>tfw Windows 10 uses less ram than fucking GNOME

windows 10 is unliked here because its what normal people use

>>62395214
Yeah, after you disable all the botnet "features"

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Windows and Linux report and use RAM differently

This will still get 200 replies

>>62395214
>decimal dots and decimal commas are present in one window

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>>62395214
No

>>62395290
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>>62395250
adding onto this, arch with a minimalistic wm like i3 would be using ~130 MB of ram

>>62395214
>1.3GB
So they use the same amount of RAM?

It is funny then, that my desktop running KDE with 4 desktops & 3 activities, and also running an Ubuntu Budgie VM, uses less RAM than windows 10 did idle.

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[budgie]

>>62395279
kek

>>62395456
ramlet

>>62395214
It says its only using 1.3gigs of RAM but theres also like 3gigs of cached RAM that for some stupid reason windows doesnt want to free when its running low on RAM and my fucking computer is slowing down as fuck before this shitty OS finaly realizes, oh wait maybe I should free a meg/sec of that cache memory now.
FUCK THIS SHITTY UNOPTIMIZED OS

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budgie with firefox and irc

>>62395279
All numbers are formatted with a comma. The dot is only in a string of CPU info coded into the driver or somewhere. No OS can do anything about it.

>>62395456
>>62395513
>using swap
Enjoy inferior performance.

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Should have installed Gentoo with KDE Plasma

>>62395473
>ramlet

It's honestly hard for me to justify buying more ram. Maybe if there was some extremely obvious side effect, like how a smartphone browser will refresh a tab when you go back to it after a while because of ram issues, then I'd switch.

>>62395321
You are doing the same

>>62395214
You fucking idiots.
Every time the same bullshit. Windows that much ram, loonix that much ram, solaris that much ram.
Every fucking kernel, manages the system's ram differently.
My eeepc has 512 MB ram, and it can run a DE like cinnamon and a few tabs on ff without the need to swap.
If linux has 8GB available, it will prefetch more data on the ram.
Winblows is stoopid and since it doesn't know much about shared libraries, since everyprogram hogs ia local version when installed, it ends up using more ram.
Windows memory management is crap. Linux's is a bit better, although linux suffers from wastefull allocations when using huge amounts of ram.
The smallest footprint and the best mem management on low and high capacities belongs to solaris and the ibm oses, which target only servers/super computers.
Stop comparing oranges to apples.

>>62395214
>GNOME
What did you expect?

>platform wars on /g/
amazing

>>62395796
>fall for Linux meme
>install Fedora on VMware for testing
>looks fun
>try to install on bare metal
>runs worse than in virtual machine
Is this the power of Linux?

>>62395873
Incoherent cobbled together mess? Yes.
Linux done the right way is macOS.

>>62395894
>Linux done the right way is macOS.
Maximum Overbait

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So I see you're running Gnome... You know, I'm actually on KDE myself.

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>>62395214
This is how it goes for me now, I should definitely restart - I've installed a lot of bloating shit... recently.

>>62395873
Intel integrated stuff has a horrible tendency to suck in weird ways.
>chrome runs better if I run it under xpra and connect locally than simply running it through X because of hardware acceleration

>>62395250
Windows 10 uses less than 500MiB of memory if you tweak it, ~1GiB is standard

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>>62395214
>Unused RAM = wasted RAM
tfw windows 10 is wasting your RAM

>>62395540
>not using swap
Enjoy not hibernating.

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What now, ass holes?

>>62396060
>tweaking windows 10
>until all settings revert themselves

>>62396060
>if you tweak it
Until the next update re-enables everything you "tweaked".

>>62395214
So I guess this is supposed to be a minimal load screenshot... Then why is there so much CPU, Filesystem and Network load? Really makes you think...

>>62396067
>hibernating is better than suspending
Enjoy a useless feature.

>>62396202
Hibernating can be used in lieu of ever shutting your machine down. Suspending cannot do the same thing under all conditions, for example if you're travelling with a laptop.

>>62396202
>>62395540
Also, you can resolve any performance issues related to swap (I am not convinced that there are any) by changing the swappiness setting. Set it to 0 and the swap space won't get used, except when hibernating.

>>62395214
>shill shilling ram utilization
>it's above 1GB for doing jack shit
>anons don't discuss the zero day that was patched a few hours ago

who could be behind this thread?

>>62395214
that's what microsoft want's to make you think you have literally NO proof that the taskmanager is 100% accurate
also GNOME users don't give a fuck about recourses otherwise they wouldn't use GNOME in first place

>>62396351
Paranoia is overwhelming. Why the fuck would MS lie about task manager? In fact, all MS do is collect data data about crashes and usage statistics so they can improve the stability in the future. Nothing more.

>>62396393
>Why the fuck would MS lie about task manager?
lol

>>62396393
>all MS do is collect data data about crashes and usage statistics so they can improve the stability in the future. Nothing more.
proof it, oh yeah, right you can't exept you have the source code of the Taskmanager

>>62396629
Even if you had the source code of anything you still can't trust it especially because in an overwhelming amount of cases you're not going to fully inspect and go through it before using it.
That's just the reality, you either get convenience or security. Pick one.

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>>62395290

>>62396659
With closed source software the minimum conspiracy required to insert malicious code involves one corporate administrator. With open source software the minimum conspiracy required involves all of the developers and everyone in the world who has sufficient interest in the security of a piece of code to look at it. One is possible, the other is not, if the code in question is widely distributed and important to security.

but i have 16 gigaboots

>>62395332
adding on to this, debian from the terminal will be using like 20MB of ram

retard

>>62395250
No, because those can't be disabled. Check mate freetard

>>62395354
Except KDE is not searching the disk or collecting and sending telemetry. Windows does more with those 1.3GB

>>62396725
Not at all, especially due to the barrier of entry within the open source community and individually with each product, it's not like you can waltz into a project and go "look this is spyware" and have them immediately fix things.
If it's an exceptionally popular and important small piece of the puzzle, then yes what you're saying is true but that's just not the reality for an overwhelming majority of projects.

>>62396903
>it's not like you can waltz into a project and go "look this is spyware" and have them immediately fix things.
With open source, you don't have to convince evil developers to change their ways, you just have to convince the users that their code is evil. You fork their code, remove the malicious features, and show people the differences, and they will use yours instead. That rarely happens because it's extremely rare for malicious features to make their way into open source code in the first place.

>arch idling at 300mb
>open firefox and it shoots up to 3 gigs
JUST

>>62396965
>You fork their code, remove the malicious features, and show people the differences, and they will use yours instead.
How is that going for React alternatives? Chromium forks?
These "evil corporations" have their hands all over OS and there's absolutely no way you're going to win over users just by claiming you removed malicious features. That just isn't how the world works.
Look, I know you want to believe that there is justice in the world and everything right is right, but that isn't reality whatsoever. There aren't watchdogs for every OS project ensuring users don't get fucked. Corporations have shoved their arms so far up the OS community that they advocate in favor of more corporate control.
Just the way things are pham.

>>62397025
Chromium is definitely an exception to the "no malicious code in open source software" rule. I won't argue with that, and I use Chromium. I'm fully aware that most open source development is either done by or funded by large corporations, but most projects are not developed exclusively by a single large corporation (Chromium, being primarily a Google project, is an exception, and hence its exception to the malicious code rule). The fact that most open source developers are paid by corporations doesn't negate the fact that the level of conspiracy required to sneak malicious code in is monumental and unrealistic. Pretending that every single user needs to audit all of the code they run in order to reap the advantages of open source software licenses is completely silly, as is acting like nobody pays attention when people find security vulnerabilities and raise red flags.

>>62395214
stock gnorme uses less than half of that ram you shitty little pajeet.

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this is nice

>>62395522
>you can't manipulate a string after getting it from the bios
Kill yourself brainlet.

>>62396072
this is GNOME?