Speakers GENERAL

>>62434363
should we make a buyers guide like hpg?

>>62434504
Why not.
But it'd have to be separated into US/EU/Asian regions.

Because I bought the whole DALI Zensor series back in 2012 and the Zensor 1 cost me $300, and I heard those where like 400 in USA which is the complete opposite of what things usually cost.
It's often twice as expensive here compared to US, not the other way around.

Got myself a new stereo amp.
Made quite a huge difference compared to a 8+year old av receiver.

Next upgrade will be the main speakers.

There's not that much to choose from in the 500-800usd range. Mostly 300 and then 1200.

>>62434504
how?
there's no huge fanbase of collectors and enthusiasts doing legit comparisons and thrid party measurements as with headphones so there's no real data to base any guides and recommendations on other than isolated and purely subjective views of different people for each single pair of speakers and nothing comparable at all

lads,

Adam F7's or Yamaha HS8's?

Almost exclusively for mixdowns.

>>62434910
you have to test them
I personally can not work on adams or any amt tweeter design

>>62434936
>test them
i intend to, but i'll usually take an informed opinion gained over hours of use over 30 minutes spent at a store desu.

>I personally can not work on adams or any amt tweeter design
how come?

>>62434980
also, i'll add, the space they'll be in is fairly small so logic would dictate that the front ported, smaller, adams would make more sense

>>62434980
not at a store, obviously
take them home, do your business as usual and keep the ones that provide you better results
here in germany you can return anything you bought within two weeks, no questions asked
I'm sure you can make a similar deal with a pro audio dealer, maybe for a small rental fee that'S still worth it

>how come?
I can't really get adjusted to it, no matter how hard I try I always need to tweak stuff I mix on amts, including very good ones (eve 407, adam s3, hedd type 30) at studios I like otherwise. It's just not my cup of tea so I can't blindly recommend it to anyone who never tried working with them

>>62435063
fair enough. have you had the opportunity to use any of the yamaha HS line?

>>62435094
yes, I had hs80 for a long time. absolutely fine speakers for the price

>>62435137
cheers.

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Where my LSR niggas at?

Sick speakers.

>>62436414
They're the best speakers I've ever owned. To get better sound, I would sooner fix my room.

I'm about to kill myself

>Bought PreSonus Eris E5
>Try with onboard audio
>Noise an interference, gets worse when move mouse
>Read that DAC will fix it
>Buy $120 DAC
>It doesn't fix it

I'm so damn deflated. What the fuck am I doing wrong?

This is my first time doing this shit so I don't know anything, but I cannot figure what I'm doing wrong. I have XLR to 3.5mm connections into the DAC, and a USB connection from DAC to PC.

>>62436414
Recently went on sale at GC, so I own the 305s now. Absolutely great sounding. I only use them for my synths, though. Haven't had a chance to use them for media too much.

please respond

the front center speakers on my built in 5.2 surround system is fucked. thinking of just replacing them with some regular bookshelf speakers instead of bothering to repair them. any objections to this idea?

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>>62436414
>>62436718
>>62434363
poorfags get money

Going to bed. If I check tomorrow and >>62436718
doesn't have any replies I will return everything and live the life of a logitech 2.1 pleb.

>>62436828
they sound like shit

>>62437009
They actually sound great, it must be your ears that are shit, sorry.

>>62437025
compare it to anything else they sound flat and distorted with no bass horrible highs your better off with hifi equipment it would sound better

>>62436718
what cables are you connecting to them? I have KRK monitors and had the same problem a USB audio interface fixed it. Like a Scarlet 2i4.

>>62437058
They actually don't sound flat or distorted at all and the bass is completely adequate, and the price can't be beat. Fuck off, troll.

>>62437058
>compare it to anything else they sound flat
This is good though. Good audio sounds flat.

>>62436993
>telling poorfags to get money
>doesn't even have central air conditioning

>>62437172
>>62437170
>>62437129
hear something that sounds good not poor fag audio flat sounding is bad it sounds dead boring not musical cant belive people defending there purchase this badly come on they arnt the best there is better stuff to buy

>>62437193
>speakers should sound """musical"""
Just stick to Dr. Dre.

>>62437225
I have these music should sound good I have heard the jbl meme speakers they suck and the hisss noise is annoyiong
>>62436993

>>62437308
Get a real house and maybe I'll take you seriously.

>>cheap rent in shitty houses boy only 50$ per week maybe you should move out of your mothers house

>>62437193
No one said they're the best, they're 200 fucking dollars you idiot. For the price the sound is very good and acclaimed almost everywhere. Stop being a faggot.

I recently took out my analog 5.1 and put in a soundbar with toslink input and a wired subwoofer output and I am happy with it.

Did I do good or dun goof'd?

>>62437560
Curious as to why you bought a soundbar when you could have just picked up a digital amp for your existing speakers

>>62437770
Current desk layout made it silly to have 5.1 as all speakers were facing me.

>>62437770
no such thing as a digital amp they are all analogue its all marketing

>>62436414
>doesn't come with the correct cables
>need to spend almost $100 on rca to 1/4th
ugh

>>62437817
How does an entirely analogue device accept digital input?

>>62437829
with a dac

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>>62437825
$6 each @ monoprice desu.

Sorry you bought yours from some nigger in a mall parking lot, man.

>>62438066
I haven't bought them yet, last time I tried to buy something from monoprice it was a set of cables that was going to cost me almost $60 in shipping, for a $3 cable

>>62438049
But that by definition involves some digital componentry.

>>62438136
you cant amplify a digital signal it gets converted by ther dac then goes to the amplifier

>>62438186
The DAC is inbuilt into the amplifier unit, making it a digital amplifier.

>>62438206
no its an amplifer plus dac

>>62438222
Stallman pls go and stay go.

>>62438222
nice trips
>>62438237
your just wrong thou its an amp plus dac they is no such thing as a digital amp since its amplifint a analogue signal

>>62438534
bruv im tekkinb yuo its a dibitel bnump ut suz rite on the lbmel

>>62436414
>>62436490
>>62436828
can you post pics of your set-ups

>>62437058
>>62437193
what in the sub $350 range would you recommend instead?

does it matter if i lose some speaker wire while cutting it?

>>62440074
if you're cutting it and it's the same length as before then you're not cutting correctly, no

>tfw too much anxiety to use speakers

>>62434504
Why not just consolidate speaker/headphone/amplifier/microphone discussion into one thread?

>>62440842
generals and circle jerks are epic and for the win :D

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>>62440856
>having like 5 generals vs 1 is a good idea

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>>62437058

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HS7 masterrace

>>62441498
what exactly is masterrace about it?

>>62438222
This.
A class-D amplifier is not the same as a Digital-to-Analogue-Converter + any class amplifier.

>>62434504
Hornloaded made one years ago.

>>62441755
The graph shows that it has almost no differences in response from 40-11.000 Hz. But +-5dB is still quite a lot, but can be adjusted for.

Also the Yamaha speakers are an industry standard for mastering against.

>>62442051
>Hornloaded
I miss him. His guide was pretty good.

>>62442077
yeah that's what I mean, nothing on that list including the frequency plot is anything special.

>industry standard for mastering against
what does that even mean?
do you mean the NS-10 that are used as a consumer shitbox reference in the means of if you can make it sound okay on these it will sound okay on anything? I'm not sure how that's a good thing other than 'oh I've seen that white cones before, pros use it'

>>62438534
When people say 'digital amp' they mean a class D amp in which the output devices operate as PWM'd switches, as opposed to operating linear as in 'traditional' amp classes. It has fuck all to do with integrated DACs.

>>62436414
These sound bright and thin as fuck. Why do you guys love this shit so much.

>>62442302
what did you compare them to?

>>62442328
Genelecs mainly.

>>62442302
The 8" woofer version certainly doesn't sound thin.

>>62442334
Genelecs are also in a different price-range by far. (atleast in my region)

>>62434363
the fuck you have a general for speakers
>big speaker
>small speaker
>black speaker
>brown speaker
>speaker

>>62442345
The Adam F series is in the same price range as the JBL LSR and they are significantly more neutral as well.

>ITT people that fell for z guy shilling

>>62442362
adam f series is anything but neutral

>>62442392
zeos?
I think most people on this board can see that he's lacking even the most basic understanding of what he's trying to talk about so I don't think anyone takes his opinions seriously

>>62441498
RP-160m is better

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>>62442392
I fell for Z's JBL Studio 530 meme.
I love 'em though

>>62442676
see >>62442645

>>62442829
forgot to use your trip, horny
welcome back

>>62440842
Those fags in /hpg/ who can't afford good speakers won't appreciate a speaker thread

What amp should I get for my KEF Q100s? Stereo receiver or one of those class D amps?

>>62442873
what ever has the inputs and power rating you want

HS8

Post it every thread

>>62442951
what about them?

>>62442971
Good speakers. They made me appreciate sound quality, almost like a curse they attune your ears to frequency response regardless of the speakers. I used to like a lot of bass but now I appreciate a balanced frequency response.

>>62442997
that's a cool way to put it. I got a similar experience with my first proper speakers

>>62443019
As I was writing it it almost felt like I was writing typical audiophile garbage because of the tone but its definitely something I think everyone should experience, whether it be with hs8s or other reference speakers

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>using studio monitors to listen music
>ruining music author's intent

>>62443381
what did he mean by this

>>62443381
This. Cringe.

>>62443396
yeah
listening to music
gross

>>62436993
To be frank Chorus 807v aren't really much better than a pair of HS7s
>>62437193
Dude Focals are pretty flat lol and forward

>>62443390
Proper studio monitors aim for a very flat frequency response, which makes them useful when mastering music but boring as fuck when listening to music for pleasure.

In recent years there has been a surge in people that do fuck all production/mastering buying studio monitors because they incorrectly think that having a flat response is inherently superior for listening and that they can then smugly consider themselves superior to everybody else that uses non-monitor speakers. These people are idiots.

>>62443468
I'm enjoying music very much on my HS7s, mr marketing

I do have them in corners for maximum bass tho, I don't produce, abdnd I got them for free, and there is no better alternative in the home audio market for that price anyway.

>>62443468
>http://seanolive.blogspot.de/2008/12/part-3-relationship-between-loudspeaker.html

>>62443491
>people preferred a flat response to one that was all over the fucking place.

No shit. Now show me the same test comparing a flat speaker to one with a subtle disco smile - protip, the latter will win every time.

>>62443488
>>62437193
Adding to my previous post, I'm pretty sure I've heard enough "good" speakers, including Revel F208s (fucking amazing), Dali Ikon 7 Mk2s (damn fine), B&W 600 series floorstander and 805Ds (too fucking warm, can't stand them), Klipsch reference something something with 2 big woofers (sounded alright), Focal 1038Be, Chorus 807v, 826w, 836v (like focals, imho very similar to Dali in their sound signature), to name a few

I still enjoy my HS7s even if those were pretty much the last speakers I've heard after all the ones listed

>>62443587
If you want I can even name the amps that each pair was running off

>>62443381
Idk, I can enjoy music more knowing I'm hearing for the most part what the author intended. It also makes it glaring obvious when a song is low effort, especially the drum machines. I think rarely are there times that sound should be made to sound different. Mainly in car audio because you need to account for driving noises and all that. Obviously too, phones and what not can't get anywhere near a flat response. Perhaps headphones shouldn't be flat because theyre so close to your ears and personally they're the only time I enjoy heavier base. But apart from that I don't think so, eqs can take care of all that, it shouldn't be the speaker doing it.

>>62443532
so using a flat speaker means you can't trim the high and low end to your liking? I don't think that's why there's a low and high trim on every active monitor, flat or not

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>tfw got a set of red as fuck active kanto yumi's a while ago
>tfw they're super convenient tier, sound great and having a spif in is 10/10

Even better that they have a mono sub-out port, which is letting me cheat the shit out of everything and use an old, relatively okay-sized sub from a logitech 5.1 system.
The sub will need to be replaced at some point, but it's still pretty functional in the meanwhile.

>>62443874
>relatively okay-sized sub from a logitech 5.1 system.
Almost made me puke.

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>>62444072
It is a relatively "decent" size, though. Especially for the type of contained sound systems you'd normally think about.

It definitely needs replaced and will be at some point in the near future, but it's much better than having no sub at all. I mean, it's a 6.5'' bandpass, so it's not like I'm getting starved of volume.

How do you ni/g//g/ers feel about the Edifier 1280T speakers?

>>62434554
>But it'd have to be separated into US/EU/Asian regions.
Actually it should be far more fine grained than that.

>>62442354
t. speaklet

>>62444072
>mocking Logitech
Don't you dare, they sometimes use Tangband speakers.

Just kidding, that happens in rare and most likely cancelled models only. Carry on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQwvE8ZKDNE

>>62443390
>>62443448
>>62443621
Music authors design recordings with regular speakers in mind and adjust it accordingly. Its not supposed to be heard on studio monitors.

>>62444565
cool story

>>62444575
He is right though.

>>62444597
absolutely
makes a lot of sense considering how vast the differences in between studio monitors and regular speakers are, they're so tightly defined and regulated so music authors can design correctly

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>>62434363
Guys, what's the best you can get for 1000€? I am talking about the complete system, and using the PC as the source (usually FLAC files).

Speakers instead of headphones if possible.

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>>62444575
Yeah if i was making music id definitely cared more about 0.05% audience that use studio monitors instead of the rest whom use multimedia and Hi-Fi speakers.

>>62444565
>>62444597
>>62444621
Those folks know whats up.

>>62444633
yeah of course just using that very specific multimedia and hifi speaker sound signature as a target makes the job easier

>>62444665
You mean, that specific signature shared by 99% of their customers?

>>62444410
Aren't those the small as duck ones

>>62444655
I'm pretty sure >>62444621 was sarcastic.

>>62444784
yes, because that's how mastering works, right?
you have to decide to either make it sound good on monitors or every other speaker.

>>62444353
See >>62444527

>but it's much better than having no sub at all
It is actually worse than not having a sub at all.

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I have these.

>>62444892
my condolences

>>62444892
Speaker threads are for good speakers. This is like talking about garbage headphones in hpg, don't do it

>>62444824
In the same way that all monitors tend to be fairly flat, all consumer speakers tend to have a bit of a disco smile to them. So, yes, that's exactly what you do.

>>62444931
do you even believe the shit you're writing?
have you ever been to a hifi store?

>The engineer may mix programming that will sound pleasing on the widest range of playback systems used by regular listeners (i.e. high-end audio, low-quality radios in clock radios and "boom boxes", in club PA systems, in a car stereo or a home stereo). While some broadcasters like the BBC generally believe in using monitors of "the highest practicable standard of performance",[citation needed] some audio engineers argue that monitoring should be carried out with loudspeakers of mediocre technical quality to be representative of the regular systems end-users are likely to be listening with
This is audio mastering 101

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>>62445011
That just does sound like the only thing you can do is not making use of the whole frequency range.
So you still can hear stuff on monitors, it's just a waste of money - in theory, because of high "normal equipment" prices are.
>>62444922
You mean head speakers, right anon?

>>62445011
no, this is a quote from a 1958 BBC paper on broadcast production and monitoring and you neatly trimmed it into your context

>>62444877
Except it's not. I've used them without a sub, they're lacking on the low end and sound very bright.

You're also missing that the larger reason why the speaker systems are generally shit is due to their crossovers and speakers being shit.
In this case the crossover is still technically sort of there, but only after the speakers DAC has decided what gets fed to them to start with.

A sub is a sub. It's there to deliver bass response and deliver on the low end. They're not optimal but they do fill in at least some of what the Yumi's lack. Especially since I'm only filling a small room and using them as a desktop setup.

>>62445102
>In this case the crossover is still technically sort of there, but only after the speakers DAC has decided what gets fed to them to start with.

Wat.

>>62445086
the frequency range of a monitor speaker is no different than anything else's unless you're talking about huge flush mounted high end main monitors.
which are certainly not object here since anon wants to demonize widely spread affordable bookshelf size active speakers labeled as 'studio monitors'

>>62445224
>widely spread affordable bookshelf size active speakers labeled as 'studio monitors'
You mean, like the small Genelec things?
I guess that's just another sign of
>in theory, because of high "normal equipment" prices are.

>Ninety-five percent of people listen to music in their car or on a cheap home stereo; 5 percent may have better systems; and maybe 1 percent have a $20,000 stereo. So if it doesn’t sound good on something small, what’s the point? You can mix in front of these huge, beautiful, pristine, $10,000 powered monitors all you want. But no one else has these monitors, so you’re more likely to end up with a translation problem.”
Cant believe some people actually don't know that.

>>62445224
>widely spread affordable bookshelf size active speakers labeled as 'studio monitors'

Wait, are you saying my $99 studio monitors aren't legitimate professional equipment as used in industry?

>>62445277
yeah they're ruining the artist's design

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>>62445153
The speakers are powered.
They have their own DAC. It has a literal SPIDF input. That I use.
The speakers have a dedicated mono RCA sub out port. The (quality) DAC in the speakers decides what signal range of audio to even send to that port.
That is what gets fed into the subwoofer. It will only receive that signal range. There are no speakers connected to the sub. It's just a fucking sub at this point, despite that it has a large plate amp stuck to it powering it and a bunch of unused 3.5mm outs.

Basically, I'm telling you that it's just there for bass response. It doesn't even really decide on its own what gets put out of the sub. It was determined before it even got there. It also even has its own "volume" control, allowing me to limit it when I want to.

It's mediocre. It needs replaced. But it fucking works and is most definitely better than no sub at all with the range of music I listen to.

With 80% of studio monitors sub is a must IMO.

>>62445403
that's just the same for every 6.5 or 5" speaker, powered or not bass extension is always very limited

>>62445429
I want muh 8" two way closed box speakers back.

>>62445477
yeah well a design that plays lower is obviously bigger in size, which is a problem for some people so tucking away a sub under the desk is not the worst compromise

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help me with a room layout pls, lads.
bear in mind that there will be 2 displays on the desk with the option to orient 1 vertically.

>>62445862
Probably 2.

>>62444565
Go shove your marketing talk up your ass

>>62445890
do you think the reflections off the corner be a problem?

>>62445907
I think the reflections of the window might be a problem.

BIG FAT SUBWOOFERS

>>62445907
Probably not as much of a problem as them being placed off-center

>>62445862
4

>>62445862
Id chose 5. 4 if you only listen your music while you sit at your computer.

Can anyone recommend a good 2.1 multimedia speakers for my PC? I have a budget of around $500.

>>62445862
I would say 3, never turn your back to a door

>>62445900
>t. butthurt studio monitor user
Keep playing into audio engineer xD

>>62445972
go buy some cable risers

>>62445922
i can always close the curtains

>>62445929
it's somewhat unavoidable unless i go with 4. need room to access the window-end of the room.

>>62445960
any particular reason? i live here by myself t b h.

>>62445945
>Id chose 5
is lack of muh equilateral triangle a big issue?
having the speakers angled that acutely as well doesn't seem like a gr8 idea t b h.

>>62446044
if you can kick back easily to enjoy stuff near the actual sweet spot if needed, it's no big deal obviously
if you want to do some critical monitoring you should avoid it, though

>>62444627
Q Acoustics 3020 speakers
Wharfedale Diamond SW150 sub
Teac AI-301DA amp/dac

spend the rest on some decent headphones

>>62446044
I just cant stand narrow scene. 150 is very narrow IMO.

>>62446066
>if you want to do some critical monitoring you should avoid it, though
sadly, that's the primary purpose

>>62446084
then it's 4. equilateral triangle and equidistant side walls and the best starting point you can get out of this

>>62446104
cheers, i'll just have to get a mount for the second display and stick it above the primary.

got any desk stand/pad recommendations?

>>62446131
I do the same thing, can't go back from stacked displays, it's beautiful.
anything angled foam high enough density to support your speakers' weight will be fine

>>62445862
Either 4 or 5.
Having a window behind your back is stupid as you get plenty of screen glare.

>>62446153
cheers

ta all for answers.

>>62445972
I've listened extensively to more hifi that you've ever seen you dumbass nigger

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>speakercucks got BTFO so hard they made their own safe space thread

>>62446263
Headphones are for privacy. Speakers are for brutal enjoyment

What get for 100 bucks

Go!

>for a pair.

>>62446314
Edifier R1280T

>>62445862
for that situation 4 or 5 definitely

>>62446003
>particular reason
Masterbation mostly.
U-unless you have n-no life, anon?

>>62447436
>U-unless you have n-no life, anon?
i don't t b h

So
best budget (<50€)
best mid range (150€~)
best high range (300€~)
best richfag range (>500€)

Also, best DAC/AMP/pre-amp for those (if needed).

>>62444565
proof?

>>62447870
Separate stereo and 2.1, 5.1, 7.1 systems and such. Maybe we could add a gimmick category like soundbars.

>>62440879

>Audio General

Consolidated general: Done

>implying a MDR-V6 beats any kind of speaker

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Audiophiles

>>62447870
500 is nothing, especially for bigger (3 way and such) speakers for bigger rooms and listening distances

>>62447945
when will they learn?

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>>62447945
There is nothing wrong with liking nice things but there is a point where it becomes autism.

>>62448025
THICC

>>62448025
sneke

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A/AB amp master race

>>62448110
what makes it different from a receiver?

>>62448137
What do you mean?

Int amps function for both power generation like a stand a one amp and receiver, just in one unit instead of two.

>>62448174
Oh ok

>>62448137
who the fuck is buying receivers those days

>>62448110
PWM right until smoothing caps master race.

>>62448191
Why not?

>>62448191
I just bought one to replace my old one. How else am I supposed to connect various hdmi devices and power my speakers?

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>>62434363
I need some cheap active speakers.
I have around 100 euros to spent.
Are the fostex pm0.3 anygood?

>>62448248
every tv have at least 4 hdmi inputs. analog rca output from tv connect to aux in to int amp. surround sound is a meme. it’s always better 2 good speaker and stereo integrated amp

>>62448413
>rca output from tv
lol-bzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>62448829
ok, than digital output from tv to dac

>>62448898
So we're back to a receiver again.

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My new baby.

>>62448920
or stereo integrated amp with dac. receiver have many unnecessary things

>>62449069
what model is it?

>>62449096
>basically you should pay more for less, because I don't like having extra things.
Why?

>>62446314
wher liv?

>>62449096
Maybe for your setup that would be better but I have 5.1 speakers so an AV receiver makes sense.

>>62449128
Power requirements are more of an issue with surround sound receivers than with int stereo amps.

As are sound issues due to the fact that there is more going on in the same space in terms of circuitry that could disrupt the sound.

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>>62449128
because multy channel receiver have 6 or 7 very poor amplifiers installed and 2 channel stereo amp will have 2 good amps.

>>62448385
You might be able to find some used edifier r1600t3 or r1700bt for that money, be aware though that most stereo speakers' lower frequency range ends at 60 (low to none bass output if you like electronic music)

>>62449225
>paying more for meme audiophile shit
Nah.
>>62449191
>95% efficiency
>caring about power requirements when a circuit is at least 2kW still
How much power do you need? Christ, 7x110w is plenty enough to annoy the neighbours 3 streets over.

>>62449318
The power supplies and amps in such receivers leave much to be desired, they arent designed for sound quality, they are designed for "muh extreme wattage across all gorillian channels!"

>>62449415
Objectively they get great results, unless objective testing is no longer allowed due to Audiophile bullshittery - in which I'll leave you to your overpriced garbage.

>>62449112
RN602.

Was looking for specific things and this had it all.
Very pleased with the sound.

>>62449473
But they dont, objective sound testing will show you that as will testing of output signals. You either spend money on shielding and good amps or you spend money on many channels and if you do both then the receiver will be far from cheap.

You wont convince anyone that your $500 dennon with 5.1 channels will sound as good as a $500 2.0 or 2.1 stereo amp.

>>62446314
>>62447870
>>62448385
If you are on a budget (200 $/€ and below) just go with any Edifier model that fits your spending bill. I've used a bunch of budget speakers throughout the years (Creative, Logitech, chinese no name brands etc) and no one has made anything as solid in this price range.

Currently sitting on a pair of Edifier Studio 1600TIII 2.0, and the sound details and build quality is not something you would expect out of an electronics product that costs 99€ . I'm quite content with these and I don't see myself upgrading anytime in the near future. I'd say its worth upgrading your budget to get a pair of these, they will last you a while.

If Edifier isn't available in your area, or if all you ever listen to is normie music, then go with any ~100 $/€ Logitech 2:1 model. Okay sound, good amount of bass.

>>62445361

Nice but very expensive.

>>62450733
$250 is very expensive?

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>>62451286
better than similar priced logitechs because of actual tweeters

>>62451286
Those aren't bad man. They sound great for the price.

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I got this little fucker:
http://www.classic-audio.com/technics-suv2x-p-657.html
What speakers for it do you recommend?

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The Z5500 wasn't that bad for the price. Awful for music but passable for movies with 5.1 surround.

>>62451286
So do I, because of limited desk space. They're not terrible if you have limited desk space and know how to EQ. They're pretty distorted at the port resonance though.

>>62447870
If we are going full /msg/ Monitors-Speakers General, we should get something like that on OP.
I'd add a >really richfag range >1000€, and keep from 500 to 1000 for "I got some money".

>>62452468
Only two people have posted things worth over 1k in this thread.

I think it is a safe bet to say that not many people here can afford such toys.

>>62449069
What SVS is that in the background?

>>62436718
Remove the grounding pin from your power cable.

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New speaker technology rules.

Circumaural surround. Fuck all you bro's rocking speaker designs from the 20's. Get modern yo. Get /g/ with your speakers.

Also, all amps sound the same if used within their power range.

http://hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12_2/spherex-xbox-51-speakers-5-2005.html

Is there any reason besides cost, amplification and sweet spot size to not go with electrostatic speakers?

>>62453692
Bass response is an issue as well.

But aside from those reasons not really.

>>62453146
Doesn't that put safety at risk?

Anyone here still regularly use vinyl?

>>62454034
My roommate does.

>>62453692
high maintenance, as in the stat strips degrade and you have to send the whole fucking unit in for repair

>>62454060
Does he want to swap cum with you?

>>62454354
No, he does want to hook his record player up to my amp though.

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>>62454364
please tell me more

>>62454409
He just wants to use my speakers/amp over his audio engines.

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can you guys help me?, i need to isolate my sub from the floor as the people living below me are starting to complain, i was thinking on using a MDF board on top of either a large sand bag or some "feet" made up of PVC tubes and tennis balls.
would that work to reduce the noise to the apartment below?

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>>62452594
those of us that can dont post here.....

>>62443463
they are actually the 807vw and they sound better

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I have a Pioneer VSX-44. Older but good. Has markings on it for the iPhone 5s and 5c.

Right now I'm using basically $20 speakers with it. Hoping to eventually get a good set.

>>62443587
>>62443603
youre a fucking idiot, HS7 can in no way compete with Focal floorstanders, Focal 1038Be etc

HS7 has decent bass extension for its class, and nothing much except for beating out its class competitors, like presonus, mackie, and chink shit,

dont try and mix a mass consumer DJ monitor with entry level hifi champ

>>62454677

I'd suggest not being a poorfag and living in a shitty apartment with paper thin walls/floors

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>>62454677
I not to dissimilar discussion happened with 3D printers. People used everything they could thing to quiet them. This shouldn't work as well as it does, but yes it does!

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>he can't afford English speakers

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Nubert Nuprp a200 reporting in

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B&W DM601 S2s here

>>62455108
Interesting, would yoga mats work too? I can cut one into several pieces and then pile them up

>>62455108
Meant to start with 'A' not I.

>>62455263
Probably but the kids ones are dirt cheap and in many colors so bother cutting stuff for it to look bad.

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> side track from monitors
> home speakers
> Realistic Optimus T-100
Most comfy and enjoyable sounding set of speakers I've ever owned. Definitely not the last word in HiFi, but they just fall into place, and despite their size, you forget their even there.

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>>62434363
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I run these from a PC through an MAudio AP 192 soundcard to a Resolution Audio Opus 21 CDPlayer digital input then direct to a Balanced Audio Technology VK 200 200 wpc balanced solid state amp

ITT: People that think "active" speakers sound better than regular speakers you connect to a receiver.
The same people mistake active speakers for simply powered speakers.

>>62440748
Don't worry, your parents will love your anime squealing

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>>62434363
That's mine(LG CM4320) music system with custom speakers.
that_anon_with_$3000_PC

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>>62454034
just spinning some Stevie Nicks

>>62452608
Pb2000.

Love it.

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I want a 5.1 setup to listen to TDSOTM in surround mix. Suggestions?

Headphones > speaker
>Yes I have both

>>62443381
>Not listening to music as flat and boring as possible.

There's a time and a place for flat.
My headphones sure aren't but I like my speakers to be boring. Just sounds nice.

Triangle Comete EX with upgraded crossover s . Comfy man. Class a valve amp.

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>>62455169
> english
> not italian speakers
What are you? Poor?

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Can I get an opinion on these please. Should I believe the amazon review meme? I want good sound quality, no need for nigger bass and no space for a subwoofer either because I only listen to trance and jpop.

>>62458114

I'm also interested.

Can get T20 for $60 or should I go with z623 for $110?

Any Chinese alternatives?

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Move aside, LSR305

>>62456998
I have one too, it is very nice.

>>62454811
Never have I implied that, you dumb fuck. But they compete surprisingly well against Focals bookshelf speakers.

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8010a checkin in, who else genetic senpai??

Coming from yamaha hs8s these are so amazing for their size, i have a shitty untreated room with low ceilings and hard floor so the yamahas sounded very sloppy since they were too big for my room and I couldn't place them far enough from the walls, there was an ever awful bloatiness in the bass.

i needed something way smaller that could sound good in a room with terrible acoustic properties, and these are perfect.

>>62458521
Do you use them with a sub? What size is your room? How is the Genelec sound?

>>62458536
I don't use them with a sub. My room is 15x15ft with 7.5ft ceiling. The genelec sound is neutral and non-fatiguing, like the memeheiser HD600.

>>62458170
They ued 't'oo many letters anon

>>62458616
What does that even mean?

>>62458521
I recently upgraded them with 7040 sub. it’s totally different story. it gives them very nice extension but in the same time you don’t notice it’s existence (after fine tuning)

>>62458521
> low frequency cut at 75 Hz
> 3"
> cost almost as much as most 8" out there
Are you well, anon?

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glorified shitbox here

>>62458747
how do they sound?

>>62458637
I have a yamaha sub (HS8S) that I have not hooked up to them yet, I hope they synergize well with the genelecs.

>>62458656
I didn't expect them to put out as much bass as my HS8, but thats easily alleviated by a subwoofer. Bass still packs a nice punch for its size, and it sounds better than the HS8 in my room.

Can I ask here for car speakers? I want to upgrade the speakers on my shitbox car but I can't find any info on it anywhere. My car is a Peugeot 108 that I bought two years ago and regretted it immensely ever since.

From what I can tell the door speakers are the 165mm type, but I have no idea about the dash speakers. I googled a lot and I found out the dash speakers are wired with a filter that sends low frequencies to the door speakers, and that's where I am going to abandon the project because I know jack shit about electronics.

>>62458784
Punchy bass is non existent

>>62458825
Whatever you do, don't place speakers in the rear shelf of your car. You know, the board-like thing above the trunk.

Best case, they sound like shit.
Worst case, they get loose and behead you.

>>62458170
tannoy is quite good

lsr is a meme -- cheap plastic will always have that sound

the real high quailty jbl monitors don't show up until you reach the $3000 a speaker range, and for those speakers you need a 5K amp to drive them properly

but don't let me convince you otherwise because the pajeet with the shitty or non-existent lsrs has a poseur self-image to uphold

notice how all these lsr shill threads have zero pics showing the device set up irl

yamahas are "good" also, the ones discussed, but they're still not really the high end for excellent fidelity and range

>>62458070
ive heard these before -- they're splendid but you need a living room the size of an entire regular house and an amp that costs more than a typical family's auto

most interesting set up is here:
>>62455653
because it is well balanced and versatile

>>62453649
looks gay

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>>62448110

Class D master race

>>62454811
audiophile spotted

>>62458283
Got any particular movies or songs that brings out the lower end?

I'm going through all of my library again.

>>62460076
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iF-5tvaVmvk
I always test the bass with this song

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>>62434363

>>62459603
>speaker that close to gas fire
I dunno mang...

>>62460491
Ooh, great channel, thanks.

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I'm in the market to get some floorstanding speakers, and I've been looking at a pair of Cambridge Audio SX80. Should I go for them or not?

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so which one black and red is right and which one is left?

m8s, i'm in a position where i'm funding a speaker purchase with audio work.

it isn't particularly demanding stuff, so really i could get away with picking up some dinky hs5's and call it a day, but i like to dabble in the musics and would like something nice.

should i just drop a 1.5 grand on some 8040s or be sensible and just get some hs8's (bearing in mind i could recoup the cost of 8040s in a month).

>>62464010
kh120
also try everything interesting in your budget at home with your setup, note how the kh120 are the best and send the rest back
that's the proper way to do it

>>62463980
[r]ed is [r]ight

>>62464288
b..bu...but they're so tiny

>>62464476
well if you need the bass exension you'll obviously pick something else, but for a desktop size they're as good as it gets

>>62464523
thing is, with monitors i have no idea where diminishing returns start to kick in.

e.g. for headphones i've got a pair of dt880s and hd600s, and i've decided i'm not going to spend more money as the price bump up doesn't make any sense.

so are things like the kh120s and 8040s actually worth putting down 1k more than yamahas or jbls?

>>62464611
with a good waveguided two way speaker like genelec 80xx or the kh120 you're getting very close to what is currently possible with a bookshelf/desktop size design without DSP (that's extra cost, see genelec 82/3xx series)
if the difference to something good at a lower price point is noticeable in your situation and setup is totally up to you but if you want to spent money on something accurate you might as well go as accurate as it gets for that money

>>62460076
https://youtu.be/EfBAsyeotn8

>>62464611
Diminishing returns hit hard in the $300-$500 range (remember, expemsive is not always better)
Above that you'll get more improvement with by room treatment or room eq via a receiver/mini dps hd

>>62465353
what exactly is challenging about some midbass kicks and your typical long ass boomy 808s? this is literally made for shitty car subwoofers with no impulse behavior
I blasted it at an ungodly volume though, that was fun

>>62465451
Nothing but it is fun to annoy the neighbors with, which I assumed was the same thing that you asked for.

I know how far my pb-2000 goes because I listen to horn and organ heavy classical goes, youtube doesnt really have much stuff like that with good audio quality.

Have Pioneer SP‑BS22‑LRs, wondering where I should go next for under a grand. Hoping for a recommendation that's powered and doesn't require a decent receiver.

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Behringer B2031A. Shameless Genelec rip off but sounds good. Paid $150 for the pair.

>>62465524
Wasn't me you replied to.

But I feel you, sadly some music is only available on youtube.

Did you notice improvement on your pb2000 after a reasonable amount of hours?
I've had mine running maybe 15hours of bass material now and the first hours had a noticeable difference.

>>62466021
You know I dont know, I rarely have it turned up really high unless I am having a stereo war with one of my neighbors.

I have noticed that my Q100s sounded better after about 100 or 150 hours though.

>>62466178
Unlike headphones, speaker burn in is a real thing

>>62466259
how is it different?

>>62464695
>>62465361
thx brers. i've ordered some HS8's in for now. i'll see how they sit for a couple of weeks.

if i don't like em, i'll send em back and get something in that 1-1.5k range in sometime in december.

if any one in the uk wants a decent deal on a pair of new hs8's there's a couple in white here for £420:
https://www.musicmatter.co.uk/yamaha-hs8-white-pair-with-isolation-pads-cables?gclid=CjwKCAjw9O3NBRB3EiwAK6wPT8OpXS1cxNjLzq9KV3_030oPkfXvQT-1f3BwyXv10TlyTZIm-W6ouhoC7lIQAvD_BwE

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>>62465760
I am gonna get cute boxes when I move to my new flat but it's only in the end of October reeeeeeeee.

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I'm using Monitor Audio Bronze BX2 and a BK Electronics Gemini II sub. I'm very happy with them, I actually don't feel any need to upgrade at all, unlike most of my other electronic shit which could always use an improvement in one way or another.

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I have the JBL memes and have been using them for a couple years.
What would be a reasonable upgrade from these? I'd like a little more bass but other than that it's hard to tell what I'd actually want improved since I don't know what better speakers sound like.
Passive speakers would also be nice, since I have some low level hiss with these.

>>62468280
jbl sub

>>62468280

If you want something solid and of the same size, then Genelec M030 or Genelec G Two. You really have to step up the price range if you want something actually better, the JBL does a good job for its price.

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Behringer MS40 here, pretty good coverage yo.

>>62436718
>>62436718
>>62436718

I want everyone to know I solved the issue!!!!

What would you all recommend for desktop speakers for a small to medium sized room for around $100?