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The age of form > function starts now.

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The age of form > function starts now.
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>>62439789
>starts now
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>>62439789
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, piece of kunk!
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>>62439789
Is that real? I can't tell
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>>62439827
*junk
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no way that is real... right?
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>>62439789
Why is there a mouse clicking on a phone screen?
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>>62439833
me neither, but given apples autism about their interface im inclined to disbelieve
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This can't be real.
But again, pic related.
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>>62439844
It's from the SDK for IOS as the iphone x isnt out yet
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>>62439844
>>62439845
>>62439842
>>62439833
This seems like the iOS sdk from xcode 9, i haven't used it but I'd say there is a very strong chance it is real
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>>62439833
>>62439842
>>62439844
It’s not entirely real. It’s the iPhone Simulator. An app developer made this as a quick joke. Apple themselves have given guidelines to make apps their content inside safe areas with margins so that the content should never have to move horizontally.
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>>62439864
>>62439872
>>62439857
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>>62439789
I literally can't get over this. How could they allow something so retarded? Without that little flap thing they would have the most beautiful smart phone on the market. Edge to edge screen covering the entire front face of the phone is the stuff you see in movies.

Why the fuck didn't they just drop the front-facing selfie camera, are people really so vain that they need this? Or they could have made a small strip across the whole top rather than a fucking dent in the middle of the top of the screen. Makes no fucking sense.
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>>62439885
""no bezels""
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>>62439885
So they sell you a display that is only 85% usable? Genius.
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>>62439886
>Without that little flap thing they would have the most beautiful smart phone on the market. Edge to edge screen covering the entire front face of the phone is the stuff you see in movies.
You must be living under a rock. Haven't seen the LG G6? LG V30? Samsung Galaxy S8? Note 8? C'mon anon. Don't be stupid.

I mean I agree that the notch looks dumb as fuck but at least be real. It's just a stupid design decision but it's not the only problem with the iPhone X.
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>>62439905
>>62439899
Not entirely correct. Content is not the same as UI elements. I’m sure they would be fine with it if you use that space for buttons, an address bar, etc.
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>>62439924
>>62439885
>>62439930
>damage controlling this hard

go back to /r/apple with your fruitytoddlertoys
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>>62439789
Why would anyone ever browse in landscape?
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>>62439954
I wonder
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>>62440048
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>>62439954
>s8
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:(
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>>62440048
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>>62439885
Millenials love their safe spaces. Every college student will want one.
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>not putting paul on top

john was a globalist liberal race mixer who sold out his country, culture, and religion

the night he got shot he took a cover photo with yoko naked while she was clothed

clutching on to her like a mother figure(which lennon had relations with his mother and had a complex)
while she was smug like a dominatrix

its almost poetic that she started to care about him after he hit his lowest point and needed money (it was for her own album)
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>>62439827
>kunk
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>>62439789
>>62439857

We need to update this picture.
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>>62439924
I meant all four edges, rounded corners and all. No phone has that. It would've been fantastic, but Apple was too stupid to do it.
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>>62439885
Wait, what is that black bar at the bottom??
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>>62441166
unsafe area
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>>62441193
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>>62441166
Presumably "home button slider" or some bullshit along those lines, since they got rid of the home button it can be confusing if there is no visual clue of how to "go home".
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>>62441224
They could have the screen be the kind of flip board their trackpads are. Press a little harder and it activates a hardware switch.
But, modern apple is modern apple.
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>>62439789
gooby pls
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>>62439789
what the fucking fuck

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>62441375
I was going to ask about this. They already have the haptic feedback system and the button on the other phones uses it, it not being an actual button.

Surely the most sensible design decision would have been a haptic feedback button at the bottom of the screen instead of their ridiculous gesture controls?

It seems they've decided to be different for the sake of not being like android rather than it having any usability benefits.

The whole phone screams of the kind of bizarre, poorly thought out style over substance decision making that gave us the touch bar on macbooks
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>>62441539
far too sensible for applel
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>>62439789
Best Theory I found is to avoid iPhone X begin confuse galaxy 8 or another tiny bezel phones.
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>>62441193
lmao, apple protection tips from aids
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>they chose beatles front names because they know 20-35 millennials will feel cultured for recognizing them
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>>62441664
So they are basically being Google with their Pixelright now.
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>>62441166
they can't cut slice a piece off the top
that would fuck with the display ratio
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>>62440995
This packaging can't be real. It looks like orange genitals.
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>>62439821
this
kids don't know shit
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>>62441539
You don't know what you're talking about. Apple is so far ahead of Android in terms of UI and gesture designs.
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I wonder how screenshots will work on the iphone. What will they do with the top of the screen?
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>This packaging can't be real. It looks like orange genitals.

It is real tbqhfam
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>>62439789
Did Apple just fire all their designers?
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>>62442512
they would have gone with the second look if samsung hadn't already done it first

they want to create an "iconic recognizable" style

that's the same reason why they have been using the iPhone 6 design for the last 4 years
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>>62442537
Say what you will, but the "receding hairline" style is very recognizable.
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>>62439789
I don't like this
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>>62439789
>iNormies will defend this
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Itt poorfags who can't afford an iPhone X. Keep up the tears lads it's actually pretty funny
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>>62439789
>getting rid of headphone jack and now bezels when nobody even asked to get rid of them
Idk m8
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>>62442625
I pre ordered the note 8, I'm such a poorfag!
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>>62442537
>>62442512
There's nothing to say that they can't just release an update that makes the right example the default one and the left one optional. Right one looks way more aesthetic.

>>62442562
Though being recognisable is part of a good design, it's not exclusive to good design. Recognisable can also be bad. In this case it looks ridiculous, that's why it's recognisable.
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>>62442625
fuck off with this shit. iphones are barely more expensive than android flagships and you're likely just trolling awfully.

>>62442512
so people will just do a mod to make the nav bar black, or it'll become an option when this feature has had time to cook properly
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>>62439789
>now
see also >>62439821
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>>62442699
>so people will just do a mod to make the nav bar black
yeah, as if there will ever be a jailbreak again with Apple's ever increasing jewry
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>>62439789

>Android povvos being this butthurt that they can't afford an iX

The poorfag salt on /g/ these last few days has been hilarious
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>>62444071
Why would you waste money on this design nightmare?
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>>62444071
>iX
oh, so that's what happened to 9
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https://youtu.be/SyxvfMx0nfM
Top kek
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>>62444154

>Waste

Poorfag fox and grapes are the sweetest
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Turns out that Steve Jobs was the only real designer at apple.
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>>62444408
Him and Scott Forstall. After they fired him ios became just another soulless minimalist shitheap with ios 7
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>>62439789
>no one noticed The Beatles
damn.
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>>62439885
>having unsafe areas in your phone
TRIGGERED
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>>62444592
I have to admit that while I like iOS overall the interface lost a lot of soul after the sudden skeuomorphism witchhunt
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>>62444674
love beatles.
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>>62444405
24 payment plan
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Who the fuck browses their contacts in landscape mode you fucking retards
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>>62444592
Should have been CEO. Jobs fucked his own company by naming that faggot his successor rather than Scott. Apple would be 10 years ahead of where it is today.
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>>62444674
see >>62441718
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>>62444804
>Cook's aim since becoming CEO has been reported to be building a culture of harmony, which meant "weeding out people with disagreeable personalities—people Jobs tolerated and even held close, like Forstall,"[20] although former Apple senior engineer Michael Lopp "believes that Apple's ability to innovate came from tension and disagreement."[21]

Says a lot about current Apple really
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>>62444764
yeah, that's clearly the only instance where this is a design catastrophe
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>>62439789
To be fair. No one will go through their contacts in landscape
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>>62439789
Not sure why Anti-Apple shills are so butthurt about this, it gives a nice rolodex feel - do Anti-Apple shills even know about skeumorphic designs?
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>>62446040
>skeumorphic designs
Those have been outlawed by His Gayness himself, he >>62444592 was even fired for them
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>>62444592
I miss you Scott. Death to His Gayness.
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The phone isn't even out yet.
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>>62442512
Am I the only person that thinks that the left looks better?
t. am designer


Yeah, its obviously got problems when it goes into landscape mode. But desu I never use my phone like that.
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>>62446466
a picture of happier times ;_;
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>>62442512
they just went for the fuck my shit up approach
nobody cares about details
all they care is agenda
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>>62444747
those app themes were comfy as fuck
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>>62442512
The right one looks actually pretty cool, impressive.
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>>62446566
I use my phone in landscape all the time when I watch videos. So, this is actually a big issue. I wouldn't want a part of the video to be cut out from the screen.

And if the app would avoid the notch, it would still suck, because the whole "edge to edge display" meme would be useless. Why would you pay for edge-to-edge if you can't actually use that?
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>>62446984
>62446984
this so much
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>>62439885
What, do we need to compensate for overscan in our PHONES now?!?
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>>62439789

Wow. That is disgusting.
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>>62449263
>overscan
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>>62439789
thats ugly af
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>>62439789
All the anroid flagships are gonna follow suit and perpetuate the cycle of bad design.

Kill me
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>>62439930
There's no way they thought that with the iOS guys. The new phone is a clear example of a hand doing some shit the other doesn't know and the head just giving random blowjobs to homeless niggers on a back alley without a clue of what the fuck is going on.
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THANKS OBAMA
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>>62452077
Not this time, anon. Not this time.
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jesus christ
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>>62442977
>twu ports
bloatware
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>>62450042
I know, right? Fuckin' mountains.
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>>62449387
"overscan" isn't a meme
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>>62439789
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>It just works!
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>>62439789
>Apple claims bezellessness
>they have the worse StB ratio of the bunch
I don't even
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>>62453491
Shh.
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>>62439857
I don't see what's wrong
If you could charge it when using it, it defeats the purpose of having a Wireless Magic Mouse
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>>62453659
>>62441119
It's almost not funny how far they've fallen since Steve's death
Despite his many flaws, sometimes being a perfectionist is great
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Apple should just clone steve jobs

I'm not even joking
the technology is there
we can rebuild him, or make a Jobs AI
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>>62453423
fronted webdev / designer javascript monkey here

iphon uses apple safari webkit, which is not chromium blink version of webkit commonly used in every other current year browser, in result has noticeably shittier support for modern webstandards and it tends to break in weird ways when you make websites for it. and every web browser on walledgardenTM iDevice is a wrapper of that piece of shit. chrome, firefox, even ms edge for most part do things fine, but the magical iwebbrowser i forgot to test on has suddenly broken the website layout when i'm just about to finish the project.
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>>62453659
What the fuck is that thing sticking under the ipad?

Also what am I looking at in the last pic?
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>>62453853
It's a pen being recharged, also the last one is extra battery for the iPhone.
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>>62453927
I was about to ask why a pen needs charge or why would they sell "extra batery" but I already know the answer, god I can't believe people actually defend this shit.
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>>62444187
This is the 10th year since the first iPhone was released
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>>62453594
I think you had a mental fart here.
If you can use it wired, there's no reason to be wireless.
The wireless function is only for when you can't use it wired.
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>>62444187

>oh, so that's what happened to 9

In their edginess and proactive effort to be where the puck is going, they copied Microsoft and shitcanned 9.
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>>62439930
>I’m sure they would be fine with it if you use

lmao it's a DISGRACE that people buy hardware so heavily restricted that you can't even make decisions about how your own software works. An absolute disgrace.
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>>62442673

Apple doesn't like to admit they were wrong. Especially in this age where multiple websites will let the populace know if something changes slightly.
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>>62452077
Xiaomi maybe
Samsung still have 3.5mm so I doubt they'll do it
Sony flipped off the nobezel meme so there's no way they'll do it either
Apple doesn't lead the pack like they used to with Jobs around.
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>>62441119
what is that thing
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>>62439789
AHahababahahaAHAHAHAHAH
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHAHA
*inhales
AhahaHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>62444747
I miss that so much.
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>>62439872
sauce?
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Yet sadly it is the number #1 selling phone world wide
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>>62444747
those looks were the only thing i've ever liked about iOS

if any interface can be called "material", it's those, as they actually resemble real life materials
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>>62454250
>Sony flipped off the nobezel meme
The annoying thing about Sony is they've not actually changed their phone design for the past 5 years now. It's literally just a bog standard rectangle with some bezels.
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>>62442977
You know what? I will unironically defend this.
USB-C is great and in 5 years or so this won't even matter because 99% of accessories and devices and whatnot will contact using it. Not to mention USB-C is pretty much just as good as USB type A except it's smaller and double reversible.
Don't even bother bringing up that webm of the one guy covered in hundreds of dongles because that's totally unrealistic. You're most likely only going to need one USB C hub like a HyperDrive; one little stick that has two standard USB ports, two USB C ports, one microSD slot, one standard SD slot AND an HMDI port. You don't need a seperate dongle for everything.
This change is fine; we just have to give it time. It's the removal of the floppy disk all over again.

The removal of the headphone jack, now THAT was bullshit.
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>>62439789
It already started years ago.
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>>62444747
skeuomorphism deserves to die it never looked good
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>>62444747
stop using buzzwords faggot
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>>62439842
>safe areas with margins
literally fake bezels
>guideline to never use fake bezels for devs
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I made a thing
https://a.pomf.cat/cdfiqk.psd
Some of the corners are kind of rough but I think this could be pretty funny.
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>>62439789
Reminds me of the sidekick's main menu
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>>62439885
>We fucked up and have no idea what "bezelless" means, so we created a gay ass notch that will be a defacto bezel
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>>62442977
>Model without the touch bar
Plebs only get two.
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>>62442125
It's shooped
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>>62456359
why not posting the png here?
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>>62456500
I forgot pngs have white space.
Good point.
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>>62455861
http://comma.guide/vocative-comma/
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>>62442512
the right one looks like a different phone
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>>62439789
>john ringo
lol
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>>62457447
Are you seriously underage enough to not recognize the names?
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>>62457462
i dont know why you are so butthurt????
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>>62457498
People will always be elitist on /g/. It is to be expected.
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Is this the biggest design blunder since HON ASS?
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>>62453724
Sounds like you’re a shitty web developer then.
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>>62444674
Who ?
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>>62442512
LAGDROIDS BTFO
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>>62439885
By recommending that developers keep the app user interface and content in the safe area, this >>62442512 is as simple as a toggle in Settings.
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>>62455789
Skeuomorphism was never about looking good. It was about discoverability of user interface features. Form serving function.
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>>62456473
That's still awful.
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>>62441193
underrated
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>now
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>>62444674
Fuck off hippie
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>>62444276
>chinks doing chink things
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>>62441119
someone please post the response ,,switched my mouse in to defense mode and finish my round"
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>>62441119
>>62462560
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>>62441119
what's the left one?
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Holy shit guys now even us poor pajeet lagdroid peasants can have a FuTuRe $mArTFoNe!!!!!:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.iphonexscreen
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>>62439789

It actually started in December 2013 with this non-upgradeable travesty of a machine supposedly intended for professionals.

They actually admitted they designed themselves into a corner.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/4/15175994/apple-mac-pro-failure-admission

They're going to supposedly reveal something new in 2018. 2018! WTF have they been doing all this time? Doesn't this company with more money than most countries have a dedicated Mac Pro team?
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>>62456359
A proper version of this is on Apple's website.
https://images.apple.com/v/iphone-x/a/images/overview/primary/hero_premiere_hardware_large.png
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>>62462664
their next move was the iMac Pro which is even worse in some ways (Forces people who very likely already have at least one nice expensive monitor to buy another just to get the rest of the hardware, and still just as non-upgradeable as the Trash Can Pro)
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>>62439833
this is a developers suggestion to the problem of the intrusive bar, it is not apple affiliated though
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>>62462730
>their next move was the iMac Pro which is even worse in some ways

To this day, I do not understand who the target audience is for the iMac Pro.

They are obsessed with small form factor to the point of completely losing the vision on why a product line even exists. Size should be a non-factor in the Mac Pro line. It is supposed to be a way of using OSX with the most powerful hardware available. Upgradeability should be one of the top features in a Mac Pro.

Prior to the trash can reveal, I thought they were going to show us some kind of awesome enthusiast size tower with fancy trays and doors with room for all kinds of drives and big graphics cards. It was the first time I had the thought "Jobs would have never ever allowed this". That fucking trashcan marks the moment the ship had lost its course.
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>>62457521
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>>62454561
>>62462624
left to right: iPhone battery case with a hunchback, iPad's pen that can be charged only by leaving it sticking out like that, mouse that can be charged only on its side/upside down because charging port is on bottom, large iPad (goes with pen)
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>>62462991
iMac only refers to the AiO computers. the Mac Pro is the one that looks like a trashcan.
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>>62462991
They overdid the engineering design wank and forgot about the actual product

To be fair, if it was a bigger can you can upgrade or put things inside, it would be a revolutionary thing because of the design could be copied to PC, but it couldn't, so it wasn't.
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>>62463870
the old mac pro is the one depicted, the new line up for the mac pro is the trash can one
https://www.amazon.ca/Apple-Mac-MB871LL-Desktop-VERSION/dp/B000R84UQ0
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>>62463977

How would it be revolutionary?
It would just be a shittier form factor destined to be always suboptimal, since literally all of the components you could choose from are rectangular and of different sizes, so with the same components you'll always end up with a bigger unit compared to a traditional case, and since man-made structures and furniture are also rectangular for the most part, it'll end up hogging even more space due to simple geometry. There is not a single rational aspect to the design.
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>>62453659
>Designed in California®
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>>62457521
non
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>>62464563
si
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>>62463870
>iMac only refers to the AiO computers. the Mac Pro is the one that looks like a trashcan.


Yeah I know. You are probably confused on the naming...it is in fact getting confusing.

I was referring to the recently announced iMac Pro. The 18 core AiO

https://www.apple.com/imac-pro/

I don't know who the target audience is. It is rumored to be retailing at $5000. Is the target professionals who would spend that kind of coin as a business expense? Well, wouldn't they be waiting for the Mac Pro in 2018? Don't they need upgradability?

Is it a holdover product since they seem to have been sitting on their asses regarding the Mac Pro? If it is, that's a good amount of money just to replace it in a year. And my previous points of upgradability and expandability still stand.

The regular consumer? Don't think so. Why do you need 18 cores for iPhoto and iTunes? The regular consumer isn't going to spend $5K.

So it doesn't fill in the needs of professionals, too expensive for regular compute needs. Who is the iMac Pro for?
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>>62439930
>Coping this hard
Ho much did tim cook pay you(in rectal cancer currency)
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