/pcbg/ - PC Building general

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Don't be like me, if a hurricane is bearing down on your state don't just keep on gaymen. Unplug your shit, otherwise your gpu will get bricked at the minimum by the rolling brown outs.

What's the best budget x370 board with at least 8 sata ports for a R7?

Already have an AM4 compatible cooler so R7 1700x for better binned chips right?

Will most likely be only running 2666 ram but 4*16GB dimms, currently have 32gb DDR3 and I'm hitting over 20gigs when doing things.

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Threadly reminder that there's literally no reason whatsoever to buy the G4560, if you're going to use a GPU then you can get a Ryzen 1200 system for the same cost, if you're not going to use a GPU then you can get a AM4 APU at like $50.

If you're truly on a poverty tier budget then you can buy a used Dell Optiplex with an i5 3570 at like $100-150 and add a PSU and GPU and get better performance in games than the G4560 when you add a GPU.

How well does a Phenom II X6 1055 holds up these days?
Could it be decent in further 2-3 years too?

>>62425107
Holds up as well as a FX6300 and worse than a FX8350, aka absolute shit.

R3 1200/1300 will do better.

>>62425197
But 6 cores and much to OC, is it really that bad?

>>62425317
It really is. more cores doesn't mean much if the architecture is garbage. That's WHY AMD's new Zen architecure that underpins the new Ryzen, Ryzen Threadripper, and Epyc CPUs such a leap forward.
An entry level AMD Ryzen 3 1200, a 4 core, 4 thread CPU, is capable of matching or outperforing an FX-8350, nevermind a Phenom II X6.

>>62425107
Installed an RX570 alongside a phenom X6 II the gpu was held back by the CPU. Was not the case with a Ryzen 1200... 25% on average performance gain.

>>62425107
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2898-amd-phenom-ii-cpu-revisit-in-2017-x6-1090t-1055t?showall=1

Is a 144Hz monitor worth it when you don't play any games AT ALL?

>>62425523
The difference can be noticeable, but it's not really worth the money imo.

>>62425485
Just wanted to post this.
You will get playable fps (>30) in most games but ryzen 5 gives minimum the double.

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What connectors do I use to power my asus strix 1080ti (will be ocing up to near 2gz core clock in the future). It needs 2x 8pin power connectors.

My PSU (Coolermaster 1000w silent pro) is a bit aged and only has 6 pin PCIE interface other than its proprietary 5pin. I've ordered a few cables, which ones are safe to plug into the card?

- 6 pin male to 6+2 pin male
- 2x 6 pin male to 6+2 pin male
- 6 pin male to 2x 8 pin male
- 6 pin female to 2x 6+2 pin male

I currently have the last one have in handy however supplying 2x 150w cables from a 75w interface seems like an extremely bad idea.

Or should I just buy a new PSU instead?

Pic related is what I currently have. There's no included 8-pin interface.

looking at cheap laptops
Is the difference between GeForce 940MX DDR3 and 940MX GDDR5 noticeable?

>>62425614
Why don't you look at MX150 laptops?

>tfw I can't get my RAM to run at 3200MHz
Why does life hurt so much

>>62425668
Price gap too big

>>62425551
>2x 6 pin male to 6+2 pin male
If you were to chance it, I guess this would be ideal for spreading the load as much as possible over different wires and maybe rails.

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>>62425551
pls respond

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>>62425743
They are going to take another full month to ship from China though

Seriously trying to resist temptation to plug 6pin to 2x 6+2pin right now

Intel® Graphics is absolutely unusable even for browsing

>>62424551
Aorus k5

>>62425727
How low are we talking here?
MX150 laptops start at $609.99 without promo on newegg while 940MX laptops starts at $539.99 with promo and $595+ without

>>62425796
>Seriously trying to resist temptation to plug 6pin to 2x 6+2pin right now
I have a feeling you would want to resist that temptation if you value your PSU not exploding.
Also, make sure the wires you're ordering are actually legit and not some knockoff high gauge Chinese crap that is going to immediately short.

>>62424725
>s-stop buying i-intel

Is the crosshair vi worth the premium over the MSI gaming pro carbon?

>>62425872
show me a single Intel product worth buying at the moment.

>>62425876
Personally IMO if you're spending that much on a motherboard you might as well go HEDT

>>62424725
>if you're going to use a GPU then you can get a Ryzen 1200 system for the same cost,
The Ryzen system will be more expensive.

>>62425872
Fuck off nigger if you're purchasing a poorfag cpu like this better get a x4 950 for less and invest the rest of the money on a better gpu. BF1 won't even open with the pentium.

>>62425902
> HEDT
Not with that cpu usage

>>62425900
The Intel Pentium lineup offers similar performance to an R3 1200 for less cost. The 7700K is unmatched for gaming.
People that are new to the general should spend time lurking before making aggressive, absolutist statements.

>>62425952
The Ryzen 3 line up offers better value in the upgradability and the fact there's 4 physical cores.
Besides, NO ONE should buy a pentium. For the same price, you can buy a used i7 workstation, throw a new PSU and GPU at it and have a much better gaming PC.

>>62425911
LOL wut? you need to OC the x4 950 to 4.1GHZ to get comparable performance to the G4560 in BF1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXAHMRdGvMI

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>>62425911
>i-it hurts!!

>>62425983
>you can buy used
not a valid argument

>>62426028
yes, it is. The only reason to buy a Pentium is if you're on a tight budget.
If you're on a tight budget, buying a used pre built is the best thing you can do for the budget.

>>62425983
>The Ryzen 3 line up offers better value in the upgradability
An important consideration for the user.
>and the fact there's 4 physical cores.
This matters somewhat less. We're already tapping out 4 threads. It's not a situation like the R5s or R7s, where there is hope of future performance improvement. The R3s performance limits are what you see today.
>For the same price, you can buy a used i7 workstation
Not everyone wants a used machine with limited warranty that's not built to their spec.
Notice the general name? "PC Building general".

I'll tell you what I told you... yesterday? You can find plenty of *NEW* prebuilt machines, gleaming clean and with 1-2 year warranties, fantastic deals. People refuse them here.
If you were interested in showing prebuilts, I advise you find those deals to post here. I've seen KBL i5 machines with SSDs going for $400.

>>62425872
The i5 3570 isn't Intel? Why are you in this thread if you're this tech illiterate?

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I'm about to take the dive.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8JKQkT

Any suggestions before I drop dat ca$h?

>>62426080
>I'll tell you what I told you... yesterday?
I'm a different anon, anon.

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>overclocking helps with low 1%!
No it doesn't, got literally same results since the 1070 was the bottleneck.

>>62426101
If you intend on overclocking the chip yourself, get a 1700.
You probably don't need an X370 MB.
You don't need an 850W PSU based on the components here.

>>62426120
Apologies.

>>62426101
That cooler is overkill..
Change the 2TB Barracuda for the 3TB. better value for the money.
Beyong that, looks pretty.

>>62424541
is that a floppy penis

>>62426159
That's the state of Florida.

>>62424541
Ahahah, 'murifags don't know shit how to protect their stuff. That's pretty obvious to plug shit out turning any storm, even with proper protection, UPS, line filters, etc.

>>62425905
If you buy the absolute chepaest piece of shit components, yes. The G4560 costs $90 on Amazon and $100 on Newegg, the 1200 costs $105. The cheapest Intel B250 and AM4 A320 mATX motherboards costs $50, add $10 bucks more to the AMD motherboard and you get overclocking capabilites. If you can't stretch your budget with 15 bucks to get a vastly superior system then you probably shouldn't be looking at buying a new system in the first place and should buy used.

Did some more research on the
Asus Prime X370-Pro
Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K5


The X370-Pro has some really bad reviews, flaky bios updates, LEDs and boards out right dying, but has better VRMs but subpar ram compatibility?

The AX370 gaming K5 has BLCK (I don't really mind) less VRMs which isn't an issue as I'm not trying to hit max clocks but users report that they get really hot, also bios doesn't have proper voltage settings but better ram compatibility.

I really don't have the budget to shoot for a C6H or a Taichi as I've already stretched my budget quite a bit as I was originally looking at the AB350 Gaming 3 $94 but the shared NVME that disables 2 of the 6 sata irks me while the X370 gets 8 sata + NVME.

1700 is only $30 cheaper than the 1700x here, so I'm set on the 1700x for better binned chips and better stock clocks. I already have a compatible cooler so I have no need for the stock one on the 1700.

They don't sell the Gaming 5 here just the K5/K7 and the K7 is $216 compared to the K5s $159 while the X370-Pro is $162 next step up on the Asus side is the STRIX X370-F Gaming for $200 and has reports of being wildly unstable.

MSI doesn't have 8 sata even on their top end Titanium. AsRock only has 8 sata on the Taichi which costs $234 here.

I don't need the dual lan, wifi, dual audio or other gimmicks.

It wasn't this frustrating when I got my E3 Xeon 2~3 years ago, just picked up a Z97 forced multiplier to max on all cores and everything worked perfectly. Trying to upgrade because I need the cores, and will probably hit the 32gb ram limit soon.

>>62426293
>G4560 costs $90 on Amazon
You can get a G4600 for $85 in the US.
The difference in games between a G4600 and an R3 is very small, with the G4600 occasionally ahead.
>to get a vastly superior system
The R3 isn't vastly superior compared to a G4600 in gaming. They are, in fact, generally close. The big reason to spring $20 is for the platform support in the future, not really the performance. And that's a very user-specific interest.

>>62426028
Yes it is

>>62426080
>The R3s performance limits are what you see today.
Yes, that performance is much better than the G4560, especially outside of video games and for multitasking, for like 15 bucks more than what the G4560 currently go for. The only reason for why the G4560 got recommended over the 1200 is the iGPU and that point is moot now when AM4 APUs have been released for a much lower price than the G4560. And no, the performance isn't the focus for cheap APUs, it's to get on a modern platform so you can upgrade in the future.

>Notice the general name? "PC Building general".
People aren't building their own PCs because they like to tinker, they build them because they offer better value than prebuilds in 99% of cases. The G4560 offers no value whatsoever, especially not with its shit upgrade path.

>I'll tell you what I told you... yesterday? You can find plenty of *NEW* prebuilt machines, gleaming clean and with 1-2 year warranties, fantastic deals. People refuse them here.
Then I'll tell you what I told you yesterday before the thread 404'd, show me a new $300 prebuilt that has a 1050Ti and I'll start recommending that to people. Until then, getting a Dell Optiplex for $100-150, a 1050Ti for $150 and a PSU for $30-40 is infinitely better value, especially since you can just sell the Dell and use the PSU and GPU when you upgrade to a system in the future that doesn't have a crippled upgrade path.

I dunno about upgrading man, the masses will do just fine with a vanilla 1050 + G4560 for their CS:GO, Overwatch, and Rocket league and by the time they would want to upgrade, we'd be on DDR5

>>62424448
>Anime
Hi!
Go to hell.

>>62426474
>and that point is moot now when AM4 APUs have been released for a much lower price than the G4560
They also have atrocious performance when paired with a dGPU, while the Pentium does not. People usually want to use actual, discrete GPUs with their systems ITT. Uncommon to see people relying on the iGPU here.
>it's to get on a modern platform so you can upgrade in the future.
This is a super-specific requirement that many people will adamantly *not* want for their system. "Buy a crappy CPU you won't be happy with so you can stick with it for months on end while you build up the cash to buy a CPU worth having"? You will find very few takers. Don't even pretend that there are masses of people entering this thread looking for that specific use case. That's frankly bizarre, and probably a bad idea anyway.
>People aren't building their own PCs because they like to tinker
Continue recommending prebuilts. You'll find few people interested. It's not as though people don't know what Ebay is, and aren't aware of what's on offer.
>they build them because they offer better value than prebuilds in 99% of cases
Actually, they usually don't. As stated, you can find great deals on prebuilts that end up much cheaper than the equivalent custom system for the same performance. New.
>is infinitely better value
Used
No warranty
Old platform
Used prebuilts have never been recommended in this thread, because it's a fundamentally different bargain. The parts may die, it's a big hassle, and ultimately a gamble of convenience for money. Fuck, new prebuilts are rarely recommended and the practice has no traction. People want to build it themselves, and even if they didn't, they typically want it new anyways.

>>62426408
Yes, the Ryzen 3 performs similarly to the G4600 at stock, and takes a big steaming pile of shit on it when overclocked. You know what else performs similarly to the G4600 at stock and outperforms it in some titles? A Dell Optiplex with an i5 3570 that you can pick up for $100-150.

You have to have literal brain damage to buy a Pentium CPU in 2017 over the 1200 or a used enterprise machine.

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Why are all FE and reference 1080 ti's out of stock everywhere?

>>62426660
>and takes a big steaming pile of shit on it when overclocked
Unless you invest in another cooler, you're not going to overclock maximally with the bundled OEM design.
I don't know where you saw your numbers, but keep in mind it may also be skewed with high-frequency RAM, a requirement for getting the most out of the R3, and not a concern for the Pentium.

I am rebuilding my pc. I have a 4790k and a 290x. Thermals wise, should I use a case with side window and 2 top fans or a case with mesh side (and a fan on it) but no top fans?

>>62426645
>They also have atrocious performance when paired with a dGPU, while the Pentium does not. People usually want to use actual, discrete GPUs with their systems ITT.
Are you technologically illiterate or just lack basic reading comprehension? I'll assume the latter and spell it out for you very clearly:
The G4560 only got recommended over the 1200 because the G4560 has an iGPU.
If you are going to use a dGPU then you have literally no reason whatsoever to get the G4560 over the 1200.
If you aren't going to use a dGPU with your PC then you are better off with getting the AM4 Bristol Ridge CPUs now so you can upgrade to Raven Ridge when it gets released which will take a big steaming dump on the Pentium lineup.
Do you understand?

>"Buy a crappy CPU you won't be happy with so you can stick with it for months on end while you build up the cash to buy a CPU worth having"?
You're aware that that was the main selling point for the G4560, right? That you can get a CPU that performs adequately now and upgrade to the 7700k later? That doesn't apply now because if you can afford the G4560 then you can afford the 1200.

The advice for buying a crappy CPU now and upgrading it later is aimed for people who actually are on poverty tier budgets and don't want to buy used. If they're going to complain about how budget CPUs perform like budget CPUs but don't want to buy used then that's their problem.

>Continue recommending prebuilts. You'll find few people interested.
Do you really think there are more people here who want to tinker with building their own computers and not just want the best bang for buck to play PC games?

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>>62426645
>>62426910
>Actually, they usually don't. As stated, you can find great deals on prebuilts that end up much cheaper than the equivalent custom system for the same performance. New.
Nope, because prebuilts always skimp in one area or the other.

>Used
>No warranty
>Old platform
You don't magically become correct just because you keep spouting the same words. Even buying a used and old platform is better value than buying a G4560 system, especially since the G4560 will also be on an old platform as soon as Coffee Lake is released. You just said it yourself that getting on a modern platform is something that many people adamantly do not want, so are you going to make up your mind?

> The parts may die
Because that can't happen if you buy new, right?

> it's a big hassle
So is putting together your own PC for many people as well, but they still do it.

>>62426730
Yes, you are, the stock cooler have no problem hitting the 4.0 Ghz limit on Ryzen CPUs. Why are you even in this thread and giving people advice when you don't even know the first thing of what you're talking about?

>>62426660
Not everyone lives in the states and can buy Dell Optiplexes, hell Dell doesn't even sell prebuilts here.

Also, I'm not the guy that has been arguing with you but AMD in the asia markets is so fucking expensive you wonder if AMD even wants to sell their shit outside the US.

R7 1700 retails for $356 USD here while the i7-7700K retails for $335 USD.
i7-7700 retails for $302 USD
I've tried many times to recommend something like the R5 1600/1600X $255/$295 but one look at benchmarks and they choose the i5 7500 $192, even over the R3 1300X at $156, as for the really budget buyers they'd still pick a G4560 at $66 over the $129 R3 1200

People not buying prebuilts here are so two sided it's not even funny, they either have their computer for a fucking long time (still lots of C2D and C2Qs) or they upgrade it every 2~3 years.

Oh and RX580 8Gs here are $315 USD and the stores that have stock will only sell to people buying full PCs rest are sold out.
Vega 56 at $565
Vega 64 at $700
Vega 64 Water at $765 limited to full PC bundles.

Meanwhile
GTX 1060 3G/6G $195/235
GTX 1070 $425
GTX 1080 $528
GTX 1080TI $830

All of the above prices are in USD converted from my local currency.
Lots of people buy $200~300 GPUs every 2~3 years.

Seems like most of the people on /g/ forget that there is a world out there with a hell of a lot of people buying sub $500 and $500~700 PCs

Any good 4k monitors with HDR yet?

>>62426949
I know, I'm in Europe and Ebay is crawling with prebuilts here. As long as you have any kind of used market you're going to be able to find better deals than getting a G4560 build, even the i5 2500 still performs better than the G4560

>experience segfault, CPU is flawless otherwise
>send in Ryzen 1700 for RMA
>getting them to accept the RMA is a couple of days and a few images of cooling etc, overall basically painless
>they give me a shipping label, I print it out, send off the CPU last week
>"we have one prepped and ready to go, we'll send it off the day you send yours off"
>they didn't plan for Irma at all, shipping label is to Miami
>7 days later, no CPU, despite promises they'd send me one as soon as they got the notification that the CPU was in Fedex's hands
>emailing them 1x per day, they finally get back to me, "we'll get you one from an alternate warehouse"
>this was 2 days ago
>no communication since then
How can I raise a stink about this
They should've had some sort of plan for the goddamn hurricane that has been talked about nonstop for weeks before it even hit
It's now been more than a week and I still don't have my part, despite the old CPU being "delivered" according to Fedex
wtf, AMD

I have a GTX 745 and an HD 6870. An R7 360 is on sale for $40. Should I get one as an upgrade to wait out the drought?

>>62426003
Retard, you don't pair a poorfag CPU with a 1080

>>62426935
>Nope, because prebuilts skimp
And yet you're recommending prebuilts. These not only skimp, but they're used. An even greater chance of something going wrong.
>Even buying a used and old platform is better value than buying a G4560 system
Performance? Yes. Taking into account you're buying a computer that was probably shoddy in quality when new, and now is used which increases the chance it may die, may use OEM components as standard which complicates replacement, uses an older platform which may be missing features like multiple SATA 3, M.2, DDR4, it doesn't look to be that great a deal, and may not be one at all.
>You just said it yourself that getting on a modern platform is something that many people adamantly do not want
Buying into a new platform for the sake of it is not something people necessarily want. But we're jumping from "buying new platform" to "buying new", and that's a massive leap. If the Ivy Bridge PC was right out of box, it would be a different story
>Because that can't happen if you buy new
There is a wide canyon between used and new, especially when dealing with questionable quality of innards you see on Dell and HP machines.
>So is putting together your own PC for many people as well, but they still do it.
Putting together a machine is more fun that trying to troubleshoot a dead one. It gets even less fun if the machine uses proprietary components that don't conform to ATX.
>Yes, you are, the stock cooler have no problem hitting the 4.0 Ghz limit on Ryzen CPUs
lolno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGsbV2X749E&feature=youtu.be

>but AM4 is supported until 2020!
This is an argument that is often pushed around here despite being completely stupid in 99% of the cases as it's likely your mobo will die out passed 2020 and you'll want to upgrade to something else anyway.

Buy what you need right now and what will last you enough time depending on your income and that's it, don't fall for stupid memes such as "uh I'm totally gonna upgrade my CPU in 3 years and put it inside my dying mobo!".

>>62426985
I5 2500
4G
500G HDD
$150

Not many people are willing to buy used computers though.
Especially parents buying shit for their kids saying they must buy new. and then they say they have an absurdly low budget.

G4560
Gigabyte H110M-DS2V
ADATA DDR4-2400 8G*1
Toshiba 1TB 7200RPM
Kingston UV400 120G
GALAX GTX 1060 3G
CM RC102 Case
CM MasterWatt Lite 500W
$565 swap out with an i5-7500 $690
Some people opt for a better case like the MasterBox Lite 3.1 for $20 bux more, some might drop down to a 1050/TI $109/$145 but these are the type of computers most people buy here on a budget. A lot of people don't understand the benefits of even a cheap SSD and even after an explanation and showing them a system with a SSD, opt to drop it.

I've tried so hard to push the AM4 platform but all they do is play shit games and look at FPS charts.

Prices here might seem expensive to people in the states because everything gets jacked up here.

Just built my first PC and I need a quick rundown on something.

So, will running my graphics on lower settings make my cpu hotter since less strain is put on the gpu? How does this work?

>>62427411
nigga what

You don't push power onto components. CPU/GPU etc draw power based on their needs.

>>62426910
>The G4560 only got recommended over the 1200 because the G4560 has an iGPU.
Where did you hear this?
The Pentium lineup performs extremely closely with the R3. In fact, surpassing it in gaming in some titles.
>If you are going to use a dGPU then you have literally no reason whatsoever to get the G4560 over the 1200.
Nonsense. The Pentium is cheaper for similar performance.
>You're aware that that was the main selling point for the G4560, right?
No. The Pentium is a decent performer in gaming in its own right. Bristol Ridge isn't.
>If they're going to complain about how budget CPUs perform like budget CPUs but don't want to buy used then that's their problem
There's no need to accept the AMD's inferior competition in Bristol Ridge when there's a viable Intel option that performs substantially better. You save slightly but the difference is significant.

>>62427468
what the fuck Victor Lu, get back to work

>>62427437
Yeah, stupid question I know. I was asking because I've been running games on medium-ish even though I could easily run high/very high because I was trying to keep temp down. I was told it would be better to run high/very high because it puts more strain on the gpu

>>62427290
Good goy.

>>62427277
>And yet you're recommending prebuilts. These not only skimp, but they're used. An even greater chance of something going wrong.
I'm recommending enterprise machines, not new builds that are designed to scam 12 year olds out of money by having huge stupid cases and LED lights on it. I really hope you realize that there's a difference between buying something with compromises at the $500-1000 price point and the $100-300 price point. Hell, even buying a new PC and building it yourself means you have to deal with compromises until you get to around the $800 price point.
> Taking into account you're buying a computer that was probably shoddy in quality when new
I'm still recommending enterprice machines, you know, the kind of machines professionals use to do actual work on and not made for children playing video games?
>uses an older platform which may be missing features like multiple SATA 3, M.2, DDR4, it doesn't look to be that great a deal, and may not be one at all.
Do you really think people who have less than $300 to spend on a computer cares about any of that? Aren't you the one who's sitting here and telling me that people don't care about getting on new platforms?
>Buying into a new platform for the sake of it is not something people necessarily want
Nope, which is why they're better off buying used to get better performance for less money.
>Putting together a machine is more fun that trying to troubleshoot a dead one. It gets even less fun if the machine uses proprietary components that don't conform to ATX.
Indeed, and you're more likely to fuck up if you buy a new PC without knowing how to build one, and the full sized versions of Dell Optiplex conforms to ATX.
>lolno
>Using a single outlier when nobody else have been getting the same conclusions as they did, not even with the Ryzen 5 1400 that uses the same cooler
Wow, you really showed me there

>>62427505
No
Strain may shorten gpu life that's all
But that all depends on your hardware, power supply, gpu power phases and more

If you don't overclock on a modern GPU running high settings has negligible effect other than heat output and power draw

>>62427445
As of now Pentium is overpriced pile of trash, get over it.

>>62427505
GPUs like *constant* temperature below the maximum heat threshold (80C on most cards). If you keep it at 75C 24/7 it'll be much happier than jumping between 30 and 70C dozens of times a day.

>>62427445
>The Pentium lineup performs extremely closely with the R3. In fact, surpassing it in gaming in some titles.
It only performs similarly in video games and gets smashed in everything else, and with an overclock it pulls ahead by a longshot in video games as well, especially when using a 1060 and above.
>Nonsense. The Pentium is cheaper for similar performance.
If you literally only want to use your PC as a video game console then just get a used Dell Optiplex, replace the GPU and PSU in it and you have a better CPU for games while costing a lot less money.
>No. The Pentium is a decent performer in gaming in its own right. Bristol Ridge isn't.
It performs well enough in games to justify the low price, if you only play esports titles then it's enough, if you play heavier titles then the 1200 is better than the G4560.
>There's no need to accept the AMD's inferior competition in Bristol Ridge when there's a viable Intel option that performs substantially better. You save slightly but the difference is significant.
The G4560 isn't viable when the 1200 costs basically the same and performs much better across the board as well as being supported until at least 2020. If you're only going to use your G4560 without a dGPU then you probably don't do anything intensive enough that warrants the extra CPU performance from the G4560 over the Bristol Ridge APUs.

>>62427228
> R7 360
It's 16% faster than the 750 ti so yes

>>62427560
>>62427601
I was talking more about the CPU. I thought that by having my graphics set to medium it puts less strain on the gpu and more on the cpu, thus making the cpu hotter. Judging by your responses that isn't how it works.

Sorry for the dumb question and thanks

All this shitflinging back and forth just makes me more hyped for the Raven Ridge APUs, they're going to be a gamechanger for poorfag builds when even the iGPU on the Bristol Ridge APUs shits on Intels iGPUs on Pentiums up to the i7.

>>62426101
>x370
>watercooling
>buying windows
No.

>>62427523
>I'm still recommending enterprice machines,
Business PCs, in the interest of appealing to bottom lines, do not tend to be more reliable than consumer PCs. The main draw is additional support tools available for both the OEM and the administrator in troubleshooting. These features would be useless for our purposes.
>Aren't you the one who's sitting here and telling me that people don't care about getting on new platforms?
I never said that people don't care about new platforms, only that people wouldn't pay for the sake of it, like paying for a crappy CPU that doesn't do what you want just for the sake of AM4
If you could produce an Ivy Bridge system new, today, for the prices you find them used, people would be all over them. People aren't all over these. Because they're used and have no warranties.
>which is why they're better off buying used
You are ignoring the, consequences, definite and potential, of buying used. I'm not.
>you're more likely to fuck up if you buy a new PC without knowing how to build one
That's what guides are for. Very rare to hear about mistakes if people do. Not at all uncommon to hear about prebuilts off ebay exploding.
Wow, you really showed me there
Feel free to show a credible review showing differently.

>>62427579
The G4600 can be found for a reasonable price.

>>62427619
>It only performs similarly in video games
A) Guess what most people build machines for ITT.
B) Running Premier on an R3 is agonizing anyway, and not really a serious use.
>and with an overclock it pulls ahead by a longshot in video games as well
Without fast RAM, it's not terribly impressive. And you're probably not hitting 4.0 stable with the Wraith.
>If you literally only want to use your PC as a video game console then just get a used Dell Optiplex
Ignoring multiple disadvantages of buying used. They may not matter to you. They may matter to others, and, spoiler, probably do.

>>62425677
What's your mobo and CPU?

>defending G4560
>R 1200 can be bought for roughly the same price and it comes with a cooler included

>>62424448
>G4560 - poverty-tier builds
That processor costs almost $100 now.

how long does the AM4 bracket take to ship from Cryorig! Have a 1400 and not sure if I want an aftermarket cooler yet. Haven't started building yet so I'm not sure what temps I'm gonna get

>>62427619
>It performs well enough in games to justify the low price
Not with a dGPU. It performs atrociously then. Judging by the number of people pairing their Pentiums with cards like a 1050ti, it shows that people expect performance at that price point, and Bristol Ridge cannot deliver.
>The G4560 isn't viable when the 1200 costs basically the same and performs much better across the board
It doesn't perform much better across the board. It performs slightly better for slightly more. Not a bad buy. Not a must buy.
>as well as being supported until at least 2020
The AM4 socket will be supported until 2020. I don't believe it is not known if the chipsets will be supported until then, but you can correct me.
>If you're only going to use your G4560 without a dGPU.
Almost nobody does that ITT, but I agree that if a user was interested only in using the iGPU Bristol Ridge is definitely the better buy.

>>62427866
Stock cooler is really good

>>62427866
Do the brackets not come with the motherboard?

>>62427895
This.

Don't waste money on an aftermarket cooler. If you plan the OC it might be a good idea but otherwise the stock cooler is very good.

my mobo comes in two hours and I can finally start building.

>>62427918
No Cryorig has to ship you one. You have to show proof that you own an AM4 motherboard and a Cryorig cooler. I just heard in the beginning it took over a month to ship but wasn't sure how long it was taking these days.

>>62427895
I hear it's not bad but I figured it'd still cut off at least 10C. I'm kind of worried how hard it is to install an aftermarket cooler after the system has already been built.

>>62427945
I was hoping to, maybe not right away but soon. Shooting for 3.8Ghz at least.

>>62427949
Have fun

>>62427975
Well that's stupid. I currently have my 1600 on the stock cooler and I get a respectable 55-60 degrees gaming. I was thinking about upgrading to a cryorig but fuck that. I thought you coul use the mb brackets to mount it

>>62427807
>only that people wouldn't pay for the sake of it, like paying for a crappy CPU that doesn't do what you want just for the sake of AM4
Except that people do, why else would AMD release shitty Bristol Ridge based CPUs when Raven Ridge is around the corner?
>If you could produce an Ivy Bridge system new, today, for the prices you find them used, people would be all over them. People aren't all over these. Because they're used and have no warranties.
Yeah, it's definitely not because a vast majority of people don't look at used hardware and knows what kind of deals can be found. People just love to spend more money to get worse performance for the tasks they do.
>You are ignoring the, consequences, definite and potential, of buying used. I'm not.
You haven't given a single good reason for why there's a problem with buying used other than "hurr durr it's going to explode the second you recieve it when it's been running flawlessly for years before that".
>Feel free to show a credible review showing differently.
How about every single review since nobody else have been getting the same results?
https://youtu.be/SfTcJitmbZM

>>62428024
is your 1600 OC'd? I was hoping to not go over 65ish myself. But yeah it's bs. Maybe I'll wait and see if they ever put the bracket in the retail packaging before getting one.

>>62427878
>Not with a dGPU. It performs atrociously then. Judging by the number of people pairing their Pentiums with cards like a 1050ti, it shows that people expect performance at that price point, and Bristol Ridge cannot deliver.
You mean the same price point as the 1200? No shit Bristol Ridge doesn't deliver the same performance when it costs half as much.
>It doesn't perform much better across the board. It performs slightly better for slightly more. Not a bad buy. Not a must buy.
There's not even a competition when it comes to multitasking and multithreaded workloads, and the advantage the G4560 has in video games goes out the window the second you overclock.
>>62427878
>The AM4 socket will be supported until 2020. I don't believe it is not known if the chipsets will be supported until then, but you can correct me.
I meant that the AM4 socket will be supported, but there's no reason to think the chipsets won't be supported as well.
>>62427878
>Almost nobody does that ITT, but I agree that if a user was interested only in using the iGPU Bristol Ridge is definitely the better buy.
Exactly, so there's no reason to buy the G4560 over the 1200 if you're going to use a GPU.

>>62428121
My 1600 is not OC but I may need to reapply paste/remount the cooler. I haven't gone over 65 though.

Why are APUs the "new big thing"? Why don't manufacturers just put a GPU on the motherboard chipset like they used to? Why do CPU makers instead insist on putting it on the same die as the CPU where it does nothing but take up space when you're not using it and throttle your CPU to shit when you are? Why is this industry so retarded? Why does nobody even remember the days when an iGPU on the motherboard from ATi was almost as good as Nvidia's overpriced mid range discrete stuff?
Is it just an issue with chipset GPUs not being able to access the system RAM?
I feel like someone fucking memoryholed motherboard iGPUs.

>>62427975
I'm using stock cooler with my [email protected] at 100% load it reaches about 75C, but most of the time even when streaming games I reach only about 30% usage.

>>62428448
75 is starting to get a little hot

>>62428436
The direction the PC design industry is facing is an increasingly modular one
Manufacturers make money off it and consumers like the flexibility

who /waiting for Zen2/ here?

>>62426385
The Taichi actually has 10 sata ports.

The cheaper x370 boards all seem to have build quality issues, no matter which one you get. Maybe you could get one of the better b350 boards and add a sata expansion card if you need more ports.

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>>62428690
/waiting for coffee lake/ here senpai

How do I into MiniITX HTPC?

>>62428548
My i5 2400 was running at 90s and was doing fine. I'm not concerned by 75

>>62428764
lol

>>62428788
lol

>>62427845
83€ on amazon.
Ryzen 1200 is at 119.

And the pentium is still better for destitute usage (poorfag gaming, single core tasks, office work, etc).

> 2017
> still no 8/16tb ssds
why

>>62426101
A 600W gold rated PSU is more than enough for that build
Ditch the watercooler, get a decent air cooler for a cheaper price, most ryzen chips can OC to 3.9 or 4 GHz on air coolers
Fucking pirate or buy a cheap key of w10

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So who came up with this design first?

Quick question guys.
is the Cooler Master Blizzard T2 ok for the Ryzen 1700x?

>>62428932
me desu

>>62428932
People who read a boor on fluid dynamics and thought to reduce radial flow,

>>62428933
I don't even know if it's compatable with AM4. If you get 1700x I am guessing that you plan to OC and it apparently struggles with that.
So I would say no and go buy something more powerful.

>>62428870
Seagate has 64TB SSDs. Up from the 60TB last year.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11699/seagate-refreshes-enterprise-ssds-with-3d-nand

>>62428933
No, even the Hyper 212 will chug with the 1700X when overclocked.

What's the highest temperature my 1600 should hit while gaming? Like at what temp should I start being worried

>>62428870
>>62429405
60-64TB SSDs are outrageously expensive.
Also just because those sizes exist doesn't mean that the sizes in between exist. And when they do you could buy a car for the same price.

>>62429510
Well Samsung sells 8TB~16TB SSDs

>>62428436

space, price and battery drain

igpus are just more efficient overall.

>>62429540
To servers, maybe. They don't exist in the consumer world.
And they do cost more than cars.

>>62429566
Well, I guess people will have to make due with 4TB $1.5K consumer SSDs off of Newegg until some manufacturer decides to trickle 6~8TB drives down.

>>62429467
max safe temp under load for a daily oc for ryzen is 75, for gaming i would start to worry above 55c, since it isnt that intensive, gaming and streaming above 65-68ish. but thats just me

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>Bitcoin crashed
>Hard
>Like a meteor hard

>>62429801
Holy fucking shit
You're absolutely right

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>>62429759
I get around 60-65 gaming

>>62429910
cooler, clocks, voltage?

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>>62429876
From 5K to 2.5K and falling.

My schadenfreude is firing on all cylinders.

>>62429990
All stock. I should maybe invest in a better cooler.

>>62430049
its likely your motherboard is bumbping up your voltages way higher than they need to be. try undervolting your chip down to like 1.30 and going from there, you shouldnt be getting that hot, unless you have truly horrible airflow. My 1600 at 3.7 with the stock cooler was maxing around 68c in ibt.

>>62430080
How would I do that? With Ryzen master or in bios? I have a MSI B350 Tomahawk if that changes anything.

My voltage doe jump around quite a bit in Ryzen Master.

>>62430172
its better to do it in bios, look up a ryzen overclocking guide and go from there my dude, its pretty easy no worries

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>>62428754
B350 boards share lanes out the wazoo, and most only have 4 sata ports, the gigabyte B350s have sata 5/6 sharing with M.2 and PCI-E

So B350 is a big NOPE if you're looking for NVME+SATA+Expansion cards.

>>62430005
>5K to 2.5K
how old are you? get back to me when its a dollar again

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>want to build a pc
>absolutely frightened of hooking up PSU cables through system/cable management
guess I will never genocide barbarians in 4k@60

>>62430397
If it falls that far I'll probably be found dead, naked, spread out on a bed, and covered in my own semen.

The joy of seeing it burn away to nothing will be too much for me.

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>>62427848
because @ $60 it literally obliterated intels own product line + OEM partners shilling $600 i3 shitboxes

How shitty are the Vega blower fans? At this point the 1070s aren't cheap enough for me to justify the telling my inner AMDfanboy to settle. When are the partner cards coming out?

So how long is it gonna be until GPU prices drop?

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>>62430528
What do you mean they're already out?

>>62426737
can someone please answer me?

>>62430575
Q3 2018 or thats what Samsung states.

>>62430591
Ones with the decent coolers I meant

>>62430591
Those are reference cards, brainlet

is it wise to vertically mount my GPU using a riser cable? I mean is there any downsides on this idea?

>>62425551
Seems a bit sketchy I would just order a new power supply. But I am no expert so dont take me too seriously

How do I boot Ubuntu from BIOS on a ASUS B350 prime plus?

Should I use the low noise adapter on my NH-U12S?

>>62430485
That's what you're worried about? It's really zero risk and easy as fuck.

>tfw you're going to use your TV as a monitor because you have limited funds and limited space
>tfw everyone keeps telling you it's a bad idea

Will there really be a noticeable difference?

>>62431065
It depends on what you are playing for some things.
If your TV is less than 1080p 60hz yes you are fucked

how come my build can't get higher than 60fps on shitty graphic games like League of Legends at high settings? Even if I uncap the fps.

>gtx 1060 6gb
>Ryzen 5 1600
>16gb ram

feels bad mang

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>>62431202
>If your TV is less than 1080p 60hz yes you are fucked

Fuck.

>>62431211
I have:

>Ryzen 1600
>1050ti
>8gb ram

and I get 60fps/high on most things I have tried. On Siege I get 120fps on high. My only problem is I run at about 60C-65C which is a little too hot for my likings.

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>>62427945
You can even OC decently with the stock cooler, my r7 1700 runs at 40-60C with a 3700GHz OC

Please invest in a high refresh rate monitor when buying a new gaming PC.

I bought a 240hz monitor as my second display and only now I feel like the money I spent on my PC actually made the difference(144hz would probably be more than enough though).

>>62431211
You fucked up something hard. This should be able to run even the newest games at 60fps at max settings.

>>62427848
$56 at Microcenter.

>>62430172
Don't use Ryzen Master, is buggy as hell and unstable.
Go to the BIOS and mess around with the voltages, my r7 1700 can run stable at ~1.325V.
My recommendation is starting with 1.3V @ 3600GHz, do an aida64 stability test, if it's successful ramp up the clockspeed, if it fails ramp up voltage. From what I recall reading on reviews is that most 1600 can reach 3900GHz with the stock cooler and 4000GHz if you're lucky

>>62431211
What is your full specs?

>>62431516
>>62431352
>>62431240
This is my full build, minus the keyboard I didn't end up getting

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DcbfgL

I can easily get 60 fps on League at max settings, but shit I thought I'd be getting around 80 at least.

>>62431456
I want to lower the voltage to get a lower temperature, not OC. That other anon was saying my temp might be high because my mobo is volting more then needed

>>62431345
From what I've heard about 240hz it's less obvious when you try it and more obvious when you go back to 144hz
I would reccomend higher resolution over insane refresh rates though

>>62431571
Something isn't right. You should be very easily getting +100 fps.

>>62431571
Yeah you must have fucked something up

>>62431571
>ASRock - Fatal1ty
Here's your problem it only works well for shooters, mainly quake.

>>62431605
>>62431620
well, what could I be doing wrong? What are the possible reasons why?

I've been using it for a few months now and it's hasn't exploded yet at least

>>62431575
You can probably run @3000GHz with <1.1V, start with that baseline and check if you're hitting a decent temp

>>62431627
are you drivers up to date?

>>62424448
I need a USB bluetooth dongle. I don't like the one I have. Can someone recommend the absolute highest performance and range bluetooth dongle available, regardless of price?
I have USB3.1 ports available if that makes a difference in how many devices I can reliably connect at once.

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Heya, anon with new 1060 3gb build from yesterday here.

I just noticed the speed the ram is running at. It's suppose to be 2400, but its running at that pic related/red marked area. Is that normal? Comp was having issues turning on yesterday but seems fine now, but damned if I'm running at that shit speed.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232540

is the ram and is on the MB's QVL and without OCing.

Good 1440p Freesync monitor? 60hz is ok.

>>62431698
What is your price range?

>>62426235
>his sample size is one person
That's not very scientific.

>>62431571
have you properly configured RAM? Most high speed RAM is actually just regular RAM the manufacturer tested under load and thinks is stable enough to use at higher speed.
run some logging software to see what your part temps are and whatever's hottest is probably also bottlenecking itself

>>62431706
As cheap as possible.

>>62431689
speccy is shit for dual-channel memory, it actually cuts the speed in half. whatever your bios says is right

>>62431689
DDR stands for Double Data Rate
It is running at 2400mhz

>>62431768
>>62431771
Alrighty, thanks anons you are nice guys. May your dating be fruitful.

>>62431698
>>62431735
You have 5 options under $500; 3 under $400.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&i=50&A=2&sort=price&X=0,49108

It's for gaming. Maximum I'm willing to spend on a 580 when prices lower is 300$, so that's why that's there.
1400$ budget.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7vnBCy

>>62432251
>580
>with 4k monitor
lmao you can get gtx1070 with that budget

>>62432306
I need to learn to fucking read. Didn't realize it was 4k, sorry.

>>62432251
If you want to cut costs don't get an NVMe drive (the performance is not better than AHCI in games) or a 2160p monitor.

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What case is this? I found it on the street. Has what I believe is a Pentium 4 inside.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fjbz4C

this is a modified version of a build i posted last week

>>62432582
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fjbz4C
What's it for and what's your budget?

>>62432582
any reason why you picked that monitor? you could do something like this: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4QPTKZ

>>62432731
>16:9
I think he picked it because it was an affordable modern 16:10.

>>62432829
>affordable
Those few extra pixels do not justify the price tag.

is it possible to import my amazon cart to partpicker or do I have to pick each part
t. lazy fuck

>>62432829
why not just get two 1080p monitors for the same price instead?

>>62432903
As far as I know it isn't
Amazon doesn't always label specific model numbers

>>62432551
Manufacturer? Look on the bottom maybe?
Open it up and take a picture of the components.

>>62424448
Ryzen 7 or ThreadRipper?

>>62432931
16:10 is the Golden Ratio

>>62433036
For what?
1700x is basically the end of improvements in gaming performance.

>>62433102
That is fucking retarded

>>62433114
You are fucking retarded.

>>62433120
I am not the one who wants to throw my money away

>>62433132
Neither am I, I'm not the guy who posted the build.

I have a question about airflow lads
Is one exhaust fan in the rear enough? is this a good air-flow plan? I want to put three in-take 120mm fans on front, two 140mm intake fans on the bottom, 280mm cpu cooler on top of the case. This leaves only one exhaust fan in the rear
I see alot of people actually doing this and it confuses me, is it a viable air-flow strategy?

>>62433107
Gaming, VMs, programming (personal projects, apps, games, etc), blender to go with the games making.

hello friends


i recently build my old computer back up, and it has a 1gb 7850 . I was wondering if the rx 560 4gb would be worth it.


This is my secondary build, my main has a 1700x and a 390 .

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>>62433022
>cable management space behind motherboard
>completely unused
>case fans either removed or never in there
Front says Heden, seems like it's a long discontinued model from a company that no longer makes cases.

>>62433212
I would heavily consider threadripper, if you think you would benefit. Threadripper was made to be mixed use so you sound like you would fit under its intended use cases.

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So this fatty finally came in today

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>>62424448
why did you use the /r/ sticky image?

Is there a mATX AM3+ MOBO that isn't total garbage? I have an 8350 and a nice mATX case.

>>62433169

For the 280mm CPU cooler (assuming that's a 2x140mm AIO radiator), are the fans act as intake or exhaust? If it is the latter your airflow is like this:

Intake: 3 x 120mm (front), 2 x 140mm (bottom), and 2 x 140mm (top)
Exhaust: 120mm (back) and whatever you have for PSU

While positive pressure is a viable strategy (Intake > Exhaust to prevent dust build up) but you don't want the difference to be too big, so you might want to do the following

Intake: 3 x 120mm (front) and 2 x 140mm (bottom)
Exhaust: 2 x 140mm (top), 120mm (back), and whatever you have for PSU

To learn more search for videos about Positive and Negative Pressure on Youtube

>>62433244
Don't get the RX 560 and go for the 1050 Ti. Faster and better performance.

>tfw last of my parts coming tomorrow but I have to work 4 consecutive days starting tomorrow, might not be able to start until Monday evening

I can't take it any longer!

>>62433337
that fin density looks like shit

>>62433337
holy fucking yuck!

i'm build a nd PC and cryptofags are runing everything. I was planing on getting a RX580 with a free sync moniter. but fuckers want £300 for one. for 30 quid more i could have a 980ti for £50 more i could have a 1070. This fucks my budget though because Gsync moniters cost more.

So my question is is freesync/gsync a meme? is the 980ti still worth it? should i just bite the bullit and "pre-order" a RX580 from amazon to get that free sync?

>>62433476
Gsync is a meme iirc

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>>62433451
>>62433438

Fans are off, about to tear my 1080 ftw apart now

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>>62433434
waiting for the last piece to arrive because the warehouse fucked up my order

Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BV31QU8/ref=psdc_572238_t1_B003YVJJ5Y?th=1

Are there any good 4K HDR monitors out yet? Or would a TV suffice?

>>62433532
>>62433434
on my first build the parts got rerouted "at request of recipient"

>>62431592
I have a 1440p IPS monitor, the 240hz is just for games.

The 1080p pixel density is too low when sitting close, it's instantly noticeable. But it's actually pretty nice when I sit back in my chair and relax.

But the biggest surprise for me was that the colors and viewing angles in particular are quite good - my only real comparison for TN panels is a cheap laptop I bought for under $500 like three years ago, and that has a barely usable screen. This one however is perfectly usable and outside of the low resolution could work as a single monitor solution just fine.

I think a modern 1440p 144hz TN monitor is probably the best solution if someone's looking for a single monitor, affordable solution that fits all use cases.

>>62432606
>>62432731
the build is for graphic design

>>62433585
Looks like shit.

>>62433637
I don't care about looks, anon. 3 fans and cable management space behind the MOBO for $40 is why I'm looking at it.

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>>62433532
I had Newegg cancel my order for no reason but I was able to re-order it. Hopefully everything came okay and nothing needs to be RMA'd

>>62433598
damn that sucks. I'm always afraid of the carrier screwing something up. The mailman kept leaving my packages next to my mailbox instead of bringing them to my door. Good thing it wasn't raining and it's not visible from the road or someone could steal it

>>62433476
No adaptive sync is not a meme but goy-sync is a jewish trick

>>62433504
fins look bent as shit on the left

>>62433857

Yeah it's pretty bad, just sent an email to get it RMA'd, how disappointing.

>>62433920
should go with the morpheus instead if you can and return this POS, fin density is trash and it's really just for people who want a cheap replacement for the stock cooler. Your FTW cooler should be performing similarly

>>62433967

Due to my case set up, I was going to take Accelero fans off and apply my own and run them in exhaust, can;t do that with FTW stock cooler.

>>62433980
what
pics of your case setup pls this sounds ridiculous

>>62433782
That's what I was think. Thanks man. You've helped me make up my mind.

What's the best OS to use? It'll be Windows, because I'm to stupid to use anything, but I hate the likes of 8 and 10 everything about it seems babbified to the point of garbage. Am I fine to just stick with 7?

>>62434075

It depends on the platform since newer Intel and AMD ones don't officially support Windows 7 anymore so getting 7 to work with them can be extremely difficult

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>>62433995

Not my build, but this was the idea. Have a 240mm rad on side, with open air gpu on bottom. Currently gpu can't exhaust air efficiently so it's feeding itself hot air and heating up the radiator. Plan is to have fans as intake on 240mm radiator and fans below gpu exhasuting hot air through the bottom. Pretty known setup between ncase community on ITX forums, supposed to drop temps dramatically and reduce sound.

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>>62434150
actually looks interesting, good luck but if there's room for the Morpheus in the same setup I'd use that. I'm not sure, it might be too tall/long.

What's the cheapest fan that can handle an FX8350 undervolted and locked to 4.0GHz?

I think I might be getting in over my head with this stuff.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9DKDYr

>>62434142
Shit. I had read something along those lines before and thought I was just being memed.
Is there anything you would suggest, even instead of Windows, assuming it isn't ridiculously hard to setup and constantly update or whatever?

>>62434150
I'm may be retarded here. but woulden't the bottum fans be better as intakes? isn't the hot air just going to pool up at the bottom or "bounce" back into the case? wheres you can easly pull cool air from the bottum. but i guess then you are blowing more hot air further into the case? fucking thermodynamics and air I cannot into this shit.

Why is there no mouse with 10k+ DPI without the stupid RGB shit?

Do I have to look like a faggot to get high DPI?

>>62434274
Not him but I'd assume if the pressure was in the right range it would just flow down and then out instead of back in.

>>62434274

desu I was thinking the same thing, but like I said lots of other itx enthusiast have tested this setup and claim this is best airflow direction after testing. I actually have raised feet on order to have feet height go from 9mm to 16mm because I was worried about that issue.

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>>62424448
>>62425753
>>62425796

>>62434295
Why do you want high DPI when you're going to be playing with sub 1k

>>62434335
OSU

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>>62434331
>scrolling through 250 posts to find all of three anime images and getting butthurt enough to post about it
Respond to this too, fag

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Would it be possible to convert a laptop into a desktop relatively easily?

I spilled beer on my laptop and fucked the keyboard, a replacement costs like £50 and has to be shipped from China.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laptop-Keyboard-MP-12A36GB-4301W-Kingdom-Without/dp/B0727XWP1S

Might as well spend more so I can post pics in /mkg/

I bought the laptop in 2013, i7, 8gb ram, gtx765m graphics card, I recently quit gaming and formatted it to install Linux for web development... so I see no reason to upgrade or buy a new machine.

I'm just wondering if there is a way to re-use the guts of it in what is effectively a new machine that looks better than pic related.

>>62434331
anime website

:^)

8 threads
16gb ram
freesync ips
~$500
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6FhwWX

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>>62434695
1. Put the keyboard back on so the laptop doesn't look weird
2. Get and use a laptop stand like pic related

>>62434695
pretty difficult afaik
laptop parts are sometimes soldered into the chassis. CPU is probably salvagable though

Is a evga 500w 80 plus enough for a ryzen 7 1700+1080ti (planning to buy when the prices drop, will keep my r9 380)

Should I pick a x370 or a b350 mobo? I will overclock it on the wraith spire cooler

I have a nzxt h440 case, will I need any extra cables or something like that to build it?

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>>62431689
>1060 3gb
>3gb
J U S T
U
S
T

>>62433337
you're gonna love it. with fans locked at 50% my 1080 TI never goes past 65ish c at +120% power and +150/+400 on the clocks, its a beast my man
>>62433451
jealous

>>62434200
gammaxx 200t
can confirm as I am running an 8120 at 4.0 on it no problems. it's like 15-18 bucks on amazon, if you can though upgrade to the 400, its on par/ slightly ahead of the hyper 212 and still only like 20-25 bucks

How much can ReadyBoost actually improve performance?

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I really want the X62 but I'm afraid it will block my 4 rams. Anyone have one?

>>62434802
>100 bucks cheaper than 6gb
It's fine for poorfags I guess

>>62434882
the 1060 6gb can't properly use 6 gigabytes worth of textures, generally its a waste of cash

>>62434881
this nigger right here gotta be one of the prettiest AIOs out there
Putting a few extra bucks to get one even though a cheaper/smaller Corsair hydro is more efficient at cooling. But this is too pretty

>>62434881
I want it so badly, so pretty. But I am scared of having water near my components and exploding

>>62434949
style comes with risks, anon
cool guys don't wear helmets on motorcycles. but they also have a higher risk of eating shit

Is a CPU cooler necessary?

>>62434862
Thanks

>>62434971
yes

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>>62434775

>>62434933
I'm ready to pull the trigger as it's in my cart but I'm not sure about the RAM clearance. It looks like it may block the first slot.

And I'm on top of that I have the Evolv TG and I don't think you can mount it on the top. I see all them mounted as intake but that would mean I need to removed hardrive cage. Which then means I need to get rid of my HDD and spend more on SDD....

>>62434969
aggh. I guess I will settle with this RGB air cooler

>>62434893
Are you makeing up bull shit Anon. i dunno why it woulden't be able to.

>>62434999

I used to have the Evolv, should be able to mount on top as it takes both 120/140 fans. Can't say anything about ram clearance of your board but with my X52 I have no issues on the Asus Z97-Pro

>>62435039
If I mount on top it's really gonna cut off the top of the board for access.

I have the ASUS VIII formula.

Guys I'm really scared. I'm about to pull trigger or SHOULD I WAIT FOR 8700K

someone hold me

>>62434971
>Is a CPU cooler necessary?

Strictly speaking no.

It will run safely without any cooler.
But it will throttle and be as slow as a Macbook.

>>62435093

Just wait nigger

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>>62435012
in scenarios where you'll need more than 3 to 4 gigabytes of RAM (1440p and up) the 1060 will be bottlenecking before the added benefits of the ram will really help out. Some games will greedily use all the RAM they can but most will be happy with 3gb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyb83sD-hQU
The real difference is that the 6gb has a couple more shaders. The VRAM has no real effect and a difference of about 7 frames does little to justify upwards of 100 dollars in price.
>>62435011
wat cooler you gettin anon

>>62435112
The thing is... my return period. It's about to end for my ram and my current PC only supports DDR3.

Do you think a retailer would accept an already used stock cooler? this is my first build

>>62435138
the included cooler with the ryzen 1700. I would have loved the NZXT though for maximum overclocks and RGB aesthetics.

Why has no one made a dedicated crypto mining PCI card? like do you need -all- the fetures of modern graphics cards to mine meme-coins? coulden't someone strip some of the shit that's important to gaming and decress the cost/incress performance somehow?
Like i know the mining method depends on coin type. like bitcoin is mineabale with these odd little machines built just for mining
I'm retarded with this shit but I am curious.

>>62435172
included cooler will get you to 3.7 ghz easily on all cores. the NH U14 would probably get you to 4 easily as well. Overclocking ryzen is really up to your binning, if you can get past 3.9 without max voltage you have a golden chip.

1.4 should be max for daily usage but really you shouldn't push past 1.38v. The chips aren't thermally bound they're voltage bound.

>>62435138
This is intresting info, thanks Anon. so buying the RX580 4GB would be fine instead of trying to hunt down a 8GB that's not a few thousand dollars.

When is Coffee out?

>>62435247
Coffee in October

When is 1070ti out?
Will it bring down prices on any of nvidia's current cards?

>>62435207
Hmm interesting. I felt like I was pushing the limit at 3.7 GHz.

I would have picked a noctua cooler but it feels like it would ruin the whole vibe of what I am trying to go for

>>62435226
your luck is going to be absolutely shite considering that miners are still buying the 4gb versions. The only real card that can do modern titles reasonably well at around its msrp is the 1050 ti, OR the gtx 1080/1080 ti since these are out of the VRAM/price range of miners who are buying up all the cards. At some point Vega 11 will be rolled out (hopefully soon) and you might be able to snag a card at msrp. Rumors of the 1070 ti are also around but that sounds like horseshit to me.
What are you upgrading from and what's the resolution you plan on using?

>>62424448
Assuming infinite money, what's wrong with an i7?

what kind of drivers do I need to make sure I update after building a pc? also should I update the BIOS before installing Windows?

Will coffee be the same price as current kabby?

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Not Necesarily building a Pc but i need help.

I have about a $1000 bucks to spend id prefer not to spend it all but whatever, over the summer i became a poorfag and ended up selling my 1070 GPU for absurdly cheap which im still kicking myself in the dick over.

I also need a laptop for school and with my current schedule i have huge 4-5 hour breaks inbetween classes but im just kicking it in the library. I want a Laptop where i can do some light gaming ( mainly Overwatch) during my breaks but still have enough money for a decent GPU so when i get home i wont have shit graphics. As it stands ive been running OW on just my i7700k.

Help me out /g/

>>62435289
there are noctua equivalents at similar price points or cheaper with rgb aesthetics. Or alternatively dark ones. Go to logical increments and look in the cooling tiers.

>>62435297
R9 280X I'll be staying at 1080p for a while yet.

I'm mainly upgrading my PC because I'm sick of my CPU (FX-6300) and I need my current GPU for another build i'm doing for my SO's mother.

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>>62435299

For gaming? Can't stream/play games at same time without significant performance loss due to being limited to 8 threads. Other than that it's just bad value.

Pic related is R7 1700, but R5 1600 has same performance with less threads.

If R5 1600 is ~$200 and 7700k is ~$300, and I told you you had to pay ~$100 extra for ~10fps would you do it? Obviously the performance will vary depending on title though.

Where can I sell a mobile, CPU and case I've never used before?

The CPU is in the mobo but I never built it. And with Coffee here I should just grab coffee. It's gonna kill this 6700K

>>62435397
MOBO not mobile.

>>62435366
>SO
this isn't reddit, but couldn't their mother just use the igpu or does she play more than facebook games?
Also 280x is still pretty serviceable for 1080p but if you find a 980 or even a 970 second hand that would be a pretty decent upgrade. Good luck finding ANY AMD cards second hand right for a good price now though.

>>62435330
It seems like I might have some options. But that RGB AIO sleek cooler would be nice now.

Would you like something in return for helping me?

>>62435436
nah I'm just bored and tired of studying for the LSAT
Pain in 2 days. So much pain. I just built an 1800x system in march and I haven't been able to use it for the last 2 months because of this test.

>>62435396
there's also the fact that you can buy a 6700k for nearly identical performance to the 7700k, assuming that you overclock both.

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>>62424725
About to buy g4600 is there a thing such as a am4 apu?

>>62435482
>law school
>LSAT
that sucks anon. If I was your gf I'd give you lots of love to make you feel better.

>>62435530
literally just came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyw7coOhN78
don't know much about it, watch for yourself

>>62435418
>SO
If i used to proper term i'd be shit on even harder.

She plays more then just facebook games. (its part of why i'm bulding it for her)

I can get a 980ti for £330 or a 1070 for £385. That's £100 more then I wanted to spend I kind of want in on freesync so i'm not huge on those cards but may get the 980ti in the end I dunno. fucking cryptofaggots

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>>62435590
>thinking /g/ cares if you like benis or have a gf
>>62435550
there's a 99.9999% chance this is a trap and will probably post socks in some thread on /v/ or /b/ in the next 4 hours

also keep in mind that if were ok with buying a 580 4gb it should be around the performance range of a regular 980. don't know if that's available around near you but I'd probably buy one of those if it's much cheaper than the 980 ti. And yes, we all hate the crypto mining shitters. I just want the eth bubble to burst overnight and shit all over these people

I've been using Ryzen Master for the last few days to monitor the temps of my 1600 and I've noticed my CPU voltage jumps around all over the place from 0.97v to 1.2v all the way to around 1.36v and sometimes more.
Now, isn't stock voltage 1.2v? Why is it jumping all the way to past 1.3v? Something about XFR? Could this be causing my higher temps and if so how do I set it to stay at 1.2v?

I'm using stock cooler and I don't want to overclock. I don't want over 1.3v. I honestly have no idea how to just set it to 1.2v. I imagine there's more you have to do in bios then just set the voltage to 1.2.

>>62435669
what motherboard do you have? XFR will boost your voltage dynamically for very short periods but there were a couple bioses from gigabyte which were jumping voltage WAY too high.
If you manually set the voltage and clocks it shouldn't be varying much, but using automatic voltage will allow it to fluctuate quite a bit.

I'd just set it to 1.3 or 1.25v and the highest stable ghz you can get it to. Keep in mind that some boards support "p-state overclocking". I didn't bother because the power savings were minimal but if done correctly it allows for XFR to still work (manual CPU clock settings prevent XFR from enabling)

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>>62435588
>excavator cores
guess I'll wait another year...

>>62435787
>guess I'll wait another year...
geekbench results for the ryzen 2500U (yes, just like the legendary sandy bridge) are out and this is SUPPOSED to be the raven ridge APU everyone has been waiting for.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/geekbench-results-for-raven-ridge-2500u.html

>>62435746
I have a MSI B350 Tomahawk

Are the kraken X62 radiator fans modelled for it, or can I replace them with generic NZXT 240mm RBG led fans?

>>62435654
>thinking /g/ cares if you like benis or have a gf
Husband

Also thanks for all the info and insight my dude.

>>62435313
More expensive and not much of an IPC gain

>>62435918
I wouldn't worry too much. Voltage will fluctuate from idle and full load. XFR will probably briefly extend this beyond stock voltage. As long as its not sitting at 1.5 for hours at a time you'll be ok. If you're super paranoid just set it and you'll also probably be fine. If you start getting crashes increase the voltage.

>>62435955
you're welcome, anon
we'll all get through this mining bubble eventually.
Also bump limit, new OP when

>>62435955
>being worried about people knowing you're a girl on /g/

>>62435397
ebay

So, my cousing is moving to another country and left his PC to me. Specs are

>i7 4790k
>16 gb ram
>two r9 290x
>M2 256 gb ssd
>2 tb hd
>I don't know what mobo he used

Is this build still legit and I'll only be getting the case so need to use my old VGA LCD monitor but it seems r9 290x only has display port, hdmi and DVI-D ports. Can I just use passive HDMI-VGA adapters or do I need to cough up the dough for the active adapters?

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anyone have any experience with g.skill trident z RGB ddr4 3200 RAM and asrock x370 taichi mobo?
ram model number is: F4-3200C16D-16GTZR
its not on the QVL for the taichi, but i got the ram from a friend for nearly free and i already have the motherboard.
ive seen several builds with both of these parts working, but ive also heard horror stories of the software used to control the ram lighting bricking the ram. anyone have any info about this?

rest of the parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LGTCTH

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>>62436021
inb4 tits or gtfo
also
>having a husband precluding being a man
>2017
You just can't know anymore. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
Or gay

>>62436086
Nigger get a new monitor and upgrade the GPU, possibly.

Run speccy to find out the mobo

>>62436094
it doesnt actually brick the ram, it just corrupts the spd file which is fixable. also, in theory it does this when there is more than one thing that is accessing the file for the rgb shit ie asus aura and the g.skill program

>>62436135

I don't have the money to replace anything for now unfortunately, I just play WoW, OW and some other light games mostly. Isn't crossfired r9's enough for them?

>>62436086
First, check the sale prices of those 290x's. They're favorites of miners and generally sell at a decent price.
consider selling them both and buying vega or a 1080. Try to sell them somewhere that's less buyer friendly so they can't shaft you if the market collapses within the return window.

Also this build is still great. If you can find an old 1080p tv just use that for now. They're cheap as shit and you might as well get one instead of buying an adapter.
But if you need a vga adapter google what ones work with 290x hdmi.

>>62436143
>>62436157
If I had known that you only play wow OW and other light titles, shit you can use one 290x for that. Just sell one and buy a monitor. You DO NOT need CF to run those. 290x is around a 970 in performance.

>>62436140
i see. is there any firmware or some shit that comes built in with the ram to light it up without any software? i really dont give a shit about the lights; can i essentially keep them off without installing any of that software?
id really like to avoid problems with this build, i cant afford to have to spend days fixing broken things on it.

>>62436143
If you play those shit games then ONE 290X can max the settings out.

Alternatively, sell them now to miners for $$$ and buy a 1080 or 1080ti and good monitor or whatever

>>62436157

I thought of that but no one in my country mines crypto so don't think there is a market for that here.

>>62436180

If only one does the job maybe I'll do that, thanks mate.

>>62436198
what country are you in? Even if there isn't a crypto market you'd be surprised at what a used GPU can sell for.

Is it worth to pay premium for Hitachi Ultrastar or should I just buy cheap Seagate?

>>62434216
if youre not going to use windows because of the newer cpus not supporting 7, then id go with ubuntu or one of its other flavors. xubuntu is what i use along with 7(until i finish my ryzen build, then gonna have to use 10 and xubuntu.). ubuntu and all of its other flavors are pretty simple, as user friendly as windows is.
if you wanna dual boot them, make sure you disable fastboot or whatever its called if you have uefi bios, and install windows first.

>>62436216

Turkey, I checked the 2nd hand prices just now and they go down to 240$ at lowest. I'll check out if there is a miner forum or something but if I have to do I still need to use an active adapter?

My new Korean monitor just arrived. It advertises 144hz @1080p. But when I use AMD's legacy catalyst control panel to adjust the refresh rate it won't allow me to choose 1080p. (old gpu broke currently using a 5770 when waiting for new one to ship)

Is it limited by software or do I have to do it with a newer gpu?

>>62434216
>>62436240
I run ryzen on w7 with that github patch.
It's open sores so hopefully it's not botnet.

>>62436250
do you mean that monitors come down to 240 at lowest or 290x's are selling for 240 minimum? Because 240 dollars SHOULD be plenty for a 1080p monitor.
As for active adapters, yes you'll need one.

>>62436194
if you dont use the software i believe they just stay a solid color that you cant change

my cpu is at 53c while idle and the rest of my system is at 40c. Is my cooler not working as it should? using the 120mm am4 noctua