on NTFS. I'm currently building a 144TB Raid6 NAS. Probably run FreeNAS on it.

>>62468740
I'm actually looking now at a t320 8c / 16t E5-2470, 48GB RAM

the 6xx series looked nice but I'm going to have this in my bed room (nowhere else to put it) and after some googling it seems like it might be just too loud for that
I think this one I found is going to be plenty enough for me to get my homelab back up and run a ZFS vm for media storage

File: gaff.jpg (19KB, 600x246px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 600x246px

>>62468310
Life moves too fast to be archiving and trying to maintain data of the past. There's literally so much data being produced in real-time, that you'd drown trying to keep up with it.. much less dedicating time to past data and consumption therein. My curiosity was peaked. I've been a bit harsh but I thank you and respect you for detailing your use case.

> 4k/raw/etc
media quality should match the viewing quality of your equipment.
Highlighting the level of equipment I have was only meant to touch upon the ability to consume mainstream level codec'd media w/o issue. I find that fathers and those with families get far more into this than true enthusiast and it almost seems the reason is to impress their wife and kids (kang of the universe) or because they're trying to fill a void that their wife/kids create (a larpist escape). Living this life freely, I take it to no such extreme.. It's whatever gets the job done in a reasonable sense.. got life to live.

>RAW photos
I have photos dating back to the 90s from middle school on up when you were lucky to maybe get a megapixel... Magically they survived all the years of drives simply because I made 1 dupe of them and kept it offline. In case of failure, dupe is put on a new drive and life continues.
rarely max'd res/qual because storage sensible.

Data anxiety is a real and it leads to hoarding and mentalities like this :
>when you get a family, you find memories of them to be irreplaceable.

Nothing of value would change if every bit of data you possessed was wiped from the face of earth today. In some ways, having such an event occur is probably the best thing to occur to some people just to show them how little their hoards are worth and the impractical meanings they put on the past. There is shit that is very very important like work. For that, make multiple backups across multiple media and this event will never occur.. but music/movies/shows/pictures and shit.. roast it, see, and be free.

File: 1491066625155.jpg (184KB, 800x980px) Image search: [Google]

184KB, 800x980px

>>62468511
> mfw people used to hoard 1000 pdf books on Computer science
> mfw 3 to 4 new editions came out by the time they made their way back to the files
> mfw never managed to read past 10 pages of any one of them
> mfw brainlet
> mfw it felt l33t having so much educational material on one's drive
> mfw brainlet is likely still transferring these dated as pdfs from the 90s from drive to drive as density increase because : You just can't find this shit anymore
> mfw you can't find it anymore because its worthless and outdated
> mfw plays buthole surfers album from 1986 on spotify while typing this post

How shit are hard drives for virtual machines?
An SSD is highly recommended I'm guessing.

>>62469276
>How shit are hard drives for virtual machines?
Anything less than RAID 0 RAM drives isn't going to be fast enough for that.

>>62469276
not shit at all

test

>>62461190
>he LITERALLY doesn't read the recommended specifications of freeNAS which is 8GB of RAM

Literally no argument, go back to >>>/v/ and play your GTA5 with a Celeron

wow this fucking thread

weebshitters

smfh

>>62469720
Nah man, I think people are getting tired of the larping bullshit that is common...
When I come into and try to get comfy in a homeserver thread, I want to engage with someone doing something highly technical with reason so I can get exposed to something beyond someone larping and over-complicating how they store pictures and fucking torrent files in their home.

>>62469442
>>he LITERALLY doesn't read the recommended specifications of freeNAS which is 8GB of RAM

>recommended

>>62469442
yeah,and i bet you need a 4k display at 144Hz to use a text editor too

>got an old desktop that I repurposed into a NAS with 4 drives and to watch movies and backups and anime and practice my linux development and to get it to download stuff when im away from home and all that other fun shit
>its on 24/7 and when it isnt doing anything I just have it cpu-mine XMR for whatever reason since I cant think of what else to have it do besides idling when im not using it

what else can I do with a server yo. I'm gonna get a new gpu soon so I can handmedown it to the server and have it fruitlessly mine or something but I'm stumped as to what to have it do more than just store shit and practice linux dev. I already have remote seedboxes.

I guess the better question is:
what services do you guys run on your server while it runs 24/7?

>>62469863
>check ragezone and find a game server to host

>>62469855
>being desperate to the point of using Ad Hominem attacks
How sad.
>>62469806
Recommended specs are there for a reason, it is to tell you what the makers of the OS, in this case FreeNAS thinks is necessary to ensure the machine is running decently. Running the minimum specs is just asking for a slow and laggy, or even unreliable system.

>>62469921
except it doesn't,it works just fine at even 2GB

tell me what freenas benchmarks can I run to find this slowness and lag?

>>62468125
I do this because it is fucking fun, you sound like an asshole.

>>62470060
>fun

>>>/v/

>>62470068
>tech should never be your hobby

kill yourself

>>62468929
My T620 wasn't bad. Neither is my T410.

The problem I have is that I need more storage. I may end up picking up a T630/T640 (when released) or building something from Supermicro, because I keep all my Plex stuff in raw or near raw format, and let the server transcode to the clients (Xbox / Roku).

>>62452327
pls just replace this entire picture with an r7 and 32gb of ram. it'll be more powerful and you'll get the money back in power and AC bills in 6 months

File: vhnfgngfn.jpg (61KB, 1271x340px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 1271x340px

>>62469961

:^)

Rate me - retro edition

pfSense box - Compaq Deskpro EN SFF (Celeron 800, 512MB RAM, 16GB CF card, on-board Intel 10/100Mb LAN, 4 port PCI 10/100Mb LAN)
>WAN (on-board)
>LAN 1 - my workstation + laptop
>LAN 2 - wife + kids' machines
>LAN 3 - 70s-90s shit with insecure OSes (I maintain/sell parts for/migrate legacy systems for a living)
>LAN 4...
-Compaq Alphaserver DS10 running OpenBSD 6.1 (617Mhz Alpha 21264, 4GB RAM, 8TB storage spread across 4 2.5" SATA HDDs)
Runs a mirroring service and my collection of vintage software (FTP, SFTP, rsync, BitTorrent), can easily manage 100Mb upload, though I only get 72Mb upload with my ISP.

-Industrial Touch-Screen PC running Debian Stable (1.6GHz Atom, 2GB RAM, 80GB SATA SSD)
Dicking about with I2P/Tor/Freenet routers

-"Anchor of the Month" (DEC MicroVAX 3100/30, Sun SPARCstation 5, 486 PC) - Running OpenBSD
Hosts my online shop, blog, and BBS. Only 1 runs at a time.


Sure, the servers are old. But I like them because:
>they're quiet
>they fit on a shelf
>they use less power than my workstation when they're all running
>they're secure (OpenBSD and no hardware botnets)
>they almost keep me warm in the workshop (it's only warm for like, 3 weeks a year

>>62470705
what does that have to do with anything?

>>62470426
>he wastes time on a hobby, or any recreational activities for that matter
>productivity lost for employer
You are a shameful employee.

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-16 at 9.48.41 PM.png (96KB, 534x594px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 534x594px

>>62467592
>so it does what my Mikrotik does re: packet inspection
And Mikrotik is notoriously bad at it

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=108853

>>62467720
You couldnt even look up the correct stats, and you dont even know how DDR memory frequencies work.

>>62467775
Does it matter? Its enabled on the US SKUs which is all I care about.

>>62467944
>You got me hellbent on trying to figure out how you enjoy/use more than 4TB of media
Pretty easy. DL blurays and never delete them. With 4K movies coming in at 100GB it is even easier to fill an array.

>>62468209
>Who the fuck downloads blueray rips anymore. The max a proper 1080p rip runs is about 3-4gigs.
pic related

>>62469276
>How shit are hard drives for virtual machines?
very

>>62470843
>productivity lost for employer
Fuck the employer.

Not that anon, but I go in, work my 40 hours, and go home. Doesn't matter how much I'm paid, I'm not on-call, and I don't work for free.

Is this a good deal?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-2-5-Virtualization-Server-2x-2-53GHz-E5540-16GB-iDRAC-/

No hard drives included

File: jew.png (225KB, 800x764px) Image search: [Google]

225KB, 800x764px

>>62470843

>>62471013
No. The CPUs are old as shit, not that it really matters. What you want is core count to prevent high CPU ready. Also you need tons of RAM, in my previous pic it shows im using 200GB just for a homelab.

>>62471062
>200GB ram
wtf how much does 200GB ram cost

is your's ecc? could you link me to your pic?

>>62471090
>wtf how much does 200GB ram cost
I dont know, look on ebay for 4x 16GB DDR3 1600 and 28x 8GB DDR3 1600.

>is your's ecc?
of course - RDIMMs

>could you link me to your pic
see >>62466097

Anyways just buy a SuperMicro chassis which you can re-use over and over again as you eventually upgrade in the future. Ignore Dell/HP boxes because you'll never be able to put a newer motherboard in them.

>>62471136
Thanks for the info.

I have some experience with linux and want to get my own home server to mess around with, but your specs are way outside my price range right now.

Also one more question: I've done some research on RAID5 and RAID6. Many sites say that if one drive fails and you rebuild your volume, you will run into a URE error and all your data is fucked. What is the maximum amount of data and disks you can safely have in a RAID5/6 volume using new-ish consumer-grade disks? Is it better to use RAID1 or RAID10?

File: network.jpg (2MB, 4656x2620px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4656x2620px

>>62467994

The full size freestanding rack is overkill, but, having everything in a small enclosed rack with a glass front door does make everything look much better compared to having servers and switches lying around out in the open. Also helps significantly with the sound.

Though personally, i wouldn't have even bothered if I wasn't running all new cable.

>prosumer grade chink networking gear
Its cheap, low power, no noise, no heat, and has all the features I want with.

>>62471262
You don't want RAID. You want ZFS or BTRFS

>>62471262
>you will run into a URE error and all your data is fucked.
Assuming your RAID card isnt a piece of shit you should only lose a stripe worth's of data. My Areca 1883ix-24 for example has a option to continue to rebuilding on error and can be configured to ignore errors on rebuilds.

This is also why you buy enterprise class disks, they have one or two orders of mangitude better unrecoverable error rates compared to desktop class disks.

The reason people dont like RAID 5 is that on rebuilds the disks will be at (or close to) a full load, and since the rest of your disks were probably all from the same batch, you'll likely have a 2nd disk die at during the rebuild. Also since it will be rebuilding for a day or more the HDs will heat up more than usual and if you dont have the proper fan profile, they could over heat as well.

> What is the maximum amount of data and disks you can safely have in a RAID5/6 volume using new-ish consumer-grade disks?

None? They dont have the extra rotational vibration sensors which enterprise class disks do. When I first started with home servers like a decade ago I had a bunch of Seagate desktop class disks and they constantly died. I learned my lesson. If you're going to poorfag it look for used enterprise class HDDs from a company which can ship them properly.

>Is it better to use RAID1 or RAID10?
RAID 10 although unlike RAID 6, RAID 1/10 isnt guaranteed to survive 2 disk failures.

>>62471377
>You don't want RAID. You want ZFS or BTRFS
Alright, So suppose I use raidz1 or raidz2.

I think my question still stands, if a single HDD fails and I rebuild my volume, what is the max amount of data I should have to avoid running into a URE?

>>62471377
>has a rack
>only has 1 rack mount box
>not even a PDU just a shitty office depot power strip

>>62471382
I see, thanks. Assuming I get pre-owned enterprise disks in good condition, what's the max amount of data I should have in a volume?

Also, does this change if I use ZFS's raidz1 or raidz2 instead of hardware RAID?

>>62471436
>what's the max amount of data I should have in a volume?
That doesnt make sense in the context or a RAID. Because a volume may or may not take up the entire array. Also because during a build all the volumes on a array will need to be rebuilt. If you're worried about bit rot ZFS or ReFS/CSVFS_ReFS is the solution. I use the latter because ZFS is dead now that oracle killed off Solaris and it doesnt have commercial backing.

File: pfSense.png (70KB, 462x839px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 462x839px

>>62470814
>tfw an 800MHz Celeron is overkill

>>62470908
> mfw this one file is like 35 1080p 5.1 movies that can play on a 50" Phile tv and file sound system and not know the difference. At least you're not larping about your media content. You truly are a madman who has 120GB media files...

>>62471466
>Also because during a build all the volumes on a array will need to be rebuilt.
Also because during a rebuild all the data on all the volumes on a array will need to be rebuilt.

Also keep in mind that you will encounter UREs regardless of the disks you use. RAIDs (wether hard or soft) typically have scrub processes which will read all the blocks on all the disks every week (or month or however you configure it)

>>62471484
Its 10 bit 4K

File: assrape.png (98KB, 1603x1111px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 1603x1111px

>>62471396
>4U box plugs directly into UPS
>everything else is shitty consumer grade crap that don't even have fans.

And really, a 9U box with 21.5" max depth can't honestly be considered a rack. It's just a box that I shove all my networking stuff into that just so happens to have server mounting support.

I even had to look everywhere just to find a short 4u case, and then got raped on short rails that don't even slide.

>>62471377
Alright anon, you're giving me more source sauce... the rack looks comfy and family tier. Seems you have a reasoned setup going over there.

>>62471396

>not even a PDU just a shitty office depot power strip

Ever seen inside a telco or roadside VMS/RCC cabinet? Every one I've seen just had one of those cable tied to a sheet of steel with holes drilled in.

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-16 at 10.51.04 PM.png (2MB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3360x2100px

>>62471613
I've only ever been in data centers, not telcos. They all had PDUs. I even have 2 at home. They're not that expensive

>>62471588
Why did you buy such a small rack?

>>62471588
>$120 for some rails
jesus christ that's a rip off. That's probably half the price of the damn case

>>62471643
Its a pretty common price for rails.

File: Y9AqJGu.jpg (1MB, 3328x1872px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3328x1872px

>>62471588
Meanwhile there's a guy on Reddit who bought 17x 42U Server cabinets for $58 bucks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/6zxz2d/i_accidentally_bought_seventeen_42u_racks_for_58/

Mfw my home server is a x220 with external hdd.

>>62471641

>I've only ever been in data centers, not telcos. They all had PDUs. I even have 2 at home. They're not that expensive

How long have they been making them for? I've seen them in data centres too, but only on racks made within the last 15 years. Most of the sites I've visited are still using beige 80s/90s racks and the odd 70s PDP-11 rack (ironically the only older rack to have a PDU, but it uses NEMA 220v sockets which is unusual here in Britfagistan)

File: muh_racks.jpg (68KB, 561x420px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 561x420px

>>62471669
>https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/6zxz2d/i_accidentally_bought_seventeen_42u_racks_for_58/
No mention of the deliver charge. I'm guessing he chucked them in a uhaul and transported them himself? This reminds me of how miners figured out how to solve their mounting/scaling issues by being economic and tossing shit onto kitchen racks that go from floor to ceiling for $50 but are fully collapsible and transportable.

> muh racks

File: RM-500-9U.jpg (171KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

171KB, 1000x1000px

>>62471641
To shove it under my stairs in the basement. It was literally the only place in the house that isolates the noise and is easy to run cables to from the entire house, and that case was the only practical way to get my server and networking stuff in that location.

Shits home use, not enterprise, different environments dictate different hardware, just because its server grade doesn't mean it's the right part for the job.

>>62471604

>RPC-431 4U Short Depth Rackmount
>Ryzen 5 1600 stock
>ASRock B350 PRO4
>16GB 2400 RAM
>Some shit generic HBA SATA Card
>9x3TB consumer 7200rpm HDDs
>500GB SSD Cache
>replaced intakes with 2x120mm poofans
>replaced exhaust with 2x 80mm poofans
>all networking gear is from ebay/amazon warehouse

And it does everything, VMs, PLEX, NAS, etc.

As for the case, i'm 99% sure it's a chinese OEM that makes them, so check your local cable vendors.

http://www.infinitecables.com/racks-cabinets-and-accessories/wall-mount-cabinets/wall-mount-cabinet-9u-x-19.5-usable-depth-glass-door-fans-black/

>>62471808
>How long have they been making them for?
Since forever? Mine are old enough that they're out of support and Firefox refuses to work with whatever legacy version of SSL they use.

>>62471839
>After straps, dollies, renting a Uhaul, bribing friends, etc. I'm closer to $600 in the end. It's pretty sad that I spent nearly ten times as much just getting them from point A to point B.

That being said, you can always find really cheap 42U racks on craigslist/ebay because many data centers use them and need to get rid of them, but no home owner really wants anything that big.

>>62471962
Renting a hand truck and truck with a lift gate would have cost a lot less than $600. This guy spent so much money because he doesnt know how to move equipment. He could have moved them all by himself.

>>62470908
What tracker has 10bit 4k rips?

/g/, what do you use your /homeserver/ for?

what do you niggers do with all this?

>>62454287

>Firebox

Being lazy enough to use that steaming pile of shit over loading pfSense on a P4.

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-16 at 11.37.38 PM.png (771KB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

771KB, 3360x2100px

>>62472117
I dunno, I found it on torrentz2.eu but it got DMCA'd.

>>62472172
I work for them, no reason to buy or setup something else.

>>62456624

>SSDs in SAS bays on a 10 year old server

Totally not a recipe for disaster. Also, good luck getting firmware updates. I'd keep my $100

>>62468209
>Yep, you're one of these Larpers.. Lossless media memesters. Meanwhile, you likely are replaying it on shit tier equipment.

You download lossless audio for better transcoding. its not because FLACS sound better than 320kbps mp3s, though I'm sure some audiofag will argue that.

>>62472188

>I work for them, no reason to buy or setup something else.

If the work experience is anywhere near as terrible as the product, my condolences. I'd rather configure an ASA via command line with one eye gouged out than deal with another Firebox.

>>62467640
>nothing beats spotify

Spotify doesn't have everything in my collection that I've been maintaining for 20 years off of torrent trackers and usenet.

>>62472242
Eh it depends on the config, most things a brain dead toddler could configure on a Firebox.

>>62468209

Disks are cheap, poorfag.

>all these unmaged 10/100 switches

>>62472312
Why bother with managed gigabit if you're not moving tons of data between machines on the LAN, and your ISP gives you under 100Mb anyway?

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-16 at 11.56.34 PM.png (1MB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 3360x2100px

>>62472346
>why would I want PVLANs
>why would i want 10GbE
>why would i want line rate routing
>why would i want routing protocols
>why would i want countless other nice things

>>62472373

You didn't answer the question, you just gave a list of "nice things" without giving me your use case. What are you actually doing in a home environment that isn't completely overkill?

File: 10GbE (S2D SOFS Rebuild).png (533KB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

533KB, 3360x2100px

>>62472405
All you're going to say is that it is over kill. I use all of those things I listed. Pic related, when I reboot one of my hosts and it has to perform a delta sync of the storage spaces direct volume.

File: screen.1505624751.png (5KB, 402x233px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 402x233px

>>62472346
Speaking of LANs, what is an acceptable transfer speed?

File: Screen Shot 2017-09-17 at 12.06.29 AM.png (2MB, 3360x2100px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3360x2100px

>>62472405
PVLANs are in use too

>>62454308
Don't they interfere with each other?

>>62472470
of course they do

>>62472470
Yea but since they are all on the same SSID they are fine. It's just to test them to make sure they are working properly.

>>62454308
This looks so shitty and disorganized.
You need some finesse.

>>62472499
Agreed, once I get my house they are going no each corner of the house and one in the center.

>>62472496
>Yea but since they are all on the same SSID they are fine.
No its not. its the entire reason why enterprise class equipment has things like Cisco CleanAir where a controller manages them and adjusts their channels and power output dynamically. Even with a controller, it cant do jack shit if they're all inches away from each other.

>>62472496
>>62472511
And the SSID has nothing to do with them interfering with each other or not.

>>62472419

What are you syncing? Most file and document formats are compressed these days.

>>62472450
>>62472461

Again, show me your use case.
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

>>62472511
They are controlled by the Firebox. I agree that they are interfering with each other however it hasn't been a problem.

>>62472521
They are just being tested at the moment.

>>62472419
>falling for the delta sync meme
>2017

>>62472540
>Again, show me your use case.
I'm going to use my NAS as storage, meaning I'll be transferring 1~10GB files daily over local network. Why would I not want maximum LAN speeds for that? If Windows supported ZFS then I wouldn't need to, but it doesnt

>>62472540
>What are you syncing?
I told you before, the storage spaces direct volume. I can only assume you dont know what this is. Think of it like RAID, but instead of just being across hard drives it is across servers as well. I can have a server go offline and not lose access to its data.

>Most file and document formats are compressed these days.
I fail to see how this is in any way relevant.

>Again, show me your use case.
I just showed you it for 10GbE, and for PVLANs to be able to isolate traffic without needing to put everything on its own VLAN which would eventually cause me to hit the limit of SVIs on the switch.

>>62472549
Stay retarded anon.

>>62472570
>If Windows supported ZFS then I wouldn't need to, but it doesnt
CSVFS_ReFS is better and isnt a dead product.

what is the actual purpose of your home servers that justifies having it on 24/7

>>62472580
It taking a half hour to boot up unattended.

File: 1474956244452.webm (206KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

206KB, 1280x720px

>>62451016
>100lbs
>heavy

Alright, I'm a noob to networking.

I have a Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller which supports 1Gps.

In order to get 10GbE LAN speeds, do I need to purchase a 10GbE NIC? Does my router also need to support 10Gb too?

Even if I have 10GbE, Wouldn't my HDD's be a major bottleneck?(Unless of course they were in a RAID, which would mean increased read/write)

File: Data Disk.png (39KB, 861x742px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 861x742px

>>62472608
>In order to get 10GbE LAN speeds, do I need to purchase a 10GbE NIC? Does my router also need to support 10Gb too?
yes

>Even if I have 10GbE, Wouldn't my HDD's be a major bottleneck?(Unless of course they were in a RAID, which would mean increased read/write)
yes. and its why people here have SSD RAIDs

File: Boot Disk.png (40KB, 866x746px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 866x746px

>>62472619
wrong disk. pic related can saturate 40GbE easily.

>>62472591
That's just an empty case.
It has 36 Bays.
If all bays are full of 3.5'' HDDs, then that's going to end up being 200lbs.

And there's a difference between 200lbs of dummy weights, and 200lbs of very delicate, fragile 200lbs. Pick that shit up the wrong way and say goodbye to all that data.

>>62472640
>Pick that shit up the wrong way and say goodbye to all that data.
Not really. the heads on the hard drives park themselves. and if you're lifting equipment which is powered on you're retarded.

With that said this is certainly a box you'd use two people to lift or a equipment lift

>>62472573

>open an uncompressed file, flip 1 bit, and save it
>delta sync flips the bit

>open a compressed file, flip 1 bit, and save it
>delta sync replaces the entire file

I'm having a hard time just finding a reason to have my server on 24/7 when all I use it for is storage and the occasional linux dev stuff.
It's basically a big external flash drive at this point.

The fuck are you all doing with your servers that merits getting a server rack and 100$ switches and shit

>>62472711
thats not the way S2D works anon. the stripe size is 256kb on the volume and is configurable. it would only sync 256kb in your scenario.

>>62472731
But the entire compressed file is different when modified, regardless of size.

>>62472728
>when all I use it for is storage and the occasional linux dev stuff.
I have torrents/downloads/backups running 24/7, so that's my use case.

I have unlimited data caps with fiber speeds for a limited time, so I'd be literally wasting my money by not using all my bandwidth 24/7

>>62472775
>But the entire compressed file is different when modified, regardless of size.
Yes and S2D doesnt work at the file level.

>>62467748
>That's the ultimate driver here, anon. Stability. If I get a wild hair up my ass to go watch some movie, I don't have to go groveling through 5 different streaming sites (each with their own subscriptions) to see which one has the rights today. I fire up Plex and I watch the damn movie. If I get some song stuck in my head, I don't have to care whether it's on Spotify or not, it's right there on my own local storage
This right here.

>go to watch a youtube video:
>deleted by owner
>removed on copyright grounds

>go to watch porn video that was REALLY good that hit that super niche situation I really want to see
>NOWHERE to be seen

>load up book mark to some info I REALLY fucking NEED
>HURR 404

>some shit happens that the media is trying to cover up
>this video has been removed due to violating our tos

also with movies and music, its hard to find some stuff. Alot of good stuff is starting to disappear. Not that many people are seeding 20 year old scifi, and alot of times its all just really shitty rips. When you finally download 60 gb of perfect quality 20 year old show, you sorta don't want to risk not being able to get it again.

File: 729.gif (137KB, 340x340px) Image search: [Google]

137KB, 340x340px

>>62467720
>mfw DDR4 @3200Mhz
Whats your cas latencies anon, 30?

What's an older server that's kinda quiet, that I could pick up for cheap? I'm using an i7 Mac Mini as my ESX server and 16GB of RAM isn't cutting it anymore...

>>62473143
hehe just upgrade your ram

>>62473143
Try x3250 m3 I got it with an i3 and 2GB of ecc ddr3 for ~35$ and you can get x3430+32rdimm so it's not that bad, but only 2 3,5" or 4 2,5" hdds

>>62473020
Dumb anime poster

>>62473191

Good luck finding 2x 16GB DDR3 SODIMM's! Doubt the mac would even take 'em..

>>62473194

That's fine, don't care about HDD's - using iSCSI. Will have a look.

File: qt3.png (402KB, 1019x674px) Image search: [Google]

402KB, 1019x674px

>>62473000
This, also nice quads.
For me, porn is a big one.

You're following an artist and all of a sudden they close their pixiv/tumblr page, remove all their art online and literally vanish off the fucking planet. If I didn't save it, I'd have to go around helplessly begging, hoping some anon who wasn't retarded like me decided to archive it.

Sad Panda had to remove a ton of their doujin because of the WANI DMCA.
Rule34 had to remove all their loli because of ads.(Though I think it's allowed again?)

Storage is cheap.
Avoid single points of failure.

File: muh-minimalism.jpg (39KB, 468x286px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 468x286px

>>62469006
>> In some ways, having such an event occur is probably the best thing to occur
Fuck on back to /out/, you smug shit.

>>62473199
Pedo website.

>NAS4free embedded
>x3 zmirrors

just werkz

>>62469006
>In some ways, having such an event occur is probably the best thing to occur to some people
no
its not

I wiped all my storage once because I saw 20 police cars outside my house. I saw cops start running outside and i panicked and purged it all, despite it being encrypted. they were going for the guy next door.

I did that in 2014, and I still regret that decision. If all my storage somehow gets wiped again I'm killing myself

>>62473143
>>62473216

Post your proposed iscsi setup. Would also like to try something similar.

>>62453880
no, but these are fun because they are so pathetic. Gotta hoard all this shit and set it up in a network when you can even afford one decent PC.

>>62473424

Jesus christ. that was a wake up call, and yet you continue hoarding your pedotrash.

>>62473451
>wake up call

collecting(not hoarding) is my hobby. I like organizing and managing my vast collection, and sharing it too of course. It makes me feel good having it.

Also
>There's literally so much data being produced in real-time, that you'd drown trying to keep up with it
Automation solves most of that. I'm good enough at programming to make software and scripts that handle that for me. That leaves only a very edge cases, a minimum of 5 hours a day towards my hobby.

For example, a site offers DLSite H-games. I made a script that crawls the site and caches all the links. Then I use JDownloaders API to rename the downloaded files folders based on a special tag, which I can then use that tag to crawl DLsite and download tags/info about the game.

I did this a few months ago and got 1TB of H-games, all properly tagged and so on. It's fun.

>>62473430

It's nothing serious :(

DS2413+ (12bay Diskstation), using secondary eth into my Cisco 3560 on a different VLAN.

>>62467640
>who the fuck really rewatches stuff
>It's far too exciting to live in the real-time stream of data
I understand people like you even less than you understand people like me. Do you have no tastes and preferences of your own? You just take whatever the world barfs up for you today? Your life sounds like a horror story about someone with amnesia.

>>62467772
>No one's gonna hack you fool
No, they aren't, because I'm using pfSense and not one of the cheap consumer "home gateways" that are riddled with vulnerabilities - and which hackers target, since they're so widespread. You're making the mistake of thinking that getting hacked is some individually-targeted thing, some person who wants to fuck with me in particular. It isn't, it's people trawling literally the whole IPv4 address space looking for something that's vulnerable and pwning whatever they can find. Being "uninteresting" is no defense at all.

>>62469006
>In some ways, having such an event occur is probably the best thing to occur to some people just to show them how little their hoards are worth and the impractical meanings they put on the past
Whatever kind of world you live in, I want zero part of it. Your "fuck all that having a past and memories and mementos and shit" is probably one of the most existentially horrifying lifestyles I can think of. Why would you want to live such a rudderless existence? does nothing matter to you? Or is everything in life - not just stuff, but all your experiences and hobbies and history - just another worthless wrapper to be tossed away because lol, who needs it?

>>62473424
I lost some stuff when I fucked up moving my drives to a new system a few years ago. did I "need" it, no, not really. But I'm still dismayed over losing it.

File: 17-377-002-03.jpg (26KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 640x480px

>>62462892
>The main culprit is the PSU
I see. I just assumed it was the fans.

After reading reviews, it seems many other people had the same issue with the stock 2x 700W PSU's, so I'm ordering this. Thanks for the tip.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817377002

It's not only quiet but also more energy efficient.
I still really, really need a good cabinet suggestion.