/hpg/ Headphone General

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HD600 here.
What's your idol like, Anon?

>>62445933
I want to get the hd600, too.
I'm gonna wait til I can find it on sale for $250 though.
I've got enough headphones atm to hold me over
[spoiler]I know they're $280 something on Amazon atm[/spoiler]

>>62445955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDjbTjelkgk

>>62445977
Yes yes. Thanks for sharing

running with a cable is annoying as shit, what are some decent wireless/bluetooth buds

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

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>>62446064
>wireless/bluetooth
>decent

>>62446139
the pic+timestamphone.

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Asking again since I didn't get an answer last time:

I've read online that the Bose QuietComfort 25 leak a lot of sound to the outside world... How bad is it, really?
I really want good sound-isolating headphones, but I don't want anyone else to hear my shitty anime music and think I'm a pedophile or something.

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>>62446406
HD569 or HD380 Pro.
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD569.pdf
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD380Pro.pdf
The latter have far better isolation, but worse sound (more bass-centric, less flat midrange). They do regardless sound very good (I do own them)

Posted this last time and got a couple real suggestions but mostly a bunch of people arguing about HD600's. I've tried them and thought they were really underwhelming so lets try this again.

>Budget
<$600
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, DAC+amp that can drive up to 600ohms
>Type of headphone
Full sized/Over ear
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Comfort is really important
>Sound signature
V shaped or neutral with decent bass. Will be used for movies music and games
>Past headphones
DT770Pro (liked), Audioquest nighthawk(did not like)

>>62446512
these are not active noise-canceling, though.

>>62446707
DT 1990

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>>62446737
Nopes, but they do have really good noise isolation, which is what matters regarding leaking.
As for outside noises disturbing your listening, with the HD380 Pro, listening via fulla 2 at 8 o'clock volume (pretty much the minimum), I couldn't hear the fire alarm at the office, a workmate had to tap my shoulder for me to notice. That's good good.
And re: ANC, my brief experience with somebody's bose QC35 was instant headache + nausea + almost vomiting. Can't say I am a fan.

>>62446803
I doubt any non-ANC could block out the ambient noise of air/train travel (which is primarily what I'm interested in)

>>62445883
guys guys guys

what's a good IEM besides the MK5?

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>>62446925
With ANC, you'll still hear the people around you chatting. It doesn't even try to block that.
What you need it good isolation.

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I just bought the HD650. What are some good music to listen to?

>>62446967
could you stop with the fucking "tee-hee le anime screencap I am a weeb just like you ^_^" bullshit?

In any case, you don't seem to understand what kind of noise air/train travel generates. It's not enough to block out the crowds of fat moms and screaming children, you also have to contend with the ever-present awful engine noise.
Also, these Sennheiser recs look absolutely ridiculously large. I don't want to look like a tool.

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>>62446995
But of course, idols!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO3XdWimbKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfJnHdBC-X8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUF3HlmcDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkApPluwP3U
>>62447024
>could you stop with the fucking "tee-hee le anime screencap I am a weeb just like you ^_^" bullshit?
kek, haters gonna hate.
>you also have to contend with the ever-present awful engine noise.
But that's pleasant? Do you hate trains or something? People are THE annoyance.

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https://canpicker.com/

Taking more detailed comments on headphones. Drop some comments if you've owned any of these. In the process of overhauling the UI and providing more info.

>>62447088
Price should be a maximum, not a range.

>>62447085
>But that's pleasant? Do you hate trains or something? People are THE annoyance.
they are, but you can't actually enjoy music with a constant BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT of the engines or the gooddamn screeching of the train tracks. Blocking out humans is a huge plus, but it's pointless if you still can't hear shit without turning up the volume to 50%+. In other words, a "general" noise-reducing pair of headsphones that does a decent job at canceling out humans and engines is good, but ANC that does a superb job at canceling engines but only a "subpar" job at cancelling human noises is better.
Have you ever even been in an airplane in your short underage life? I begin to suspect you're only recommending these HD380 because they are the first and only headphones you ever bought, and you're moderately satisfied with them.

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>>62447167
>Have you ever even been in an airplane in your short underage life?
I'm over 30, been in airplanes several times, including intercontinental travel (Europe <-> Japan :P). But I've never ever listened to music on a plane. I do sleep just fine in airplanes somehow.
>I begin to suspect you're only recommending these HD380 because they are the first and only headphones you ever bought, and you're moderately satisfied with them.
I also own HD600. I'm actually quite satisfied with those.
>you can't actually enjoy music with a constant BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT of the engines or the gooddamn screeching of the train tracks.
Never been annoyed by train sounds, only people talking and being annoying in general. As for music, I've enjoyed music on somewhat long (~6h) train trips before, with mere earbuds (not even IEMs).
As for the HD380, I've enjoyed them with actual loud and annoying construction work going on. Even with music at low volume, the outside sounds do effectively disappear.

>mfw I need help buying IEMs but the animeposters just keep arguing

>>62447355
>>62447085
>I'm over 30
>kek, haters gonna hate.
le /r/anime weeb XD

>>62447480
>le /r/anime weeb XD
Haven't been through /a/ in a while. I don't think I've ever posted in /r/anime. You're probably thinking about somebody else.

>>62447512
/a/ IS /r/anime nowadays
jesus fucking christ I came here with a simple question and instead got in another pointless argument with le ironic weeb

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>>62447024

>>62447088
are you asking for help to build your website filled with amazon affiliate links?

>>62447644

Yes.

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>>62447432
IEMs are shit. Have an anime.

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>>62446949
ER-4SR

>>62445955
just buy them for $190-200 used m8

>>62448358
Don't want to risk getting some fucked up headphones or fakes

>>62448444
hahaha no the market is flooded with them because they are over hyped, and you're not going to get fakes. there's a lot of good quality refurbished ones for $200 on ebay
>>62446707
>I've tried them and thought they were really underwhelming so lets try this again
kek

What kind of headphones do you recommend using in the office?

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I'm planning on getting a portable amp/dac to be used with my headphones and my mac book. I'm debating if I should get the Oppo H2SE or the Chord Mojo.

I know the Mojo is nearly $200 more and will require an apple camera kit but if it's significantly better than the oppo I can wait a bit longer and get the mojo instead.

Any input?

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>>62448541
>portable for laptop use
Chances are you do not need more than a Fulla 2, and that's $99.

>>62447545
you're a fucking moron lol. you were the one who commented on his related pic and started an argument with him

>>62448596
>>62448541
dragonfly's are far more convenient if we're talking specifically laptops

>>62448596
I have a pair of MEE Pinnacle P1 and a pair of Mayflower Fostex T50RP so I want something portable that'll give me the best experience below $500.

>>62448651
fiio a5 is the best price / performance then

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>>62448650
>>62448596
I'll also be using it with my phone. I just saw the RHA dacamp L1. May look into that one as well.

>>62448651
>t50rp
Fulla 2 will drive that to 120dB+, that is, absolutely overkill.
>mee Pinnacle M1
No fucking idea.

>>62448693
that one is expensive af. the a5 has nearly 1W of power and you're paying $80 used up to $120 new. For comparison the oppo h2 does 300mw while the chord does around 500mw if i recall correctly?

>>62448541
Chord mojo, oppo is chinkshit sabre dac

>>62448650 >>62448693
>dragonfly's are far more convenient if we're talking specifically laptops
Uh no, they are not. They're fucking dongles, which means unless you've got some usb extension cable, it's attached directly to the laptop, protruding and annoying if you are trying to use a mouse or something else on that side of the laptop.

>>62448727
I know it's crazy expensive but this is a reenlistment gift to myself so I want to get something nice, not $1000 nice but $500 nice.

>>62448756
My only thing with the Chord is you need the apple camera kit and looks like other sorts of cables. I don't want to have to spend another $150 just buying cables and adapters.

I'm really liking the look of the RHA L1 but I'm going to have to do more research on it

>>62448789
>They're fucking dongles, which means unless you've got some usb extension cable
relax. I prefer those and I'm sure it depends on preference. Having multiple devices and wires everywhere is a pain for me for travel and I would rather just use a dongle

>>62448830
Ok, fair enough. I'm the opposite, I drag my fulla 2 along and it's bliss to have it as something more "separate".

>>62448792
>so I want to get something nice, not $1000 nice but $500 nice.
it's a bit bulky so Idk what your needs are, but the idsd black label is end game desktop amp/dac that can be used "portable". $500 on the mark

>>62448863
I'd say $500 is insane for a portable DAC (which will no doubt get abused), and that $99 fulla2 is more than enough (as in audibly transparent) for that sort of use, but what do I know.

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>>62448851
also
>trying to use a mouse or something else on that side of the laptop
>not using a vim browser extension and being liberated from the trackpad/mouse

>>62448923
I agree, but anon wants a $500 dac/amp and that's his perogative.

>>62448792
For the mojo all you need is this $30 lightning to usb from what I can tell

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>>62448951
B-but I play games too.
(btw: steam works surprisingly fine with i3 as wm)

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>>62448923
The SMSL idea on massdrop now is even cheaper, smaller, and is measurably transparent.

>>62448988
>btw: steam works surprisingly fine with i3 as wm
that's because i3 is the greatest, no other one is as mature and configurable

>>62449017
>The SMSL idea on massdrop
>$5 dac chip

>>62449030
I actually like dwm's "tag window into workspaces" rather than "move to workspace" feature. Too bad dwm sucks at everything else, to extremes such as needing third party patches just to get UTF-8 support.

>>62449063
t. Audiophool

>>62449077
>to extremes such as needing third party patches just to get UTF-8 support.
LOL.

>>62449097
no, I line out from my motherboard and phone into my $300 amp into my $500-1000 headphones

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>>62449063
Cheap, sure. But that thing is puni AF
>32ohm:35.8mW(THD=0.1%)
>64ohm:31.6mW(THD=0.1%)
vs fulla2
>16 Ohms: 550mW RMS per channel
>32 ohms: 360mW RMS per channel
>50 ohms: 230mW RMS per channel
>300 ohms: 40mW RMS per channel

>>62449119
Probably measures worse than the "$5 dac chip". No comment on audibility.

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> stock headband
> stock pads
ISHYGDDT

>>62449137
probably, but if I can't hear it I don't care. And if that's the case why would I buy a $5 dac repacked for $80-$150? I'm not falling for those jewish tricks
>>62449132
>>Cheap, sure. But that thing is puni AF
see above

>>62448541
why is it so ugly?

>>62449077
it's 2000 lines of code, it's meant to be minimalistic and for you to make your own changes
if you're not ready to change more than config.h then you are not ready for dwm

>>62449132
It's good for mobile use because it won't drain your battery like the Fulla.
>>62449165
The chip in the fulla 2 costs the same so even then your comparison is retarded.

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>>62449176
I'm aware of dwm and suckless in general.
No, refusing to support UTF-8 to "keep it simple" is not sane, it's just retarded.
Japanese numbers as workspace names is pretty basic shit ;P

>>62449176
or you know, just use a modern language that has unicode support built in and isn't as error prone like C is. I'd prefer if my window manager didn't crash

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my hd600s are so fucking comfy lads

>>62449205
>It's good for mobile use because it won't drain your battery like the Fulla.
The fulla2 has a separate usb port that's just for power, so it can be powered by a phone charger, your laptop or whatever, while using the main port with a OTG or newfag cable on the phone as DAC.
I do use mine to play deresute and such at work, but I just use the line in. Power does of course come from the laptop.

>>62449205
>The chip in the fulla 2 costs the same
the same applies to the fulla 2 and all the other budget dacs being overpriced memes. Do you have a noisy system or your noise floor isn't low enough? No? Then the only reason you need a fulla 2 is for the power, which you can get with amps

>>62449206
why would they add it when there are patches for it on the project's page?
>>62449215
You, however, do not understand what suckless or dwm is.
Don't get me wrong, if I were to write my own WM, I would have included UTF-8 support and possibly written it in something else than C, but you're comparing apples to oranges here.

>>62449235
Being tethered to the wall doesn't really qualify as "mobile" in my opinion. The Fulla is best describes as a portable desktop DAC/amp.

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>>62449240
The fulla2 dac sounds better than my work laptop and my home's main motherboard. The latter has immediately apparent issues (noise).
Having a built-in DAC just ensures you're not being fucked by your computer's sound, and adds to the niftyness of the fulla2.

>>62449249
>you're comparing apples to oranges here.
what I'm really saying is that C is shit.
>>62449281
>The fulla2 dac sounds better than my work laptop
volume matched with decibel meter or voltage reader?

>>62449293
C is only shit if you don't know what C is good for.

>>62449310
and what would that be?

>>62449326
Writing very fast code. Code that is not far from manually optimized assembly, while being a whole lot easier and more productive to use.
Why do you think <insert any successful programming language here> is implemented in C or C++?

>>62449293
It sounds better even if I make the laptop's output louder (handicap!).
>C is shit.
You're welcome to rewrite it in rust, kek.

>Budget
€100-€200
>Location
EU
>Source
laptop/phone
>Type of headphone
whatever
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
top tier
>Sound signature
decent over
>Past headphones
AT meme's

NEED some great wireless headphones that are alright for gym shit and alright for music, that are pretty much indestructible

does any good brand do something like this?

i know this probably disgusts everyone here but pls help x

>>62449374
>Writing very fast code.
that's a predictable response, but it's not true.
>Code that is not far from manually optimized assembly, while being a whole lot easier and more productive to use.
It needs to be manually optimized because C code lends to more undefined behavior which makes it hard for the compiler to do optimizations. It's specifically the reason distro's never use -O3, things crash far too often.
>Why do you think <insert any successful programming language here> is implemented in C or C++
why are a lot of things in enterprise programmed in java over python?

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>>62449412
>great
>wireless

>>62449447
the wire will get in the way when i'm shagging ur mum x

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>>62449428
Take it to the programming thread. Don't forget your programming socks.

>>62449428
>that's a predictable response, but it's not true.
I'm still waiting for you to back that up.
>It needs to be manually optimized because C code lends to more undefined behavior which makes it hard for the compiler to do optimizations. It's specifically the reason distro's never use -O3, things crash far too often.
All code needs to be manually optimized, but if you've ever written assembly you know that manually optimizing assembly is very different from optimizing a high level language like C.
>why are a lot of things in enterprise programmed in java over python?
Because it's easy. A lot of enterprise software is terrible. Take it from someone who works with it almost every day.

>>62449400
>It sounds better even if I make the laptop's output louder
that's an amp related issue, not dac. If it's noisy or has a high noise floor then it's a dac problem, or other problems like groundloop
>>62449500
>I'm still waiting for you to back that up.
lmao. You made the claim that C is "very fast code". Faster than what? interpreted or JIT languages? the only comparison you should be making is C vs other system languages. So prove to me that C is faster than other low level languages (C++, rust, etc). go fuck yourself if you're going to tell me disprove something you haven't proved yourself.

>>62449486
this

>>62449548
>that's an amp related issue, not dac.
vs using line-in of the fulla2. Not directly at laptop.
Directly on laptop it's even worse, as it has issues feeding the HD380.

>>62449589
a clipping amp / underpowered amp is going to sound worse than a lineout from a dac which is fixed. that being said the argument is pointless anyways, a shitty dac is a shitty dac and it can happen. good motherboards do just fine and just because your laptop had a shit dac doesn't mean all laptops, and all motherboards, have shit dacs

>>62449548
>lmao. You made the claim that C is "very fast code". Faster than what? interpreted or JIT languages? the only comparison you should be making is C vs other system languages. So prove to me that C is faster than other low level languages (C++, rust, etc). go fuck yourself if you're going to tell me disprove something you haven't proved yourself.
I'm drunk now and not willing to go through a whole lot of effort to prove you wrong, but I've made comparisons between different C compilers and a few different languages.
GCC with optimization won by far when it comes to speed, TCC won at size, CLANG was mediocre at both.
All other languages were worse at both, the ones i tested include C++, D, python and more.
I'd probably prefer to write my code in D just in general, but C is faster. even when D uses C functions.
I've never used Rust, but if it has native UTF-8 support it's by definition slower than C at handling ASCII text.

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>>62449617
>and just because your laptop had a shit dac doesn't mean all laptops, and all motherboards, have shit dacs
Correct. And yet, with a fulla2's DAC, I don't have to give a fuck about that. That's the point.

>>62449640
>I've never used Rust, but if it has native UTF-8 support it's by definition slower than C at handling ASCII text.
that's a stupid distinction to make, considering rust is designed for safe multithreading and has the ability to easily make multithreaded code which will be quicker and safer C, but you're concerned about ascii text

and then you compare C benchmarks to D and python which are obviously languages not designed with pure speed in mind. these are meaningless comparisons

I'm done arguing programming, we are shitting up this thread

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works for me

>>62449682
>I don't have to give a fuck about that
I mean, some people pay $1000-2000 for preamps just so they don't have to worry that a volume knob is messing with their $5000 dac/amp that they bought so they don't have to worry that the audio quality is being messed with

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>>62449894
Yep, but the Fulla2 is a nifty box that does everything at $99.

>>62449927
to be honest I'll probably end up doing the same, I might get an emotiva a-100 for the 50w headphone out and I'm worried about the noise floor that can come with a -20db preamp so I might end up buying a jds lab's dac with it

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>*volume scratch*
>*freeze frame*
yep that's me, you're probably wondering how I got here

>>62449969
>what is contact spray

>>62450013
>what is build quality inspection

>>62450030
Any pot can get scratchy over time. That's what contact spray is for.

>>62449968
(different anon) What are you going to get engraved on your DAC?

>>62450044
>over time
how about right out of the box?

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>>62450127
if I were to get it engraved it would have to be the 4.5 mat from tatami galaxy

Are the Sennheiser HD 4.30 good for it's price? Looking for headphones that block ambient noise, have a simple but elegant look and are comfortable to wear over a longer period of time.

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>>62450130
Mine is still fine fwiw.

Got a pair of fidelio x2s, every now and then it the audio will randomly only play in the left channel, anyone heard of this happening before?

>>62451918
Could be several things. Could be the cable. Could be the headphones' female jack. Could be your source's female jack. Could be the wiring connecting the left earcup to the right earcup.

>>62451918
this happens in tons of headphones, it usually has to do with the connection to the left driver

>>62451992
sorry, I meant connection to the right driver on the left cup

>>62452007
Can I fix it myself or do I need to return it?

>>62452028
fixing that issue is one of the easiest soldering jobs you can do, if you don't know how to solder it would be a good learning experience

For the bluetooth-cucked around here: https://hackaday.com/2017/09/14/bluetooth-vulnerability-affects-all-major-os/
What to do: Disable bluetooth everywhere right now. Then calmly read about the vuln and mitigations.

>>62452136
Nobody cares nerd

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>>62445883
My roommate just tried on my HD600s and said they sound the same as his gaymen headset.

>>62453277
pic + timestamp

>>62453488
of what?

>>62453498
HD600 and feet

>>62453504
thats a lot of work because I gotta pull out my phone and then find this thread on my phone. Hard work

>>62453516
Fine, just feet then. With programming socks.

>>62453522
Sadly my aliexpress order of socks hasn't come in yet

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>>62453537

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for me its the hd600s

>>62448541
get the mojo - it is highly regarded so you'll be happy.

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I just stuck $18 worth of Sorbothane Isolation feet on my PlayStation. Yay!

>>62452136
I'm already patched unlike you, you cuckold

>>62453712
are you the one anon who pretends to run HD800s off his playstation

>>62453721
>pretends
It's a happenings. Enjoying Dust Brothers atm.

>>62453752
i don't believe u kiddo, but if it gets you (you)s, you do you

>>62453760
>you (you)s, you do you
the ratio of (you)s to yous in that sentence is 3 yous to one (you)s. impressive. have a (you)

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>>62453760

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> Buy new IEMs
> Super excited
> Listen for maybe an hour
> Realize I'm tired of my same old music
> No motivation to discover new music
> Sit in silence most of the day
Anyone else knows this feel?

>>62447432
ER4SR.

>Budget
$300-$400
>Location
Chile
>Source
PC/JDS Labs the element
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
hd650

>>62446707
Fidelio X2

>>62454851
wena conchetumare
Oppo PM-3 or MDR 7506
If you want to spend a bit more, Beyerdynamic t5p - available on mediaplayer.

>>62454117
All too fucking well.

just got my kz zst's in the mail. waiting for some better comply tips but they already sound better than my se215's

>>62455321
You should try ZS5s, theyre a real step up from ZSTs.

Hello /hpg/,

What are some DAC+Amp pairings for HD700s? Budget is around $200-$500

>>62455624
idsd black label

I heard the Fidelio X1 has a shitty cable.
Is there a quality difference if you get a new/better cable?

I'm kind of a dummy so bear with me here. My daughter yanked too hard on the 3.5mm plug on my headphones and now I only get sound from one channel. This is fixable, right? If so, how?

>>62455836
soldering iron, resolder cable to driver

>>62455834
sound quality? no

>>62455794
Thanks for the recommendation. Looks good but im a bit concerned about purchasing it because of a review.

"I have used these extensively with a senheiser HD700 as well. I have to say it is a decent match, although the highs can be fatiguing and i couldn't listen to all my music with the HD700s using the IFI. i would caution against getting the ifi if you're gonna pair it with a HD700."

Although, I always hear the HD700 highs are fatiguing, but have never been by it.

>>62456067
>I always hear the HD700 highs are fatiguing
yes, and an amp won't help. you're not going to "pair" and hd700, you eq an hd700

Got monies for school and paid for all the school related materials already.I have some extra cash left over. Should i go for it and get the Schiit stack with 600s? Current headphones are Monoprice m560.

Shiit fulla 2 or fiio a5 for hd650?

I should stop going to head-fi. That site is turning me into an audiophool

>>62456997
I want to know too

>>62456997
>>62457490
A5's would give more headroom in terms of power. 40mW @ 300 Ohm on Full2 vs 150mW @ 300 Ohm the A5.

>Budget
60-80€ (<2000 CZK)
>Location
Czechia (heureka.cz compares prices here)
>Source
Nothing special
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
See below.
>Sound signature
Really don't know, Razer Kraken sounded good to me, so something like that should be ok with me.
>Past headphones
Razer Kraken (kinda comfy, looking for something similiar to them.)

>>62455624

Don't be a zero: bin that senn!

Alright, this is for a mate
>Budget
$200 AUD ($160 USD)
>Location
Australia
>Source
Plugging them straight into a computer & into phone
>Type of headphone
Full-sized over-ear wired headphones
>Open or closed
Closed, unless it's something really special
>Comfort level
Pretty important, mate will be using them for hours at his computer
>Sound signature
Doesn't really care
>Past headphones
He's only ever had those sick looking gaymer headsets before :P

>>62455016
i've considered the PM-3 but amazon doesn't send them to chile

>>62458190
HD569 or MSR7.
Alternatively, look into HD380 Pro if you need very high isolation.

So are the Fostex TH-X00s any good? I have Fidelio X2s right now and I'm looking for something different around the $400-$600 price range.

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I'm not posting the name of the headphone on purpose. I'm looking for people who actually know about audio to comment on this FR. What does it tell you?

>>62460012
Planar... too poorly matched for Stax... Pajeze or Chifiman

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I am about to buy an Hd598 from Kijiji. The seller said it's brand new and still factory sealed. However the pictures from the ad looks like it's fake with the headband doesn't look like anything i see online. Can you guys please help me identify the products? Thank you guys so much, here are the links to the pictures.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/wZ4AAOSwX0NZvNr-/$_59.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/JEoAAOSwCV5ZvNrx/$_59.jpg
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/zsYAAOSwtRBZuxUP/$_27.JPG
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/GoQAAOSwH05ZuxUS/$_27.JPG
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/8vAAAOSw9CtZuxUW/$_27.JPG

>>62460091
I didn't want you to guess the model. I'll post that soon. I wanted to know what it says about the sound of the headphone.

>>62460101
Overall it looks quite good but it would need another 3 dB in the DF range to stop it being passed over after FOTM.

>>62460209
So by quite good you mean that it's a fairly neutral response? I think the bass looks rather good but im more interested in the treble. Are they bright? Dark?

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>just bought these
How bad did I fuck up?

>>62460237
Depends on

-whether you assess that treble spike to be a valid measurement
-your contention on diffuse field equalization.

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>>62460284
>>62460237
Oh, and they'll probably sound objectionable with that 3 dB mismatch around 1 kHz.

Get Stax.

>>62460284
>>62460316
>>62460209
>>62460091
So they're not planar, audeze, or hifiman. They're the AKG k267 tiesto.

>>62460329
I suppose the wiggle at 150 Hz gives it away.

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What do you guys think of audio technicas? Didnt see any replies of them. Why is that?

>>62460092

From pictures 3, and 4. There is another component or part on the headband that I dont think should be there. I want to convince myself that it's just the way the photos are taken, but I guess they are fake, arent they... I really need to hear someone say it to make certain of my disbelief

>>62460486

Audio-Technica AD Series are quite well regards from my research, but I remember zReview bashed on m50x quite a bit

>>62460578
What was so bad in them? What ive heard these are the kind at that price range

>>62460486
Depends on the model, AD900x is recommended from time to time, usually when people want large stage on and easy to drive headphone, the original AD700 is a classic, many also like the M40X.
M50 used to be very popular here back in the day, we actually had a Lot of V6 vs M50 shitposting too.
With the M50X it lost popularity on the /hpg/ due to being far to expensive for the sound delivered.

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>>62460486

I use them. They are good headphones.

>>62460092
Fakes of HD598 do exist. They're poorly made. Usually in fakes the headband is attached with a single screw rather than 2, they break easily and ofc the sound is shit. Did read an article back in the day about the fakes.
If you can afford it, it's best if you go HD579 instead, which is basically identical to HD599 and an improvement over HD598. Else, for HD598, just get HD598se/sr from amazon. These are amazon-exclusive versions, black instead of beige, otherwise identical.

>>62461448
That's an interesting keyboard. What's it?

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>>62461679

leopold 980M

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>>62461700
I see. Kinda cute.

>>62461727

Recently switched from using corsair Kseries and it was a very good decision

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>>62461799
The k70 is not bad (I got one for free because reasons).
I prefer my das keyboard to it though, mostly because it has this cold feeling to it, and keys make less noise.
Both keyboards with mx brown switches.

>>62461826

I used k70s for years, got drunk and ruined a few of them. I have my 980 and last corsair in mx red switches, the leopold just feels a lot better. I realized I wasn't becoming shittier at typing (I don't use computers nearly as much as I once did) but that the k70 just made me type worse.

>>62460272
wat model

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>>62461899
I blame the mx red there, more than anything else.
mx red are just eww... the "dip" tactile feedback browns do have is a must.

>>62461952

But they are fantastic on this leopold... I have the smaller leopold 660m in blue

Is there any other indicator besides dbSPL to know if a certain amplifer is good or not for a certain pair of headphones?

For instance the E10K is capable of 111.5dbSPL on the HD650. Is that good or are there any other numbers that I should be looking at?

>>62461654

That's what I read about the fakes too that's making me so skeptical about the purchase. I guess I will wait for the se to go on sale then. I'm on a budget so cant really afford the HD579. Thanks for your input.

>>62461974
I'd suggest using camelcamelcamel dot com or some other amazon pricetracker, and setting up a few alarms for HD579 and the 598se and sr.

>>62461974
Get something that can't be faked.

>>62461971
The e10k is known to distort and be generally shitty. Get a fulla 2 if you can at all afford it.
>111.5db SPL
That seems a little too high an estimate for a e10k on that load, where did you get that from?
Anyway, if you're looking at effective max SPL with an amp for shopping amps, you probably want to buy something that can reach 115dB. See: http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-power.html
Other than that, re: your question, you should be looking at output impedance. It should be smaller than 1/10th of the impedance of the actual load (the headphones). When it's not, it might affect frequency response, as depending on the headphone, the impedance can vary a lot throughout frequency. The HD598 is infamous in that sense, since it has a massive peak (think 7 times) somewhere in impedance vs frequency.
>HD650
The fulla 2 can handle it but only as long as you don't go near max volume; it'll distort there due to lack of power. Do not even think about e10k for that one, as that's way weaker than the fulla 2.
For a HD650, it's worth considering the magni 2. A popular option is to get the fulla2 and upgrade at some point by attaching a magni2 via the preamp aux output of the fulla2. Some anons that hang around here have such a setup.

>>62458025
w-what?

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>>62462176
I already have the e10k. Bought it years ago.

>known to distort
Where can I see measruments?

> you probably want to buy something that can reach 115dB

afaik no usb powered amp is capable of that with the 650s

>as long as you don't go near max volume
I listen to music on the number 3 on my e10k on low gain.

>>62462254
Ignore his nonsense.
But likely to do with the fact HD700 is very miss or hit for people, where most people just dislike it. The FR is weird.
>good amp
Schiit Stack or Jotunheim.

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What are some good earbuds for commutes and general use? I'm a normie, and I don't really know what I need.

Ill usually just be listening to podcasts, or classical music

Good build quality is a must, over sound quality, something I can use everyday.

I'm looking at the massdrop blue box with the MEE audio right now, but it looks like the build quality on them sucks.

Trying to keep the cost as low as possible, under 25 ish.

>>62460012
No fucking upper mids.

>>62462308
>calculator
I see. Well, the max output of an amp generally depends on the impedance of the load, and the *how* it behaves vs impedance depends on the actual amp. It can't be estimated from one value, but you generally need a table to interpolate from.
>https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2012/01/fiio-e10-dac.html
Here's one for the e10.
>https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-650/with/fiio/e10k
Another similar result based on using 32ohm output to approximate. Unfortunately, no other values to interpolate from. I'm sure it doesn't output anywhere near that much power to a 300ohm load.
>where can I see measurements
https://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e10k-classic-reborn/2/
It's not flat, regardless of bass boost on or off. Some anons here own the e10k and other amps such as the magni2 and fulla2, and have reported the e10k does just sound bad compared to these.

>>62453277
Let him use them for a few days, and then it'll be fun when he tries to get back to his gaymen and they sound shitty AF.

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>>62462398
>under $25 earbuds

>good build

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messing around with spectroid app

fulla 2 max volume driving HE400i's

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modi multibit + vali 2 driving HE400i's

max volume on low gain

>>62453712
That's not some sex toy right?

>>62456997
Magni 2.

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fulla 2 knob at roughly 2:30

SHP9500 or HD598?

>>62462978
598, no competition here

>>62462398
kz zs5 from aliexpress.

>>62462987
Are SHP9500 kind of a budget headphone?

>>62460486
I use them for nearly 3 years and so far have no complaints other than the skin ripping apart. Although it might be the fault of my neglect, excessive sweating or both.

I guess this is kind of a weird question, but I have a fiio k1 for a hd598 because my pc's onboard broke and felt like using on my ps4
all the surround sound is reversed and comes out on the wrong side, why is it doing that?

>>62455900
One time this happened to a cheapo set of computer speakers I had. I fixed it by splicing the connector from an aux cable I had onto the wire. I just stripped the wire and twisted the wires onto each other and used electrical tape to seal it all up. Looked terrible but it kept the speakers going for about a year.

>>62462978
The SHP9500 is very good at the prices it can be found, but
HD600 > HD579 > HD598/se/sr > HD558 > SHP9500.

>>62463022
I had a pair of HD 280s that I threw away after 3 years of use because the earpads got so nasty and torn up that I didn't want people to even see them sitting on my computer, much less take them out in public. Only found out today that you can buy replacement earpads. Lmao I'm a dummy.

Just ordered a pair of HD 558s, my first pair of open back headphones. Reviews look great and I'm not a musician or anything so it looks like a good value for the price ($96 with free shipping).

>>62462777
Hey man, ya never know, everyone seems to pull low prices out of their ass on chink site.

Can you tell me at what price point I can expect good build?

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>>62462804
Interesting app. This is Element driving Elear at low gain, 2 o clock.

>>62463810
Can you really trust your phone mic to make this kind of measurements?

>>62464145
No, but it's neat. My noise floor is also super high here.

>>62462997
Is it bass heavy? I'm more interested in neutral

Anyone know a good amp thats compatible with a PC around $50? I have a HD600s. And pls spare me the shit talk of my headphones idc

>>62464747
Congratulations on owning the best full-sized headphones at any price.

Thinking of getting the Audio-technica ath-ad500x.
I can only find them at around €140 here (netherlands), but they're $76 on amazon (US), whats the warranty situation like if I buy them from amazon?

Also, what's a good dac for around the same price? FiiO E10K? SMSL M3?

>>62464747
Sabaj pha1

Not exaaaactly a headphone related question, but you guys seem to know audio shit. What would be the best way of connecting speakers with stripped cables to a pc's 3.5mm port? I'm guessing I need an amp of some sort? What would be a good choice considering the speakers are fairly large, but not really top quality?

>>62462846
They work on speakers too. Good for desk monitors.

>>62465005
Hifimediy 9018 dac for about $60.

>Budget
$400-600
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, DAC/AMP
>Type of headphone
Full sized/Over ear
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Comfort is sort of important
>Sound signature
Neutral, accurate,
>Past headphones
M50s, Fidelio X2s
Just looking for something new to listen to. Want something more neutral sounding. The HE-560s seem like a good deal that range or the AD2000xs

>>62464747
DAC-X6 is about the one choice you get, if you want to go that cheap on a dac+amp and still drive HD600 well.
That device's flaw is its high output impedance, but it's many times as low as necessary for the high impedance HD600.

>>62465328
HD600 (as-is) or HD800 (w/EQ).

>>62465488
SMSL SA50 does 50w outputs on the back, just connect using some banana plugs. that would be cheaper

>>62465328
stax auction

>>62465328
What will you be driving them with?

>>62465728
I have a schiit stack right now. If I get something on the more extreme end I'll probably end up buying a new amp/dac later down the line.

>>62465728
Winamp.

>>62465771
sell your x2s and m50 and upgrade to a teak desu. direct upgrade

>>62465771
Stax

Ssshh.... no more tears; no more upgrades.

>>62465771
I like my HE400i's the 560 from what I'm reading has better sound stage and maybe a bit more detailed but 2x the price.

>>62465971
That may be, but are you willing to give money that lolcow hifiman CEO?

>>62466012
Yea I guess my main concern is how they sound not the designer / CEO.

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So I got a pair of Bose QC35 headphones.
They're good when on a plane, or a train, etc. But I just can't seem to connect them to my PC via bluetooth.

Is there some sort of special set-up for them?
It's kind of confusing me as it's so incredibly easy to connect it to a mobile device.

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>>62465328
For 200 more you can have an Aeon that have both bass and are neutral, also closed comfy and light playnars. I feel like I am an unpaid shill for them but they look so nice and their FR looks smooth but with bass, didn't listen to them have HD600 WANT to try Aeon. Otherwise HD600/650 are a good choice, you will finally hear vocals with them after X2, try to find a store to hear both of them but as a warning after X2 you might want to EQ down 3K bump by 1-2 db in case it's too forward for you.

Someone got Aeons recently here, how are they?

>>62467786
> tfw I'll never have the kind of money to buy headphones like these

True suffering. The 650s already made me sell a kidney

>>62467885
>The 650s already made me sell a kidney
$200 made you sell a kidney?

>>62467912
300€

>>62446967
>that encode
WTF anon

>>62454117
Listen to idols anon.

>>62467985
oh, I'm sorry your government steals from you anon, but that's socialism for you

>>62468036
Probably a retarded streamfag who took the screenshot

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>>62468036
>>>that encode
Shit dtv cap + reencode. That's what I did watch that day.
Better versions are likely available by now, but they typically take days vs shit versions.

>>62468061
You don't wanna know how much the AD900x costs

>>62468084
if you like audio you just need to move to either japan or usa :^)

>>62468132
Price wise that's true for most brands including speakers

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>>62468142
>including speakers
Also amps

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>>62467786
Looks like a $180 ath-msr kind of. The bump in the upper mids is back a little and a tad bit higher. Looking at the raw responses anyway. Doesn't look like it's worth 4 times the amount of money.

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>>62468081
Meant shit STREAM crap + reencode. Sigh.
Decent DTV is what's available a while after.

>>62454117
>M7PRO
how good are those? i have the m6 pros and i want to upgrade

Budget
<200€

Location
Germany, Amazon.de / geizhals.de

Source
Whatever cheap soundcard you recommend.

Type of headphone
Full

Open or closed
Open

Comfort level
Important

Past headphones
Currently using a G930. Shittiest Headset I've bought to date and the reason for this post.

Currently looking at the DT990 250Ohm as they look really comfy. Any reason why I shouldn't get them?

>>62469574
>why not get DT990
v-shaped FR with unholy treble spike.
>what should I get
HD579.

>>62469574
>Any reason why I shouldn't get them?
Treble for seniors with bad hearing

Have any of you ever had your headphones stolen when using them in public? I always worry I'm gonna get mugged or something.

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>Use ATH-M50s for 7 years
>decide to purchase the Sony MDR-7506 for portable use
I suddenly do understand what everyone meant by "niggerbass".

>>62469627
>HD579.
Different anon.

i just checked the frequency graph for these out of curiosity. Went to check the 569, 599 and other 5XXs too and it made me realize something. Did Sennheiser simply abandon the 600s/650s sound signature? Ignoring the more bassy and cheaper cans like the 518, all of these higher priced mid range have some treble peaks (some more pronounced, others barely) and as you go along the range line the treble peaks start to go higher like the hd700 and hd800

This makes me wonder if the 600s and 650s will forever remain without any further evolution in their sound. They're very good for sure but sennheiser haven't tried improving them at all and instead opted to go for the more brighter sound. I've only seen the AT R70x trying to compete with the HD650s

>>62469049
Never heard the M6, jumped on these because the sound signature is dark and I'm loving them so far.
The bass is easily the best I've heard on IEMs, although I haven't tried many super expensive models (MA750, Momentum 2 IE)
Easily my favorites, but I'm not sure if they're worth 100 extra over the M6 unless you're specifically looking for a dark signature

>>62469811
Do you feel they're too bright or an actual improvement or something else? Did they completely replace the M50s for you or do you miss the bass for more fun stuff like electronic music, movies, games or whatever

>>62469811
What thinkpad is that

Please tell me

> Ordered sheepskin pads from Brainwavz on the 4th
> Just today got an email that they left Hong Kong
So anyone knows how long it fucking takes?

>>62469811

ATH-M50 is master race. There is a couple as good, but none are better.

Speaking as a music producer (serious music, not niggerjew bullshit).

>>62469877
Probably over a month

>>62469814
HD599 is a HD598 with better bass extension, pretty much.
HD579 has virtually identical FR, but is way cheaper, which makes it the better purchase. On top of that, reviewers say HD579 sounds better, which is amusing.

>>62469887
>but none are better.
M40x

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>>62469845
They are extremely bright but the bass is on a different level. Didn't expect closed headphones to have such "volume" in the lower ends. It's almost a bit too much for headphones that are often described as somewhat neutral and good for monitoring.

>>62469871
x201

>>62469907
Thanks man

>>62469898
Very good headphones. Nowhere near the crystalline bass definition I'm getting on m50's.

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Any decent chinky MMCX wireless cables?
There's a really nice looking one from Westone but it's like 150 bucks.

>>62469887
>ATH-M50 is master race. There is a couple as good, but none are better.
you're an idiot, fostex series are a 100x better v shaped can than the m50

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>>62445955
>>62448358
you could also get used hd580's for around $100 if you're lucky since they're about the same as the 600's

>>62469907
>It's almost a bit too much for headphones that are often described as somewhat neutral and good for monitoring
the sony's are bright af with garbage bass, they are a shitty industry meme

>>62470005

My quads don't lie bitch.

Fostex is meh. Runs less hot than AT, maybe you prefer that.

I use godlike converters though. Maybe I'm wrong.

>>62470063
>Maybe I'm wrong.
you are. all the AT cans have flabby bass compared to a TH-X00, teak, or th900. they can't even kick without distorting
>Runs less hot than AT, maybe you prefer that.
no it doesn't, you haven't heard them. there are a ton of different woods and some are hotter or bassier than others. I'm not talking about the planar cans I'm talking about the biocellulose

>>62470093
>they can't even kick without distorting
Are we talking about the same AT series here?

>>62470093
>TH-X00
Man, the measurements make these look like they're god tier for the price

>>62470115
>Are we talking about the same AT series here?
yes. are we talking about the fostex variants which can *actually* kick?
>the measurements
look at the measurements for the teak

>>62470093
>TH-X00

Audiophile garbage, wouldn't make me a cent. M50s make me money. I thought you were referring to RP's which are not half bad.

What converters/amp you using bro?
Antelope zen studio here.

>>62470126
>>62470120

>>62470146
>Audiophile garbage, wouldn't make me a cent
>M50s make me money.
>RP's which are not half bad.
holy crap, you're actually this stupid. you win, every sentence in this comment reaches new levels of dumb

>>62470175

Come back to me when you mix a chamber orchestra recording on audiophile crap with "sweetened" mids.

Tell me what the mastering engineer thinks. gl.

>>62470205
i'm fucking dying, you would use an m50 to master that over anything else

thanks for the laugh, have a (you) my dumb little newfriend

>>62470294

to mix, not master. I do what I do.

have a MUH KICKS, my nigger friend.

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How much of a meme is this for a minimal set up?

>>62470521
good meme if you don't like cables, don't bother with the red. digital volume control is better than analog as well and introduces less THD

>>62470521
Fulla 2 and SMSL idea are both better options

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Trying to help an AUS friend. Suggested this Antlion mic for his current headphones because they worked well for me, but his is static-y as fuck.

https://clyp.it/zg4y15et

The actual voice quality sounds nice, but the ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ overtakes it. Any ideas what could be causing it? Some kind of interference? Thanks

Failing that, any suggestions on mic+headphones or headsets for him? Please keep in mind he's Australian so the choices are very limited.

>>62471491
Has he tried plugging it into different things like a cellphone, a tablet or another computer?

>>62471544
https://clyp.it/gx2tdaos

It sounds much better. Any idea what about his PC could be fucking it? I just helped him build it so it's a brand new (1 month old) PC. We've tried the front and rear ports. Thanks

>>62471744
Who knows, it could be a million issues including a defective motherboard or poorly insulated audio interfaces that introduce the hissing noise.
He dun goofed

>>62471491
Grab one of those USB sound cards off Ebay
Not much else to be done, his mobo input is probably dogshit like mine
They're like $2-5

>>62470000
M40x > M50x and it's not even close, Ry'mone.

>>62470521
I think the Dragonfly has the right idea regarding volume control and I would like to see more DACs copy it: software-controlled analog volume control. All of the fidelity benefits of analog volume control minus the issues of scratchiness and channel imbalance which come from analog pots.

>>62470578
>digital volume control is better than analog
Wrong.

>>62469907
>Didn't expect closed headphones to have such "volume" in the lower ends. It's almost a bit too much for headphones that are often described as somewhat neutral and good for monitoring.
MDR-V6/MDR-7506 are very close to diffuse field neutral but will be perceived as V-shaped.

>>62472334
Would this fix interference if that's the problem?

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/ugreen-30143-usb-20-external-35mm-sound-card-adapter-ac07172

>>62462978
HD579

>>62465005
SHP9500S and HD558 are better options at that approximate price point. AD series is a poor physical design with poor ergonomics.

>>62465139
Dayton DTA-1 from parts-express.com or Lepai 2020TI.

>>62465328
HD600, obviously. This isn't even a question.

>>62469574
HD579
> Any reason why I shouldn't get (DT990)
Melanin-enhanced bass and ear-raping treble. No mids.

>>62469814
>i just checked the frequency graph for these out of curiosity.
Where? Keep in mind that rtings and Reference Audio Analyzer aren't exactly paragons of credibility.

>>62465894
HD600 > any Stax

>>62472467
It won't 'fix' it but it'll definitely improve it, I can't speak specifically about that one but I've used the Sabrent(s) off Ebay and the 'official' antlion one https://www.mwave.com.au/product/antlion-audio-35mm-to-usb-adapter-ac08269
They work well enough, nowhere near as good as the audio you see in videos as they plug them into proper interfaces
oh yeah there's also this el cheapo one, this is the one I got originally but I lost it shortly after, I don't remember how good the quality was but it was at least passable

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-2-0-to-3D-AUDIO-SOUND-CARD-EXTERNAL-ADAPTER-VIRTUAL-5-1-CH-Headphone-MIC-/160951418376?hash=item257973be08

>>62472632 new thread

>>62472449
lmao no, digital doesn't introduce thd, analog does unless you have an insanely expensive attenuator

>>62454117

Pandora. All you do is enter an artist or song and BAM! You have music based on your tastes. Add even more artists and songs for more variety, and choose individual stations to listen to during a shuffle, or all of them if you want. It gave me a lot of good music, and if you didn't know about it before, now you do.